<- #1 or #2 on Dmg Meters. Warriors come in 5-10th. Recklessness ftl.
Coz ur warriors have suck as PVE gear, or they just plain suck.
tier5 > arena season 2 all the way for pve warriors right? arena has less str, less crit and no useful pve set bonuses... so how is that pvp warrior set better?
**edit** havent played WoW for a couple of weeks now... but I doubt warriors are #1 raiddmg haha
I didnt say anythign was better, im giving a compariosn, saying that season 1 gladiatoer set is MORE than good enough for kara, gruul Mag, season 2 good enough for SSC and TK and beyond. PVP is in no way as weak as it was PRE TBC for raids, well from my experience as a warrior. Like i said i out DPS everyone in full merc gear with merc 1h weapons and heroic trinkets, along with dps abacus. nobody out critting or Dpsing me with over 40% crit chance buffed, and over 2500 AP Buffed.
I didnt say tier 5 or whatever is crapper or better, im just saying froma warrior view PVp can stand upto alot of things from raids at present.
maybe u still play with MS warriors in ur raid. Ms is quite good for 10 man instance like Kara, and u can do quitereasonable dmg, but 25 man fury warriors especially with my setup there is no one higher on dps meter than me. 12k slam on curator in pure pwnage.
that's not what you said. You started out saying that pvp gear now is viable compared to pre-TBC, and you're right. Then you go on about "he must be wearing crappy pve gear" and "your warriors suck" and "nobody can beat me while I'm in my pvp gear" which is just not true and you know it
if YOU top dmgmeters in your guild, theres alot of reasons for it. You being in pvp gear is not the primary reason for sure. And if you're such a good warrior like you say, then you and me both know you'd be doing _even better_ in pve gear
Because 75% of their player base hated the raid model of those dungeons. Blizzard decided to change to a 25 man paradigm instead.
The idiocy is that they knew this as they were making the expansion, and at the same time continued to waste time on content following the original model. I feel bad for the developer who wasted countless hours making the content that everyone knew would never be played again.
I personally think the Expansion develop was radically changed mid-way. The 25-man BC dungeons were probably meant to be 40-mans with Kaplan and Chilton still being blind enough to think people would eventually choke down their EQ playstyle.
Then Vivendi probaby looked at the actual numbers and demanded to know why they were making content for 10-15% of their players base and the development of the Expansion switched. They threw Kaplan and Chilton into a closest and re-formulated the 25man dungeons while they rushed to produce more small dungeons as well.
There's a reason why Blizzard always keeps quiet about stuff they're developing lol
Or maybe you're right and the poor sot working on Naxx knew no one would ever play it after the release. You could say the same thing about the new captial cities of the Blood Elves and Draenai. Those cities are absolutely beautiful, but who ever goes into them nowadays?
'Disposable content' could very well be Blizzard's business model. Seems to be working for them. Which means that the current dungeons are going to be rendered pointless as well, though they took steps against that with the Heroic mode.
<- #1 or #2 on Dmg Meters. Warriors come in 5-10th. Recklessness ftl.
Coz ur warriors have suck as PVE gear, or they just plain suck.
tier5 > arena season 2 all the way for pve warriors right? arena has less str, less crit and no useful pve set bonuses... so how is that pvp warrior set better?
**edit** havent played WoW for a couple of weeks now... but I doubt warriors are #1 raiddmg haha
I didnt say anythign was better, im giving a compariosn, saying that season 1 gladiatoer set is MORE than good enough for kara, gruul Mag, season 2 good enough for SSC and TK and beyond. PVP is in no way as weak as it was PRE TBC for raids, well from my experience as a warrior. Like i said i out DPS everyone in full merc gear with merc 1h weapons and heroic trinkets, along with dps abacus. nobody out critting or Dpsing me with over 40% crit chance buffed, and over 2500 AP Buffed.
I didnt say tier 5 or whatever is crapper or better, im just saying froma warrior view PVp can stand upto alot of things from raids at present.
maybe u still play with MS warriors in ur raid. Ms is quite good for 10 man instance like Kara, and u can do quitereasonable dmg, but 25 man fury warriors especially with my setup there is no one higher on dps meter than me. 12k slam on curator in pure pwnage.
that's not what you said. You started out saying that pvp gear now is viable compared to pre-TBC, and you're right. Then you go on about "he must be wearing crappy pve gear" and "your warriors suck" and "nobody can beat me while I'm in my pvp gear" which is just not true and you know it
if YOU top dmgmeters in your guild, theres alot of reasons for it. You being in pvp gear is not the primary reason for sure. And if you're such a good warrior like you say, then you and me both know you'd be doing _even better_ in pve gear
Didnt say warriors ar number 1 dmg, but i sure am, or that PVP is better than PVE gear, all im stating from myself as a warrior that items from PVP matched with PVE trinkets, cloaks belt etc are more vibale now In TBC for raids then they were pre TBC for raids.
Yes true maybe if i had full dps PVE gear from BT that i would be doign eevn more dmg, but at present cant complain, mixture of PVP and PVE is very very good imo and more than viable upto TK. Just saying PVP gear more viable now the pre TBC
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Coz ur warriors have suck as PVE gear, or they just plain suck.
tier5 > arena season 2 all the way for pve warriors right? arena has less str, less crit and no useful pve set bonuses... so how is that pvp warrior set better?
**edit** havent played WoW for a couple of weeks now... but I doubt warriors are #1 raiddmg haha
I didnt say anythign was better, im giving a compariosn, saying that season 1 gladiatoer set is MORE than good enough for kara, gruul Mag, season 2 good enough for SSC and TK and beyond. PVP is in no way as weak as it was PRE TBC for raids, well from my experience as a warrior. Like i said i out DPS everyone in full merc gear with merc 1h weapons and heroic trinkets, along with dps abacus. nobody out critting or Dpsing me with over 40% crit chance buffed, and over 2500 AP Buffed.
I didnt say tier 5 or whatever is crapper or better, im just saying froma warrior view PVp can stand upto alot of things from raids at present.
maybe u still play with MS warriors in ur raid. Ms is quite good for 10 man instance like Kara, and u can do quitereasonable dmg, but 25 man fury warriors especially with my setup there is no one higher on dps meter than me. 12k slam on curator in pure pwnage.
that's not what you said. You started out saying that pvp gear now is viable compared to pre-TBC, and you're right. Then you go on about "he must be wearing crappy pve gear" and "your warriors suck" and "nobody can beat me while I'm in my pvp gear" which is just not true and you know it
if YOU top dmgmeters in your guild, theres alot of reasons for it. You being in pvp gear is not the primary reason for sure. And if you're such a good warrior like you say, then you and me both know you'd be doing _even better_ in pve gear
*** warriors are not #1 dmg ***
The idiocy is that they knew this as they were making the expansion, and at the same time continued to waste time on content following the original model. I feel bad for the developer who wasted countless hours making the content that everyone knew would never be played again.
I personally think the Expansion develop was radically changed mid-way. The 25-man BC dungeons were probably meant to be 40-mans with Kaplan and Chilton still being blind enough to think people would eventually choke down their EQ playstyle.
Then Vivendi probaby looked at the actual numbers and demanded to know why they were making content for 10-15% of their players base and the development of the Expansion switched. They threw Kaplan and Chilton into a closest and re-formulated the 25man dungeons while they rushed to produce more small dungeons as well.
There's a reason why Blizzard always keeps quiet about stuff they're developing lol
Or maybe you're right and the poor sot working on Naxx knew no one would ever play it after the release. You could say the same thing about the new captial cities of the Blood Elves and Draenai. Those cities are absolutely beautiful, but who ever goes into them nowadays?
'Disposable content' could very well be Blizzard's business model. Seems to be working for them. Which means that the current dungeons are going to be rendered pointless as well, though they took steps against that with the Heroic mode.
Coz ur warriors have suck as PVE gear, or they just plain suck.
tier5 > arena season 2 all the way for pve warriors right? arena has less str, less crit and no useful pve set bonuses... so how is that pvp warrior set better?
**edit** havent played WoW for a couple of weeks now... but I doubt warriors are #1 raiddmg haha
I didnt say anythign was better, im giving a compariosn, saying that season 1 gladiatoer set is MORE than good enough for kara, gruul Mag, season 2 good enough for SSC and TK and beyond. PVP is in no way as weak as it was PRE TBC for raids, well from my experience as a warrior. Like i said i out DPS everyone in full merc gear with merc 1h weapons and heroic trinkets, along with dps abacus. nobody out critting or Dpsing me with over 40% crit chance buffed, and over 2500 AP Buffed.
I didnt say tier 5 or whatever is crapper or better, im just saying froma warrior view PVp can stand upto alot of things from raids at present.
maybe u still play with MS warriors in ur raid. Ms is quite good for 10 man instance like Kara, and u can do quitereasonable dmg, but 25 man fury warriors especially with my setup there is no one higher on dps meter than me. 12k slam on curator in pure pwnage.
that's not what you said. You started out saying that pvp gear now is viable compared to pre-TBC, and you're right. Then you go on about "he must be wearing crappy pve gear" and "your warriors suck" and "nobody can beat me while I'm in my pvp gear" which is just not true and you know it
if YOU top dmgmeters in your guild, theres alot of reasons for it. You being in pvp gear is not the primary reason for sure. And if you're such a good warrior like you say, then you and me both know you'd be doing _even better_ in pve gear
*** warriors are not #1 dmg ***
Didnt say warriors ar number 1 dmg, but i sure am
, or that PVP is better than PVE gear, all im stating from myself as a warrior that items from PVP matched with PVE trinkets, cloaks belt etc are more vibale now In TBC for raids then they were pre TBC for raids.
Yes true maybe if i had full dps PVE gear from BT that i would be doign eevn more dmg, but at present cant complain, mixture of PVP and PVE is very very good imo and more than viable upto TK. Just saying PVP gear more viable now the pre TBC