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So you don't recommend EQ2 for anyone who likes to solo. I agree. EQ2 is forced group oriented.
this is so not true its funny
. i just started playing a month and a half ago...level 36.....only time i grouped was to storm crushbone keep with guildies. No twinking or uber loot either, just what i make/buy/recieve from quests.
I am only level 25, and I group often because I actually enjoy it in EQ 2 (unlike many other games I have played, including EQ 1, btw). Nevertheless, you can easily solo. A number of friends of mine play, some are in their late 40s and they basically soloed their way up.
Everquest 2 is extremely solo friendly (you even have solo dungeons). In all seriousness, if the game were not solo friendly, I would not play it because I generally consider myself a soloer.
mmogdata.voig.com/
Quick question though. Why would anyonereally want to play EQII anymore? It is really old news. Does not offer a darn thing except a top heavy community and that's about it. The game pretty much fizzed at launch na djustr been in decline for the last couple of years, now you want to claim it is busting at the seams? Give people a break, just cause we are gamers does not mean we will swallow that shit.
More ignorance .We are talking money issues aka buisness .
Do you even know that sub data has more to do with the buisness market?Sit back and think about it.
Let me talk simple .Want to know about how bash bing on head is fun in a game-read gaming magazine.Want to know about how much money game is making read buisness magazine.
By the way if you ever bothered to read the FAQ/about you would know that site is using sirbruce's old data which never was even accurate.Go read and see .Its a single guy with no connection clearly admitting he been trying to get sirbruce and clearly stating he uses sirbruce data ,so is it amazing that not only EQ2 but many games have the same figures sirbruce quoted ages ago.
Here is a quote from that website "Taken SirBruce’s data ".Also voig that runs that site are no way even analyst lol.They customize gamer's website and thats even their words.
Bet you feel foolish now .Next time read around the website before you post.
When making a point try and research please or else it makes you look clueless .
Yes the developers talked about this at Fanfaire, they said that even news sites like Gamespot would take Sirbruces numbers as gospel, when they have absolutly no logical..not to mention scientific means to gather data. One of the reaons SOE said they were so tight lipped about any subscriber information is privacy, Blizzard is still dealing with the backlash of making their information a bit too public. And it just isn't logical, you ca't have a game that's "declining" and still be the Number 3 download on Direct2drive, and in the top five MMORPG sales at Gamestop. That is hardly declining.
As you said more ignorance... I think the biggest proof that JD is full of crap, he is this lone Rantboi and all of these people have come to this thread to defend EQ II and make him look foolish.
Yes the developers talked about this at Fanfaire, they said that even news sites like Gamespot would take Sirbruces numbers as gospel, when they have absolutly no logical..not to mention scientific means to gather data. One of the reaons SOE said they were so tight lipped about any subscriber information is privacy, Blizzard is still dealing with the backlash of making their information a bit too public. And it just isn't logical, you ca't have a game that's "declining" and still be the Number 3 download on Direct2drive, and in the top five MMORPG sales at Gamestop. That is hardly declining.
As you said more ignorance... I think the biggest proof that JD is full of crap, he is this lone Rantboi and all of these people have come to this thread to defend EQ II and make him look foolish.
Well Jackdog only fact is that the game is old.... The rest, we throw it in the garbage.But Turbine releasing a ridiculous figure (4 million characters)... thats totally cool.
eqnext.wikia.com
really anyone can find the facts out. Download the Fae trial. See how easy it is yto find a group. If like the OP you have problems at level 10 why would the mid 20's and 30's be any easier. If the game is not fun by lvl 10 it sure as hell won't be fun at 20 and 30.
~ now trhwe old dawg just sits back and waitsd for the mad rush of 10 post wonders proclaiming how the game saved their social life last week~
You guys are pretty obvious you know, what I find terribly amusing is that you think anyone would ever buy the game cause you like it or not buy it cause I do not. Viral marketing is a myth, noyt saying it does not happen. Just that it does not work. Vanguard is living proof of that.
I miss DAoC
Thing is Jack, I agree with you they should check out the Trial and decide for themselves, especially since they have altered the play the fae to where you can play any class. Secondly never claimed it saved my social life, but I have a hell of a lot of fun when I log in. keep in mind I have WoW and a Lifetime LOTRO account....but I play what I enjoy the most and right now that's EQ II.
Sad to say Viral Marketing isn't a myth I have seen these guys first hand, Blizzard is really big on using them, Sigil did use them until SOE purchased them. Whether it works or not is debatable I know at Fannfaire after the Five that were hawking WoW was asked to leave they all crawled into a Mini-van that said SOMAR on the side, I checked on the internet but couldn’t find any information on that firm. The thing is Viral marketers make companies look bad. These guys were posing as EX EQ II players, one was telling me how his large guild left EQ II for WoW and never looked back a few hours later we see them handing out Trial disk...it was funny actually.
But like I said if EQ II is doing that badly, Blizzard wouldn't waste the effort, and you know...Fanfaire was packed this year more so than I have seen it in a long time, and most the folks I talked to were EQ II or EQ players... I did feel bad for the MxO Q&A only four people showed up. Anyway you can't see why folks would want to play EQII, I can't see why anyone would still want to play UO but they do, the games have their audiences and are not going anywhere any time soon.
The article dosen't say EQ II specifiaclly Gary Mcalister said at the 2007 fanfaire that the majority of the subscription income was from EQ II (Which makes sense it certainly isn't from SWG, or Vangaurd LOL) SOE hasn't given subscription numbers in years but he did say that EQ II broke the million mark with EoF and those numbers haven't gone down, SOE is very tight lipped about there sub numbers, Frank Perko said they would follow that policy even if each of thier games had 20 million subscribers. the link does validte the profit margin last year.
As far as LOTRO goes...If you check the LOTRO page I think Patence said the sub numbers were around half a million.
Are there any links to the 1 million players claim?sorry to pester but i'd like to play eq2 again at some point(direct2drive most likely).Seems like a very high number of players which is good,and if im going to play I dont want to be in a ghost town.
No, all I know was what was said at Fanfiare, and seeing how packed that was it was totally beliveable. But the simple thing to do is just grab the trial and see for yourself...right? That's what I have a hard time understanding I hear people say..."well I don't wan't to be in a ghost town" Have you tried the trial? "well umm ...no" It's free, and will put you in the live game so you can see for yourself, your not going to know it sucks for sure until you try it RIGHT?..... here I'll make it easy for ya.
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/promotions/playthefae/
No, all I know was what was said at Fanfiare, and seeing how packed that was it was totally beliveable. But the simple thing to do is just grab the trial and see for yourself...right? That's what I have a hard time understanding I hear people say..."well I don't wan't to be in a ghost town" Have you tried the trial? "well umm ...no" It's free, and will put you in the live game so you can see for yourself, your not going to know it sucks for sure until you try it RIGHT?..... here I'll make it easy for ya.
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/promotions/playthefae/
Ive tried the trial twice,and there wasnt tonnes of people around so I was just wondering what the pops like.
The article dosen't say EQ II specifiaclly Gary Mcalister said at the 2007 fanfaire that the majority of the subscription income was from EQ II (Which makes sense it certainly isn't from SWG, or Vangaurd LOL) SOE hasn't given subscription numbers in years but he did say that EQ II broke the million mark with EoF and those numbers haven't gone down, SOE is very tight lipped about there sub numbers, Frank Perko said they would follow that policy even if each of thier games had 20 million subscribers. the link does validte the profit margin last year.
As far as LOTRO goes...If you check the LOTRO page I think Patence said the sub numbers were around half a million.
Are there any links to the 1 million players claim?sorry to pester but i'd like to play eq2 again at some point(direct2drive most likely).Seems like a very high number of players which is good,and if im going to play I dont want to be in a ghost town.
like the man said do the trial, if you have fun and find new friends great. If not look for another game. When I did the FAE thing a couple of weeks ago Antonia Bayle seemed to have a decent if not overwheming population in the newbie area. The other servers I tried were pretty much dead however, at least in the under 20 areas.
I miss DAoC
No, all I know was what was said at Fanfiare, and seeing how packed that was it was totally beliveable. But the simple thing to do is just grab the trial and see for yourself...right? That's what I have a hard time understanding I hear people say..."well I don't wan't to be in a ghost town" Have you tried the trial? "well umm ...no" It's free, and will put you in the live game so you can see for yourself, your not going to know it sucks for sure until you try it RIGHT?..... here I'll make it easy for ya.
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/promotions/playthefae/
Ive tried the trial twice,and there wasnt tonnes of people around so I was just wondering what the pops like.
You don't want tons of people, thrust me.On a side note, here's the population on all servers (SOE Style):
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5765/server1943wedfq7.jpg
eqnext.wikia.com
On a side note - why do they use the heavy medium and light bullshit, they scared to put up real numbers? Heavy could be 100 people for all we know. . More SOE smoke and mirrors , thanks matrique. Do the trial , unless you roll on AB you might as well be playing a single player game.
I miss DAoC
Ive come back 2 times in the last 2 years and have always had plenty of ppl to lvl with there(only lvled from 1-25 though, twice...both time berzerkers....wish I couldve remembered my old ACCOUNT NAME
). Im not lying to you, I dont even play the game anymore, just trying to be helpful as its harder to get a straight answer about game population on MMORPG.com than it is from SOE itself!!!
anyway, here is my personal little assessment of eq2(pvp server nagafen):
Very intriguing, mature lore at first...until you realize its just a broken hodgepodge of generic fantasy cliches....
quests are just as dull as WOW but even more time consuming(running across commonlands for basically nothing, etc).
PVP concept is great but its not like WOW where someone can only terrorize a zone for so long before upper level hordes arrive...certain times of day in WC or commonlands you just have to LOG OFF
In theory it whores wow's pvp though...
graphics are amazing, spell effects second only to DAOC. I dont find things brown and boring, I find them realistic and fitting on the evil side(good side is unimaginative and dull imo)
number of classes is a double edged sword...AMAZING variety, but its hard to pick a single class to play because many have been watered down in order to create such a class(watered down at least in description, havent played all of em of course). Its not like DAOC where you can find the perfect class, you will always want to reroll.
Combat SEEMS like fun and LOOKS like it has a decent pace, but the reality is that you are always weak and always underpowered, and at lvl 25 where I was, I had to rest between every combat encounter. Really slows things down.
Stealthers as always own in pvp...though theres a cool vid of a shadowknight pwning on youtube so what do I know.
LOTRO, well, ...pve mmo's ftl.
Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.
Just for fun, here's another one:
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7417/eqservers1108mx8.jpg
eqnext.wikia.com
That means blizzard and turbine and loads more companies doing smoke and mirriors.Blizzard server does not display the actual numbers neither so i assume in your view blizzard is hiding its numbers too.On my EU LOTRO server(yeah your favourite game) it too does not display its numbers.
I am sure by now no one takes you seriously .
So turbine ,soe ,blizzard are all so scared i assume.Oh look folks turbine haemorraghing lotro players thats why we cannot see the actual numbers!!
That means blizzard and turbine and loads more companies doing smoke and mirriors.Blizzard server does not display the actual numbers neither so i assume in your view blizzard is hiding its numbers too.On my EU LOTRO server(yeah your favourite game) it too does not display its numbers.
I am sure by now no one takes you seriously .
So turbine ,soe ,blizzard are all so scared i assume.Oh look folks turbine haemorraghing lotro players thats why we cannot see the actual numbers!!
heh Blizzard at least puts a little verifier with their 9 million that those numbers are actual sub numbers who have had a account in the last 30 days. Like I keep saying no one has to believe me on a damn thing. They can find out themselves just by getting a trial account and rolling on any server other than Antonia Bayle aqnd see what the population is. Same for Lotro, get a 7 day account and log ito any server. People are not stupid as you seem to think. They will do tthe seven day trials and decide for themselves. No one believes the forum spam these days, they have been burned too many times now by games like Dark and Light and Vanguard.I miss DAoC
No, all I know was what was said at Fanfiare, and seeing how packed that was it was totally beliveable. But the simple thing to do is just grab the trial and see for yourself...right? That's what I have a hard time understanding I hear people say..."well I don't wan't to be in a ghost town" Have you tried the trial? "well umm ...no" It's free, and will put you in the live game so you can see for yourself, your not going to know it sucks for sure until you try it RIGHT?..... here I'll make it easy for ya.
http://everquest2.station.sony.com/promotions/playthefae/
Ive tried the trial twice,and there wasnt tonnes of people around so I was just wondering what the pops like.
You don't want tons of people, thrust me.On a side note, here's the population on all servers (SOE Style):
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5765/server1943wedfq7.jpg
pvp ones red I seeI read an announcement that since EoF 1.4 million characters have been made,so thats where the million figures coming from I think.
That means blizzard and turbine and loads more companies doing smoke and mirriors.Blizzard server does not display the actual numbers neither so i assume in your view blizzard is hiding its numbers too.On my EU LOTRO server(yeah your favourite game) it too does not display its numbers.
I am sure by now no one takes you seriously .
So turbine ,soe ,blizzard are all so scared i assume.Oh look folks turbine haemorraghing lotro players thats why we cannot see the actual numbers!!
heh Blizzard at least puts a little verifier with their 9 million that those numbers are actual sub numbers who have had a account in the last 30 days. Like I keep saying no one has to believe me on a damn thing. They can find out themselves just by getting a trial account and rolling on any server other than Antonia Bayle aqnd see what the population is. Same for Lotro, get a 7 day account and log ito any server. People are not stupid as you seem to think. They will do tthe seven day trials and decide for themselves. No one believes the forum spam these days, they have been burned too many times now by games like Dark and Light and Vanguard.So in effect you are actually saying everyone should ignore your half arsed comments which sounds about right since you are guilty of the ancient art of troll spam to start with.
If anyone thinks people are stupid i assume its you since all you have done is troll mindlessly as far as trying to fool people with some "industry analyst" which have been shown to to be a product of dodgy old sirbruce's numbers and now you claim soe is guilty of smoke and mirror because they do not have numbers printed on their servers which most games don't neither.
So if anyone is guilty of thinking people are stupid it is certainly YOU.Now my advise is go back to LOTRO and try convince people to stay as its littered with posts of bored players !
And yes i encourage anyone to try EQ2 ans see how the population is like.In short roll oasis which is considered one of the smallest servers in EQ2 and pm me and we will do a quick maths of visible players(aka not hidden levels) and you will come back and post and laugh at the above trolling.For my in game character email on site and we will hook up.
Ofc the game is not all about numbers but just trying to show i can easily show a game with 3k+ on one of the smallest servers on prime time .After we done some maths i can show you around and how the game is played which is the main thing anyhow
Actually what I am saying is that they should ignore the fanboy and paid shills and do a free trial to keep themselves from wasting their money on this old tired dieing game. Forum threads here are littered with paid shill posts trying to persuade perople that the game is something other than the same old crap and is fading even farther into the lands of empty servers. Have a nice day.
I miss DAoC
does this pack include the original game too,or do I need to buy it seperately?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Everquest-II-Echoes-Faydwer-PC/dp/B000JXNT24/ref=pd_bbs_1/203-5289826-6855907?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1189123278&sr=8-1
yes, it includes the original game, plus every expansion currently out for eq2.
I have played since day one and I do play on one of the two most populated servers. First wake up call for EQ2 was when game was in its early days and they had to merge all the servers just to have a decent player base on them. For a short while it was a good crowd and you always got a group and there was lots of pvp. There were days you run into tons of people in KoS and DoF and at the same time there would be 2 or 3 Ants/CL and 2 TS's etc.
Its no where near that anymore. All there is is a few raiding guilds on each side at 70 and tons of t2 level lockers. 25-60 is noexistent. You literally have a 0 chance of getting a group and those zones are completely dead aside from botters. New suscribers may be fooled to how active the server is b/c everyone is just playing t2 locked toons. But if someone tells you that the population is like it has always been or better, he either hasn't played the game for long or is completely lieing through his teeth. The game has been declining slowly, I have no doubt of that.
And yah EQ2 may be to in d/l on some site.. but that is the trial guys... and just b/c it was downloaded doesnt mean it is played. Oh and anytime you hear how well suscriber base is diong... don't forget that soe includes Station Pass member as EQ membmer even if they dont play eq.
Yah, the game is gettting old and just not popular anymore.. prob is EQ2 was never really popular and the diehard eq fans playing it will defend it no matter what and really try to make others believe its doing well which is isnt. It isn't doing bad.. but it sure as hell isnt doing well.
Game has too many flaws... and the PvP system is probably one the worst ever devised.... and no game does well w/o a good pvp element.
You need to stay in the WoW forums and stop trying to put down EQ2. At least play the game before you put it down.
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I really haven’t seen too many of those. Most of the rabid anti LoTRO people seem like WoW fanbois to me