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AoC- Best MMO@Leipzig GC
Atreio
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Norway, Oslo - 24.08.2007 13:12:26 CET
"Funcom has today been informed that the upcoming Massively Multiplayer Online
game `Age of Conan` won this years` official price for `Best Online Game`
at Europe`s largest show for interactive entertainment, GC (Games onvention)in Leipzig, Germany."
Source: OBI (Oslo Stock Exchange)
"Funcom has today been informed that the upcoming Massively Multiplayer Online
game `Age of Conan` won this years` official price for `Best Online Game`
at Europe`s largest show for interactive entertainment, GC (Games onvention)in Leipzig, Germany."
Source: OBI (Oslo Stock Exchange)
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Also gets mentioned on Gamespot too as best online, but no showing for other big mmorpgs like warhammer though.
Gratz!
That's basically an award for ambition. Nothing else but to draw attention to a game, also known as scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Well more so to show what was going on and how impressive it was to the public.
When you look at a site like Gametrailers too who offer lots of media, it just shows that AoC has lots available - 20 more than say warhammer and nearly 1 million more downloads of that in comparison of another highly anticipated game. http://www.gametrailers.com/search.php?str_type=games&s=age%20of%20conan (only compared as another highly anticipated mmorpg as well)
AoC deserves attention because of the thing it offers and shows. Granted not all the time this is great but its hardly scraping the bottom of the barrel. War wasn't at E3 and barely showed anything in Leipzig, I didn't hear much of anything from any other game in mmorpg.com top anticipated games either.
Are you saying this award (scraping the bottom of the barrel) applies to all these games nominated ?
Full - List http://www.gamespot.com/events/leipzig07/story.html?sid=6177235&pid=931329&tag=top_stories;title;25
Avery, war-bois are prone to pop up and spew hate now, just ignore them ffs!
I was only comparing another highly anticipated game, I wasn't knocking it at all, just pointing out that it could quite possibly be deserved. It the warbois wanna get all silly about it thats their problem.
Congratz to Funcom and AoC on the award!
Thunder, there's no need to bash on a game for winning an award. Just as there's no need to bash on a game for not winning one. I'm not that concerned about convention awards myself, but I expect if WAR had won it I would be crowing about that myself lol
There are very innovative things that AoC is trying that could shape the future of the MMORPG genre, now they just have to deliver on them.
Justly so Alienovrlord! I think ANY award that an mmorpg wins benefits and puts the name out there for the genre.
I just hope the innovation that AoC presents becomes as polished as we all hope upon release.
That's the major worry for a sensible fan of any MMORPG, we've seen too many recent examples where the PR hype did not translate to reality on release.
With the displays at Liepzig allowing people to play the game and showing their PvP combat, AoC has taken an important step toward their own release. I've said it before, I'll say it again, Q1 2008 will be a very interesting time for the MMORPG genre.
To my knowledge it was the lighting effects system and elven races that were the two big things revealed for WAR. Its probably hard for WAR to show much new footage aside from that at Leipzig because they are continually releasing so much stuff OUTSIDE of leipzig. This is in direct contrast to AoC for example which has very little external footage (at least aside from redundant pve combat) and they save all their special stuff for hyped up events like GC.
Personally I prefer continuous new footage instead of just for special events but to each their own.
But this thread is not about how WAR has a better footage release policy so I'll leave it at that.
Congrats to AoC on its award though.
AoC's Content is out there you just have to look.
When your on a public stage with Industry Press and 200k Public - you want to show the best of your game. Thats why they got the award might I add AoC was against other games outside the genre (not only warhammer). You will make more of an impact at a show like this or E3 because word of mouth is a stronger form of advertising. Having little P. Barnett singing and dancing every other week is pretty simple in comparison.
Well more so to show what was going on and how impressive it was to the public.
When you look at a site like Gametrailers too who offer lots of media, it just shows that AoC has lots available - 20 more than say warhammer and nearly 1 million more downloads of that in comparison of another highly anticipated game. http://www.gametrailers.com/search.php?str_type=games&s=age%20of%20conan (only compared as another highly anticipated mmorpg as well)
AoC deserves attention because of the thing it offers and shows. Granted not all the time this is great but its hardly scraping the bottom of the barrel. War wasn't at E3 and barely showed anything in Leipzig, I didn't hear much of anything from any other game in mmorpg.com top anticipated games either.
Are you saying this award (scraping the bottom of the barrel) applies to all these games nominated ?
Full - List http://www.gamespot.com/events/leipzig07/story.html?sid=6177235&pid=931329&tag=top_stories;title;25
Avery please stop the spin. You know that the media on gametrailers is mostly player submitted. Also almost 400K of those downloads are from the intro trailer. AoC is a good game and did well at Leipzig... let that stand on its own merits rather then giving suspect credibility by these obvious spin posts.
AoC deserved best in show at Leipzig since they showed the most new content compared to other games. It also helped that Funcom a EU based company is breaking into the mainstream MMO market which most EU companies have failed to do.
It does not surprise me that you did not follow WAR at Leipzig but again stop the spin. WAR did well during the show and was a runner up for best game. They released new material and had the standard PvP showing that they have at all of these things.
Both games had a good showing at Leipzig. AoC released much more new content and things to discuss. People need to put the epeens away and think with their brains. You don't help your prefered game by spinning information good or bad.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Well more so to show what was going on and how impressive it was to the public.
When you look at a site like Gametrailers too who offer lots of media, it just shows that AoC has lots available - 20 more than say warhammer and nearly 1 million more downloads of that in comparison of another highly anticipated game. http://www.gametrailers.com/search.php?str_type=games&s=age%20of%20conan (only compared as another highly anticipated mmorpg as well)
AoC deserves attention because of the thing it offers and shows. Granted not all the time this is great but its hardly scraping the bottom of the barrel. War wasn't at E3 and barely showed anything in Leipzig, I didn't hear much of anything from any other game in mmorpg.com top anticipated games either.
Are you saying this award (scraping the bottom of the barrel) applies to all these games nominated ?
Full - List http://www.gamespot.com/events/leipzig07/story.html?sid=6177235&pid=931329&tag=top_stories;title;25
Avery please stop the spin. You know that the media on gametrailers is mostly player submitted. Also almost 400K of those downloads are from the intro trailer. AoC is a good game and did well at Leipzig... let that stand on its own merits rather then giving suspect credibility by these obvious spin posts.
AoC deserved best in show at Leipzig since they showed the most new content compared to other games. It also helped that Funcom a EU based company is breaking into the mainstream MMO market which most EU companies have failed to do.
It does not surprise me that you did not follow WAR at Leipzig but again stop the spin. WAR did well during the show and was a runner up for best game. They released new material and had the standard PvP showing that they have at all of these things.
Both games had a good showing at Leipzig. AoC released much more new content and things to discuss. People need to put the epeens away and think with their brains. You don't help your prefered game by spinning information good or bad.
That which you said to be true about AoC's Media on gametrailers.com is conversly true for Warhammer. Only Theres more people playing AOC and putting out material. You can draw your own assumptions of why this is true, but I'll outline a few possiblities.
1. Warhammer gamers are lazy.
2. Warhammer gamers arn't enthusiastic enough about the game to bother.
3. Theres not much to show that isn't already shown by a dozen other players.
4. Nobody knows why AoC fans put out more videos, then Warhammer fans.
I think AoC won "Best of" because it was the best. AoC has innovative NEW material. I wouldn't expect to be able to play a game for another 4 years, that is much like games already in exsistance. I remember learning the ways of UO, and it was FUN. I don't like starting a game like Tabula Rasa (which is in beta) and feeling like I'm playing another version of SWG. I'm not bashing Tabula Rasa I'm sure Garrot will put together something that will draw people in, but personaly I think its not for everyone. I don't think that all the MMO players want similar games. They want new, refreshing and exciting. I think if you think about those 3 things AoC is the first thing that comes to mind. Granted theres a HUGE market share of people who play games such as World of Warcraft, and it's a great move for a company to try to make a BETTER game with some of the same basic ideas. Warhammer may be MUCH better then World of Warcraft, but there are people who've been playing Warcraft for years now, and I think it would ALSO be a wise move for a game company to try and be very DIfferent from World of Warcraft. I think thats what AOC is doing here. Both are solid ideas to build a client base, the only question is what do YOU want. Do you want something thats very different from a lot of games on the market, or do you want something thats very similar but new in the market? AoC won "Best Of" because the people there seem to think that the way AOC went was the better idea. Not saying that Tabula Rasa or Warhammer went the WRONG way, but perhaps just not quite as good. Not everyone can be #1. Theres got to be a runner up. SO to this I say, Congratulations Warhammer on Runner UP!
Lets completely ignore there are more media sites out there. Lets completely ignore the fact that these player contributions are not from beta testers but fans that rehash old movies. When you look at the official media from gametrailers.com you can clearly see the OFFICIAL media is about equal. So conversely you cannot say the same is true for WAR since AoC has several times the fan contributed content then WAR. Just another spin.
Try taking a look at other media sites... Youtube.com = WAR over AoC by about 100 movies. Google.com = AoC over WAR by about 40 movies. etc... etc...
Taking one media site is spinning... taking a base average from several is being balanced. What we see when looking at multiple media sites is that WAR and AoC have about the same amount of "footage" out on the web. WAR has more PvP and AoC has more on combat mechanics and landscape. So all of your "assumptions" are incorrect. Try again please.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Lets completely ignore there are more media sites out there. Lets completely ignore the fact that these player contributions are not from beta testers but fans that rehash old movies. When you look at the official media from gametrailers.com you can clearly see the OFFICIAL media is about equal. So conversely you cannot say the same is true for WAR since AoC has several times the fan contributed content then WAR. Just another spin.
Try taking a look at other media sites... Youtube.com = WAR over AoC by about 100 movies. Google.com = AoC over WAR by about 40 movies. etc... etc...
Taking one media site is spinning... taking a base average from several is being balanced. What we see when looking at multiple media sites is that WAR and AoC have about the same amount of "footage" out on the web. WAR has more PvP and AoC has more on combat mechanics and landscape. So all of your "assumptions" are incorrect. Try again please.
And your assumption that his assumptions are incorrect are incorrect as you need exact statistics to back your statements as well. See the never ending cycle? Let it go guys...
Lets completely ignore there are more media sites out there. Lets completely ignore the fact that these player contributions are not from beta testers but fans that rehash old movies. When you look at the official media from gametrailers.com you can clearly see the OFFICIAL media is about equal. So conversely you cannot say the same is true for WAR since AoC has several times the fan contributed content then WAR. Just another spin.
Try taking a look at other media sites... Youtube.com = WAR over AoC by about 100 movies. Google.com = AoC over WAR by about 40 movies. etc... etc...
Taking one media site is spinning... taking a base average from several is being balanced. What we see when looking at multiple media sites is that WAR and AoC have about the same amount of "footage" out on the web. WAR has more PvP and AoC has more on combat mechanics and landscape. So all of your "assumptions" are incorrect. Try again please.
More DIFFERENT movies? War, NO. Youtube has the same War video under 29 different names. Uploaded by different people.
Lets completely ignore there are more media sites out there. Lets completely ignore the fact that these player contributions are not from beta testers but fans that rehash old movies. When you look at the official media from gametrailers.com you can clearly see the OFFICIAL media is about equal. So conversely you cannot say the same is true for WAR since AoC has several times the fan contributed content then WAR. Just another spin.
Try taking a look at other media sites... Youtube.com = WAR over AoC by about 100 movies. Google.com = AoC over WAR by about 40 movies. etc... etc...
Taking one media site is spinning... taking a base average from several is being balanced. What we see when looking at multiple media sites is that WAR and AoC have about the same amount of "footage" out on the web. WAR has more PvP and AoC has more on combat mechanics and landscape. So all of your "assumptions" are incorrect. Try again please.
And your assumption that his assumptions are incorrect are incorrect as you need exact statistics to back your statements as well. See the never ending cycle? Let it go guys...
So you agree that Tachyon was just posting baseless assumptions? That's really all that atz was trying to show, the numbers and statistics part was just tacked on. So I guess he succeeded.
Lets completely ignore there are more media sites out there. Lets completely ignore the fact that these player contributions are not from beta testers but fans that rehash old movies. When you look at the official media from gametrailers.com you can clearly see the OFFICIAL media is about equal. So conversely you cannot say the same is true for WAR since AoC has several times the fan contributed content then WAR. Just another spin.
Try taking a look at other media sites... Youtube.com = WAR over AoC by about 100 movies. Google.com = AoC over WAR by about 40 movies. etc... etc...
Taking one media site is spinning... taking a base average from several is being balanced. What we see when looking at multiple media sites is that WAR and AoC have about the same amount of "footage" out on the web. WAR has more PvP and AoC has more on combat mechanics and landscape. So all of your "assumptions" are incorrect. Try again please.
And your assumption that his assumptions are incorrect are incorrect as you need exact statistics to back your statements as well. See the never ending cycle? Let it go guys...
So you agree that Tachyon was just posting baseless assumptions? That's really all that atz was trying to show, the numbers and statistics part was just tacked on. So I guess he succeeded.
I think it was clear in my statement that I agree, and said it would just lead to a neverending cycle, which is why they should let it go.
Congratulations AoC for the award, deserves to get some.
As for the comment about number of WAR videos vs AoC, you are looking in the completely wrong place if you are only looking there for WAR videos. Try Warhammer Alliance, and note the number of videos purely from the fansite gathering alone that you can find, most of which are around the 30 minute mark. Don't forget quality counts as well as quantity ;P. Either way though, it would be practically impossible to prove. Personally though, I think WAR is more open with information. Personal opinion.
Also the comment about WAR not being innovative is just plain wrong. The steps it takes are not as dramatically different as AoC's combat system, but there are large innovations in there, anyone who has put in the most minor of effort at researching the game can see that. It's a game made by people who love making games, as I'm sure AoC is. Only EA think of it as a cash cow, and they have had the sense to realise that just letting Mythic do their stuff is going to be far more successful than forcing anything.
I think both the games are going to be very successful. I think WAR has a higher chance of being ridiculously successful, due to the awesome lore, backing by EA, Paul Barnett, Teen rating instead of Mature and aspects similar to popular MMO's now (not that it is very similar, but things like the UI and way things work will be familiar to MMO players). Which one will be a better game? Who knows, but we all know that how good a game is does not necessarily compare to how well it sells *cough*WoW*cough*.
Anyway, quite off-topic there, but congratulations to AoC on a well-deserved award.
The reason that i brought this up was because AmazingAvery used it to spin AoC. WhiteDelight I usually find your posts more accurate and informed then many in your guild. Avery has to be the most biased I have seen. That was my point... why bring this up in the first place if you know it is nothing but spin. It detracts from the obvious accomplishments made by AoC on merit. Trolls will be trolls and everyone will see them for what they are... sinking to their level and making baseless claims only affects your own integrity. Perhaps someone in your guild should explain that to Avery. It is perfectly fine to love a game and fight for it... many in your guild do this well... Just time and time again I have had an issue with Avery spinning and misleading people to make AoC look better then it is.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
The reason that i brought this up was because AmazingAvery used it to spin AoC. WhiteDelight I usually find your posts more accurate and informed then many in your guild. Avery has to be the most biased I have seen. That was my point... why bring this up in the first place if you know it is nothing but spin. It detracts from the obvious accomplishments made by AoC on merit. Trolls will be trolls and everyone will see them for what they are... sinking to their level and making baseless claims only affects your own integrity. Perhaps someone in your guild should explain that to Avery. It is perfectly fine to love a game and fight for it... many in your guild do this well... Just time and time again I have had an issue with Avery spinning and misleading people to make AoC look better then it is.
I thank you for the compliment and I know why everyone has been making all sorts of statements about these upcoming game and I am fine with that, I was just trying to come up with a way to calm everyone down and say, let it go.
I am completely calm heh.... I just hate to see misinformation being spread by anyone... for or against a game. I think in general your guild does a lot to help the AoC boards here... Like I said, Avery tends to detract from this which is a shame. I will drop this thread for you though... I will only respond if directly questioned.
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
I am completely calm heh.... I just hate to see misinformation being spread by anyone... for or against a game. I think in general your guild does a lot to help the AoC boards here... Like I said, Avery tends to detract from this which is a shame. I will drop this thread for you though... I will only respond if directly questioned.
As you do a lot of good for the boards as well. I also hate to see misinformation for or against mmorpgs in general because it is never good for the genre. The genre will never truly advance if everytime a game offers to try something new, or rehash something old, it gets bashed. I am one person who supports the success of all mmorpgs hoping that they do good because success for one may spark ideas for another, or a future developement team.