No to everything except I have purchased gold on occasion. Not much, just a couple hundred gold, just so I could purchase a mount or 2. The way I figured it, I'd rather use my credit card to purchase the gold then to spend several hours farming the gold when I could instead be playing. Consider it cheating if you will, I look at it as effective use of my play time.
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
As far as I can recall, no, I haven't. Nor would I unless it was going on in such endemic proportions that it became one of those "overlooked" glitches.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
This one is a little tricky. No, I've never used a bot or 3rd party program, and i hate people that do because they absolutely ruin the game. The one exception to this is back in classic ultima online where I used a macro program for things like mining and other menial and tedious skills. This however, was not against the EULA at the time and was common practice for the game.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
I just paid money to buy the game, why would I pay someone to play it for me too? I oppose the entire RMT business going on in MMOs. It perpetuates bots and various other behaviors that have been ruining these games ranging from slight annoyances to completely turning the game upside down.
No to the questions but I have bought Gold to buy items that I would not normally get to own due to my personal choice to play solo most of the time. I enjoy the social guild aspect of these games but i am not a huge raid / organised instance type player.
Never.. Honestly... my friends often laugh at me, I am honest int he extreme. I very very seldom break any rules at all, no matter how small or innocent they are. Just me... Games I play for fun, and the fun part is the challenge. That perfect headshot in CS:S, some great levelling time in a good RPG, I dont mind dying much, if I have tried hard to survive. I kill myself quite a lot just because I want to try things, silly things, stupid things, just to see what happens, and laugh when I fail. For me... its the honest attempt that is the fun thing... Cheating and exploiting.. then I woudl be bored of a game within weeks, there would be no challenge left, just a walkthrough...
Hm, when I said that.. I used some walkthrough tips in Vampire: Bloodlines. Whee, I have cheated!! Me roxxs!
Lets be honest, not many of us here are honest to the core.
Those of use who are, i commend you.
Lets get honest and find some things about about what you have done or would do.
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage? Yes
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught. Yes i have but I don't plan to ever again (wasn't fun) Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money? No I have not and I would never use a leveling service even if it were free, although I did by game currency one time This thread reminds me that I'm a terrible person lol
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Yes. When SWG's vehicle repair system could be avoided by leaving your vehicle out when you boarded a shuttle and it would return to your datapad fully repaired, I did it all the time, because if the devs were lazy enough to allow somthing like this to persist for months, and there was a possiblity that if you paid for repair, it would undo itself and not refund your money, I was going to exploit like mad until the devs got off their lazy asses and fixed the bug.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught
No. The closest I ever got to doing this was spin groups against Pikets on Dantooine in SWG, and I was at the keyboard all the time.
I wouldn't consider using one because the whole point of the game is to play it!
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
No, and once again, the entire point of the whole exercise is to play the game, not to get to the end game as fast as you can. There's a world to explore, there are skills to be learned (XP does not equal actual experience playing, you know) and there are people to have fun with. Why short circuit any of that?
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
I strive to break games I play in every available fashion, I find exploits and abuse them to no end, I let close friends know but do not release the knowledge to the player base. I have found some of the largest economy breaking bugs in GW, RYL, and RO. I have used combat related bugs in a number of FPS and MMO games. I consistently abuse AI pathing, terrain issues and unbalanced skill combinations.
I have on occasion hacked MMO's but only due to curiosity, I don't really care about "end game" and becoming "leet" as the games are generally not very fun in the first place. I love gaming, but when it isn't fun, my second love of game exploiting comes into play. I feel no remorse, I hold game developers fully responsible for the world they create and expect them to do their jobs properly.
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Define bug/exploit, seriously CCP defined most of their bugs as undocumented mechanics.
But seriously, that is hard to say. For example, IN SS/MW4 every Mech had one spot that if you hit it you had a one shot kill. Now, while this was a flaw in the model hit box you still had to be a good enough gunner to actually hit it, so is it exploiting a glitch if it requires actual skill to use it? In EVE the NPC's would not attack your POD so we used to Safe spot our ships and use the pods to explore and map out the roid belts. Now is that exploiting or using the RVR (you could loose your ship to a player because it was abandoned) to find ninga ore sites. How about pulling and back peddeling while using in game obsticles to kill a monster (dumb AI just follows you), example in WOW if you find a waggon, you can pull a monster and just run around the waggon while range hitting it. It will continue to chase you around the waggon till it'sdead.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
No, as posted above why buy a game and let some one else play it. All though I have lvled my brothers Avatars on some games. My Bro is Technically blind (tunnel vision) so I often simply babysit him in games but some times he needs to be a bigger lvl so in these cases I will take over his Avatar and get him high enough to be eligible to get a quest, wear or use items or simply survive an area.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
No I Never use a service but I do run gildies through areas to help lvl them. Also i would never buy gold/items as to me thats a waste of money, well ok that was never until SOTNW I went with the $19 package but that was to get the UPC and 2 free months play more than the 10k Viz.
I have used an exploit in Rappelz, where you could simply use a shortcut key combo to exit the game instantly, and i would use this if i was about to die in PVE or PVP.
On a side note, i'm loving the old school stories from everquest, Ultima Online etc... regarding the things you could do back then in the game, very interesting!
2 never used a bot or 3rd party program (unless bots on wc3 count, which i only use to chat, so doesn't really do anything) even if i had a guarantee, it'd bee too much work anyways
3 not really, if i need to use something to get to a max level, the games not worth it.
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage? Yes on games I was disillusioned with. Games that actually gave me enjoyment no.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught. No. If it was a game I enjoyed there would be no temptation to use 3rd party programs. Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money? No to the leveling service. Yes to buying gold just once to help a guild I was in get started. I have sold gold to brokers before during the dot com burst when finding an IT job was next to impossible. I knew a person that made a lucrative living farming gold and he helped get me started. I did it for about 6 months. It is actually a lot more work then people think.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Yep i've exploited a lot of bugs to get ahead. Did I do this for an unfair advantage? No. This is how you get dev attention. I've reported MANY bugs for them to go un-noticed for months. If I expoit the bug and spread word of how to exploit it. It'll be fixed by next patch. I see this as doing a good service if anything.
Yes I've used a bot program. I did it in WoW. This was because I had school and work. My friends/guild constantly out leveled me. So I botted to catch up while I was at School & Work. Would I do it again if I could? Yes. Why? Because it allows me to spend minimal time doing the boring crap of the game. Will I go back and do all the quests regardless of my level? Yes. They are fun to do, but level gaps make grinding sessions, which I refuse to do. I also refuse to play into developers marketing scam to get you to play as long as frikin possible. I'll bot to avoid their scam so I can enjoy the game to my liking. If I get bored. Then i'll get bored 1 way or another, but grinding will make me bored sooner.
I've never used a leveling service, but have seriously considered it lately. The grind these days in games is just rediculous. For them to expect me to waste my dang time killing 1 frikin mob over and over or doing the same stinking quests for hours is outragious. No thanks.
I've bought money and will do it again if I need to.
Seeing how none of this matters anymore (I quit MMOs for now) I don't mind sharing
[ Played ] 2Moons, Anarchy Online, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, Everquest, Everquest II, Guild Wars, HellGate: London, Lord of the Rings Online, Rappelz, RF Online, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, World of Warcraft, Last Chaos
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
I don't think I ever used one.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
Other than Diablo 2 map hacks, no.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
I bought isk once in Eve so I didn't have to play it even more lol. It was more of just a trying it out sort of thing, I had a 10$ gift debit card sitting around.
And about considering it, I should sell my warden on the station exchange server, I still don't know why I played on that server because I never bought, sold, or planned on doing any of that.
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Kinda to the first one i guess, idk if it counts but i bought an auto-fire controller for EQOA for my Alchemist to make potions while i slept. just took forever back then they made like 1 at a time and i would burn through around 500+ in a single night grind.only got it after turning down groups more than a few times because i didn't have enough potions made to play..lol they since fixed it so no real need to, they make 3 at a time per cast now and with CMs could get it up to 6 potions per cast. I can keep pretty full now, make a bunch and when i got out and kill i can make them as i'm throwing them at mobs. throwing is classified as like a melee or bow attack so can cast and throw at the same time.
and on Vanguard if your by these towers it gives a small buff to dmg but if you're there too long it debuffs your dmg, but for some reason the debuff was actually doubling my dmg on my rogue so i would just stick there and grind.it was a lowbie place to single digits so didn't last long. altho i did report it they said it was a known issue they was working on.
no programs and never bought gold from farmers or anyone
It was due to bugs and falling through worlds left wow the first time..... Had a play session first month or so was in bb area near pirates fighting by a hill fell off cliff landed in dustwood in cementary at a time a elete was wondering around insta death
Sent to wrong graveyard (high level area) would try to leave grave yard area high level mobs around. Hearth stone did not work.
Submitted wrong graveyard transporting bug multi times. When stuck in high end submited bug report for wrong graveyard then for hearth stone not working finnaly got cs to assist transport to bb. Oh chuclked in seeing patch notes wrong grave yard transport fixed.....
No to the first 2 but I did purchase gold once, that was for WOW to get a mount. There was just no way I had the time to get the money together "in game". It would have taken me months and I just didn't have the time to do it, if the cost of mounts was reasonable I would have felt better earning the money. So I blame the game!
I will have to say no to 2 and 3, because I care so little about level. If there was one game I would worry about it, it would be Ryzom, and out of all the levels I can have, my highest is only 126. (If you don't know, that's nothing haha..)
On number 1 though, I think I have probably continued to use a "bugged" item, like the example of a shield that was giving me protection or something when we thought it wasn't supposed to, but that's about it.
I think it's actually really sad to use bots or programs like that. And I mean that...sad. What in someones life makes them SO desperate for a "higher level" that they go through all the trouble of obtaining such a program? Who cares that much? Don't those people care about socializing in game? About exploring? Why is that final level so important? Don't they know foreplay is half the fun? haha ok don't answer that one.
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Disgusting how almost half these posts are people admitting to buying gold........ Here i've always wondered why i get 500 tells a day spamming in every game,
Absolute scum to say the least.
1. Yes, i duped the stat potions in Diablo 1
2. does a d/l'd UI count? if not then no, and only used a custom UI for WoW
3. No, absolutely crazy, i'd pay to play a game then pay others to play for me in any way......... why would i be playing?
I think it's actually really sad to use bots or programs like that. And I mean that...sad. What in someones life makes them SO desperate for a "higher level" that they go through all the trouble of obtaining such a program? Who cares that much? Don't those people care about socializing in game? About exploring? Why is that final level so important? Don't they know foreplay is half the fun? haha ok don't answer that one. Beau
Its math based gameplay so naturally people without persective of the intention of the game will focus on it. It was always around, people did in UO, EQ and AC as far back as the begining of each game. The same with RTM. Farmers are nothing new either, they are just bolder now they exist in such numbers now no one can really control them.
The entire problem is that MMO went away from designing worlds like Ryzom to making games that have specific endgames. In Ryzom or any other sandbox, you don't necessarily need to be level cap to enjoy the game, in fact the most players never even worry about it unless its tied to something specific.
Once you resrict a portion of gameplay to a certain group of players (level cap) then it becomes exclusive and the goal of the game. No matter what your playstyle, people feel left out if they don't reach that cap.
My personal feeling is, if you feel you gotta bot to get where you want in a "game", its really isn't worth playing and paying for now is it? People really need to examine the reasons they play if it comes down to that. I mean heck, you can buy power leveling for Guild Wars, now WTF needs power leveling in GW??? Its just sad.
I've never been lucky enough to get a bugged item or exploit but I would be tempted and would probably cave in and use it.
I never botted nor ever really had the desire. I would quit a game if it gets that tedious and I have. Once its no fun, letting your automated toon run around for you is not going to solve anything.
Lets be honest, not many of us here are honest to the core.
Those of use who are, i commend you.
Lets get honest and find some things about about what you have done or would do.
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught. Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
Yes, I've found and exploited bugs, glitches, and exploits to gain poise (barrels of oil in Entropia back in the day could be picked up by ghosts).
Yes, I used bots in games before. Mostly clickers and keypress bots for harvesting and/or crafting.
I've never used a leveling service, but I've purchased gold plenty of times to get myself going in games... I guess that counts?
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title. "When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
1. Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
2. Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught. 3. Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
1. Generally no. However, the term 'bug' is hard to define. Finding the optimal way to do something within the mechanics of a game is actually the ONLY thing I do. If a dev turns around later and calls that a 'bug', then I guess they can do that, but I don't view what I did as a bad activity. And your phrase 'detriment to others' is hard to define as well. In a pvp competitive context, what does that mean? In such cases, maybe we are supposed to cause 'detriment to others'... who knows.
2. never. and never will.
3. absolutely never. I usually reach the max level and cancel my account. Most MMO 'end games' are about as much fun as watching grass grow. I only enjoy pvp during the leveling process, because it adds an unknown, unpredictable element to the gameplay. This is more fun than killing dumb/predictable mobs. And also concerning mmo end-game pvp, why waste leveling time and monthly expense just for that? The ultimate in competitve pvp, (balanced, fun, and without monthly fees), is obtainable immediately within any of the existing FPS games out there.... like CSS, UT, BF, AA, etc. (imo) So play an mmo, get immersed, make friends and enemies, get max level, then quit.... play another game....
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
There was a "bug" or strategy in Guild Wars back when that if you made a very specific build you could solo a fair extent of an end game instance by yourself and make the best gold in the game. I did that, until it was nerfed.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
Ive used a 3rd party program, but its completely legal under WoW.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
Never would, mostly because I don't see the point in it fundamentally..I like leveling. Secondly, its pretty well known that a lot of these places make a lot of their gold by ripping off peoples accounts. Theres nothing stopping them to take it.
Bah, I disappointed myself with this one, Diablo 1 be damned:
* Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Yes, I have duped stuff in Diablo 1, it was like a mini-game in itself and we even had bets running on it depending on lag.
* Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Yes (darn!!!). Again in Diablo 1, after getting my butt handed to me by cheat-running God-moded invisible players on every session, I too started running a cheat program in the background which I used to turn on PK Immunity when a ghost player was around.
* Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
No. I don't use it, I won't use it even if I get caught - and what's there to be afraid of getting caught, anyway? As well I can't take over a character from a friend, paid or not paid. I just don't feel like it's my character when someone else leveled it up or boosted it. Not to mention, I don't think I can make peace with the idea of paying someone to play a game for me, even if it makes sense in terms of money/hour earned IRL.
I have to say I have done none of these since Diablo 1... Hey I did not even matchstick keys down in UO!
Though I might fool around with a glitch if it's fun (maybe like flying somewhere I'm not supposed to - hey, I'm an explorer, you can't confine me! )
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No to everything except I have purchased gold on occasion. Not much, just a couple hundred gold, just so I could purchase a mount or 2. The way I figured it, I'd rather use my credit card to purchase the gold then to spend several hours farming the gold when I could instead be playing. Consider it cheating if you will, I look at it as effective use of my play time.
WoW Glider FTW?
1. Ok, I used 1 seeker droid from a bugged stack in SWG. Otherwise, no I don't/won't use exploits.
2. Nien, I've never used a 3rd Party program to play.
3. Ditto, I've never bought Gold.
Whether the above items are illegal in a game is somewhat immaterial, I personally find that they cheapen the experience.
Ico
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Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
As far as I can recall, no, I haven't. Nor would I unless it was going on in such endemic proportions that it became one of those "overlooked" glitches.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
This one is a little tricky. No, I've never used a bot or 3rd party program, and i hate people that do because they absolutely ruin the game. The one exception to this is back in classic ultima online where I used a macro program for things like mining and other menial and tedious skills. This however, was not against the EULA at the time and was common practice for the game.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
I just paid money to buy the game, why would I pay someone to play it for me too? I oppose the entire RMT business going on in MMOs. It perpetuates bots and various other behaviors that have been ruining these games ranging from slight annoyances to completely turning the game upside down.
Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts.
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No to the questions but I have bought Gold to buy items that I would not normally get to own due to my personal choice to play solo most of the time. I enjoy the social guild aspect of these games but i am not a huge raid / organised instance type player.
To err is human....to play is divine
Never.. Honestly... my friends often laugh at me, I am honest int he extreme. I very very seldom break any rules at all, no matter how small or innocent they are. Just me... Games I play for fun, and the fun part is the challenge. That perfect headshot in CS:S, some great levelling time in a good RPG, I dont mind dying much, if I have tried hard to survive. I kill myself quite a lot just because I want to try things, silly things, stupid things, just to see what happens, and laugh when I fail. For me... its the honest attempt that is the fun thing... Cheating and exploiting.. then I woudl be bored of a game within weeks, there would be no challenge left, just a walkthrough...
Hm, when I said that.. I used some walkthrough tips in Vampire: Bloodlines. Whee, I have cheated!! Me roxxs!
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Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Yes. When SWG's vehicle repair system could be avoided by leaving your vehicle out when you boarded a shuttle and it would return to your datapad fully repaired, I did it all the time, because if the devs were lazy enough to allow somthing like this to persist for months, and there was a possiblity that if you paid for repair, it would undo itself and not refund your money, I was going to exploit like mad until the devs got off their lazy asses and fixed the bug.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught
No. The closest I ever got to doing this was spin groups against Pikets on Dantooine in SWG, and I was at the keyboard all the time.
I wouldn't consider using one because the whole point of the game is to play it!
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
No, and once again, the entire point of the whole exercise is to play the game, not to get to the end game as fast as you can. There's a world to explore, there are skills to be learned (XP does not equal actual experience playing, you know) and there are people to have fun with. Why short circuit any of that?
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
I strive to break games I play in every available fashion, I find exploits and abuse them to no end, I let close friends know but do not release the knowledge to the player base. I have found some of the largest economy breaking bugs in GW, RYL, and RO. I have used combat related bugs in a number of FPS and MMO games. I consistently abuse AI pathing, terrain issues and unbalanced skill combinations.
I have on occasion hacked MMO's but only due to curiosity, I don't really care about "end game" and becoming "leet" as the games are generally not very fun in the first place. I love gaming, but when it isn't fun, my second love of game exploiting comes into play. I feel no remorse, I hold game developers fully responsible for the world they create and expect them to do their jobs properly.
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Thanks for the response people.
I appreciate the honesty in everyones posts.
I have used an exploit in Rappelz, where you could simply use a shortcut key combo to exit the game instantly, and i would use this if i was about to die in PVE or PVP.
On a side note, i'm loving the old school stories from everquest, Ultima Online etc... regarding the things you could do back then in the game, very interesting!
Keep em coming.
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MMORPG's I've Played: World of Warcraft: 10/10 - Rappelz: 7/10 - Ragnarok Online: 8/10 - DnD Online: 2/10 - Runescape: 6/10 - LotR Online: 5/10 - Anarchy Online: 7/10 - CoV: 8/10 - Rohan Online: 8/10 - Guild Wars: 7/10 - Flyff: 8/10 - Warhammer Online: 8/10
My HARDCORE Story
1 i've never exploited
2 never used a bot or 3rd party program (unless bots on wc3 count, which i only use to chat, so doesn't really do anything) even if i had a guarantee, it'd bee too much work anyways
3 not really, if i need to use something to get to a max level, the games not worth it.
?played: Nearly everything.
?waiting: *Darkfall*, Hero''s Journey
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Yep i've exploited a lot of bugs to get ahead. Did I do this for an unfair advantage? No. This is how you get dev attention. I've reported MANY bugs for them to go un-noticed for months. If I expoit the bug and spread word of how to exploit it. It'll be fixed by next patch. I see this as doing a good service if anything.
Yes I've used a bot program. I did it in WoW. This was because I had school and work. My friends/guild constantly out leveled me. So I botted to catch up while I was at School & Work. Would I do it again if I could? Yes. Why? Because it allows me to spend minimal time doing the boring crap of the game. Will I go back and do all the quests regardless of my level? Yes. They are fun to do, but level gaps make grinding sessions, which I refuse to do. I also refuse to play into developers marketing scam to get you to play as long as frikin possible. I'll bot to avoid their scam so I can enjoy the game to my liking. If I get bored. Then i'll get bored 1 way or another, but grinding will make me bored sooner.
I've never used a leveling service, but have seriously considered it lately. The grind these days in games is just rediculous. For them to expect me to waste my dang time killing 1 frikin mob over and over or doing the same stinking quests for hours is outragious. No thanks.
I've bought money and will do it again if I need to.
Seeing how none of this matters anymore (I quit MMOs for now) I don't mind sharing
[ Played ] 2Moons, Anarchy Online, City of Heroes, City of Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, Everquest, Everquest II, Guild Wars, HellGate: London, Lord of the Rings Online, Rappelz, RF Online, Shadowbane, Star Wars Galaxies, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, World of Warcraft, Last Chaos
[ Playing ] Everquest II
[ Waiting ] Aion, Age of Conan
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
I don't think I ever used one.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
Other than Diablo 2 map hacks, no.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
I bought isk once in Eve so I didn't have to play it even more lol. It was more of just a trying it out sort of thing, I had a 10$ gift debit card sitting around.
And about considering it, I should sell my warden on the station exchange server, I still don't know why I played on that server because I never bought, sold, or planned on doing any of that.
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Kinda to the first one i guess, idk if it counts but i bought an auto-fire controller for EQOA for my Alchemist to make potions while i slept. just took forever back then they made like 1 at a time and i would burn through around 500+ in a single night grind.only got it after turning down groups more than a few times because i didn't have enough potions made to play..lol they since fixed it so no real need to, they make 3 at a time per cast now and with CMs could get it up to 6 potions per cast. I can keep pretty full now, make a bunch and when i got out and kill i can make them as i'm throwing them at mobs. throwing is classified as like a melee or bow attack so can cast and throw at the same time.
and on Vanguard if your by these towers it gives a small buff to dmg but if you're there too long it debuffs your dmg, but for some reason the debuff was actually doubling my dmg on my rogue so i would just stick there and grind.it was a lowbie place to single digits so didn't last long. altho i did report it they said it was a known issue they was working on.
no programs and never bought gold from farmers or anyone
It was due to bugs and falling through worlds left wow the first time..... Had a play session first month or so was in bb area near pirates fighting by a hill fell off cliff landed in dustwood in cementary at a time a elete was wondering around insta death
Sent to wrong graveyard (high level area) would try to leave grave yard area high level mobs around. Hearth stone did not work.
Submitted wrong graveyard transporting bug multi times. When stuck in high end submited bug report for wrong graveyard then for hearth stone not working finnaly got cs to assist transport to bb. Oh chuclked in seeing patch notes wrong grave yard transport fixed.....
Not......
no to leveling service, 3rd party service or bot
No to the first 2 but I did purchase gold once, that was for WOW to get a mount. There was just no way I had the time to get the money together "in game". It would have taken me months and I just didn't have the time to do it, if the cost of mounts was reasonable I would have felt better earning the money. So I blame the game!
Good questions OP!
I will have to say no to 2 and 3, because I care so little about level. If there was one game I would worry about it, it would be Ryzom, and out of all the levels I can have, my highest is only 126. (If you don't know, that's nothing haha..)
On number 1 though, I think I have probably continued to use a "bugged" item, like the example of a shield that was giving me protection or something when we thought it wasn't supposed to, but that's about it.
I think it's actually really sad to use bots or programs like that. And I mean that...sad. What in someones life makes them SO desperate for a "higher level" that they go through all the trouble of obtaining such a program? Who cares that much? Don't those people care about socializing in game? About exploring? Why is that final level so important? Don't they know foreplay is half the fun? haha ok don't answer that one.
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Disgusting how almost half these posts are people admitting to buying gold........ Here i've always wondered why i get 500 tells a day spamming in every game,
Absolute scum to say the least.
1. Yes, i duped the stat potions in Diablo 1
2. does a d/l'd UI count? if not then no, and only used a custom UI for WoW
3. No, absolutely crazy, i'd pay to play a game then pay others to play for me in any way......... why would i be playing?
Its math based gameplay so naturally people without persective of the intention of the game will focus on it. It was always around, people did in UO, EQ and AC as far back as the begining of each game. The same with RTM. Farmers are nothing new either, they are just bolder now they exist in such numbers now no one can really control them.
The entire problem is that MMO went away from designing worlds like Ryzom to making games that have specific endgames. In Ryzom or any other sandbox, you don't necessarily need to be level cap to enjoy the game, in fact the most players never even worry about it unless its tied to something specific.
Once you resrict a portion of gameplay to a certain group of players (level cap) then it becomes exclusive and the goal of the game. No matter what your playstyle, people feel left out if they don't reach that cap.
My personal feeling is, if you feel you gotta bot to get where you want in a "game", its really isn't worth playing and paying for now is it? People really need to examine the reasons they play if it comes down to that. I mean heck, you can buy power leveling for Guild Wars, now WTF needs power leveling in GW??? Its just sad.
I've never been lucky enough to get a bugged item or exploit but I would be tempted and would probably cave in and use it.
I never botted nor ever really had the desire. I would quit a game if it gets that tedious and I have. Once its no fun, letting your automated toon run around for you is not going to solve anything.
Yes, I used bots in games before. Mostly clickers and keypress bots for harvesting and/or crafting.
I've never used a leveling service, but I've purchased gold plenty of times to get myself going in games... I guess that counts?
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2. never. and never will.
3. absolutely never. I usually reach the max level and cancel my account. Most MMO 'end games' are about as much fun as watching grass grow. I only enjoy pvp during the leveling process, because it adds an unknown, unpredictable element to the gameplay. This is more fun than killing dumb/predictable mobs. And also concerning mmo end-game pvp, why waste leveling time and monthly expense just for that? The ultimate in competitve pvp, (balanced, fun, and without monthly fees), is obtainable immediately within any of the existing FPS games out there.... like CSS, UT, BF, AA, etc. (imo) So play an mmo, get immersed, make friends and enemies, get max level, then quit.... play another game....
Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
There was a "bug" or strategy in Guild Wars back when that if you made a very specific build you could solo a fair extent of an end game instance by yourself and make the best gold in the game. I did that, until it was nerfed.
Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
Ive used a 3rd party program, but its completely legal under WoW.
Have you ever or would you ever consider using a leveling service to get your character to max - get lots of hard to attain items and/or money?
Never would, mostly because I don't see the point in it fundamentally..I like leveling. Secondly, its pretty well known that a lot of these places make a lot of their gold by ripping off peoples accounts. Theres nothing stopping them to take it.
Bah, I disappointed myself with this one, Diablo 1 be damned:
* Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Yes, I have duped stuff in Diablo 1, it was like a mini-game in itself and we even had bets running on it depending on lag.
* Have you ever exploited a bug or game glitch you knew about to the detriment of other players OR to your unfair advantage?
Yes (darn!!!). Again in Diablo 1, after getting my butt handed to me by cheat-running God-moded invisible players on every session, I too started running a cheat program in the background which I used to turn on PK Immunity when a ghost player was around.
* Have you ever used a bot or 3rd party program to level faster or play at longer lengths that otherwise able, and if not, would you ever consider it if it came with a guarantee you would not get caught.
No. I don't use it, I won't use it even if I get caught - and what's there to be afraid of getting caught, anyway? As well I can't take over a character from a friend, paid or not paid. I just don't feel like it's my character when someone else leveled it up or boosted it. Not to mention, I don't think I can make peace with the idea of paying someone to play a game for me, even if it makes sense in terms of money/hour earned IRL.
I have to say I have done none of these since Diablo 1... Hey I did not even matchstick keys down in UO!
Though I might fool around with a glitch if it's fun (maybe like flying somewhere I'm not supposed to - hey, I'm an explorer, you can't confine me!
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