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Aventurine was founded in 2005????

ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

So I've read that this Aventurine company was founded in 2005 and is only 2 years old yet in all those lengthy two years it's managed to make a plethora of simulations for the military and secure a 24 million dollar loan.

 hmmm  I DON'T THINK SO.

There isn't a lender alive anywhere that would a give a company that is only a few years old a 20 million loan let alone a few thousand dollar loan.

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  • AethiosAethios Member Posts: 1,527

    Good thing they weren't founded in 2005 then.

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    It's the same if they were founded in 2003 even.   2 years more makes no difference.  No one is going to give a company that is barely a few years old 20 million dollars.

  • ndpunchndpunch Member Posts: 208

    I remember Google getting 25 million investment -99.

    The company was founded -98.

     

    End of discussion.

     

     

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    well you remembered wrong

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by ndpunch


    I remember Google getting 25 million investment -99.
    The company was founded -98.
     
    End of discussion.
     
     

    Freakin owned'

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    where did they get 25 mill show me.

  • daelnordaelnor Member UncommonPosts: 1,556


    Originally posted by Yatenkaiohu
    Originally posted by ndpunch I remember Google getting 25 million investment -99.
    The company was founded -98.
     
    End of discussion.
     
     
    Freakin owned'

    LOL

    D.

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  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

     

     

    Originally posted by daelnor


     

    Originally posted by Yatenkaiohu


    Originally posted by ndpunch
     
    I remember Google getting 25 million investment -99.

    The company was founded -98.

     

    End of discussion.

     

     



    Freakin owned'

     

    LOL

    D.

     

    I am still waiting for the proof that google got 25 mill investment in 1998.

    and even if they did.  Aventurine is no Gooogle.

  • ndpunchndpunch Member Posts: 208

     

    Originally posted by ttitan


    well you remembered wrong

     

     

    In September 1998, Google Inc. opened its door in Menlo Park, California.

    On June 7 1999, the company anounced that it had secured a round of funding that included $25 million from the two leading venture capital firms in Silicon Valley, Sequoia Capital and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers.

    If you want proof, use Google

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    I might as well just throw this in in case he's like "OMG GIVE ME A LINK!"



    http://www.google.com/corporate/history.html

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    wheres the public information from Aventurine saying that they got a 24 mill loan the way google has listed on their corporate site?

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by ttitan


    wheres the public information from Aventurine saying that they got a 24 mill loan the way google has listed on their corporate site?
    You would think that getting a loan like that is cause for a press release but for some strange reason there never is one.

    It was already posted in this forum, go look around. I'm so tired of trolls :(. How the hell do you know Aventurine isn't going to be the next Google of mmorpg's? If you doubt the game coming out then why even post? Every time I come on this board someone like you is starting some kind of stupid topic about this crap.



    The proof is all in font of you, just use the search function or look around.

  • ndpunchndpunch Member Posts: 208

    Originally posted by ttitan


    wheres the public information from Aventurine saying that they got a 24 mill loan the way google has listed on their corporate site?
    You would think that getting a loan like that is cause for a press release but for some strange reason there never is one.
    Yes, because in business world nobody ever wants to keep anything as a secret.

    You don't know first thing about the subject you are trying to talk about here, do you? FYI, usually when someone makes an huge investment on something, it usually comes with few terms. One of them just might be not to make it public.

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    and google is a bad example considering it was founded around the internet boom years (1995-1998). It was very easy to get funded back then with new internet related companies.  Try doing that today and see how far you get.

    Name some new start-up game developers with no experience , never made a game before, that got 20 mill in funding today.  It doesn't happen.

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by ttitan


    and google is a bad example considering it was founded around the internet boom years (1995-1998). It was very easy to get funded back then with new internet related companies.  Try doing that today and see how far you get.
    Name some new start-up game developers with no experience , never made a game before, that got 20 mill in funding today.  It doesn't happen.

    That is such a hard one! I'm really trying to think here.. oh wait How about that company called Aventurine! They did that and they are pretty new!

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    "The proof is all in font of you"

    No there isn't and thats the problem. Theres never been any solid proof of anything to do with this project for the last 7 years. Just vague tid bits here and there and broken promises year after year after year.

     

    "That is such a hard one! I'm really trying to think here.. oh wait How about that company called Aventurine! They did that and they are pretty new!"

     

    really? wheres the PROOF?  and not proof as in some link to some vague mention on some page at the ass end of the internet smewhere.

    Wheres proof like this???

    http://www.mythicentertainment.com/press/ta_mythic1.html

  • ndpunchndpunch Member Posts: 208

    Originally posted by ttitan


    and google is a bad example considering it was founded around the internet boom years (1995-1998). It was very easy to get funded back then with new internet related cimpanies.  Try doing that today and see how far you get.
    Name some new start-up game developers with no experience , never made a game before, that got 20 mill in funding today.  It doesn't happen.
    If you really think that online gaming isn't booming right now, then you really are a moron. After WoW's success, I don't find it odd at all them getting that kind of money.

    If you really are interested these sort of things (which I highly doubt), do your own research instead of coming here whining.

    You do know how to use Google...right...?

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    Yeah I thought that about a game called Project Offset, but then someone leaked a video of it and I know it's still in the works. New companys want to just keep quiet about what they are doing. There's proof if you read through the posts and topics on this forum or the Darkfall one.

     

    I told you to look around, try and research because I'm not going to hand you links.

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    How many more bullshit excuses can the darkfall fanboys keep coming up with for this projects ridiculous shortcomings?

    Even when you list commen sense things , they always manage to come up with excuses as to why it's this way or that way.

    I got some news for you. When you always have to come up with excuses for something it usually means something.

    You never see anyone questioning games like Warhammer or Age of Conan or any of the other countless mmorpg's being made. Theres a reason for that.

    theres also reasons why every other person on the net thinks this game is vaporware. That stigma just didn't pop up out of nowhere. Aventurine razorwax or whoever the hell is making the game is the #1 reason for it.

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by ttitan


    How many more bullshit excuses can the darkfall fanboys keep coming up with for this projects ridiculous shortcomings?
    Even when you list commen sense things , they always manage to come up with excuses as to why it's this way or that way.
    I got some news for you. When you always have to come up with excuses for something it usually means something.
    You never see anyone questioning games like Warhammer or Age of Conan or any of the other countless mmorpg's being made. Theres a reason for that.
    theres also reasons why every other person on the net thinks this game si vaporware. That stigma just didn't pop up out of nowhere.

    Well who freaking cares if it's vaporware or not? You don't need to sit here and start a fight with fanboys to make yourself feel better about something? I think you like the game but you need some sort of huge proof that it's really being worked on. If you just read the forums you will find records of some bank in greece loaning Aventurine 20 mil.

     

    Do you remember how much info Vanguard leaked out and all the videos and crap? Then it came out and it sucked, right? You ever think maybe the Darkfall develpors don't want the same thing to happen with their game?

     

    What is the reason for you to keep posting in this topic? Is it to raise your forum post or something? If the game doesn't come out, it doesn't come out.

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    The point is that there is no real proof anywhere they got a 20 mill loan.

    The only way I would ever believe they got a loan like that is reading an official press release on a notable site.

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    It isn't?! Can you give me some proof of that please? Travel into the year 2009 and lemme know if it's out or not, thanks.

  • ttitanttitan Member Posts: 25

    lol exactly 2009

    but you forgot to add the "+"

  • AragoniAragoni Member UncommonPosts: 384
    Originally posted by ttitan


    The point is that there is no real proof anywhere they got a 20 mill loan.
    The only way I would ever believe they got a loan like that is reading an official press release on a notable site.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aventurine_SA



    See? It took me 5minutes exactly to find a source (Wiki gives one)   You're taking the game waaaay to seriously, if you believe it's vaporware then just move on and go to AoC/WAR/TR and let us, the believers, be alone



    Edit: btw, if you seriously believed that Aventurine S.A. was created 2005 you shouldn't even be allowed to whisper about this topic... GTFO loser :)

  • TaramTaram Member CommonPosts: 1,700

    Originally posted by ttitan


    It's the same if they were founded in 2003 even.   2 years more makes no difference.  No one is going to give a company that is barely a few years old 20 million dollars.

    BS

    You need to go take an economics class before making silly statements like this.  People get GRANTS for more than that.... let alone companies. 

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