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Better graphics <> better game

clicksclicks Member Posts: 10

Better graphics <> better game

Please take this into account before you make a new game, and you will probably have enough time to worry about better gameplay.

Because having 2GB RAM, 7900Nvidia Card and 250GM 7.2rpm is just not enough to play some of the new MMORPSs

, just an opinion directed to the developers.

 

 

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  • IchmenIchmen Member UncommonPosts: 1,228

    better graphics = better screenshots and videos of lag.

    better graphics means as much as a cup of coffee from starbucks without water in it.

    all fancy on the surfice but crappy and useless underneath.

    the most you need in graphics is basic shadows so you can spot ambushes.

    you need enough light effects so you can catch battles around a corner

    you need enough graphical demand so that when you kill a guy and do mean things to his corpse while hes respawning  you can almost see his face start to cry.

    what you dont need.

    shadows that make it look like a party is happening around you all invisable like.

    pointless weather/background weather effects. so its raining or so its snowing. snow wont hurt you. the guy aiming a weapon at you while your lagging will.

    far too many games are trying to follow wow and make THE game... so they boost graphics like a fat man eats out an all you can eat buffet.

    AND IT DOESNT WORK!.

    im sooo sick of NA based games that get all fancy graphically but SUCK. i find i play more and more asian mmos as they dont have the system demands or high end graphics but acual game play.... its time NA/Euro games start to figure out fancy graphics only matter to noobs and new players...

  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx Member UncommonPosts: 2,402

    Originally posted by Ichmen


    better graphics = better screenshots and videos of lag.
    better graphics means as much as a cup of coffee from starbucks without water in it.
    all fancy on the surfice but crappy and useless underneath.
    the most you need in graphics is basic shadows so you can spot ambushes.
    you need enough light effects so you can catch battles around a corner
    you need enough graphical demand so that when you kill a guy and do mean things to his corpse while hes respawning  you can almost see his face start to cry.
    what you dont need.
    shadows that make it look like a party is happening around you all invisable like.
    pointless weather/background weather effects. so its raining or so its snowing. snow wont hurt you. the guy aiming a weapon at you while your lagging will.
    far too many games are trying to follow wow and make THE game... so they boost graphics like a fat man eats out an all you can eat buffet.
    AND IT DOESNT WORK!.
    im sooo sick of NA based games that get all fancy graphically but SUCK. i find i play more and more asian mmos as they dont have the system demands or high end graphics but acual game play.... its time NA/Euro games start to figure out fancy graphics only matter to noobs and new players...

    I dont get what your saying, are you saying good graphics are bad.. because you made a reference to games following wow making good graphics but the game sucks.. correct me if im wrong.

     

    But if im not, then, you just lumped mmos in with wow, a game that made no effort to bring next gen graphics into the genre, as well as a game that is currently the best in teh genre (regardless of your personal opinion).

    Better graphics is teh route all mmos should be taking, but that doesnt mean better graphics makes a better game, thats up to teh devs, as it stands now, fury isnt an mmo, and has no place on this website, its basicalyl Rune, it has good graphics yeah, but the gameplay is terrible.

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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Originally posted by clicks


    Better graphics <> better game
    Please take this into account before you make a new game, and you will probably have enough time to worry about better gameplay.
    Because having 2GB RAM, 7900Nvidia Card and 250GM 7.2rpm is just not enough to play some of the new MMORPSs
    , just an opinion directed to the developers.
     
     

    Let them look at LOTRO graphic ... perhaps than they will understand



  • TwohededboyTwohededboy Member Posts: 200

    The thing about graphics is they should be second in importance to game play. If you have a game that offers what a particular player wants then graphics aren't that important. But if the graphics are so bad or the engine is so clunky the game, no matter how good it is can be unplayable. I agree that one of the biggest contributors to WoWs success was the low end reqiurements for the engine they used. I think some companies are now pushing higher end graphics, thus excluding alot of machines and gamers, because that is their  definition of "next gen" but they are just recycling game play without any original ideas.

  • MMO-ManiacMMO-Maniac Member Posts: 176

    I'd prefer great gameplay with decent graphics.

    A game with amazing graphics but so-so gameplay is like a bus tour, sure looks pretty but it gets boring.

    Good gameplay should always be the main focus of a game.

  • clicksclicks Member Posts: 10

    i remember a couple of months a go when Vanguard came out, i just could not move from the starting point, the lag was horrible.

    Iwasn't going to upgrade to a 3k computer again so i could play the the new game in town, and trust me i know some people that will but its a low percentage.

    So that means the new MMORPG is loosing a lot of players just because of their high end requirements.  I rather see come new content, new proffesions, new spells, etc, i don't want to see the nose hair on another guy toon.

     

     

     

     

     

  • IchmenIchmen Member UncommonPosts: 1,228

    Originally posted by DeserttFoxx


     
    Originally posted by Ichmen


    better graphics = better screenshots and videos of lag.
    better graphics means as much as a cup of coffee from starbucks without water in it.
    all fancy on the surfice but crappy and useless underneath.
    the most you need in graphics is basic shadows so you can spot ambushes.
    you need enough light effects so you can catch battles around a corner
    you need enough graphical demand so that when you kill a guy and do mean things to his corpse while hes respawning  you can almost see his face start to cry.
    what you dont need.
    shadows that make it look like a party is happening around you all invisable like.
    pointless weather/background weather effects. so its raining or so its snowing. snow wont hurt you. the guy aiming a weapon at you while your lagging will.
    far too many games are trying to follow wow and make THE game... so they boost graphics like a fat man eats out an all you can eat buffet.
    AND IT DOESNT WORK!.
    im sooo sick of NA based games that get all fancy graphically but SUCK. i find i play more and more asian mmos as they dont have the system demands or high end graphics but acual game play.... its time NA/Euro games start to figure out fancy graphics only matter to noobs and new players...

     

    I dont get what your saying, are you saying good graphics are bad.. because you made a reference to games following wow making good graphics but the game sucks.. correct me if im wrong.

     

    But if im not, then, you just lumped mmos in with wow, a game that made no effort to bring next gen graphics into the genre, as well as a game that is currently the best in teh genre (regardless of your personal opinion).

    Better graphics is teh route all mmos should be taking, but that doesnt mean better graphics makes a better game, thats up to teh devs, as it stands now, fury isnt an mmo, and has no place on this website, its basicalyl Rune, it has good graphics yeah, but the gameplay is terrible.

    what i am saying is alot of new gen games are baseing the whole game ideal around max graphics they are all pushing for DX10 graphics but do to that they dont put enough time in to the game it self.

    they skip the pvp.pve,rpg, ect for high end graphics. they seem to think high end graphics are the way to go when its not.

    graphics are the 3rd important element of a game.

    first is gameplay.

    2nd is end game content.

    3rd is graphics.



    sure its great looking at super partical boom effects and insane weather effects but if the game has no content or cant keep you entertained whats the point of all that high end graphics?

  • WizardBlackWizardBlack Member Posts: 156

    I agree with most of what you guys are saying. I don't agree that asian mmo's have a lot of content. Yeah, they are lower graphical intensity but they are NOTHING but GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND or BOT BOT BOT. OTOH, NA/Euro games have evidently been stuck in the graphical quagmire recently, no doubt.

    Second thing is, 'end game content' clearly shows that the poster is a raider or so stuck in his/her mind that games must be like WoW and others that they haven't realized the wonderful truth that you don't to have grindy-grind 'endgame'. You could have an endless game where you don't have to top out on level and see all the dungeons with nothing else to do but brag about your kit.

    You know what I'd take? A game like DAoC with updated graphics and corrected (purified) gameplay (take some of the expansions back). That'd be kick arse. I can enjoy PvP, RvR, PvE, PvMP, etc. etc. as long as it's done right and they actually BALANCE the various factors.

  • IchmenIchmen Member UncommonPosts: 1,228

    Originally posted by WizardBlack


    I agree with most of what you guys are saying. I don't agree that asian mmo's have a lot of content. Yeah, they are lower graphical intensity but they are NOTHING but GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND or BOT BOT BOT. OTOH, NA/Euro games have evidently been stuck in the graphical quagmire recently, no doubt.
    Second thing is, 'end game content' clearly shows that the poster is a raider or so stuck in his/her mind that games must be like WoW and others that they haven't realized the wonderful truth that you don't to have grindy-grind 'endgame'. You could have an endless game where you don't have to top out on level and see all the dungeons with nothing else to do but brag about your kit.
    You know what I'd take? A game like DAoC with updated graphics and corrected (purified) gameplay (take some of the expansions back). That'd be kick arse. I can enjoy PvP, RvR, PvE, PvMP, etc. etc. as long as it's done right and they actually BALANCE the various factors.
    a game must have end game content cause once your max level you will have nothing to do. i play alot more asian mmos purely because they are grinders BUT they have end game content like free for all PVP or mass high level boss fighting. that you must finish the game to beable to beat successfully.

    im not in to wow never have been i hate wow not because as a mmo it sucks but because i dont like the game design, most of the content and the fanboys who claim its the god of all mmos and any mmo that comes out before or after wow is a clone of wow..

    thats what i hate about wow.

    but saddly its popular as it is do to its fanbase backing from SC1 and WC1-4 alot of other mmos are not built from an a pre-existing game unless its like RO2 or umm EQ2 ect. where they already have a fan base. but then again some times remakes suck worse then a low budget movie...

    alot of NA/Euro MMOs are built for graphics as most of the player base is used to FPS/RTS games where you dont want to spend 9 months gaining a single level. where the asian MMOs are built around grinding. NA are not. thats fine.

    i enjoy both styles i love grinders or non-grinders. high graphics or crappy graphic games. as long as the game gives me enjoyment ill play it for as long as i enjoy it. BUT so far alot of NA/Euro made/ports MMOs are totally lacking.. too many companys base the game too heavy on graphics that cause much unneeded stress on a system. or they make it soo bad just to make billions in e-commerice

    if you review the asian mmos who are built for pure cash cowing and line them with a NA port or game made for the same style you will see both suck.

    if a game is built for making money it will be too heavy on grinding that no one will play it for long. if its too heavy on graphics you will get fewer players as NOT everyone can afford a T1 line or a x10 core 900ghz CPU with 90million ram...

    the NA/Euro companies need to start basing their games around content and enjoyment factors and less on making trillions. money is made from enjoyment if 90million people like a game they will pay for it. but if that game sucks who would want to pay for it.

     

    thats all im getting at. too many mmos now days are made for high end systems and they suck or they suck because they are made to make money and lack everything from RPG to PVP in the game.. its just a crappy grind fest

  • TambourineTambourine Member UncommonPosts: 181

    I can't even load the game up with the new build. Was enjoying the build before, but now it's just absolutely terrible. As soon as the game comes up it just freezes and runs the audio like a broken record, resulting in either the game crashing, or me just having to reset my computer.

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  • clicksclicks Member Posts: 10

    They should probably AIM for lower graphic quality and better content, something else to keep people having fun. After all, that's what games are about, FUN. Not spend 10 hours doing XXX to be able to have 1h of FUN - LIKE WOW

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