Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
would my pc handle this game
seb1001
Member Posts: 10
Hi all,
as the title states i was wondering if my pc would handle this game at all.
My Pc specs are as follows:
| Processor: | Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz (2 CPUs) |
|---|---|
| Memory: | 1022MB RAM |
| Hard Drive: | 156 GB |
| Video Card: | RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory |
Thanks in advance for any answers
Seb.
Comments
Your hard drive space makes no difference btw (well, not any visible anyway).
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I see several issues...it has been stated on the LOTRO forums over and over ad nauseam that the minimum to run the game well is 2 gigs of ram...not really an issue, as it is inexpensive..
But, you also have the x600 hypermemory...this vid card fools you into thinking it has 256mb of ram, when in actuality, it uses system memory, and not "actual" on board video ram...this is MUCH slower, and of course, takas away from your system memory needed.
http://ati.amd.com/technology/hypermemory.html
So...basically your looking at a video card upgrade AND a memory upgrade...to run it even..
Get at least a 7900 or 7950 Nvidia card or an x1900 model ATI...and add that extra gig..
Good luck!
I see several issues...it has been stated on the LOTRO forums over and over ad nauseam that the minimum to run the game well is 2 gigs of ram...not really an issue, as it is inexpensive..
But, you also have the x600 hypermemory...this vid card fools you into thinking it has 256mb of ram, when in actuality, it uses system memory, and not "actual" on board video ram...this is MUCH slower, and of course, takas away from your system memory needed.
http://ati.amd.com/technology/hypermemory.html
So...basically your looking at a video card upgrade AND a memory upgrade...to run it even..
Get at least a 7900 or 7950 Nvidia card or an x1900 model ATI...and add that extra gig..
Good luck!
Well, the GPU could use an upgrade, but the game DOES NOT need more than 1G ram to run nicely.
I played it with 1GB ram for months, and outside Bree I had no slowdowns/stutter at all, ever.
Now that I have 2 GB RAM, I am still having exactly the same slowing down in Bree
anyway.
I still say that his PC will be able to run it - but at least a GPU change would be adviseable. A radeon 2600 or a gef 8600 would be a good choice - they are cheap too.
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I see several issues...it has been stated on the LOTRO forums over and over ad nauseam that the minimum to run the game well is 2 gigs of ram...not really an issue, as it is inexpensive..
But, you also have the x600 hypermemory...this vid card fools you into thinking it has 256mb of ram, when in actuality, it uses system memory, and not "actual" on board video ram...this is MUCH slower, and of course, takas away from your system memory needed.
http://ati.amd.com/technology/hypermemory.html
So...basically your looking at a video card upgrade AND a memory upgrade...to run it even..
Get at least a 7900 or 7950 Nvidia card or an x1900 model ATI...and add that extra gig..
Good luck!
Well, the GPU could use an upgrade, but the game DOES NOT need more than 1G ram to run nicely.
I played it with 1GB ram for months, and outside Bree I had no slowdowns/stutter at all, ever.
Now that I have 2 GB RAM, I am still having exactly the same slowing down in Bree
anyway.
I still say that his PC will be able to run it - but at least a GPU change would be adviseable. A radeon 2600 or a gef 8600 would be a good choice - they are cheap too.
DB
I basically suggested what has been stated "AD NAUSEAM" in the LOTRO forums...2 gigs to run the game smoothly with as little swap file access as possible.
And why recommend the newer video cards for his obviously "older" system...when
http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/613766-can-geforce-8600-run-300w.html
He will then have to upgrade his power supply as well...if he has not already...by the look of his system specs, I would assume that this system is a named computer...for example a Dell or Acer or HP...etc, etc..
If money is no object, then certainly...go for the 8600 or 2600...but, you will get better performance out of the 7900 or x1900 for less
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=639
http://www.nvnews.net/previews/geforce_8600_gts/page_4.shtml
and Reason not to buy an 8x series card yet
http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/581678-video-cards-8000s-vs-7900s.html
Cheers!
TE 2.5 and later scale very gracefully with system capabilities. The answer is definately YES. Of course some of the bells and whistles may need to be traded off for some extra fps , but in general it very playabe even on such a grandad of a pc as Athlon XP2000+ with 1.5gigs of DDR333 ram and ancient dustballl coughing Nvidia 5700Ultra on medium settings. My primary system right now is none too stellar either Athlon X2 3800 EE 4 Gigs of PC-5200 ram and moderately priced MSI NVidia 8600 GT OTC 256MB which allows me to confortably play LOTRO at "ultra high" settings
I call bull on your claim of "Ultra High" on that 8600..
Just read this review today
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM4OSw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
[QUOTE] Unfortunately these mainstream video cards do not have the performance to allow us to run at very high texture detail, defeating the purpose of a large amount of RAM on a mainstream GPU. [/quote]
And this was on a 512mb model...
High was JUST playable on a 7950GT, a 5600+ AMD dual core and with 2 gigs of ram...
So, unless your comfortable at 15FPS...I just dont see it
But, hey good try...why not post your .ini file instead, and lets see if your "really" at ultra high...
Again...79x series card...best bet
I call bull on your claim of "Ultra High" on that 8600..
Just read this review today
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM4OSw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
[QUOTE] Unfortunately these mainstream video cards do not have the performance to allow us to run at very high texture detail, defeating the purpose of a large amount of RAM on a mainstream GPU. [/quote]
And this was on a 512mb model...
High was JUST playable on a 7950GT, a 5600+ AMD dual core and with 2 gigs of ram...
So, unless your comfortable at 15FPS...I just dont see it
But, hey good try...why not post your .ini file instead, and lets see if your "really" at ultra high...
Again...79x series card...best bet
Mate,
First of all, a 61.4 average FPS is something I think we can relatively safely call "flawless".
Secondly, I have an X850XT which is a 3 year old card and I am running LOTRO on HIGH settings... FPS is 40-70 outdoors, 120+ indorrs.
A 8600 should run it flawlessly on max settings with a medium CPU and 2GB RAM.
The fact, that it runs bad on _your_ PC and some other configs with a powerful VGA, does NOT mean that it couldn't run lightning fast on other configs with an 8600.
I am using your own reasoning... if we accept what YOU are saying - however improbable it may sound - i don't see why you shouldn't accept the truth coming from other people's experience.
BTW - have you checked the LOTRO vs EQ2 performance posts? In this forum, and in the EQ2 forum too...
(hint: yes, LOTRO is ahead in both... i think it's time you stopped playing Don Quijote...)
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I call bull on your claim of "Ultra High" on that 8600..
Just read this review today
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM4OSw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
[QUOTE] Unfortunately these mainstream video cards do not have the performance to allow us to run at very high texture detail, defeating the purpose of a large amount of RAM on a mainstream GPU. [/quote]
And this was on a 512mb model...
High was JUST playable on a 7950GT, a 5600+ AMD dual core and with 2 gigs of ram...
So, unless your comfortable at 15FPS...I just dont see it
But, hey good try...why not post your .ini file instead, and lets see if your "really" at ultra high...
Again...79x series card...best bet
Mate,
First of all, a 61.4 average FPS is something I think we can relatively safely call "flawless".
Secondly, I have an X850XT which is a 3 year old card and I am running LOTRO on HIGH settings... FPS is 40-70 outdoors, 120+ indorrs.
A 8600 should run it flawlessly on max settings with a medium CPU and 2GB RAM.
The fact, that it runs bad on _your_ PC and some other configs with a powerful VGA, does NOT mean that it couldn't run lightning fast on other configs with an 8600.
I am using your own reasoning... if we accept what YOU are saying - however improbable it may sound - i don't see why you shouldn't accept the truth coming from other people's experience.
BTW - have you checked the LOTRO vs EQ2 performance posts? In this forum, and in the EQ2 forum too...
(hint: yes, LOTRO is ahead in both... i think it's time you stopped playing Don Quijote...)
DB
But the fact is...this is not my reasoning, but a reputable review site with the facts..
All I did was answered the post from the user with "Ultra High" and an 8600 and a 3800+ cpu...and just called his bluff on that one..
Lets stick with cold hard data then...
The fact the reviewers cannot run it with "Ultra" ...I still stick by my recommendation...that a 79x series card will perform better than the 8600...
A 7950GT runs 1280x720 at a decent clip with 60FPS...and a decent 5600+ cpu with 2 gigs...only on high...
As well my 8800GTS ran the game up to 120FPS...but dips down to 5-10...as the game has so many spots causing hiccups...again on high!
The 79x can run the game with 4x AA and 8x AF...compared to no AA and 16AF on the 8600...there is also going to be a major difference in visual quality. Finally, the OP's system will have a BETTER chance of having a 7950 run with his current power supply, than an 8600 as well.
I will also call you on your benches...what do you call "indoors" Not in Bree I hope. I would love to see you in the crafting hall, at 1280x1024 (considered the standard at this time) and tell me you get 120+ FPS...and what tool did you use exactly to get these benches?
Lets use the 6800 model series of video card as that is the only card available with LOTRO benchmarks on the low end that is close to the x850 (close but x850 is better)
Benchmarks here : http://news.firingsquad.com/matrix/blog.asp/12941/278/Lord_of_the_Rings_Online:_Shadows_of_Angmar_-_NVIDIA_6800_Guide
Note he is getting about 24.5 FPS on Very High and maxing at 46 on High...now add about 20FPS for the X850 (that is generous actually)
http://www.hardware-aktuell.com/viewtest.php?article=6&page=8 (chart showing comparitive benches of the 6800 and x850)
Really...I could go on...but, these are all facts...and your calling me out on the facts I am presenting? I am Improbable? It's like someone saying "Here is a $1000 bucks" and they hold it up, count it in front of you, and you still say "No...it is $10000"
You want to see something better, but too much proof exists otherwise....
I again am sorry that you continually have an issue with all the facts I present...but, really, all ya gotta do is read the websites...there is your proof...don't believe me, believe the written words...
OP...trust me on this one...read these reviews...and then finally, check this..
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?PHPSESSID=dd3325e49001d8f905334591552a9932
Do your own comparison and ignore us...as we both just agree to disagree on this...oh, and good luck!
Cheers!
(HINT: Both run the same is actually ahead...where did you learn to read polls again?)
Ok, I understand you know. When you write any of your experiences, that is a fact. If someone else writes another kind of experience, that is lying or BS. My apologies, I should have never started to argue with Mr. Almighty.
Too bad you need to spin even the smallest things. The poll on EQ2 has the most percentage on "about the same", but besides that: there are more votes on LOTRO than on EQ2.... so? I know, it is hard for a GOD to admit to have been wrong....
Really, people should grow up. I'm done here
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
BTW I _do_ get 120+ FPS in the crafting call, and even in the AH. Once all the textures/names loaded (takes 1-4 seconds), there is no glitch at all.
(I still wonder what the hell benchmarks for games like FEAR have to do with LOTRO's performance on any PC... lol dude this is desperate and really weird too
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I am sorry you need to be this way...why make this thread about EQ2, I will never understand...
It is about the OP's system, and his needs.
All I have done is given written facts, and you still continue to attack me...not sure if your hurt over the results or what..
1. The reason for the FEAR benchmark was NOT for FEAR, but to show the difference in performance between the 6800 and x850 in FPS (showing the 10-15 FPS difference)...as I corroborate my findings.
2. I still do not believe the 120+ FPS on an x850 in the Crafting Hall...and you still did not show me which tool you used to garner those numbers...while I have data from my benchmark program showing the results of my benchmarks...proof speaks truer data...and I have anecdotal proof...you have...your word..
3. You point out MORE votes were for LOTRO in the EQ2 forum...when in fact it was ABOUT THE SAME...YOU were attempting to spin the truth and twist it for your purposes...I also can see that LOTRO has more votes than EQ2 as well there...that was not your statement..you said LOTRO was ahead, and I just needed to correct your improper wording.
4. Speaking of that...Don Quixote is the proper spelling
You seem to be taking my data quite personally, and I am not sure why. I posted here to help the OP, and all you done is turn this thread into a hate post...
Again, I state to the OP, take the time to read the reviews, check benchmarks, compare the cards using the one site I mentioned...and I hope you have success in your endeavors!
Cheers!
Ok, my last try
1. You called someone's report on LOTRO's performance on his own PC bullshit in this thread.
2. You are calling your own experience as FACT (i.e.: true for everyone, this is the definion of "fact".) Everyone else's opinion is irrelevant in your own world of arguing.
3. Benchmarks on different gfx cards for other games has little to nothing to do with LOTRO's performance on specific configs with specific GPU's. You wrote it yourself: "It is the about the OP's system, and his needs" - then why all these other GPU's and benchmarks?? What are you trying to prove?
4. Lotro is a better performer game than EQ2, according to BOTH polls. It won by a huge percent in the lotro forum and win by a marginal 8% against EQ2 in the EQ2 forum. The "runs about the same" posts count as neutral. It is hard to believe someone cannot grasp that. The "runs about the same" can be counted as post for BOTH or for NONE. I have still faith in your common sense, therefore logically you are _acting_ as if you didn't understood this. So much for personal reasons...
5. You do not believe what i am posting - fair enough. You do not believe anyone's posting as long as they are saying that lotro runs like a dream. Interestingly I have no issues believing that it runs badly on your PC. It must have a reason.... which one of us is tolerant and open to arguments?
6. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quijote_de_la_Mancha - both "j" and "x" are correct. Do your research before posting next time...
If it looks personal or not - irrelevant. I just like to pinpoint obvious flaws of logic and flatout lies. Keep on and you will provide lots of entertainment (although I have to admit it is getting too easy
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Ok...let me try again...as I still believe your only intent is to attack, and not to garner facts here
1. All data (not my own data...but reputable sites) even state performance with "Ultra High" is non-playable..I have an even better card as well as several friends (so again ...not MY data) that have issues running at "Ultra High"...I never said he is not running it...I just believe he is not running it well, and wanted proof to that fact.
2. The only experience I am using is my skill as a researcher (my job) PC knowledge (my job)....but I also do not state data lightly without facts to back it up...I can provide all DATA to prove performance...but, they are not "facts" unless proven...and again, I have done that...as not only is my performance provable, but is MATCHED by the reputable sites as well....You have yet to prove anything except the capability to start and cause arguments.
3. But, the performance DOES have everything to do with comparable benchmarks. Yes, technology is different in various games...but, by showing how the performance of one title shows the variation of two cards, this can be spread across other titles as well..and in all actuality, LOTRO performance has been shown to be much worse with up to 50-100FPS drops as a user plays, compared to 10-20 FPS drops in another title...my evidence actually is being kind...and if you wish, I can SHOW you the data to prove this...but I doubt you would read it, as you probably have not read any of my previous "data" culled from reputable sites.
4. Again, the polls are not scientific...you have posted a poll in an LOTRO forum where "fanboyism" is a proven with inaccurate posts of their performance with zero proof, yet I believe the EQ2 forums have been more truthful...where they show it may be the same, and even LOTRO may be better for some...but again...this does not prove anything...why? As it has been shown that performance is steadier and better for older hardware which EQ2 does not play well with...If a poll was shown with all 79x or 8x series Nvidia cards and asked which runs better, your answers will be different...as well, your answers would be different in a GW forum, etc.. Again, this poll as one previous poster stated "Is inaccurate" as the playability of a title proves it's success more than "How fast does my computer run it"...so votes will veer based on a users impressions.
5. Reason I do not believe is from actual culled data, personal experience, discussion with other players of LOTRO that took place in game...it is not JUST MY thoughts. Also...Zero facts have been proven here, while I base my conclusions based on real data gathered...again...I would love to be proven wrong...and I will even state that I believe the game could run well for you or any other...it is the larger than life results that I question...Your stating that an x850 runs better than an 8800GTS...I will call false on that...and if my results for other games were as bad as LOTRO's, then I would question my hardware or software installed...and the fact that EQ2 DOES run better, again forces me to question the authenticity of your statements. As well...newer games with better technology even run better for myself...that is reason I question these results stated here.
6. I am sorry that I am an english speaking citizen and as such I was unaware of the "Spanish" pronunciation, so you have me there. I will work on my Spanish a little more...I apologize...I also noted this little tidbit...
Quixote is the original spelling in medieval Castilian, and is used in English. However, modern Spanish has since gone through spelling reforms and phonetic changes which have turned the x into j.
So this also sounds like a recent change...guess I am showing my age, in that when I was in school (45 years old this year), they used the proper spelling...but, thank you for that tidbit, and for "proving" that data. I accept being wrong on this point gladly.
So...really, the obvious "flaws" you mention is a persons statements...we each have statements...just which is backed with hard cold factual data pulled from various resources vs. hey.."I say this"...I think I would see the flaw here...
And the "fact" that you VEERED this discussion into this type of arena still shows some apprehension on your side...attacks and discussing other threads in this thread where a simple question was asked shows that "fanboyism", and is questionable at best...
Cheers!
Thanks for playing out the "fanboy" card, it was sooner than I expected
argument is over, now whatever I say must be a lie, since I am a "fanboy". I accept this as a compliment, and that you have admitted you're out of valid points.
(BTW using age and job as "emphasizing" your own points is a bit sad.... but I understand this is the only FACT that you could still use for "arguing". )
"1. All data (not my own data...but reputable sites) even state performance with "Ultra High" is non-playable"
Ok, so you have the whole internet saved on your hard drive, and you have every single data on LOTRO and the Ultra-High settings. If this is true, I understand that you are right. Otherwise... c'mon
(BTW I don't speak a word of Spanish, except for Cerveza
... I mean man, get real! You (wrongly) attacked my spelling, and now at the and I am the one who is pulling "tidbits", and attacking you?? Oh, look I am "bending" hard cold facts again...
I am not attacking - if you feel that proving the invalidity of your points is attacking, you must have lost all contact with real people
Your "reputable" sites are not a tad more closer to "FACTS" than a lot of player's experience that has been written down in forums or elsewhere. It is YOUR decision to believe whoever you want to believe. It does NOT make it a FACT. You know, it usually comes with maturity that people are able to make their own opinion base on their own experiences.
But iif one's own experience is not enoguh, you can also do POLLS (which, we have talked over enough I believe - I never said they are scientific, I just said that BOTH of them proved that LOTRO performs better than EQ2. I know it's hard, but that is just about the only FACT that has been proven on these boards. I know it hurts, but live with it, will you?
Now let's see if you can put in more links that have absolutely nothing do with how LOTRO will run on the OP's PC, and maybe we can keep this entertainin thread alive some more
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
I only have 1 gig of Ram and the game runs fine for me (settings on high) Bree Town can be a tad laggy sometimes but its not gamebreaking by any means. (im using a 7600 GT Card)
I see several issues...it has been stated on the LOTRO forums over and over ad nauseam that the minimum to run the game well is 2 gigs of ram...not really an issue, as it is inexpensive..
But, you also have the x600 hypermemory...this vid card fools you into thinking it has 256mb of ram, when in actuality, it uses system memory, and not "actual" on board video ram...this is MUCH slower, and of course, takas away from your system memory needed.
http://ati.amd.com/technology/hypermemory.html
So...basically your looking at a video card upgrade AND a memory upgrade...to run it even..
Get at least a 7900 or 7950 Nvidia card or an x1900 model ATI...and add that extra gig..
Good luck!
I only have 1 gig of Ram and the game runs fine for me (settings on high) Bree Town can be a tad laggy sometimes but its not gamebreaking by any means. (im using a 7600 GT Card)
That sounds reasonable to me...it runs "fine" is a perfect statement...and it would make sense...the 7x series of cards are good...and if you get a decent 30 FPS rate, then your rocking...
You should give another gig a try and see how your system plays out...you may be surprised...
Cheers!
[quote]Originally posted by openedge1
That sounds reasonable to me...it runs "fine" is a perfect statement...and it would make sense...the 7x series of cards are good...and if you get a decent 30 FPS rate, then your rocking...
You should give another gig a try and see how your system plays out...you may be surprised...
Cheers![/b][/quote]
I'm going to build a new rig in Jan/Feb (for Warhammers Launch) Tho I definitely will have at the minimum 2 gigs of ram
I have a P4 2.8ghz, 2Gig Ram, Radeon x1600 256 mb and I run the game fine on Ultra High graphics.
It's very easy on machines.
_____________________________
Currently Playing: LOTRO; DDO
Played: AC2, AO, Auto Assault, CoX, DAoC, DDO, Earth&Beyond, EQ1, EQ2, EVE, Fallen Earth, Jumpgate, Roma Victor, Second Life, SWG, V:SoH, WoW, World War II Online.
Games I'm watching: Infinity: The Quest for Earth, Force of Arms.
Find the Truth: http://www.factcheck.org/
I will assume you do not have high res textures installed or on then...as Ultra High would bring my 8800 to it's knee's...but that turned on High Res for me as I had them installed. Not such a good idea...
Glad the game is running ok for you...just would not work with my high end system..
Cheers!