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Why does this game have so much hype?

Why does this game have so much hype. i meen what is so new and revolutionary about it? im not hating it or anything. i just dont understand the hype. please elaborate. i cant see why a game like darkfall isnt on the hype list.

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  • lordsn0wlordsn0w Member Posts: 99

    For me it's because:

    It's based around RvR and made by Mythic whom coined the term aswell produced  in my opinion the best PvP fun yet in an MMO, as well an all around great game (DAoC)

     

  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    Well i will ellaborate for you.

    Just like WoW was, WAR is based on a very famous IP. Warcraft had been around for a long time in its previous RTS franchise, as well as blizzard being involved in other famous games releases. So when they released a MMO of course people hyped it. Now iwth wAR, there are ALOT of people who know and follow the Warhammer, so the release of a MMO based on the WArhammer IP is of course going to recieve hype too, as there is already alot of people interested in playing. WoW was hyped but offered nothing new at all, WAR at least is bringing in a crazy questing system. And for those of you who think WAR is copying WoW just remember WAR has been around nearly DECADES longer, as well as its art style.

  • icezizimicezizim Member Posts: 36

    im not talking about the franchise, i meen what do they promise in terms of gameplay.

  • lordsn0wlordsn0w Member Posts: 99
    Originally posted by icezizim


    im not talking about the franchise, i meen what do they promise in terms of gameplay.

    Are you asking what they are promising or about what they have promised?

  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094

    Originally posted by icezizim


    im not talking about the franchise, i meen what do they promise in terms of gameplay.

    They promise a solid PvP centric MMO and nothing more.

    1 and only features they hold up as innovative is:

    Public quests - not so innovative, as its just a faction grind that you solo until you trigger some scripted event, you can then go to some NPC and buy items with points your earned during the grind..it then resets and you start all over again.

    But that aside Its the PvP that will make this game stand out..... PvE wise it offers nothing new.

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  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    For a game (or anything else for that matter) to have hype it doesnt have to offer anything new at all. Doesnt have to be innovatie thats the thing....follow hype at your own discretion :p People hyped the spice girls i mean....jeez...

  • MidnitteMidnitte Member Posts: 510

    I believe they have something like if you kill 12 bears, then get a quest to kill 20, you only need to kill 8 more bears.

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    The license.

     

    Mythic unability to promote fully the gameplays which appeal to the license fans will have some consequences in the long run.  PvP, RvR, these are natural in a setting such as Warhammer...however, it doesn't justify the lack of a proper PvE; which is appealing to a vast amount of the fans who are used either to PvE (the minority who CRPG), or to GBT (the overwhelming majority)...to throw them into a PvP setting in real time...this is much...There should have been some thoughs to put GBT PvP...but since there wasn't any desire to fullfill that, maybe they should have at least considered alternative paths to please this huge GBT fanbase; should they dislike the RvR...they have nothing else to focus on.

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  • lordsn0wlordsn0w Member Posts: 99

    Twice tonight I have disagreed with you cupertino, I find you are jumping the gun on info. As of yet Mythic has given us info on how a public quest will work and at no point did they say anything about rep grind or soloing till a trigger and then trading in some rep points at the end. All they have done is ran through the idea of one such public quest and only how the scenario might go, no other specifics other then the more you participate the better the reward is. Oh and for another Inovation is campaign RvR with the end goal be the siege and sacking of a capital city not inovative?

  • ArchinArchin Member Posts: 103

     

    Originally posted by icezizim


    Why does this game have so much hype. i meen what is so new and revolutionary about it? im not hating it or anything. i just dont understand the hype. please elaborate. i cant see why a game like darkfall isnt on the hype list.

     

    Why? Because of RvR, because of the Warhammer IP, because you couldn't ask for anyone better to create this masterpiece than EA-Mythic!  Some of the concept art looks out of this world and the transformation from Art > ingame textures / models looks spot on.. Mythic are putting there hearts and souls into this game and thats whats important.

    "The main ingredient for a successful game is the game idea. Regardless how cool your graphics are, how good the music is, if the idea is lame no one is going to play the game"

    WAR is anything but lame, thats why people like it.

  • ZalKinZalKin Member Posts: 31

    The thing i love most about warhammer is mythic, and the way they give us information about warhammer. I've hyped games before but those games never really showed or talked much about the new stuff they brings to the game, and when i started playing they were a dissapointment. Warhammer on the other hand showes us nearly everything, they have 5 min videos about the new stuff about the game and pauls video blog. They show us this becaus they know it's good and new. You just get the feeling they're not bullshiting you, and the feeling that they're trying hard not to be crap!

  • lordsn0wlordsn0w Member Posts: 99
    Originally posted by icezizim


    yeah, see nothing really that iv heard about this game (IMO) deserves number one on most antcipated. Darkfall looks the best. :

    Hasnt Darfall been in dev for  something like 6 years now? With very little Info even available after all this time

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Originally posted by icezizim


    yeah, see nothing really that iv heard about this game (IMO) deserves number one on most antcipated. Darkfall looks the best. :
    Darfall license = start from 0

    Darkfall staff = who are they?

     

    Warhammer license = VAST amount of GBT players

    Mythic staff = they did DAoC

     

    I still think that the RvR-centric approach won't catch these GBT fans as well as Mythic seems to think.  They will try it but...We are talking of putting real-time PvP on fans who are used to play units in GBT.  That is quite a leap.  And I don't see any alternative focus the fans could set on should they dislike the RvR for any reason, be it the PvE or whatever else, to please GBT warfans.  RvR all you want, you still control only 1 character and it is in real time...quite a leap from GBT units warfaring.

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  • ormstungaormstunga Member Posts: 736

    Originally posted by Midnitte


    I believe they have something like if you kill 12 bears, then get a quest to kill 20, you only need to kill 8 more bears.
    hey if you dont like it, you can always get your hopes up for TAbula Rasa... I'm sure it'll be the next big thing, especially since the combat system is what we all love in SWG haha 

    But seriously tho, I hope it does well... but it will never come close to WAR in subs anyhow

  • icezizimicezizim Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by lordsn0w

    Originally posted by icezizim


    yeah, see nothing really that iv heard about this game (IMO) deserves number one on most antcipated. Darkfall looks the best. :

    Hasnt Darfall been in dev for  something like 6 years now? With very little Info even available after all this time

    im just saying that will endless pvp - no more meat in the gameplay be fun? i can just play counterstrike, cause it sounds like you fight on a battlefield type place.

  • ArchinArchin Member Posts: 103

     

    Originally posted by Anofalye


    The license.
     
    Mythic unability to promote fully the gameplays which appeal to the license fans will have some consequences in the long run.  PvP, RvR, these are natural in a setting such as Warhammer...however, it doesn't justify the lack of a proper PvE

     

    As far as we know, there will be enough PvE in the game, not to much and not to litle... if you want 24/7 PvE raiding there are plenty of other titles that feature mind numbing PvE as end game

  • shadowrunxtshadowrunxt Member UncommonPosts: 121

    This game has so much hype coz this looks like wow. It's a clone actually.

  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    Its not a clone. Warcraft is a clone of warhammer. Everyone knows that except Wow kiddies who think Wow created MMOs.

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Originally posted by Archin


     
    Originally posted by Anofalye


    The license.
     
    Mythic unability to promote fully the gameplays which appeal to the license fans will have some consequences in the long run.  PvP, RvR, these are natural in a setting such as Warhammer...however, it doesn't justify the lack of a proper PvE

     

    As far as we know, there will be enough PvE in the game, not to much and not to litle... if you want 24/7 PvE gaming there are plenty of other titles that feature mind numbing PvE as end game


    That attitude is part of the problem.  Vanguard has this type of attitude, don't let the door hit you on the back while you exit.

     

    Even if it isn't PvE, since you didn't read my whole post, they need to find an alternative to GBT fans, should they, for some reason, not enjoy controlling only 1 character rather then 1 army, or should they dislike it been in real time rather then GBT, or should they dislike to have to relly on others to succeed...since all these 3 points will be new and aliens to GBT warfans, which is the crowd of Warhammer fanbase.  PvE could have been an answer, it isn't.  Then what is there to offer to the overwhelming majority of warhammer fans should they dislike RvR?  Anything else? 

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060

     

     

    Originally posted by icezizim


    Darkfall looks the best.

    It looks the best now, does it?  And you base that opinion on all the great gameplay videos/blogs they've released?  (few and far between) How about reports from the beta test? (wait...those are hard to do).  How about all the gameday events they are running around the country (wait, they aren't even in the US, and aren't exactly touring Europe either).  Perhaps it was the huge presence at E3? (oh, wait, they weren't invited).

     In addition to all the reasons other folks have given why WAR has such a high hype rating, the mere fact that there is more information about it available vs Darkfall (and AOC for that matter) keeps it high on the hype list.

    I just got my WAR Online newsletter yesterday (was crushed that it wasn't my beta invite) and it was full of information about the game.  Several new videos were available, lots of info about in-game artwork (Bright Wizard College looks cool), even fan art and fiction was included......

    Darkfall suffers from a lack of publicity..... and it will be their undoing in the end.  It bears all the markings of Shadowbane right now, (which was a game I enjoyed) and hence it is almost off the map from a visibility standpoint.

    That's not to say Darkfall doesn't have some good looking features (it does) and I'm hoping it gets released one day...but their secretive approach will always leave them fairly far down on the hype meter

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  • lordsn0wlordsn0w Member Posts: 99
    Originally posted by shadowrunxt


    This game has so much hype coz this looks like wow. It's a clone actually.

    I am sick and em very sure many others are as well of tards like you, what relevance does this stupid post have? let alone thought or fact applied to it .

  • shadowrunxtshadowrunxt Member UncommonPosts: 121

    Originally posted by goofy3k


    Its not a clone. Warcraft is a clone of warhammer. Everyone knows that except Wow kiddies who think Wow created MMOs.

    I'm not a WoW kiddy, i don't even play it. It's just famous. If you'll ask the so called "9 million" subscribers of WoW they will tell you that it's a clone.  And yes majority wins.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060

    Originally posted by Anofalye


     
     
     Then what is there to offer to the overwhelming majority of warhammer fans should they dislike RvR?  Anything else? 
    Its called Warhammer 40000, and should be released sometime around 2011.

    Seriously Ano...are you going to whine about the lack of PVE forever on these forums?  Its never going to change, even if the game tanks and falls off the face of the earth.....  

    Even trying to create an alternate PVE only rule set server (like they did in DAOC) will be real difficult with this game and there certainly won't be that much of an incentive (financially) for them to do it.

    Accept the fact, they are trying something different in this game..... designed for PVP from the ground up and as its principal focus.....sure they won't get sub numbers like WOW.... but I think they can get enough to turn a decent profit.....

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  • ArchinArchin Member Posts: 103

    Well Anofalye I see where you comming from but this is an MMO not a RTS  it's all about you and your char.. there will be plenty of PvE but yes woulpd be cool if you could control huge NPC armies, but I think Public quests will make up for this.

    Its going to be epic!

  • CyberWizCyberWiz Member UncommonPosts: 914


    Originally posted by shadowrunxt
    Originally posted by goofy3k Its not a clone. Warcraft is a clone of warhammer. Everyone knows that except Wow kiddies who think Wow created MMOs.
    I'm not a WoW kiddy, i don't even play it. It's just famous. If you'll ask the so called "9 million" subscribers of WoW they will tell you that it's a clone.  And yes majority wins.

    Dont feed this troll :p

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