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This game is an abomination.
This garbage game has destroyed the MMORPG industry. Just because it was the first 3D game to come after Ultima Online every other game out there has ripped a cookie cutter clone version of EQ.
This game is an abomination, it should be cursed forever because it poisoned the industry. One day people will see the light and a games will start to come out that will pick up where UO pretrammel left off.
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Ok, get ready to be immolated. This game set the stage for all other current day MMO's. It WAS the first 3D so it started the trend. This game is not an abomination, its a classic. It is a little complicated and graphics are dated, but were AMAZING back then. Please, dont tear at the roots of the tree before it comes crashing down on you.
Heh this was by far the dumbest comment I have ever read......
I agree that it is an abomination in its current condition.....
Pre luclin however it was the most immersive game I ever played. The community was outstanding and the quests were spectacular and deep. If only SWG in its classic form had achieved the depth tha EQ once had it would have been the greatest game ever made.
Alas it wasnt meant to be. the Whole genre has gone right down the crapper.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
Most true post ever.
I loved UO pre-Weenieland... er... Trammel... But you aren't going to see me cursing EQ for other devs lacking vision (NOT "The Vision") and creativity.
If anything, I'd blame the direction of the industry now on WoW for being a polished, refined, mass-market version of "EQ For Dummies". Before WoW, MMORPGs weren't even on the map for most gamers outside of the niche market. Now that there's a game out there that is so popular that you can buy "Alliance" and "Horde" t-shirts, buttons, and ball caps at your local mall, what makes you think anyone is going to break out of that basic mold? EQ was never that popular.
If you are trying to get a rise out of current EQ fans, you might as well look elsewhere, btw. This forum is full of jaded old-timers who have heard your argument a thousand times already. A few here are likely to say that SOE has cursed the game forever already, since... 8 or 9 expansions ago. (I don't know that I fall into that camp, but they are here, at least some of the time. Slow board, relatively speaking.)
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
Well, they totally screwed a very fun family, friend, and group game with raiding.
Yes. We enjoyed raiding, maybe once a week or once every other week.
The people that can log in, 6:00pm EST every other night to zerg raid are a MINORITY. Most do not have a lot of MONEY. Many are probably using Parents' money and are not LONG-TERM SUBBERS when they graduate or obtain a job. We, the casual and friend, family, solo people are the MAJORITY with MONEY.
Leave us our niche game.
EverQuest was never intended to be a casual friendly game that would allow solo play. From release it was stated, intended and designed to be group required content. When the players began raiding - the devs just provided what they ask for - more raid content (we have only ourselves to blame!)
I only play 3 times a week. For appx 3 hours. I'm in a guild with almost 500 members. We all have fun, chat, group and play. And yes, we do raid.
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nm - wrong forum :-P
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My dog barks some. Mentally you picture my dog, but I have not told you the type of dog which I have. Perhaps you even picture Toto, from "The Wizard of Oz." But I warn you, my dog is always with me.
Leave us our niche game.
Let any investors or game company stupid enough to ever create a game for you suffer the consequences of games like VSoH!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Leave us our niche game.
Let any investors or game company stupid enough to ever create a game for you suffer the consequences of games like VSoH!
Sheesh. What do you want? EQ is 8 years old. It didn't destroy the industry. It followed in UO's footsteps in setting the precedent for what the industry is today. When UO and EQ were released, there was not much of an MMORPG industry to destroy. I'm assuming you're just bored and wanting to start a flame war or something, cause your accusations are baseless and make zero sense. I was never an EQ fan, but you have to give credit where credit is due. And, if you're so content with WoW, why would you waste your time attacking EQ or any other game--past OR present?
Consider golf clubs. The best, universally agreed, are Titleist golf clubs. The most popular golf clubs are not titleist. WoW is a cheap game that can be played on cheap PCs. It does not have any depth to it or interesting graphics. The gameplay is mostly repetitive, and the end-game is extremely repetitive. To achieve "uberness" requires very little thinking, skill, knowledge, or strategy. The amount of Asians that play WoW is greater than the USA and EU combined. Asian MMOs are notoriously repetitive and grindy.
A product that is popular does not make it the best.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
It's this sort of, "highly informative, richly detailed, time consuming, and ever-so intelligent assessment," that makes people like me try the game out. In fact I just resubbed a second ago. What I don't understand is why so many people insist on not letting their own life advance past a certain point. A certain IRL level cap if you will. Solid opinion doesn't hold any concrete status on these forums or do people just not get it? Every day it is said on these very threads that if you have something negative to say you better have REAL info to back it up. I let myself ponder sometimes just what these, "Trolls" do on an everyday basis. Are they like burning with such rage that they MUST say their two cents worth...and pretend it is worth something here? Man, some people can't separate the game world from the real world...
Don't let any WoW players hear you say that.
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An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. - Jef Mallett
No it is not , unless you are one of that small minority of people that became Vanboi fanatics, because you were sure that VG+Brad would be the 2nd coming of Christ and EQ combined.
Early EQ sucked. It was buggy, it was full of stupid time sinks, and had 293 other problems that I don't have time to go into now.
The only reason that you and the other "EQ died with xxx" are so upset is because the game evolved, and you could not.
I think Darwin mentioned something about that, in reference to the Dodo Bird.
= abomination. Really.
Open PvP realms in DAoC proved the same concept that UO pretrammel did. If you let players grief whoever they want to without restrictions, the 5% that are assholes will chase away the 95% that aren't. And then the 5% will leave becasue they don't have anyone left to pick on. Shadowbane gave us further proof of this basic truth. No large game company will ever be stupid enough to wast money on that basic design again. It doesn't work for mass market titles.
The only game I can think of to do moderately well with a FFA PvP design is EVE. And even there you have large areas of "safe space" where care bears can hang out and new players can get on their feet.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
= abomination. Really.
Open PvP realms in DAoC proved the same concept that UO pretrammel did. If you let players grief whoever they want to without restrictions, the 5% that are assholes will chase away the 95% that aren't. And then the 5% will leave becasue they don't have anyone left to pick on. Shadowbane gave us further proof of this basic truth. No large game company will ever be stupid enough to wast money on that basic design again. It doesn't work for mass market titles.
The only game I can think of to do moderately well with a FFA PvP design is EVE. And even there you have large areas of "safe space" where care bears can hang out and new players can get on their feet.
Griefing includes the pin heads playing Necromancers sitting on GROUP spawns camping them 24/7 and passing their account info to their friends so they could continue farming that spot and selling on ebay. A.K.A. early EQ designed to provide these players the ability to do this by a piss poor designer who can't balance classes to save his newest game which also has camping/broken classes/and no one willing to pay for this crap anymore with WoW out there!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
The UO trolls are amusing
Same could be said for UO? WoW>UO+Shadowbane.
wow > all in list here...
But i really admire wow haters who make dozen new accounts on this server to vote against it...
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Lol wow better than EQ, thats funny.
Nitrogen is better than Oxygen, cause there's much more in the air.
I disagree, this depend of the criterea ...
For a golf club, your criterea, are (I suppose, I don't play golf) precision and length of the shot ...
For a game, it's the number of customer. And so, WoW is one of the three best MMO out there.
Don't get me wrong, I don't play WoW and don't like it past level 20
But you just cannot say WoW is not actually the best MMO ("in general").
Well whats "best" for you isnt "best" for me....so i really dont know why are all of you arguing about what is "best" when its question of opinion...is blue coloru better than green
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Untill i find something better im playing wow...EQ is dieing...WoW is dieing...LOTRO is dieing...we are dieing...everything is dieing from day its born so its just question how fast will it die
For me WoW will die when i find and discover something "new and improved"...i didnt find it so far...and i tried good part of games here...Same is will rest of you (most of you) i guess...you found your virtual world you are enjoing so why change it? EQ is good game, Eve online is good game, Lotro is good game and WoW is good game...
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
I disagree, this depend of the criterea ...
For a golf club, your criterea, are (I suppose, I don't play golf) precision and length of the shot ...
For a game, it's the number of customer. And so, WoW is one of the three best MMO out there.
Don't get me wrong, I don't play WoW and don't like it past level 20
But you just cannot say WoW is not actually the best MMO ("in general").
Sorry you're wrong, and I'm actually stunned at your logic..... popularity has nothing whatsoever to do with how good something is. That's the type of comment someone who follows the heard would say. The type of person who if they saw 100 people jump off a bridge would probably follow, because all those people can't be wrong??How good a game is is 100% personal opinion and nothing to do with popularity or how many people play it.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
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".......How good a game is is 100% personal opinion and nothing to do with popularity or how many people play it. ......"
How true.
I mean take a look at Britney Spears and boy bands.....WoW used the same kind of distribution and ended up with the same exact numbers.
I guess this means...b/c Britney and Boy Bands and Justin Timberlake rule the charts on sales and billboard top40 and top100 hits month after month...week after week....this deems it the best!?
therefore I am forced to assume without any iota of a reasonable doubt that - all the people that say what they say of WoW's success and such MUST agree that Britney spears music is the best !!! and they love it. i suppose, boy bands posters MUST adorn all their bedrooms.
why?...well b/c they sold millions and millions of copies..and they are still selling. had NOTHING to do with distribution, video production and promotion, advertising blah blah and yadda yadda.....it was 100% the polish and pizzaz and the dancing and vocal talent they all possess, that made them household names.
The people have spoken - they CANT be wrong ..right? its the best 'end-all' of ALL music!
/snicker.
but not to get off topic...if you had the experience of playing in eq1 within the first 3 years...wait no..thats wrong...first 5 years of its release.....( of course the first 6months-1year was a pain with bugs and probs).....you would have LOVED it. The gameplay, the community, the diversity, the world, the quests, the mobs, the leveling, the tradeskills, ............and...the people. you would have loved it.
especially since n-o-t-h-i-n-g else existed that even closely compared until years after. sure the 800-1200 hour customer template of time , that everyone had to go(pay monthly's) thru, stunk...but heck.....they spawned the games you LOVE and play today, Games today, which you are most likely a member or subscriber of, show NO signs of NOT charging you monthly also for 800-1200 hours of time to even remotely reach the all-elusive "End-game" or top level.
just be glad todays games didnt get released back in 1997-1999....take example WoW, - if it had came out back then, ho boyeee.......can you imagine waiting in a queu for a long time on dial-up or add that to using AoL! then getting timed out or dial-up dissconnected while the BG opens.......then add that to the server collisions and ye olden time hardware connectivity probs that blizzard would have had.......of course provided that blizzard would have distributed their game back then with the same M-TV type of campaign they did just a couple years back....omg...millions trying to get on , on dialup and AoL and such.
lmao.
blizzard would have never taken the dive..they would NEVER do anything in the Online MMorpg genre that was new, they sat back and gave you what already existed. even though all the games prior to WOW has had most all of its problems solved anyway. So everyone in wow is bascially playing eq1 anyway....heh
I think everyone would have mainly LD'd during the wait for a BG to open and then almost 80% of time be forced to just simply log off.(remember the wait for the shuttles and then ship to FV on EQ!1 ~?! lol)
anyway. i wouldnt call EQ1 an abomination, however what I WOULD call an abomination is ANY game's fanboi's, that plays and defends a game in which draws upon the same concepts and 'time'-template' that eq1 started......continue it ...and profits off it nowadays, with the fanboi knowing full well he/she is playing the EXACT same game as eq1, just in a different skin, and chastising it to boot.
basically..that is complaining about the very game one presently plays!
deliciously hilarious.
to say the least
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Who should you really blame? The makers of the game or the many people who copied the game?
Played: EQ, EQ2, Vanguard, WAR, WoW, LoTRO, CoX, CO, GW2, FFXIV: ARR, AoC, Rift, TSW, SWTOR, TERA, BnS, ESO