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So dont know which clone to choose? WoW, EQ2 or LOTRO? Read my topic, be warned this is my opinion,
Melendu
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I know when it really comes down to it its preference only but between EQ2, WoW and LOTRO isnt WoW considered the better? Not because of its high population but lets break it down
LOTRO has 7 classes and 4 races, not very much of a choice your stuck with 4 very not original races, a matter of fact 4 races that i would never play in any other mmorpg with more choices. Take WoW and EQ2 for example they both have a wide variety of choices and what not. Its nice LOTRO has stuck to the lore but in the mean time you can stillmake up new things along the way and add things to the original story. The class choices are not very original either, i mean i like the lore master idea, not really a mage can wield both staff and sword but the other classes are just blah. Even the rogue class the burgler i found to be a yawn fest. Rogues are ussually my favorite class to play in any MMO, going from EQ to WoW to EQ2 i found them all fun and interesting, and EQs rogue is one of the harder classes to play and i still found it more enjoyable then LOTROs burgler. The areas around LOTRO is very beautiful, graphics are lovely even on a crap machine, it just seems quiet repetitive, lotro just wasnt my cup of tea.
Now to EQ2, EQ2 i found to be a fun game, a variety of class choices, a huge selection of races. I just didnt like the feel of EQ2s animation, combat felt very sticky and slow i dont know how to explain it, it didnt feel like i was playing the character it felt like something else was taking over, it became very annoying. Graphics are good but after awhile unlike WoW and LOTRO the graphics seem very clay like. I guess the game would have been better if more people played, finding groups was pretty hard but i guess it was my play time, i didnt find many people around, and trying to get a group for anything was far and few in between, unlike WoW and LOTRO i had to constantly spam about LFG, the LFG tool in EQ2 didnt seem like it worked too well i dont know. The game was fun, i didnt care to much for the AAs, EQ1s AAs seemed better then what EQ2 had to offer. The PVP unbalance was the worse, and i love PVP and i know EQ2 isnt a true PVP game but on its PVP server i found scouts to be truely overpowered stealth had no penalties, the damage and the power of certain classes like brigs, assassins, and swashys were insane. EQ2 is a good game but i just couldnt get the hang of it, maybe its just me i dunno. EQ2 has housing which was really fun, i loved going back to my house and add new things which is something i wish WoW had.
Now to WoW, i loved how each race had its own starting area, i am a long time WoW player, my favorite starting race was the draenei it really felt epic at the end. I found WoW to be very fun from 1-70 only lacking at end game where you ether PVP or raid, but im guessing the 25 mans, 10 mans and the more and more 5 mans comming out is helping more people get groups. I remember before TBC came out all of it was 40 mans and it was a pain so i guess they are making progress in that area. PVP was balanced for the most part, in groups it felt truely balanced, even solo PVP felt balanced for the most part, only when being a shaman did i feel the unbalance this class really could use some love. Its not the powerhouse it use to be. Also unlike EQ2 and soon LOTRO is the lack of player housing, hoping it would be in WOTLK blizzard has let me down 
though they kept the promise of siege weapons and hero classes im guessing one day housing will be added, just hope its not too late then. People hate the hero class the deathknight, the deathknight is a hero class but it will not be more powerful then the other classes, the paladin is also a hero class but it is no where overpowered. I like how WoW does talents/AAs it truely feels like your playing a whole new class, like a shadow priest and a holy priest are almost two different classes WoW does a good job here. WoWs graphics is another preference, personnally i like it, it has the warcraft feel to it, WoW wouldnt look right with EQ2/LOTRO graphics, WoWs cartoony atmosphere felt right, i also loved WoWs smooth animation, combat was fast and didnt feel slow like EQ2 or LOTRO. One thing i hated about WoW is the multiple rehashes of mob skins, in WOTLK they will not be using as many rehashes as they did for TBC. Though only having 9 classes soon to be 10 to choose from, WoWs classes are fun and feel very unique and diverse no two classes feel the same and all play a major role. The leveling in WoW isnt as fast as every one says it is, though it is fast its not as fast as games like EQ today, with the introduction of potions and what not. Once hitting level 30 it felt like i hit a brick wall. Playing on a PVP server really spiced things up. I loved WoWs quest, i loved WoWs instancing, my favorite instance RFD i can play over and over and over again. Thats another thing about WoW their instances dont get boring i can play them multiple times, Black fathom depths can get to be boring. WoW isnt as bad as people say it is, if you are waiting for WAR and what not i think WoW is the perfect filler unlike the other two, WoW is here to stay it will not die. People say WOTLK will kill WoW but it wont, WOTLK will be a nice introduction to WoW and adding more to the game. So even if WAR or AOC doesnt meet your expectations you can always go to WoW because WoW is no where near the verge of death i seen many players all the way from 1-70 made new alts and recently still see a bunch of people all over unlike EQ2.
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You should really learn how to make paragraphs..it's really easy just hit the enter key
EQ2: never tried it, so I cant comment. Hard for me to get that interested in pve games with long level grinds.
LOTRO: some how I convinced myself that I could have fun with a pve game. I got in at the start of open beta and played for a few months before getting bored. The game is good for what it is. Nice graphics, tons and tons of quests, interesting story. On the other hand, gameplay feels kind of clunky and unresponsive, and running on the quest train gets old after a while. Still, a good game if it fits your style.
WOW: never tried it. I spent a lot of time following it pre-launch, hoping for a good pvp game. But, I got tied up with other things and didnt get to try it out. Of course, I had family/friends that were playing right after launch, so I did get to check it out. Looked like too much of the same old stuff to me. It did look polished and smooth, but I didnt see/hear anything to interest me. About the only interesting thing Ive heard about WOW is that character control is very smooth and responsive. Generic pve quests...no thanks. Raids...h3ll no. Half a$$ed pvp...no thanks.
It's still and impressive amount of text. Adding some paragraphs would help, but it's still pretty much to read.
It's still and impressive amount of text. Adding some paragraphs would help, but it's still pretty much to read.
He meant it would be easier to read if it was in paragraphs. Its hard to read a bunch of text all bunched up.
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Long post, but interesting.
Question: How long ago has it been since you tried each of the three games?
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so much text to read!! lol can u say in few words what do u whant? 
For the people who don't want to read the whole thing, there's the important part of the post. The rest can be ignored.
why are people always calling these 3 games clones? because i cant see mutch similar exept for maby (graphics/ui & combat system) and that dosnt tell the whole story.. they are in the same gengre after all so what to expect!
LOTRO:
- Level Based Skill system (level cap = 50)
- Pure PVE / Roleplayer Game
- Monsterplay PVP instance
- Quest / Task based
- Open world Encounters
- 7 Classes, 4 Races (1 faction - Good)
- semi non-level/level based feat system (mostly based on compleating quests after discoverys)
Wow :
- Level Based skill system (level cap = 70)
- PVE Raid game with PVP options (it is not a pvp game, because you cant loose anything or get anything by killing players)
- PVP side of game is mostly battlegrounds.
- semi Quest/Grind Based (one of the reasons it appeals to asian players, it also have point & click)
- Instance based Encounter system
- 9 Classes, 10 races (2 factions, Horde & Alliance - they are not Good vs Evil.. They are both Good, they just cant live togehter)
- Level-Based Talent tree System
EQ2:
- Level Based with Tier Based skill system (Level cap = 70)
- both PVE & PVP game (PVE servers are PVE only, PVP servers is mostly World PVP focused)
- Arena pvp (this is the only pvp for people on a pve server)
- Quest based/Semi Grind
- Open world Encounters
- 24 classes, 18 races. (2 main factions - good & Evil)
- NON-Level based Achevement system (it has its own xp bar, and it get xp by competing quests, finding locations, and kill named)
if you look at his post he did make paragraphs, a paragraph isn't made every 4th line, a paragraph marks a change in subject or topic so he make his paragraphs in the right place.
anyway I like WoW too as it is the only MMORPG out there that is easy to get into and understand, i don't want a game i have to send 2-3 months to learn how to do stuff as that is just a waste of time and money. Games should be simple and fun to play. That is what Blizzard gets unlike so many other MMORPG makers out there. That is why they have so many fans and players.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Oh look, a WoW advertiser with bad grammar.
I was talking about the OP bro. Sorry if you misunderstood.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
hell no, the eve guy shall burn too!dont you know? this community never misses a chance to hang someone
btw i think the quest from wow are crap compared to lotro quests
regadring combat system its the other way -wow nice lotro lame (lotros combat is just too slow and never challenging)
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LotRO is a great game - it plays much more like NWN or BG than an epic mmo . In fact i would argue that it is in no way an epic MMO. Neverless its fun and entertaining... if not slightly basic. There IS NO real pvp in this game ... you can fight player own/control monsters or duel.
WoW is the current king of MMOs. Its a great game also, its a ton of fun leveling , the core combat system in the game is one of the best EVER. That being said end game consist of runing a few dungeosn over and over and they take quite some time to do. the raid ones kara + take a very long time to do. And after you get equipment etc... Blizzard WILL make equipement that is easy to get and twice as good as yours, thus wasting all the effort you put in to get good equip. PVP in this game is ok it can get repeditive but its not that bad... no where the best but better than many.
EQ2 is an ok game. I feel its core combat system is rather poor. That being said it give a more traditional option of exp quest or grinding. I like the class option in this game better than the previous two.
I don't rate the crafting better in any.
Graphix wise i prefer WoWs (tho i like more real art... seeing as Wow as the least real art i believe WoWs is better, next i acctuly give it to EQ2... You heard me i rather dislike LorTO character models and equipment the landscapes can look great but .... thats a landscape).
Overall what should you do .. try them for one. and Id say go with LotRO or WoW.
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Hi there. I'm not picking on you, but I did want to reply to your post point for point, since you organized it. I've played all of these games, but play none of them now. They each warrant praise for certain things. Each excels at something that another doesn't. For instance:
WoW- Excels in being playable by most computers, best UI out of the 3, plenty of gear options for leveling up, several starting areas to choose from, large population, easy to learn, well orchestrated music, and most options for game-play (world pvp, bg's, solo play, group play, instances, raids, and features that benefit RPers).
EQ2- Excels in the amount of quests available, number of class and race choices, instanced housing, character creation, and crafting.
LoTRO- Excels in unique PvP content, central story based content, graphics and art, unique classes and combat specials, and RPing tools.
That was all just my opinion, but I feel they are fairly accurate.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.
what i love about these kinda threads is the OP's always compare games but one of the games they played all the way to end game and they love it and the other they obviously only played 20 or so lvls. I played WoW to end game 1-70 and im currently playing EQ2 now but only about halfway thru the lvls. so i am not even gonna try to compare the two because i havent seen the whole picture yet, but i can tell you that I am enjoying EQ2 alot and i do not agree with the OP's assessment of EQ2 at all. WoW was fun and im not gonna bash it but atm im having more fun and i get much more excited about the things i do in EQ2 then i ever did in WoW.
Yeah EQ2 whasnt build for pvp in the beginning & is mainly a pve raid game, (pvp came in 2nd expantion pack).. but when you talk about balance, than i have to say you are wrong too. because unlike wow & Lotro, EQ2 have separated PVP from PVE.. so the spells/combat abilities got different effects on mobs and players. twinking is total different story, butt i dont see the problem at all, everyone can twink up, its easy but timeconsuming.
EQ2 does have a system build around it, a honnor system mutch like wow (before TBC) and Lotro MPVP got.. where you can buy rewords when you get the rank.. but unlike wow and lotro, eq2 have death penalty, corpse loot & that kind of stuff.. Lotro MPVP feels exactly like playing AV in WoW imo, so i cant really see how that can be a different game (atleast not if you are playing a Freep) its a pure instance to me! and thats why i feel EQ2 is more a pvp game then the 2 outhers (but sorry! i should have typed that it whas my opinion, and what i wrote here is aswell)
LOl i really dont care if you think im a WOW fan or not, personnally im looking to play warhammer, though i know if it doesnt meet my expectations there is always WoW waiting for me.
That goes to show SOE failed EQ2 more. EQ1 had great PVP well to me i thought it was fun, any game can be a PVP game, its only when the developers try to make their game more then one thing. WoW isnt considered a PVP game but the PVP in WOW can be very fun.
Very Nice. I have to agree to a certain extent. WoW is a fun game. I love the controls, and the animation, but I feel the gameplay lacks. All there really is to do is quest, get some items, bring them back to the quest giver, kill stuff, etc. But, WoW is still the best of EQII, LOTRO, I think.