"Aye, all MMO's have some sort of simularities, see my response above. But I see it personally as again mentioned above, you have all the basics there with one major difference and that is the rvr. In the end, that is great, but it dosn't (in my eyes) make me think "Awsome idea! can't wait!" at first I did, because we really had no clue what Warhammer was headed, now that we do, it has (as mentioned above) all those traits that can be seen in both games. In the end it's all preferences. The only issue here seems to be my comparison to war and wow, but to ignore that is just plain stupid, an orc is an orc etc etc."
The OP's statement is silly and really doesn't hold any water. Guess what there are Humans characters in AoC and there are Humans WoW. even more disturbing is there are Horses in AoC and Horse in WoW OMG AoC is a WoW CLONE!!!
Seems to ne the obly way a game can't be a WoW clone is if you remove most of your choices/options. Races? you want races? You get to be human! Wahd you tink this some WoW clone?!
Personally, I think we should be happy. I mean, think of it, why are people getting so worked up? Because two games are coming out that many people love and feel will be great! Isn't that good news, that two great games are coming out? Isn't that better than having only one option for a new game, or having only games nobody cares about come out? I'd say rejoice in your good fortune fellow MMO players.
You know I'm starting to think that you're the AoC version of anubiss. You make similar posts, and line them with hate towards other games, yet try to make a point about your own game in the process.
You two should get together and I'll yell "There was a fire fight!!!!" Either way, you're both extremely insecure about each game respectively and neither of you have a reason to be. They'll both be successful in their own way.
Well, Checkthis, I had hoped you knew me better than that, but seems not.
I for one am not insecure, but arrogant, that much I admit. Did you see me hate on WAR? Did I ever said AoC would be so much better? Did I say AoC is the only viable way to create PvP? Do you see me yelling over at WAR forums? Do you see me calling WAR a WoW clone?
Yeah, I thought not. That's because of two reasons: I don't give opinions about games I don't know in detail - read: I am wee bit wiser than that. Second, I feel secure about Funcom as a developer, and I trust them ... and I have shares...
Now yes, I do tend to get sarcastic, ironical, and when times call it, blatantly blunt. It depends greatly on who I discuss with. Look at the other threads, look at a post of yours, that I responded to. Did that seem fanboy-ish? Did I keep manners, and explain my thoughs in detail and logic?
Having all said that, I don't mind if you think I am but a rabid fan, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect your choice ... just expected more of a recognition of what I am, that is all.
You know I'm starting to think that you're the AoC version of anubiss. You make similar posts, and line them with hate towards other games, yet try to make a point about your own game in the process.
You two should get together and I'll yell "There was a fire fight!!!!" Either way, you're both extremely insecure about each game respectively and neither of you have a reason to be. They'll both be successful in their own way.
Well, Checkthis, I had hoped you knew me better than that, but seems not.
I for one am not insecure, but arrogant, that much I admit. Did you see me hate on WAR? Did I ever said AoC would be so much better? Did I say AoC is the only viable way to create PvP? Do you see me yelling over at WAR forums? Do you see me calling WAR a WoW clone?
Yeah, I thought not. That's because of two reasons: I don't give opinions about games I don't know in detail - read: I am wee bit wiser than that. Second, I feel secure about Funcom as a developer, and I trust them ... and I have shares...
Now yes, I do tend to get sarcastic, ironical, and when times call it, blatantly blunt. It depends greatly on who I discuss with. Look at the other threads, look at a post of yours, that I responded to. Did that seem fanboy-ish? Did I keep manners, and explain my thoughs in detail and logic?
Having all said that, I don't mind if you think I am but a rabid fan, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect your choice ... just expected more of a recognition of what I am, that is all.
That's why I said you "line your comments with hate." You don't blatantly put it out there, but you can see it in your posts. Like saying "tells us why predetermined RvR is the be all end all." This is obviously a stab at RvR sucking without saying that it does.
And my post was all in fun. I fear for the mental stability of people like anubiss and I do hold you in a higher regard, it's just seeing you two go at it, you sometimes remind me of each other. haha "and I have shares." Awesome.
Though I think to fully get the resemblance you need more CAPS and you need to sign your posts.
AoC IS COMING <insert random smiley faces from below>
Without that you're right, you two are nothing alike.
--------------------------------------------- I live to fight, and fight to live.
I'll tell you which game is better than AoC and Warhammer and in fact encompassed most of the 'new' features they have before it was even developed..... Pre-Cu Star Wars Galaxies!.... *runs off before all the flames start*
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
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I never understood the whole AoC vs WAR thing...well I kinda do, but I just cant see how it can degenerate into so much hate. I mean saying that "my game will beat yours hahahah!!" is so stupid in general, but we all love games here, its a shame people get so riled up over things.
Really...theyre just games. We should get a good laugh at poking at each other, you know teasing with all good intentions, but degenerating into maliscous full out flaming is just wrong.
I never said AoC will beat the crap out of WAR. Realistically speaking I predict more subs to WAR than AoC. I too shall try WAR as well, and give it a very fair chance.
eh got me what you all are talking about, people were complaining on my response to the letter saying War is like Wow, the original message from the person that gave it to me was about war vs aoc yea, but I never really confronted the difference of those two, but instead gave him the reason "why I don't care for War" it is a WoW Clone and I know that just frustrates many till no end. There is one thing that can not be disputed (well unless your a Bill Clinton type and denial is the only thing you know ) is that WoW formed and made by the concepts of Warhammer back in the day. As long as all those features remain the same it is the same game. Sure, they are putting in rvr into war the online game , but eh that's really all that is new.
Heck, after reading a bit more from my friends here on another thread telling me this game has Collision detection I will have to undoubtedly say this is definitely on the cutting edge. For those in the know , doing this sort of technology was a big deal back in the day. So much so it was as constant discussion on many MMO's, such as DAOC. Now that someone has actually done it? Woh! that means blocking is possible, covering entries with tanks is possible and so much more. I know War won't have that or it would have been mentioned (as again in daoc it was a hot topic for sometime and the same guys are making war would have definitely mentioned it) , so it is easy to say this is a top notch pvp game just for that. If you can't see the fun from a concept of collision detection there is no hope for you.
Salu!
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
The reason why people get annoyed with war=wow clone is because it isn't true Well, war is a wow clone if you look at graphics only. because warcraft ripped warhammer's graphics back in the day. And mythic is stikcing with how miniatures look 9and making it similar to wow's graphics in the process, hey, 9 millon subscribers =p why shouldn't they)
War however can't be a wow clone from gameplay pespective even if the devs tried, not unless they completely change most of their fuetures. Now, lotro is a wow clone, different graphics and lore of course, but nearly the same gameplay (well, lotro doesn't have an end game)
Still, how can a game where the goal is to kill opposing faction and sack their city can be a clone of a game where the goal is to farm instance a to get gear to be able to farm instance b for gear to be able to farm instance c? How could they ever be considered clones? You can't even consider them similar beyond the fact you can kill things in both games.
of course, if you feel that graphics are the most important thing in the game and is what ultimately determines what the game is like, then yes, war=wow clone. Gameplay though can't eb more different.
PS: War has collission detection (still undetermined if full or for hostile players only) so, is that enaugh to make it not wow clone? Since you apparently find it so important for aoc.
eh got me what you all are talking about, people were complaining on my response to the letter saying War is like Wow, the original message from the person that gave it to me was about war vs aoc yea, but I never really confronted the difference of those two, but instead gave him the reason "why I don't care for War" it is a WoW Clone and I know that just frustrates many till no end. There is one thing that can not be disputed (well unless your a Bill Clinton type and denial is the only thing you know ) is that WoW formed and made by the concepts of Warhammer back in the day. As long as all those features remain the same it is the same game. Sure, they are putting in rvr into war the online game , but eh that's really all that is new. Heck, after reading a bit more from my friends here on another thread telling me this game has Collision detection I will have to undoubtedly say this is definitely on the cutting edge. For those in the know , doing this sort of technology was a big deal back in the day. So much so it was as constant discussion on many MMO's, such as DAOC. Now that someone has actually done it? Woh! that means blocking is possible, covering entries with tanks is possible and so much more. I know War won't have that or it would have been mentioned (as again in daoc it was a hot topic for sometime and the same guys are making war would have definitely mentioned it) , so it is easy to say this is a top notch pvp game just for that. If you can't see the fun from a concept of collision detection there is no hope for you.
Salu!
Um.... WAR does have collision detection, and it has been mentioned before...
You were so busy repeating to yourself 'WAR is a war clone' you probably missed it...
Please learn the real facts before making such sweeping judgements. And for god sakes... don't trust the AoC fanboys to provide the 'facts' for you about WAR.
Um.... WAR does have collision detection, and it has been mentioned before...
You were so busy repeating to yourself 'WAR is a war clone' you probably missed it...
Please learn the real facts before making such sweeping judgements. And for god sakes... don't trust the AoC fanboys to provide the 'facts' for you about WAR.
Actually your wrong...
A direct quote from the grab bag, remember I use to play DAOC, so I know mythics background very well sense I was there for apx 4 years! So I know this question and answer and I will bet dollars to donuts it wont. Why? because they gave the same answers to us in DAOC and this will be final response... "We decided not to put in collision detection to speed up the servers and stop possible exploting, no worries it will still be great!" .. I am a huge fan of the mythic team and one in particular is their personal rep to the community Sanya Thomas, she is awsome and really gets the info out. So here is that grab bag and the link. In their past they have said the same thing "we will look into it and test it and see how it works with yada yada yada" and again we got the same response. Not that no collision detection will make the game suck, hell DAOC is by far to this date the best RVR out there, so Warhammer will rock in that reguard, but in any other aspect, it be a cloneeeeeeee... oooo I said it again!
Q: Will collision detection work on friends, enemies, or both?
A: Questions like this were the second-tallest stack on my desk. We are trying all possible combinations of collision detection as I type this, including the dream we all have of "both." Of course we want it. In an RVR game, there are many strategies that are only possible with collision detection. Can we do it in such a way that allows for strategy but not for grief? I think we need to do some serious play testing of collision detection in the world that we've built. But there's no way I can say for sure what the final result will be in June 2006 for a game that won't launch until Fall 2007. ( I highlited the "like this" because it wasn't just the only question, IE not the only question about technical specs, so save your breath on, "but everyone wants it". In the past this was true, now adays, no one really thinks twice about it except us old timers and now sense I brought it up you make comments on it to make an argument. Sure it "could" be in, but as of right now this very moment, AOC has this and Warhammer does not)
Needless to say this is again the wrong forum section to keep bringing this up, but you guys just don't give up, just like the blind fanbots of Darkfall. Never did I say Warhammer will be a failure or did I say I hope it falls into the black hole. I love Mythic as a company , I just don't care for a clone.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Um.... WAR does have collision detection, and it has been mentioned before...
You were so busy repeating to yourself 'WAR is a war clone' you probably missed it...
Please learn the real facts before making such sweeping judgements. And for god sakes... don't trust the AoC fanboys to provide the 'facts' for you about WAR.
Actually your wrong...
A direct quote from the grab bag, remember I use to play DAOC, so I know mythics background very well sense I was there for apx 4 years! So I know this question and answer and I will bet dollars to donuts it wont. Why? because they gave the same answers to us in DAOC and this will be final response... "We decided not to put in collision detection to speed up the servers and stop possible exploting, no worries it will still be great!" .. I am a huge fan of the mythic team and one in particular is their personal rep to the community Sanya Thomas, she is awsome and really gets the info out. So here is that grab bag and the link. In their past they have said the same thing "we will look into it and test it and see how it works with yada yada yada" and again we got the same response. Not that no collision detection will make the game suck, hell DAOC is by far to this date the best RVR out there, so Warhammer will rock in that reguard, but in any other aspect, it be a cloneeeeeeee... oooo I said it again!
Q: Will collision detection work on friends, enemies, or both?
A: Questions like this were the second-tallest stack on my desk. We are trying all possible combinations of collision detection as I type this, including the dream we all have of "both." Of course we want it. In an RVR game, there are many strategies that are only possible with collision detection. Can we do it in such a way that allows for strategy but not for grief? I think we need to do some serious play testing of collision detection in the world that we've built. But there's no way I can say for sure what the final result will be in June 2006 for a game that won't launch until Fall 2007. ( I highlited the "like this" because it wasn't just the only question, IE not the only question about technical specs, so save your breath on, "but everyone wants it". In the past this was true, now adays, no one really thinks twice about it except us old timers and now sense I brought it up you make comments on it to make an argument. Sure it "could" be in, but as of right now this very moment, AOC has this and Warhammer does not)
Needless to say this is again the wrong forum section to keep bringing this up, but you guys just don't give up, just like the blind fanbots of Darkfall. Never did I say Warhammer will be a failure or did I say I hope it falls into the black hole. I love Mythic as a company , I just don't care for a clone.
Uh thats a tad old. Paul has said its being put in . Recently. Thats back a bit. One of the main focuses of a tank is CD. Without that its broken class. I also think there are a few videos of a orc trying to jump over another race and cant do it. If i find it ill post it.
Oh yea and AoC looks like a snooze fest =P. LMAO funcom. Ah..Makes me smile
A MMO similar to WoW, but different. That's a good idea. WoW is a great game. WAR will be a great game and AoC will be a great game. Everyone is so damn closed minded these days. Play both of the games. If you can't afford it, stop eating at Mcee Dees for at least 2 days a month.
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The reason why people get annoyed with war=wow clone is because it isn't true Well, war is a wow clone if you look at graphics only. because warcraft ripped warhammer's graphics back in the day. And mythic is stikcing with how miniatures look 9and making it similar to wow's graphics in the process, hey, 9 millon subscribers =p why shouldn't they) War however can't be a wow clone from gameplay pespective even if the devs tried, not unless they completely change most of their fuetures. Now, lotro is a wow clone, different graphics and lore of course, but nearly the same gameplay (well, lotro doesn't have an end game) Still, how can a game where the goal is to kill opposing faction and sack their city can be a clone of a game where the goal is to farm instance a to get gear to be able to farm instance b for gear to be able to farm instance c? How could they ever be considered clones? You can't even consider them similar beyond the fact you can kill things in both games.
of course, if you feel that graphics are the most important thing in the game and is what ultimately determines what the game is like, then yes, war=wow clone. Gameplay though can't eb more different. PS: War has collission detection (still undetermined if full or for hostile players only) so, is that enaugh to make it not wow clone? Since you apparently find it so important for aoc.
Well, WAR may have different objectives but I can guarantee actually playing it will feel EXTREMELY similar to that of WoW. From the combat videos I've seen it looks exactly to that of WoW. Looks like a WoW battleground at that with the exact same combat system (that of which I never found fun or rewarding in pvp). Ultimately there is no real change in what you're doing. Are you playing dynamic battlegrounds all day? I don't get it, that seems ridiculously boring imo which is why I quit WoW.
AoC however, the major thing that makes me want to play it is the new battle system and the battle system alone. Not pvp features, not rvr which I really care not about, it's HOW you go about fighting other players. It's not boring WoW combat. I'm not sitting there auto-shooting arrows from a distance getting a snack. I'm either actively there fighting or I'm doing absolutely nothing and standing idle. This changes the way PVP works GREATLY and thus makes AoC a much different mmo than the rest since they went for something unique. WoW is boring imo, and you would probably only like WAR if you weren't INSANELY bored of WoW. That, or you for some reason wanted to get more out of WoW PVP, which then WAR is the expansion pack for just that.
Uh thats a tad old. Paul has said its being put in . Recently. Thats back a bit. One of the main focuses of a tank is CD. Without that its broken class. I also think there are a few videos of a orc trying to jump over another race and cant do it. If i find it ill post it.
Oh yea and AoC looks like a snooze fest =P. LMAO funcom. Ah..Makes me smile
aye please do, not that I want to start another argument, I am actually intrested to see if they actually finally pulled it off. I never could figure why they wouldn't in daoc, maybe the engine? Eh don't know, I would definitly need to see this quote from a dev thou or an offical posting, key features listed or something, I have a hard time believing after all these years they are adding such a feature in any game lol. Still thou, daoc rvr is/was the best.
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"Aye, all MMO's have some sort of simularities, see my response above. But I see it personally as again mentioned above, you have all the basics there with one major difference and that is the rvr. In the end, that is great, but it dosn't (in my eyes) make me think "Awsome idea! can't wait!" at first I did, because we really had no clue what Warhammer was headed, now that we do, it has (as mentioned above) all those traits that can be seen in both games. In the end it's all preferences. The only issue here seems to be my comparison to war and wow, but to ignore that is just plain stupid, an orc is an orc etc etc."
The OP's statement is silly and really doesn't hold any water. Guess what there are Humans characters in AoC and there are Humans WoW. even more disturbing is there are Horses in AoC and Horse in WoW OMG AoC is a WoW CLONE!!!
Seems to ne the obly way a game can't be a WoW clone is if you remove most of your choices/options. Races? you want races? You get to be human! Wahd you tink this some WoW clone?!
Personally, I think we should be happy. I mean, think of it, why are people getting so worked up? Because two games are coming out that many people love and feel will be great! Isn't that good news, that two great games are coming out? Isn't that better than having only one option for a new game, or having only games nobody cares about come out? I'd say rejoice in your good fortune fellow MMO players.
I for one am not insecure, but arrogant, that much I admit. Did you see me hate on WAR? Did I ever said AoC would be so much better? Did I say AoC is the only viable way to create PvP? Do you see me yelling over at WAR forums? Do you see me calling WAR a WoW clone?
Yeah, I thought not. That's because of two reasons: I don't give opinions about games I don't know in detail - read: I am wee bit wiser than that. Second, I feel secure about Funcom as a developer, and I trust them ... and I have shares...
Now yes, I do tend to get sarcastic, ironical, and when times call it, blatantly blunt. It depends greatly on who I discuss with. Look at the other threads, look at a post of yours, that I responded to. Did that seem fanboy-ish? Did I keep manners, and explain my thoughs in detail and logic?
Having all said that, I don't mind if you think I am but a rabid fan, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect your choice ... just expected more of a recognition of what I am, that is all.
wow. thats why i dont list my email due to people that have no live and take opinons to seruoisly to where they email you a flame.
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I for one am not insecure, but arrogant, that much I admit. Did you see me hate on WAR? Did I ever said AoC would be so much better? Did I say AoC is the only viable way to create PvP? Do you see me yelling over at WAR forums? Do you see me calling WAR a WoW clone?
Yeah, I thought not. That's because of two reasons: I don't give opinions about games I don't know in detail - read: I am wee bit wiser than that. Second, I feel secure about Funcom as a developer, and I trust them ... and I have shares...
Now yes, I do tend to get sarcastic, ironical, and when times call it, blatantly blunt. It depends greatly on who I discuss with. Look at the other threads, look at a post of yours, that I responded to. Did that seem fanboy-ish? Did I keep manners, and explain my thoughs in detail and logic?
Having all said that, I don't mind if you think I am but a rabid fan, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect your choice ... just expected more of a recognition of what I am, that is all.
That's why I said you "line your comments with hate." You don't blatantly put it out there, but you can see it in your posts. Like saying "tells us why predetermined RvR is the be all end all." This is obviously a stab at RvR sucking without saying that it does.And my post was all in fun. I fear for the mental stability of people like anubiss and I do hold you in a higher regard, it's just seeing you two go at it, you sometimes remind me of each other.
haha "and I have shares." Awesome.
Though I think to fully get the resemblance you need more CAPS and you need to sign your posts.
AoC IS COMING <insert random smiley faces from below>
Without that you're right, you two are nothing alike.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
I'll tell you which game is better than AoC and Warhammer and in fact encompassed most of the 'new' features they have before it was even developed..... Pre-Cu Star Wars Galaxies!.... *runs off before all the flames start*
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
I plan to try both AoC and WAR so where does that leave me in this AoC vs WAR fight?
As one of the few more rational posters?
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I never understood the whole AoC vs WAR thing...well I kinda do, but I just cant see how it can degenerate into so much hate. I mean saying that "my game will beat yours hahahah!!" is so stupid in general, but we all love games here, its a shame people get so riled up over things.
Really...theyre just games. We should get a good laugh at poking at each other, you know teasing with all good intentions, but degenerating into maliscous full out flaming is just wrong.
I never said AoC will beat the crap out of WAR. Realistically speaking I predict more subs to WAR than AoC. I too shall try WAR as well, and give it a very fair chance.
eh got me what you all are talking about, people were complaining on my response to the letter saying War is like Wow, the original message from the person that gave it to me was about war vs aoc yea, but I never really confronted the difference of those two, but instead gave him the reason "why I don't care for War" it is a WoW Clone and I know that just frustrates many till no end. There is one thing that can not be disputed (well unless your a Bill Clinton type and denial is the only thing you know ) is that WoW formed and made by the concepts of Warhammer back in the day. As long as all those features remain the same it is the same game. Sure, they are putting in rvr into war the online game , but eh that's really all that is new.
Heck, after reading a bit more from my friends here on another thread telling me this game has Collision detection I will have to undoubtedly say this is definitely on the cutting edge. For those in the know , doing this sort of technology was a big deal back in the day. So much so it was as constant discussion on many MMO's, such as DAOC. Now that someone has actually done it? Woh! that means blocking is possible, covering entries with tanks is possible and so much more. I know War won't have that or it would have been mentioned (as again in daoc it was a hot topic for sometime and the same guys are making war would have definitely mentioned it) , so it is easy to say this is a top notch pvp game just for that. If you can't see the fun from a concept of collision detection there is no hope for you.
Salu!
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
The reason why people get annoyed with war=wow clone is because it isn't true
Well, war is a wow clone if you look at graphics only. because warcraft ripped warhammer's graphics back in the day. And mythic is stikcing with how miniatures look 9and making it similar to wow's graphics in the process, hey, 9 millon subscribers =p why shouldn't they)
War however can't be a wow clone from gameplay pespective even if the devs tried, not unless they completely change most of their fuetures. Now, lotro is a wow clone, different graphics and lore of course, but nearly the same gameplay (well, lotro doesn't have an end game)
Still, how can a game where the goal is to kill opposing faction and sack their city can be a clone of a game where the goal is to farm instance a to get gear to be able to farm instance b for gear to be able to farm instance c? How could they ever be considered clones? You can't even consider them similar beyond the fact you can kill things in both games.
of course, if you feel that graphics are the most important thing in the game and is what ultimately determines what the game is like, then yes, war=wow clone. Gameplay though can't eb more different.
PS: War has collission detection (still undetermined if full or for hostile players only) so, is that enaugh to make it not wow clone?
Since you apparently find it so important for aoc.
Um.... WAR does have collision detection, and it has been mentioned before...
You were so busy repeating to yourself 'WAR is a war clone' you probably missed it...
Please learn the real facts before making such sweeping judgements. And for god sakes... don't trust the AoC fanboys to provide the 'facts' for you about WAR.
Actually your wrong...
A direct quote from the grab bag, remember I use to play DAOC, so I know mythics background very well sense I was there for apx 4 years! So I know this question and answer and I will bet dollars to donuts it wont. Why? because they gave the same answers to us in DAOC and this will be final response... "We decided not to put in collision detection to speed up the servers and stop possible exploting, no worries it will still be great!" .. I am a huge fan of the mythic team and one in particular is their personal rep to the community Sanya Thomas, she is awsome and really gets the info out. So here is that grab bag and the link. In their past they have said the same thing "we will look into it and test it and see how it works with yada yada yada" and again we got the same response. Not that no collision detection will make the game suck, hell DAOC is by far to this date the best RVR out there, so Warhammer will rock in that reguard, but in any other aspect, it be a cloneeeeeeee... oooo I said it again!
Q: Will collision detection work on friends, enemies, or both?
A: Questions like this were the second-tallest stack on my desk. We are trying all possible combinations of collision detection as I type this, including the dream we all have of "both." Of course we want it. In an RVR game, there are many strategies that are only possible with collision detection. Can we do it in such a way that allows for strategy but not for grief? I think we need to do some serious play testing of collision detection in the world that we've built. But there's no way I can say for sure what the final result will be in June 2006 for a game that won't launch until Fall 2007. ( I highlited the "like this" because it wasn't just the only question, IE not the only question about technical specs, so save your breath on, "but everyone wants it". In the past this was true, now adays, no one really thinks twice about it except us old timers and now sense I brought it up you make comments on it to make an argument. Sure it "could" be in, but as of right now this very moment, AOC has this and Warhammer does not)
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/community/grabBag/grabBag_june.php
Needless to say this is again the wrong forum section to keep bringing this up, but you guys just don't give up, just like the blind fanbots of Darkfall. Never did I say Warhammer will be a failure or did I say I hope it falls into the black hole. I love Mythic as a company , I just don't care for a clone.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Actually your wrong...
A direct quote from the grab bag, remember I use to play DAOC, so I know mythics background very well sense I was there for apx 4 years! So I know this question and answer and I will bet dollars to donuts it wont. Why? because they gave the same answers to us in DAOC and this will be final response... "We decided not to put in collision detection to speed up the servers and stop possible exploting, no worries it will still be great!" .. I am a huge fan of the mythic team and one in particular is their personal rep to the community Sanya Thomas, she is awsome and really gets the info out. So here is that grab bag and the link. In their past they have said the same thing "we will look into it and test it and see how it works with yada yada yada" and again we got the same response. Not that no collision detection will make the game suck, hell DAOC is by far to this date the best RVR out there, so Warhammer will rock in that reguard, but in any other aspect, it be a cloneeeeeeee... oooo I said it again!
Q: Will collision detection work on friends, enemies, or both?
A: Questions like this were the second-tallest stack on my desk. We are trying all possible combinations of collision detection as I type this, including the dream we all have of "both." Of course we want it. In an RVR game, there are many strategies that are only possible with collision detection. Can we do it in such a way that allows for strategy but not for grief? I think we need to do some serious play testing of collision detection in the world that we've built. But there's no way I can say for sure what the final result will be in June 2006 for a game that won't launch until Fall 2007. ( I highlited the "like this" because it wasn't just the only question, IE not the only question about technical specs, so save your breath on, "but everyone wants it". In the past this was true, now adays, no one really thinks twice about it except us old timers and now sense I brought it up you make comments on it to make an argument. Sure it "could" be in, but as of right now this very moment, AOC has this and Warhammer does not)
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/community/grabBag/grabBag_june.php
Needless to say this is again the wrong forum section to keep bringing this up, but you guys just don't give up, just like the blind fanbots of Darkfall. Never did I say Warhammer will be a failure or did I say I hope it falls into the black hole. I love Mythic as a company , I just don't care for a clone.
Uh thats a tad old. Paul has said its being put in
. Recently. Thats back a bit. One of the main focuses of a tank is CD. Without that its broken class. I also think there are a few videos of a orc trying to jump over another race and cant do it. If i find it ill post it.
Oh yea and AoC looks like a snooze fest =P. LMAO funcom. Ah..Makes me smile
Whats so bad about being a WoW clone, It's one of the most successful MMO of all time?
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Final Fantasy 7
A MMO similar to WoW, but different. That's a good idea. WoW is a great game. WAR will be a great game and AoC will be a great game. Everyone is so damn closed minded these days. Play both of the games. If you can't afford it, stop eating at Mcee Dees for at least 2 days a month.
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Well, WAR may have different objectives but I can guarantee actually playing it will feel EXTREMELY similar to that of WoW. From the combat videos I've seen it looks exactly to that of WoW. Looks like a WoW battleground at that with the exact same combat system (that of which I never found fun or rewarding in pvp). Ultimately there is no real change in what you're doing. Are you playing dynamic battlegrounds all day? I don't get it, that seems ridiculously boring imo which is why I quit WoW.
AoC however, the major thing that makes me want to play it is the new battle system and the battle system alone. Not pvp features, not rvr which I really care not about, it's HOW you go about fighting other players. It's not boring WoW combat. I'm not sitting there auto-shooting arrows from a distance getting a snack. I'm either actively there fighting or I'm doing absolutely nothing and standing idle. This changes the way PVP works GREATLY and thus makes AoC a much different mmo than the rest since they went for something unique. WoW is boring imo, and you would probably only like WAR if you weren't INSANELY bored of WoW. That, or you for some reason wanted to get more out of WoW PVP, which then WAR is the expansion pack for just that.
aye please do, not that I want to start another argument, I am actually intrested to see if they actually finally pulled it off. I never could figure why they wouldn't in daoc, maybe the engine? Eh don't know, I would definitly need to see this quote from a dev thou or an offical posting, key features listed or something, I have a hard time believing after all these years they are adding such a feature in any game lol. Still thou, daoc rvr is/was the best.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
and we know this all about these games how?
No one here knows sh** about these games. Unless you are breaking a NDA, keep the fanboism to a low.
Total time played: 9125 Days, 21 Hours, 29 Minutes, 27 Seconds
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I think both games will be great! Unfortunetly I can only choose one mmo,(I never play two mmo's at the same time.)