Gamer Get Banned for PKing

thoreau

Mindark, the devs for Entropia Universe,  recently banned a player for pking in a pk zone.

http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79891

Mindark was attending the Leipzig Games convention and had several avatars engaging in pk on an open pk land area.

This land area, like others in the game, have an on/off switch for player killing. The switch was 'on' and the land area was public. There were no messages or warning that an 'event' was going on.

A high level player entered the area, seen the fighting, and decided to join the battle. Because one of the players killed an avatar that was showing off for the convention - they were banned.

Dear Entropia Universe Participant,



Your account has been temporarliy banned since you have deliberately ruined an event at the Leipzig convention. Please consider this a warning.



Regards,

Entropia Support

While this ban is temporary, bans can result in the loss of thousands of dollars in real world money. Entropia Universe is a game based on a real cash economy. Items are bought and sold for thousands of dollars every day.

Take this information for what it is worth.

godpuppet

That must suck for the player.

Kyleran

Well, in many of these cases, the people complaining aren't telling the whole story... so its hard to say if he's being unfairly persecuted in this case.  But if it is true, he always has the ultimate recourse at his disposal...quit playing the game.... (and I hear this isn't much of a game anyways)

 

Liliane

I don't see any problem that someone was banned in PvP area when PKing. Just because someone is in PvP area, doesn't  mean the player have rights to destroy some game event done in that area. PKing isn't the problem here, but the actions effect to other players and the event.

Airspell

  It's a temporary ban, and a rightful one.  Niether side could really prove if this was malicious or not, so they just gave him a warning ban just in case it was.  He won't make that mistake again that's for sure :P

Unknown

This happened in a 2d game called tibia too. There was a big PvP guild and GMs banned it for killing too many people. It's sad because there is already an automatic pvp banishment system in that game too. Some people get really offended over pvp when just about every game has non pvp server counterparts,

Lydon

I'd be extremely annoyed if it was we who got banned. How can they prove that he deliberately ruined the event? This would be fun to watch in court :P

Man1ac

Bloody hell, and I thought subscribing monthly fees to games was bad! 

Samuraisword

I have no sympathy for anyone wronged in a game that promotes RMT.

atziluth

 

Originally posted by thoreau


Mindark, the devs for Entropia Universe,  recently banned a player for pking in a pk zone.
http://www.entropiaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79891
Mindark was attending the Leipzig Games convention and had several avatars engaging in pk on an open pk land area.
This land area, like others in the game, have an on/off switch for player killing. The switch was 'on' and the land area was public. There were no messages or warning that an 'event' was going on.
A high level player entered the area, seen the fighting, and decided to join the battle. Because one of the players killed an avatar that was showing off for the convention - they were banned.
 

Dear Entropia Universe Participant,



Your account has been temporarliy banned since you have deliberately ruined an event at the Leipzig convention. Please consider this a warning.



Regards,

Entropia Support

 

While this ban is temporary, bans can result in the loss of thousands of dollars in real world money. Entropia Universe is a game based on a real cash economy. Items are bought and sold for thousands of dollars every day.

Take this information for what it is worth.

Again post that do not tell he whole truth. Funny how the original poster did not update this thread with this.

 

The event area was noted as an event area and is blocked from non-ticket-holder. Only Convention avatars have tickets, else I guess the area would be full of curious avatars. Info about what was going on was present inside Entropia, as standard with events. You somehow managed to get into the area in the small time window between event timers (the four hour intervalls) which was an unfortunate, and unexpected, situation. I apologize for the action, the punishment is way too harsh considering the circumstances. An ample warning and a possible TP out of the area would have been the better way. But it was a quick reaction to resolve a situation, but in afterthought a rough one.

__________________ Regards -Marco Behrmann -Director of Community Relations, MindArk PE AB

Seems like they made good with an apology and lifting of the ban after they fixed the issue at the convention. No real harm done.

scipher42

 

Originally posted by Liliane


I don't see any problem that someone was banned in PvP area when PKing. Just because someone is in PvP area, doesn't  mean the player have rights to destroy some game event done in that area. PKing isn't the problem here, but the actions effect to other players and the event.

Yeh but that's the thing did even know it was an event and if so they should've blocked it from public  And when your in a PVP area or PKZ you can be attacked by anyone even if you want to or not otherwise they should just remove pvp and pking what would the game be then? (it already sucks from what i've seen anyhow) You don't want to get pk'ed you move to a  safe zone you hold a competition you announce it and block the public. no point in allowing a suppose to be private event in public area I'm sure if they'd put some effort they could create an event area for things like that and close it off to the public.

 

Most game teams are pathetic anyways if your going to ban someone for pk'ing in a pk'ing zone or pk'ing to much then maybe you shouldn't have pvp at all, unless they're pvp'ing with cheats or are using glitches or another form that makes it so they cannot be killed properly but that's not the case here if your allowed in that public area and no one says an events taking place don't interfere how are you to know? Especially if all they do is post announcements on their forumns...I for one never check the forumns unless I'm reporting a technical issue so i can keep playing or the login server is down so i can see when it'll be back up.

I think they did him wrong maybe they should've warned him before he went in attacking... He says he said "i'll help you" then someone should've stepped in and said it's a private event dont intefere.

 

Also Liliane If he didn't know it was an event  then he didn't purposely try and destroy the event and if people are in pvp area with no warning that theirs an event i'd probably just do the same hahaha...your in PVP every other player has the right to act and kil you or engage pvp unless told otherwise by an official. And if an events taking place and you don't know and they don't tell you when you get there then you shouldn't be getting banned as a warning they should ban them selves completely for failing to provide the information to ALL players wether they look on forumns or not. they could announce it in the game that way all players will know.

Gozzar

thats not right... if its a pk zone and u can do it.. you should not be banned.. dont play that crap

Sheista

Originally posted by Gozzar


thats not right... if its a pk zone and u can do it.. you should not be banned.. dont play that crap

Way to not pay attention to the post with blue text two posts up.

Thekandy

My thoughts is that this guy got a temporary ban, if he thinks it was unjust let him do the complaining and talk his case, unless that person is you OP i cannot really gain a understanding to tell whether it was unjust or not. There has been something supposedly from the developers posted here and that points towards it being an act of pure spite, but then again the developers may just have been pressed to make an example of him for interfering in their event, knowingly or not.

I've tried the game, found it to be mediocre and that was that, i were too much of a pennypincher to invest anything in it, but from what i saw i wouldn't really call it all that great.

Kasimir

I am also sure he knew exactly where he was, that it was the convention and he just wanted to play a trick on them. He timed his entry to get into the area, knowing it would be closed later, and thought he could do his prank running in there and killing people to get attention, wihtout punishment. Then.. he got stopped, so the convention could go on wihtout interuptions, and punished.

Oh my GAAAWD its so unfair!!

tvalentine

lol my friend got banned from WoW for PvPing on a PvP server in WoW,,,, they just banned/deleted his account, it sucked,

drayssj4

Well seeing as we will never know the full story unless we know the guy that got banned or was there it really doesent matter. But if its a pvp area they should be allowed to kill any other person without any ban or anything I mean wtf. If your going to have and event like that ummm lets see do it somewhere private and only invite the dev team or whatnot. If this is true that is just *beeping* stupid you cant ban someone for that event or not. Thats the reason why its a pvp zone.

tunabun

 

Originally posted by atziluth
 





The event area was noted as an event area and is blocked from non-ticket-holder. Only Convention avatars have tickets, else I guess the area would be full of curious avatars. Info about what was going on was present inside Entropia, as standard with events. You somehow managed to get into the area in the small time window between event timers (the four hour intervalls) which was an unfortunate, and unexpected, situation.



I apologize for the action, the punishment is way too harsh considering the circumstances. An ample warning and a possible TP out of the area would have been the better way. But it was a quick reaction to resolve a situation, but in afterthought a rough one.



 

__________________

Regards

-Marco Behrmann

-Director of Community Relations, MindArk PE AB





Seems like they made good with an apology and lifting of the ban after they fixed the issue at the convention. No real harm done.

Rightfully so as they were 100% in the wrong.  My personal opinion, nothing that the game allows you to do should be banable.  The devs create the problem, they should fix it, NO ONE should be held responsible for exploiting something they did in no way create.

Aside from my personal viewpoint on exploitation, it is ridiculous that someone would be banned in a full PvP zone for PKing, even IF they entered the "off limit event area" through some sort of glitch.  It is the full responsibility of the developers to make sure this kind of thing does not occur, any blame on any other party is merely a copout.

Anyone who says they believe in real justice when it comes to those who exploit or grief, but do not place full blame for said exploiters and griefers on the developers of the game, are merely showing how vengeful they are, not in anyway using their logical abilities to see the reality that is, instead opting to get an annoyance dealt with at any cost.

vajuras

reminds of a certain forum where you can be banned for offending the WAR fanbois

paulscott

it's the developers game they can do whatever they want, they just have to put up with whatever backlash there is.

 

note this forum topic.

vajuras

Originally posted by Kasimir


I am also sure he knew exactly where he was, that it was the convention and he just wanted to play a trick on them. He timed his entry to get into the area, knowing it would be closed later, and thought he could do his prank running in there and killing people to get attention, wihtout punishment. Then.. he got stopped, so the convention could go on wihtout interuptions, and punished.
Oh my GAAAWD its so unfair!!

thats a plausible viewpoint

Amalaric

He probably PK:ed a developer of that game or someting. 

Kyleran

Originally posted by Amalaric


He probably PK:ed a developer of that game or someting. 

and looted all his stuff....

Astropuyo

Then told him

"get a life nub LOLZ" and ran off into the sunset.

vajuras

Originally posted by Astropuyo


Then told him
"get a life nub LOLZ" and ran off into the sunset.

lmao thats probably what happened. the developer just couldnt handle the powa he gave his customers