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  • Beta1234Beta1234 Member Posts: 53

    Originally posted by bonobotheory


    Free shit is still shit.
    A kick in the balls is free, too - should we all run out and get booted in the nads?
    Hell, if you don't like it, I'll be happy to charge you for kicking you in the balls.

    Need to pay for the wear and tear on the boots :-)

     

  • EbonHawkEbonHawk Member Posts: 545

    Originally posted by bonobotheory


    Free shit is still shit.
    A kick in the balls is free, too - should we all run out and get booted in the nads?

    Aaaahhh, This made me laugh.  Thanks bro!

     

    P.S. And you gotta a point...

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    The real problem with the game is that they are competing with other localization companies that offer a better service and better game.  C'mon $2 for some crap item that only lasts 10 minutes, their cash shop is a joke.  That in mind they aren't really in a position to go f2p.  They don't have a good well planned out cash shop.  In addition to this the tweaks they made to the game were insanely stupid, like your clothing doesn't change appearance.  The only way to do it was to do high level raiding or get it in a bellum box by low percent.  Ontop of this they made you pay a monthly rate, but didn't increase exp rates.  Its actually worse then other variations of this game.  The other localized companies are smart enough to realize that the grind is a pain and offer a subscription that increases exp rates to make the grind acceptable.
     
    This games problem is simple.  It's being run by K2Networks, not a competent company.  Too bad HanbitSoft can't relocalize in the US until the contract with K2 is over.  The worst part is K2 is not even going to keep up to date and will be a year or 2 behind the other versions of this game.
    The point and click actually makes sense in the game because its suppose to play more like Diablo or an RTS and not like a traditional mmo.  There is very rarely stairs in this game and the ones you typically climb are wide enough not to be a problem.  A WASD setup actually would be idiotic with a setup of multi-player control.  Just look at Never Winter Nights 2, its WASD and camera controls where a complete pain to work with you would end up getting into an orthographic view and going point and click.  On top of this the programming involved with net coding and controlling multiple characters would cost too much for any game to realistically accomplish.  This games budget was the highest of any mmo to date.  They weren't able to allocate funds to deal with a different control setup.  Also WASD would completely mess with the smoothness of the game play, and low system specs.
     

    thats just rediculous. I personally favor the change in appearence. Some of the equipment in GE is just plain horrible, ever seen the equipment of the male elementalist at lower level? Disgusting. In other versions of Granado Espada, at some point, everyone is going to look exactly the same because everyone will be wearing the same equipment. this is something that will never happen in SotNW.

    Another improvement is that in the K2 network version, you don't have to press the space bar every 5 seconds because you just happened to move to another spot or clicked on a specific target.

    And thank god they didn't increase the XP rate, it already takes less then 2 months to reach the cap level.

    The K2 network version is definition superior to the other english versions.

     

     

    Playing in the same costume for 90 levels isn't something I consider customization and would rather have a system where my armor progresses.  Also you can't forget noobies wearing high level costumes that you usually do a quest to obtain.  It takes some of the reward out of the game.  The other version has end-game costumes and costumes you can buy in the cash shop.

    I don't really see what K2 did as an improvement.  They say they were westernizing the game but failed to target what the western market wants and only made some things worse.  Doing stuff like toughening monsters, increasing the exp they have, and decreasing spawn is easy to do.  They didn't do this.  Offering some form of rewarding PVP isn't that difficult either.  They didn't decide to do this.  Instead they decided on a clunky costume system that is probably the biggest shit idea a company can use.

    Coddling a company who screwed over its paying fanbase not once but twice isn't something I would do.  I am glad K2 Networks has such a poor record or this might have not been expected.  I just hope they drop Granado Espada and let a real company handle it.  Also like I said, they won't be updating the game for a while its just thier style.

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  • aphoniamuteaphoniamute Member UncommonPosts: 42

    Well from a female perspective I can tell you this... The game just didn't promote much grouping and socializing (at least levels 50 and below).  Not sure what it's like after that, but I can tell you I burned out on the game quickly even though I loved it.  And finding someone to just talk with... OH MY GOSH, I think I met one person online the entire time that was actually willing to talk to me about the game.

    Socializing and Teaming I think is a huge aspect of American MMO play, and when neither of those are highlighted, I think you have a bad combination.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by CleffyII


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    The real problem with the game is that they are competing with other localization companies that offer a better service and better game.  C'mon $2 for some crap item that only lasts 10 minutes, their cash shop is a joke.  That in mind they aren't really in a position to go f2p.  They don't have a good well planned out cash shop.  In addition to this the tweaks they made to the game were insanely stupid, like your clothing doesn't change appearance.  The only way to do it was to do high level raiding or get it in a bellum box by low percent.  Ontop of this they made you pay a monthly rate, but didn't increase exp rates.  Its actually worse then other variations of this game.  The other localized companies are smart enough to realize that the grind is a pain and offer a subscription that increases exp rates to make the grind acceptable.
     
    This games problem is simple.  It's being run by K2Networks, not a competent company.  Too bad HanbitSoft can't relocalize in the US until the contract with K2 is over.  The worst part is K2 is not even going to keep up to date and will be a year or 2 behind the other versions of this game.
    The point and click actually makes sense in the game because its suppose to play more like Diablo or an RTS and not like a traditional mmo.  There is very rarely stairs in this game and the ones you typically climb are wide enough not to be a problem.  A WASD setup actually would be idiotic with a setup of multi-player control.  Just look at Never Winter Nights 2, its WASD and camera controls where a complete pain to work with you would end up getting into an orthographic view and going point and click.  On top of this the programming involved with net coding and controlling multiple characters would cost too much for any game to realistically accomplish.  This games budget was the highest of any mmo to date.  They weren't able to allocate funds to deal with a different control setup.  Also WASD would completely mess with the smoothness of the game play, and low system specs.
     

    thats just rediculous. I personally favor the change in appearence. Some of the equipment in GE is just plain horrible, ever seen the equipment of the male elementalist at lower level? Disgusting. In other versions of Granado Espada, at some point, everyone is going to look exactly the same because everyone will be wearing the same equipment. this is something that will never happen in SotNW.

    Another improvement is that in the K2 network version, you don't have to press the space bar every 5 seconds because you just happened to move to another spot or clicked on a specific target.

    And thank god they didn't increase the XP rate, it already takes less then 2 months to reach the cap level.

    The K2 network version is definition superior to the other english versions.

     

     

     

    Playing in the same costume for 90 levels isn't something I consider customization and would rather have a system where my armor progresses.  Also you can't forget noobies wearing high level costumes that you usually do a quest to obtain.  It takes some of the reward out of the game.  The other version has end-game costumes and costumes you can buy in the cash shop.

    I don't really see what K2 did as an improvement.  They say they were westernizing the game but failed to target what the western market wants and only made some things worse.  Doing stuff like toughening monsters, increasing the exp they have, and decreasing spawn is easy to do.  They didn't do this.  Offering some form of rewarding PVP isn't that difficult either.  They didn't decide to do this.  Instead they decided on a clunky costume system that is probably the biggest shit idea a company can use.

    Coddling a company who screwed over its paying fanbase not once but twice isn't something I would do.  I am glad K2 Networks has such a poor record or this might have not been expected.  I just hope they drop Granado Espada and let a real company handle it.  Also like I said, they won't be updating the game for a while its just thier style.

    You're going to play in the same costume at some point anyway in the other versions. And aside from that, you're also able to wear different costumes in the SotNW version.

    You just proved that you're just out there to write negative stuff about K2 network. Because I clearly remember you saying that you would play the IAH version because you thought K2 network would change to much stuff. So now they did not change anything, and now you criticize them for not changing things? double standards ftl Cleffy.

    You seem to forget that K2 network is nothing more than the PUBLISHER. creating things like rewarding PVP is NOT K2 networks job, its IMC games's Job.toughening monsters? decreasing spawn? You do Realise that all characters, skills etc are build around the current mob setting, right? You can't just give every mob + 1000 hp, because all characters are build for low hp mobs.

     

    I suggest you drop your biased K2 network hatred. Its just rediculous.

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    K2 Networks had a say to IMC games on what they want to change in this version.  They thought of using that horrible costume system and got IMC Games to put it in.  They didn't ask for anything practical, like upping quest exp or attempting to reduce the repetativeness in the game which a western audience would like.  I would rather them not change anything then what they did to the game, and still would.  Atleast the IAH version treated the game with dignity and respect with descent voice acting and a great translation. 

    You aren't really stuck in the same costume just like this version in the end, you can swap out your costume when you get bored.  However, in this version your stuck in same look for 90 freaking levels.  Thats far worse because you're going to be leveling for about 2 months to hit max level in the same look.  Ontop of this, K2Networks don't treat this game with much respect.  You know they aren't going to update it as much as the IAH version, giving the IAH version even more costumes.  Also you have to consider that IAH's cash shop is going to be much better.  K2Networks has a fucked up cash shop that looks to have been created by a retarded cow.  The boost potions typically sell for 15 cents in other games, but in this one are $1.  Ontop of this they don't offer costumes which would be perfect for how the game was made.

    I am biased because the company is horrible, and they already screwed over the paying customer multiple times in this game.

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  • AckbarAckbar Member UncommonPosts: 927

    K2 has failed imho. The noob zones are so overcrowded with afkers. Yer lucky to kill 1 or 2 monsters a minute. No channels so were stuck like this.

     

     

    Attempted to play the game again last night anyway and in one zone there we so many chars i couldnt move my screen. After I left I continued to actually attempt to play the game. Then I was suddenly disconnected and suspended or banned from the game for seemingly no reason. Their support sure wasnt any help.

    K2 sure has failed. As far as the actual game I don't know I only played 17 levels of craptastic overcrowded hell. I hope there is a better version of this game out there cause the version I played sucked.

    ----ITS A TRAP!!!----

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    K2 Networks had a say to IMC games on what they want to change in this version.  They thought of using that horrible costume system and got IMC Games to put it in.  They didn't ask for anything practical, like upping quest exp or attempting to reduce the repetativeness in the game which a western audience would like.  I would rather them not change anything then what they did to the game, and still would.  Atleast the IAH version treated the game with dignity and respect with descent voice acting and a great translation. 
    You aren't really stuck in the same costume just like this version in the end, you can swap out your costume when you get bored.  However, in this version your stuck in same look for 90 freaking levels.  Thats far worse because you're going to be leveling for about 2 months to hit max level in the same look.  Ontop of this, K2Networks don't treat this game with much respect.  You know they aren't going to update it as much as the IAH version, giving the IAH version even more costumes.  Also you have to consider that IAH's cash shop is going to be much better.  K2Networks has a fucked up cash shop that looks to have been created by a retarded cow.  The boost potions typically sell for 15 cents in other games, but in this one are $1.  Ontop of this they don't offer costumes which would be perfect for how the game was made.
    I am biased because the company is horrible, and they already screwed over the paying customer multiple times in this game.
    You obviously have no idea what it takes to bring a game from the east to the west. The costume system adds more customization, in other versions of the game, Customization is non - existant. Everybody looks exactly the same. Not to mention that you can wear equipment. Upping quest XP? It already takes less then 2 months to reach the cap level, the absolute LAST thing they should do is up the quest experience. reduce the repetiveness is not an option, its part of the game mechanics. You can't change the core game mechanics.

    IAH doesn't treat the game with any more dignity and respect. they just translate and publish, nothing more.

    And K2 network will also update the game, where did you get this strange idea that the game won't be updated? Unless you work for K2 netwok, you're just making assumptions.

    Also, costumes are on their way.

    it seems you're just blinded by hatred because you're desperatly trying to justify playing on the laggy server from IAH. If you want to play on IAH's servers thats fine, but then don't come here grasping at straws.

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    K2Networks won't update the game as often as other versions because they are K2Networks.  They have never kept up to date on updates.  I don't play either version now because the IAH version is in Singapore, and the K2 version is just crap.  Its too bad because the game is good.

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  • ArekaineArekaine Member Posts: 72

    This really sucks. I was just looking for a game to take a break from Eve. I was really getting into this game because of the kick back game play and the killer RP community and interaction.

     

    Then they went F2P, and merged all the server channels. Now there are nothing but lag, bots, and gold spammers. Think K2 really screwed the pooch on this one. To bad see a nice little game like this go down the crapper so soon after it launched

    There is a Madness that has grown in the Light. And it is coming to burn you a cinder

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by CleffyII


    K2Networks won't update the game as often as other versions because they are K2Networks.  They have never kept up to date on updates.  I don't play either version now because the IAH version is in Singapore, and the K2 version is just crap.  Its too bad because the game is good.

    So in other words, you have no evidence whatsoever and are just assuming.

  • MoobkradMoobkrad Member Posts: 308

    Originally posted by aphoniamute


    Well from a female perspective I can tell you this... The game just didn't promote much grouping and socializing (at least levels 50 and below).  Not sure what it's like after that, but I can tell you I burned out on the game quickly even though I loved it.  And finding someone to just talk with... OH MY GOSH, I think I met one person online the entire time that was actually willing to talk to me about the game.
    Socializing and Teaming I think is a huge aspect of American MMO play, and when neither of those are highlighted, I think you have a bad combination.
    I have had no problem socializing and teaming. Almost in every zone I have found a non-AFKer which whom I can talk while I do quests. Have been adding to the clan as I go as well.

    Of course there are zones in which I'm questing right now, that are empty. No people, not even passing through.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by CleffyII


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    The real problem with the game is that they are competing with other localization companies that offer a better service and better game.  C'mon $2 for some crap item that only lasts 10 minutes, their cash shop is a joke.  That in mind they aren't really in a position to go f2p.  They don't have a good well planned out cash shop.  In addition to this the tweaks they made to the game were insanely stupid, like your clothing doesn't change appearance.  The only way to do it was to do high level raiding or get it in a bellum box by low percent.  Ontop of this they made you pay a monthly rate, but didn't increase exp rates.  Its actually worse then other variations of this game.  The other localized companies are smart enough to realize that the grind is a pain and offer a subscription that increases exp rates to make the grind acceptable.
     
    This games problem is simple.  It's being run by K2Networks, not a competent company.  Too bad HanbitSoft can't relocalize in the US until the contract with K2 is over.  The worst part is K2 is not even going to keep up to date and will be a year or 2 behind the other versions of this game.
    The point and click actually makes sense in the game because its suppose to play more like Diablo or an RTS and not like a traditional mmo.  There is very rarely stairs in this game and the ones you typically climb are wide enough not to be a problem.  A WASD setup actually would be idiotic with a setup of multi-player control.  Just look at Never Winter Nights 2, its WASD and camera controls where a complete pain to work with you would end up getting into an orthographic view and going point and click.  On top of this the programming involved with net coding and controlling multiple characters would cost too much for any game to realistically accomplish.  This games budget was the highest of any mmo to date.  They weren't able to allocate funds to deal with a different control setup.  Also WASD would completely mess with the smoothness of the game play, and low system specs.
     

    thats just rediculous. I personally favor the change in appearence. Some of the equipment in GE is just plain horrible, ever seen the equipment of the male elementalist at lower level? Disgusting. In other versions of Granado Espada, at some point, everyone is going to look exactly the same because everyone will be wearing the same equipment. this is something that will never happen in SotNW.

    Another improvement is that in the K2 network version, you don't have to press the space bar every 5 seconds because you just happened to move to another spot or clicked on a specific target.

    And thank god they didn't increase the XP rate, it already takes less then 2 months to reach the cap level.

    The K2 network version is definition superior to the other english versions.

     

     

     

    Playing in the same costume for 90 levels isn't something I consider customization and would rather have a system where my armor progresses.  Also you can't forget noobies wearing high level costumes that you usually do a quest to obtain.  It takes some of the reward out of the game.  The other version has end-game costumes and costumes you can buy in the cash shop.

    I don't really see what K2 did as an improvement.  They say they were westernizing the game but failed to target what the western market wants and only made some things worse.  Doing stuff like toughening monsters, increasing the exp they have, and decreasing spawn is easy to do.  They didn't do this.  Offering some form of rewarding PVP isn't that difficult either.  They didn't decide to do this.  Instead they decided on a clunky costume system that is probably the biggest shit idea a company can use.

    Coddling a company who screwed over its paying fanbase not once but twice isn't something I would do.  I am glad K2 Networks has such a poor record or this might have not been expected.  I just hope they drop Granado Espada and let a real company handle it.  Also like I said, they won't be updating the game for a while its just thier style.

    You're going to play in the same costume at some point anyway in the other versions. And aside from that, you're also able to wear different costumes in the SotNW version.

     

    You just proved that you're just out there to write negative stuff about K2 network. Because I clearly remember you saying that you would play the IAH version because you thought K2 network would change to much stuff. So now they did not change anything, and now you criticize them for not changing things? double standards ftl Cleffy.

    You seem to forget that K2 network is nothing more than the PUBLISHER. creating things like rewarding PVP is NOT K2 networks job, its IMC games's Job.toughening monsters? decreasing spawn? You do Realise that all characters, skills etc are build around the current mob setting, right? You can't just give every mob + 1000 hp, because all characters are build for low hp mobs.

     

    I suggest you drop your biased K2 network hatred. Its just rediculous.



    Dont listen to gameloading, everyone knows his type. course this game is f2p now, its junk.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Arcken

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Originally posted by CleffyII


     
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    The real problem with the game is that they are competing with other localization companies that offer a better service and better game.  C'mon $2 for some crap item that only lasts 10 minutes, their cash shop is a joke.  That in mind they aren't really in a position to go f2p.  They don't have a good well planned out cash shop.  In addition to this the tweaks they made to the game were insanely stupid, like your clothing doesn't change appearance.  The only way to do it was to do high level raiding or get it in a bellum box by low percent.  Ontop of this they made you pay a monthly rate, but didn't increase exp rates.  Its actually worse then other variations of this game.  The other localized companies are smart enough to realize that the grind is a pain and offer a subscription that increases exp rates to make the grind acceptable.
     
    This games problem is simple.  It's being run by K2Networks, not a competent company.  Too bad HanbitSoft can't relocalize in the US until the contract with K2 is over.  The worst part is K2 is not even going to keep up to date and will be a year or 2 behind the other versions of this game.
    The point and click actually makes sense in the game because its suppose to play more like Diablo or an RTS and not like a traditional mmo.  There is very rarely stairs in this game and the ones you typically climb are wide enough not to be a problem.  A WASD setup actually would be idiotic with a setup of multi-player control.  Just look at Never Winter Nights 2, its WASD and camera controls where a complete pain to work with you would end up getting into an orthographic view and going point and click.  On top of this the programming involved with net coding and controlling multiple characters would cost too much for any game to realistically accomplish.  This games budget was the highest of any mmo to date.  They weren't able to allocate funds to deal with a different control setup.  Also WASD would completely mess with the smoothness of the game play, and low system specs.
     

    thats just rediculous. I personally favor the change in appearence. Some of the equipment in GE is just plain horrible, ever seen the equipment of the male elementalist at lower level? Disgusting. In other versions of Granado Espada, at some point, everyone is going to look exactly the same because everyone will be wearing the same equipment. this is something that will never happen in SotNW.

    Another improvement is that in the K2 network version, you don't have to press the space bar every 5 seconds because you just happened to move to another spot or clicked on a specific target.

    And thank god they didn't increase the XP rate, it already takes less then 2 months to reach the cap level.

    The K2 network version is definition superior to the other english versions.

     

     

     

    Playing in the same costume for 90 levels isn't something I consider customization and would rather have a system where my armor progresses.  Also you can't forget noobies wearing high level costumes that you usually do a quest to obtain.  It takes some of the reward out of the game.  The other version has end-game costumes and costumes you can buy in the cash shop.

    I don't really see what K2 did as an improvement.  They say they were westernizing the game but failed to target what the western market wants and only made some things worse.  Doing stuff like toughening monsters, increasing the exp they have, and decreasing spawn is easy to do.  They didn't do this.  Offering some form of rewarding PVP isn't that difficult either.  They didn't decide to do this.  Instead they decided on a clunky costume system that is probably the biggest shit idea a company can use.

    Coddling a company who screwed over its paying fanbase not once but twice isn't something I would do.  I am glad K2 Networks has such a poor record or this might have not been expected.  I just hope they drop Granado Espada and let a real company handle it.  Also like I said, they won't be updating the game for a while its just thier style.

    You're going to play in the same costume at some point anyway in the other versions. And aside from that, you're also able to wear different costumes in the SotNW version.

     

    You just proved that you're just out there to write negative stuff about K2 network. Because I clearly remember you saying that you would play the IAH version because you thought K2 network would change to much stuff. So now they did not change anything, and now you criticize them for not changing things? double standards ftl Cleffy.

    You seem to forget that K2 network is nothing more than the PUBLISHER. creating things like rewarding PVP is NOT K2 networks job, its IMC games's Job.toughening monsters? decreasing spawn? You do Realise that all characters, skills etc are build around the current mob setting, right? You can't just give every mob + 1000 hp, because all characters are build for low hp mobs.

     

    I suggest you drop your biased K2 network hatred. Its just rediculous.



    Dont listen to gameloading, everyone knows his type. course this game is f2p now, its junk.

    Instead of saying "Omgz don't listen to gameloading!", why don't you come up with a reasonable counter arguement instead of your pathetic Trolling attempt?

    oh by the way, free to play (Microtransactions) have nothing to do with the quality of a title. its just a different payment method, nothing more.

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    K2Networks won't update the game as often as other versions because they are K2Networks.  They have never kept up to date on updates.  I don't play either version now because the IAH version is in Singapore, and the K2 version is just crap.  Its too bad because the game is good.

    So in other words, you have no evidence whatsoever and are just assuming.

    Well as a former player who just quit the game I do have a bit of insight. Im not sure if Cleffyll is 100% on the money, but from what I have seen K2 is rather horribly botching their game.

     

    Lets start at the beginning.

    The game released in July, it is now august. There are still quite a few bugs in game, but our last patch was the last week in July... its been a month with out a new bug fix.

    Singapore went live about 2 weeks ago, yet, they were able to get the nerfs stopped witch K2 cant seem to comment on, they have a fully functional cash shop while K2 has less than 10 items, and most of them useless. Singapore also has 3 channels now while K2 only has one.

    One channel? bah how bad can that be? Well now that the game is free 2 play its rather hard in some level ranges to find a spot. You have 10 plus people crammed into a room that previously held 1 or 2. This makes exping extremely slow.

    F2P. The game originally started as P2P, RIGHT after the subscriptions went through for the first month K2 announced with 0 warning ahead of time that the game was now F2P, and compensated paying subscribers with 1000 gold per month playing. They also reduced the channels from 3  to 1 channel. Those of us who were paying subscribers dont want 2000g as the cash shop is empty!

    Singapores Cash shop is 50% cheaper than ours. Veteran scrolls cost 1000 gold a piece (10 bucks a pop), and only cost  4400 in singapore (less than 6 bucks a pop). On top of that Singapore also gives a discount for buying 3 for 11880(less than 18 bucks)  while that would cost 3000 in USA with 30 bucks  down. When you look at the total life of the game, to upgrade all of your toons if you managed to fill your baracks would cost around 1500.00 for us in america..

    Singapore has better UPC's than us. K2's version got nerfed. What this means is the characters you quest for are now significantly weaker than their counterparts in Korea and Singapore. K2 told us IMC would nerf all versions... then Singapore goes live and doesnt have the nerfs, Singapore says IMC said they didnt have to do it. K2 was asked why. K2 called IMC in a conference call, and told us they would tell us the following week.

    Well the next week they went F2P and their Community service rep Melisande has been rather MIA ever since. She flutters in ever once in a while with her "Soons" and "We are working on it" and "Ill tell the producers" but we arent getting answers and there is no progress. All the while more people leave the game.

    Bots. Ever since F2P was announced THIS has inhabited our servers. It wouldnt be so bad if GM's would take care of it. However Neume is the ONLY gm atm that has the ability to ban bots and players, and he has been on the gamers first tour for the past two weeks. During this time the bots have leveled and leveled. Its like playing Lineage 2 all over again.

    If you feel Im exhagerating simply head on over to the K2 forums and check out the first page. You will see quite a few mass threads over rather unhappy people.

    Server population was small as is, but with this horrible management and 0 communication I dont think SOTNW in the US is going to do well much longer.

    Expect server merges before October

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