i was thinking of trying this game... i got a few questions please

Darsemacabre

okay, right now i play wow,  my character is to the point where there isnt alot left for me to do...

so im looking for a new mmorpg, i downloeaded city of heroes for a free trial, and had probs with that, HATED  thier support and im currently looking for another mmorpg to play in addition to wow,  ddo is currently front runner on the list but i have some noob questions about it.

 

1. does it have a free trial program? if it does, is it only from a friend that already has the disks?

2. are the classes/ feats/ races pretty much all included.. i know the basic classes are of course going to be here but there is like 100 classes/prestige classes and i was wondering how many the game included?

3. what is the pvp like (assuming there is any)? is it faction based? is there arenas? battlegrounds?

4. is there some other rpg i should be considering playing... ddo is the current front runner for my quest for a new mmo because ive been playing d+d since i was like like 5, so about 2 decades now

5. what is the current level cap? how long does it take to reach it?

6. any advice you can think of for this game or my quest to find a new one to play would be helpful 

 

Thillian

Originally posted by Darsemacabre


okay, right now i play wow,  my character is to the point where there isnt alot left for me to do...
so im looking for a new mmorpg, i downloeaded city of heroes for a free trial, and had probs with that, HATED  thier support and im currently looking for another mmorpg to play in addition to wow,  ddo is currently front runner on the list but i have some noob questions about it.
 
1. does it have a free trial program? if it does, is it only from a friend that already has the disks?
Yes free-trial is downloadable from their official website www.ddo.com ( www.ddo-europe.com )
2. are the classes/ feats/ races pretty much all included.. i know the basic classes are of course going to be here but there is like 100 classes/prestige classes and i was wondering how many the game included?
There are 6 races and 9 classes. Until the end of the year there should be one more race added plus a monk class. The number of feats is around 120. Pretty much all that you can find for D&D player handbook plus around 40 new. Most of the non-combat skills also included like swim, jump, open lock... Plus there's a huge list of enhancments you can buy for action points (addition to what D&D pnp has to offer)
3. what is the pvp like (assuming there is any)? is it faction based? is there arenas? battlegrounds?
Only tavern brawls and small arena fights. No other meaning to it, no pvp factions, no ranks. Just to be able to duel someone.
4. is there some other rpg i should be considering playing... ddo is the current front runner for my quest for a new mmo because ive been playing d+d since i was like like 5, so about 2 decades now
5. what is the current level cap? how long does it take to reach it?
Level cap is 14 and takes around 8-15 played days to reach it for a newcommer. Experienced players can make it within a week played.
6. any advice you can think of for this game or my quest to find a new one to play would be helpful 
 DDO is all about the FPS combat style and the beatiful designed dungeons. There is no traveling, no crafting its not the kind of MMORPG you are used to play. It's unique in many many ways. You either can be heavily disappointed or you will enjoy it as I do.

 

star

I can answer a few of your questions. My will probably not be totally up to date as I haven't played in ages.

Originally posted by Darsemacabre


okay, right now i play wow,  my character is to the point where there isnt alot left for me to do...
so im looking for a new mmorpg, i downloeaded city of heroes for a free trial, and had probs with that, HATED  thier support and im currently looking for another mmorpg to play in addition to wow,  ddo is currently front runner on the list but i have some noob questions about it.
 
1. does it have a free trial program? if it does, is it only from a friend that already has the disks?
Yes, there is a trial. http://trial.ddo.com
2. are the classes/ feats/ races pretty much all included.. i know the basic classes are of course going to be here but there is like 100 classes/prestige classes and i was wondering how many the game included?
Acutally, not all of the base classes are included -- you cannot play Monks or Druids. There are no prestige classes, but you can Multiclass with up to three classes.
3. what is the pvp like (assuming there is any)? is it faction based? is there arenas? battlegrounds?
Coming from WoW, you're likely to be somewhat disapointed with the PvP DDO has to offer. It's fairly lackluster.
4. is there some other rpg i should be considering playing... ddo is the current front runner for my quest for a new mmo because ive been playing d+d since i was like like 5, so about 2 decades now
Depends. If you like instanced games with PvP, head over to GW. If you like WoWs gameplay try LotR:O.
5. what is the current level cap? how long does it take to reach it?
I'm pretty sure level cap is 14, and each level is broken up into 4 sub-levels.
6. any advice you can think of for this game or my quest to find a new one to play would be helpful 
I really wouldn't reccomend this game. Combat is fun, but after replaying instance after instance, it gets dull. I was in both the Closed and Open betas, and played for a few months after launch, but it's really not worth paying for.
I'd reccomend LotR:O if you like WoW, or GW if you want to try something a little different.
Good luck 
 

Anyone else who's played recently, please feel free to correct me!

Sevenwind

The two posters above me gave excellent replies. DDO truely is a love it or hate it game in my opinion.

Just want to add. The trial does NOT have the high-res textures from the download trial. If you find you like the game and want to stick with it I would suggest grabbing a copy off amazon or somewhere real cheap just to get the high-res textures. I purchased my DDO for 15 dollars off amazon.

I think the game looks 100x better with high-res textures installed. If your computer can handle it.

Goodluck finding that WoW alternative!

Darsemacabre

thx for all the advice

Talyn

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Originally posted by star.buck
I really wouldn't reccomend this game. Combat is fun, but after replaying instance after instance, it gets dull.

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But replaying raid instance after raid instance in all the other MMO's does NOT get dull?

Not bashing, but I just boggle when people say that about DDO or GW or whatever, then they rush off to WoW because they have another raid...

daelnor

I think DDO is a good game for casual players, i.e. if you wanna pop in for an hour or two and do a couple quests. Other than that I lost interest in a couple weeks.

*note...I have not played in a long time, so a lot has changed that I don't know about.

D.

Vincenz

Couple things I'd disagree with...

 

1. Repeating instances.  This is a CHOICE, not a requirement.  You can level up just fine without repeating hardly anything, but peopl choose to grind certain quests because of high reward to risk ratios.

2. Levelling to cap in 8-14 days.  Absolutely not, unless you're crushing 6-8 hours a day and have experienced players twinking you with gear and advice.  Additionally, as of today, all the Gianthold quest exp is halved...so no more level 8 to level 14 in a weekend stuff.

Thillian

Originally posted by Vincenz


 
2. Levelling to cap in 8-14 days.  Absolutely not, unless you're crushing 6-8 hours a day and have experienced players twinking you with gear and advice.  Additionally, as of today, all the Gianthold quest exp is halved...so no more level 8 to level 14 in a weekend stuff.

I said 8-14 played days, not real days (thats like 192 - 332 hours)

Vincenz

AHHHH...OK, gotcha, that I'd definitely agree with then.

 

BTW, for new players?  DO NOT RUSH TO THE CAP!  You're missing 80% of the game.

scottishgoth

well i have to agree with vincenz (now thats a first since the guy doesnt even play ddo, yea dude i checked no one has ever heard of you)  if you fast level you will miss just about all the game has to offer.  however...  if you know what you are doing and have a full group to do it with you.  you can very easily take six charaters from level 1 to level 14 in four days.  here is how it is done:

you start with the good blade quests normal then hard then elite.  just one run through on each dificulty level. 

next is the low road again normal then hard then elite.  at this point you are about an hour into the game and you are now at level 3

now you go over to good old ozgoods basment.  three times on normal three on hard then three on elite.

next you do waterworks again three times on normal three on hard and three on elite.  now you are level 5 but dont level play blue untill you are finished with the entire run.  once done you are about 6 to 8 hours into the game and now level 5

now its over to STK normal three times then hard three times then elite three times.

now deleras tomb again normal three times then hard three times then elite three times.  now you are level 8 at this point you about 10 to 12 or so hours into the game.

now you head off to threnal ruins (i think i am spelling that wrong) each set three times on each dif level this is a really long one so it can take you about 6 hours to finish this set of runs but now that you can heal NPCs its way easy.  this puts you at level 10 and you are now less than 20 hours into the game.

next set you start to be able to have fun.  you get to run stuff like pop and madstone once you have done all of them in that area you are well into level 14 and at less than 30 hours of game play.

now i do not recomend this at all.  you will miss the best dungeon DDO has as well as you will not have much fun.  all of the grind kinda sucks and is very boring.  now some people like to put some other runs into this like doing tangleroot a few times at level 5ish but it depends on your group. 

 

 

 

Vincenz

Three things...

1. Goth neglects to take into consideration that as of today, again, Gianthold is 50% less exp or more.

2. If you check Sarlona and ask anyone in Guildless, Allegiance of Blades, or several other guilds they'll know quite well who I am.  I am not Vincenz in game, I am Lucienz, Jacienz, Merlinz, and others. 

3. Where's our screenshots of your max favor or imaginary weapon?  We've been waiting with baited breath.

 

Levelling to the cap in 4 days is damn near impossible, regardless of what goth says, and a huge mistake to even attempt it.

Vincenz

p.s. My almost 5000 posts on the main forums may also be a hint

http://forums.ddo.com/member.php?u=32560

 

EDIT: btw, several of the quests he suggests doing normal/hard/elite and the levels he suggests doing them at are pretty much impossible.

gracefield

 

Sorry, I just to reply to this - absolute rubbish. This is just about the worst game there is for casual players. There is no virtual world to roam around, instead it's a big city. And almost all the quests require you to group, which means most of the time you are hanging around trying to find a group. In my experience, that isn't easy in DDO, which means you have to hang around and be bored stiff.

The game itself looks great and plays very well. It's also full of content and very well constructed. It just isn't solo-friendly or casual-friendly at all. That poster is wrong.

Also, I played this when it came out and it was full of fun, helpful and mature players. On my last visit, it was full of cheeky, impatient little teenage jerks who were just about as far from the traditional D&D gaming culture as it was possible to get.

Originally posted by daelnor


I think DDO is a good game for casual players, i.e. if you wanna pop in for an hour or two and do a couple quests. Other than that I lost interest in a couple weeks.
*note...I have not played in a long time, so a lot has changed that I don't know about.
D.

 

Vincenz

Pre-merge, grouping had become more difficult...which is why they did the merge.  If you can't find a group almost instantly now, you're doing something very wrong...at all levels.

gracefield

Originally posted by Vincenz


Pre-merge, grouping had become more difficult...which is why they did the merge.  If you can't find a group almost instantly now, you're doing something very wrong...at all levels.

Yes, I'm afraid I must admit my last visit was a good few months ago. What's the merge?

Thillian

Originally posted by gracefield


 
Sorry, I just to reply to this - absolute rubbish. This is just about the worst game there is for casual players. There is no virtual world to roam around, instead it's a big city. And almost all the quests require you to group, which means most of the time you are hanging around trying to find a group. In my experience, that isn't easy in DDO, which means you have to hang around and be bored stiff.
The game itself looks great and plays very well. It's also full of content and very well constructed. It just isn't solo-friendly or casual-friendly at all. That poster is wrong.
Also, I played this when it came out and it was full of fun, helpful and mature players. On my last visit, it was full of cheeky, impatient little teenage jerks who were just about as far from the traditional D&D gaming culture as it was possible to get.
Originally posted by daelnor


I think DDO is a good game for casual players, i.e. if you wanna pop in for an hour or two and do a couple quests. Other than that I lost interest in a couple weeks.
*note...I have not played in a long time, so a lot has changed that I don't know about.
D.

 

I can't imagine more casual-friendly game. There are dungeons that can be done in 5-10 minutes. Finding a group takes up to 5mins (10 at max for not very popular dungeons) mostly because of the great LFG system.

 

Vincenz

Server Merge Information Here:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1254605&postcount=1

monkeyspy

Also not sure if this is a problem, but you will have to supply a valid credit card number for the 10 day trial.  At least the last time my friend checked when he wanted to join me, and that was about a month ago.