I think less tanks, air planes, etc would help a new ps, As a foot soilder it just hard to take out one.
Yup and if you noticed the more vehicles, mechs, and over powered planes they added the more subs kept dropping.
This was reason number one why PS a mmoFPS was not a draw for the FPS crowd. Alot of them wanted a First PERSON shooter and the Planetside devs seemed like they wanted a flight simulator..Which is not really far from the truth since Planetside was originally suppose to be a tank like game early in its development (Got that from one of the original devs)
If anyone knows the link to that post on talking about what Planetside was suppose to be originally please pass up the link. I don't know if Spork posted it a long time ago or that head dev(forgot his name) that left in early 04.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Im also pretty sure we will not see another Planetside, atleast in the near future.
But don't forget SOE is developing that Spy MMO and a few people commented on its first viewing that it appeared to be a FPS style game.
EDIT: Found alot of info about the game including a video on it, they even named it now its called THE AGENCY.. Anyways here it is, looks pretty decent for a game still in ALPHA well the parts we can see.www.tvkon.com/clip-839.html
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Well, if they would have been working on Planetside 2 they probably would have announced that a long time ago. It's not SOE like to keep quiet about their games, especially not a more successfull game like Planetside. But I guess only time will tell...
It was a great game though for so little hype and I don't see why it didnt have more attention/respect because it was a good game. I loved how teamwork and coordination could beat the zergs.
The only thing that could have made the game better in my eyes is instead of the gay ass caverns and bfrs, they should have added an Starship Trooperish alien faction that randomly landed on any of the planets to fight ANY faction, giving the 3 current factions reason to sometimes fight against a common goal.
Also it still urks me that someones face could be well protected as their entire body, and wish they would have added hit boxes for sniper rifles for face shots at least
I would relly love to see Planetside 2... I alwas liked that game, and I never meet person who dislike it. I would love to see Planetside 2 with new ideas like:
Flying Bases: The Base that need to be capture, acessable only by plains
Sea Battles: Sea battles and Sea Base.
Difrent construction: I would like to see every base with difrent constructions.
More vehicle types and more wining conditions
This game has amazing oportunities for being good MMO game, SOE will not use it thou they love geting money and that all they care
SOE needs to something with Planetside, IMO they just need to kill it off and just start over. They really missed up this game IMO.. Planetside was great great game till SOE started to add stuff like the BFRs etc..
BFRs could have been done better. The concept was a great one, they just didn't put much thought into the roles for what they threw in. BFRs varied too much in their roles (from ultimate flying tank to walking coffin).
I don't think BFRs would have killed the game as thoroughly as they did if they did it right. Adding BFR terminals in every base for example?
I don't know, I think it is a great game with or without BFRs.
The biggest problem with Planetside was that there was nothing to make you want to keep coming back, they have two options in my opinion if they make Planetside 2.
1. They add loot, so that you can improve your character overtime, once you had finished leveling the just stood still.
2. They add an actually meaningful strategic element and long term gain/loss in the game world. So that conquering areas actually matters etc.
Planetside had its moments where it felt like the most epic game that I have ever played, and then the nerfs started and I started to get frustrated...The game had some great moments though...nothing really matched up with seeing a giant Planetside base battle, with reavers flying overhead being shot at by turrets, and tanks hurling shells into the base's interior, and then the siege of the interior of the base being led by MAX units....man those were some good times.
That said...SOE will never make Planetside 2...it's just not how they do business.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I'm confident SOE will make a PS2'esque game, maybe that's what the Agency is suppose to be. Though it seems like they are riding on the F2P band wagon instead of the regular subscription based method.
Planetside is still around and there are those who play it come back but since it's PVP the less players there are the less people want to play. There are small base re-secures and that's what the experienced players end up doing most of the time. I like PS and am pretty sure they would make a sequel if SOE was doing a bit better off.
Actually, both SOE and NCSoft are facing some stiff competition with their games from other developers and F2P MMO's so that maybe why they are trying to put out products out there that more directly competes with them. Agency maybe for SOE, although they still have Stationpass games, and NCSoft with Exteel.
I think it maybe another three to four years. I say if they don't announce anything in the next two to four years then probably not. But I think there is a great chance they will if their games do better. They are more than likely struggling to remain profitable with the games they do have. But I'm guessing they broke even with their older titles in term of development cost and are building capital for newer projects on the horizon. The only thing that may spell disaster for a true PS sequel is the Playstation 3 cross-platform features I see them putting in all of their new titles.
Planetside is still an incredible game to play. Ive been at it for over 3 years and never get bored of it. Im sure SOE will develop a new PS2. Game probably would be even more popular if the original devs didnt jump ship. Keep the faith! We need a gunner!
My previous post was a bit harsh. I still fully support this notion. Also BFRs should be replaced with mechs like those in mechwarrior. Same timers though to prevent abuse. I actually want to resubscribe now just to hear that fantastic theme music. You know what I mean.
Planetside 2 would be great. Ive fought some epic battles in PS... usually over some stinkin bridge! But that didnt matter at the time hehe... just awsome repelling an armada of tanks trying to cross it, seeing artillery bombarding the other side while a flock of reavers and libs charging em, tons of infantry and MAXes rushing the bridge followed by our tanks too, then they come at us again..."They shall not pass!", just awsome.
Would it be that hard to do PS2? I mean the foundation is all there, races, weapons, story.... theres no need to write 2000 quests because there are no boring a** quests in PS... just pure action. New engine, scrap that funky cone of fire, add some new air and sea bases, more weapons and vehicles and sprinkle with love. Serve with cold beer and good endgame, bam, insta successimo!
...One can only dream.
"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures."
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From SOE, not a chance. Other games are coming out that use some of Planetside's ideas: MAG (PS3), Welkin, Global Agenda, and The Agency.
Planetside was WAY ahead of its time.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
I would recommend that you take a look at Force of Arms. They are doing some pretty cool stuff. Eventhough its a Mech game the infantry and air side is a huge part of the game as well.
From SOE, not a chance. Other games are coming out that use some of Planetside's ideas: MAG (PS3), Welkin, Global Agenda, and The Agency. Planetside was WAY ahead of its time.
Most of the other MMOFPS coming don't have the same grand scale battles as Planetside. Global Agenda for example just split the agencies up in small task forces, so you're actually playing on maps with 12 vs 12 like Unreal Tournament.
An updated form of PlanetSide could be hugely succesful to be honest.
Heat, pressure and time. The three things that make a diamond, also make a waffle. Also known as Ardanwen.
Would be nice to see a Planetside 2 but I think the pop drops will put them off making another one shame really I loved planetside still do.
I think there are a lot of good points made on this board, but yours is probably the strongest. Sadly the pop drop was entirely due to poor choices on the part of the devs. And their blindness to it being their own fault. But, hind sight is 20/20. The interesting thing that I can say about this game is best described here:
It documents the interesting phenominon that I think is common with most players of PS. More than any other war-game, instilled a true sense of comradery to the level I dare say exists with real-life soldiers (please forgive me for relating the seriousness of real battle to that of a video game) but none the less people recall their time on PS like that of veteran. They have War Stories. Perhaps they dont share them with their grand kids, but at very least they can instantly recall in there own minds huge battles and particular moments and scenarios. Everyone reading this that played PS for any significant period of time during its strong years, can recall one epic situation or another. Here maybe this map will jog some memories:
I played from the early release for 2 years. Climbed in rank and ultimately took over an outfit of 30 serious players. We slickly operated as a quick capture specializaiton platoon. Running multiple syncronized low elevation GAL drops to seal the Tower and CC captures. Ah the memories... good stuff.
I re-subbed 2 years ago and enjoyed it for a month or two, and am about to do it again. The fact of the matter is, there is no other game like it. And coming off of 2 years of the WoW gold/rep rat-race... I'll be happy to return to the simpler full throttle tactical/strategic and yes, frequent zerg of PS.
For this game to be built again though, SOE will have to sell it to someone else. They don't have the sense to look back and see that this game's only failure was their own lack of experience in the genre. And honestly who could blame them for that, after all PS invented the genre. But not learning from the error and seeing th current market's eagerness for something new... that they ought to be ashamed of. Sell it...let someone else do it.
The game was amazing but also ahead of it's time though. With the computer systems we have now adays we can run PS much better than we used to... I too remember the game very well i ended up being Hacker/Gal Pilot. It was a great game and definatly one i would love to see remade. Though i doubt that it will ever be remade, my only hope is that some company comes close to remaking the greatness of PS. So far their has been nothing close to it.
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Yup and if you noticed the more vehicles, mechs, and over powered planes they added the more subs kept dropping.
This was reason number one why PS a mmoFPS was not a draw for the FPS crowd. Alot of them wanted a First PERSON shooter and the Planetside devs seemed like they wanted a flight simulator..Which is not really far from the truth since Planetside was originally suppose to be a tank like game early in its development (Got that from one of the original devs)
If anyone knows the link to that post on talking about what Planetside was suppose to be originally please pass up the link. I don't know if Spork posted it a long time ago or that head dev(forgot his name) that left in early 04.
------------------------------
You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Im also pretty sure we will not see another Planetside, atleast in the near future.
But don't forget SOE is developing that Spy MMO and a few people commented on its first viewing that it appeared to be a FPS style game.
EDIT: Found alot of info about the game including a video on it, they even named it now its called THE AGENCY.. Anyways here it is, looks pretty decent for a game still in ALPHA well the parts we can see.www.tvkon.com/clip-839.html
------------------------------
You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Well, if they would have been working on Planetside 2 they probably would have announced that a long time ago. It's not SOE like to keep quiet about their games, especially not a more successfull game like Planetside. But I guess only time will tell...
First of all PS was never a huge success.
It was a great game though for so little hype and I don't see why it didnt have more attention/respect because it was a good game. I loved how teamwork and coordination could beat the zergs.
The only thing that could have made the game better in my eyes is instead of the gay ass caverns and bfrs, they should have added an Starship Trooperish alien faction that randomly landed on any of the planets to fight ANY faction, giving the 3 current factions reason to sometimes fight against a common goal.
Also it still urks me that someones face could be well protected as their entire body, and wish they would have added hit boxes for sniper rifles for face shots at least
I would relly love to see Planetside 2... I alwas liked that game, and I never meet person who dislike it. I would love to see Planetside 2 with new ideas like:
Flying Bases: The Base that need to be capture, acessable only by plains
Sea Battles: Sea battles
and Sea Base.
Difrent construction: I would like to see every base with difrent constructions.
More vehicle types and more wining conditions
This game has amazing oportunities for being good MMO game, SOE will not use it thou
they love geting money and that all they care
I don't think BFRs would have killed the game as thoroughly as they did if they did it right. Adding BFR terminals in every base for example?
I don't know, I think it is a great game with or without BFRs.
The biggest problem with Planetside was that there was nothing to make you want to keep coming back, they have two options in my opinion if they make Planetside 2.
1. They add loot, so that you can improve your character overtime, once you had finished leveling the just stood still.
2. They add an actually meaningful strategic element and long term gain/loss in the game world. So that conquering areas actually matters etc.
Planetside had its moments where it felt like the most epic game that I have ever played, and then the nerfs started and I started to get frustrated...The game had some great moments though...nothing really matched up with seeing a giant Planetside base battle, with reavers flying overhead being shot at by turrets, and tanks hurling shells into the base's interior, and then the siege of the interior of the base being led by MAX units....man those were some good times.
That said...SOE will never make Planetside 2...it's just not how they do business.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I'm confident SOE will make a PS2'esque game, maybe that's what the Agency is suppose to be. Though it seems like they are riding on the F2P band wagon instead of the regular subscription based method.
Planetside is still around and there are those who play it come back but since it's PVP the less players there are the less people want to play. There are small base re-secures and that's what the experienced players end up doing most of the time. I like PS and am pretty sure they would make a sequel if SOE was doing a bit better off.
Actually, both SOE and NCSoft are facing some stiff competition with their games from other developers and F2P MMO's so that maybe why they are trying to put out products out there that more directly competes with them. Agency maybe for SOE, although they still have Stationpass games, and NCSoft with Exteel.
I think it maybe another three to four years. I say if they don't announce anything in the next two to four years then probably not. But I think there is a great chance they will if their games do better. They are more than likely struggling to remain profitable with the games they do have. But I'm guessing they broke even with their older titles in term of development cost and are building capital for newer projects on the horizon. The only thing that may spell disaster for a true PS sequel is the Playstation 3 cross-platform features I see them putting in all of their new titles.
Words to live by.
Planetside 2? Not likely, and even so, SOE wouldn't be able to do it properly with their fat streak of failures.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE MAKE PLANETSIDE 2!!!!!!!!!!
Uhh... what?
My previous post was a bit harsh. I still fully support this notion. Also BFRs should be replaced with mechs like those in mechwarrior. Same timers though to prevent abuse. I actually want to resubscribe now just to hear that fantastic theme music. You know what I mean.
http://planetside2.com/
Planetside 2 would be great. Ive fought some epic battles in PS... usually over some stinkin bridge! But that didnt matter at the time hehe... just awsome repelling an armada of tanks trying to cross it, seeing artillery bombarding the other side while a flock of reavers and libs charging em, tons of infantry and MAXes rushing the bridge followed by our tanks too, then they come at us again..."They shall not pass!", just awsome.
Would it be that hard to do PS2? I mean the foundation is all there, races, weapons, story.... theres no need to write 2000 quests because there are no boring a** quests in PS... just pure action. New engine, scrap that funky cone of fire, add some new air and sea bases, more weapons and vehicles and sprinkle with love. Serve with cold beer and good endgame, bam, insta successimo!
...One can only dream.
"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures."
Never gonna happen, not by SOE anyway.
Gotta vote no on this, unless it was created for consoles, where it might actually be a bigger success than the first one.
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From SOE, not a chance. Other games are coming out that use some of Planetside's ideas: MAG (PS3), Welkin, Global Agenda, and The Agency.
Planetside was WAY ahead of its time.
MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan
Just passing through this site and forums briefly, so my apologies if this is posted somewhere else.
http://welkin4591.com/
Check it out. Open Beta atm I believe.
I would recommend that you take a look at Force of Arms. They are doing some pretty cool stuff. Eventhough its a Mech game the infantry and air side is a huge part of the game as well.
Most of the other MMOFPS coming don't have the same grand scale battles as Planetside. Global Agenda for example just split the agencies up in small task forces, so you're actually playing on maps with 12 vs 12 like Unreal Tournament.
An updated form of PlanetSide could be hugely succesful to be honest.
Heat, pressure and time. The three things that make a diamond, also make a waffle.
Also known as Ardanwen.
I think there are a lot of good points made on this board, but yours is probably the strongest. Sadly the pop drop was entirely due to poor choices on the part of the devs. And their blindness to it being their own fault. But, hind sight is 20/20. The interesting thing that I can say about this game is best described here:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/09/05/planetside-the-1/
It documents the interesting phenominon that I think is common with most players of PS. More than any other war-game, instilled a true sense of comradery to the level I dare say exists with real-life soldiers (please forgive me for relating the seriousness of real battle to that of a video game) but none the less people recall their time on PS like that of veteran. They have War Stories. Perhaps they dont share them with their grand kids, but at very least they can instantly recall in there own minds huge battles and particular moments and scenarios. Everyone reading this that played PS for any significant period of time during its strong years, can recall one epic situation or another. Here maybe this map will jog some memories:
http://section8server.com/maps/cyssor.jpg
I played from the early release for 2 years. Climbed in rank and ultimately took over an outfit of 30 serious players. We slickly operated as a quick capture specializaiton platoon. Running multiple syncronized low elevation GAL drops to seal the Tower and CC captures. Ah the memories... good stuff.
I re-subbed 2 years ago and enjoyed it for a month or two, and am about to do it again. The fact of the matter is, there is no other game like it. And coming off of 2 years of the WoW gold/rep rat-race... I'll be happy to return to the simpler full throttle tactical/strategic and yes, frequent zerg of PS.
For this game to be built again though, SOE will have to sell it to someone else. They don't have the sense to look back and see that this game's only failure was their own lack of experience in the genre. And honestly who could blame them for that, after all PS invented the genre. But not learning from the error and seeing th current market's eagerness for something new... that they ought to be ashamed of. Sell it...let someone else do it.
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I agree with what was said above,
The game was amazing but also ahead of it's time though. With the computer systems we have now adays we can run PS much better than we used to... I too remember the game very well i ended up being Hacker/Gal Pilot. It was a great game and definatly one i would love to see remade. Though i doubt that it will ever be remade, my only hope is that some company comes close to remaking the greatness of PS. So far their has been nothing close to it.
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I Demand another Planetside!
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Didn't some company make a new Planetside? I think it was called a different name, but people referred to it as Planetside 2.