For a game that is suppose to come out in a couple of months and form every forum I visit people complains about bad control and aiming and that different parts of game not being ready yet and then in other forums it just praises about how good it is.
Well, I got my key from fileplanet played for 3 hours and in my humble opinion it needs a lot of work and in the expert opinion of my 14 year old “junk”
For a game that is suppose to come out in a couple of months and form every forum I visit people complains about bad control and aiming and that different parts of game not being ready yet and then in other forums it just praises about how good it is.
Well, I got my key from fileplanet played for 3 hours and in my humble opinion it needs a lot of work and in the expert opinion of my 14 year old “junk”
I fail to see how your 14 year old junk would have anything to do with this particular MMO at all.
Well I agree with you, as usual Linna, we can only hope they get minor tidbits and other core aspects (not particularly core gameplay in general ftw) fixed. I'm pretty glad they've decided to extend the beta, and I have a feeling if they don't feel they completed everything they'd do it again. Now I know another postponing of the game is slim, but then again, I'm sure everyone is still surprised they delayed it at all. At least I get a few more weeks of free play time though The first line of my post was a joke by the way.
I got the beta off of Fileplanet and it says open beta so that means your allowed to talk about it. However i dunno what they were trying to achieve because it feels like a cheap poorly made action game similar to SWG's NGE. If i wanted to play a action game i'd go play Gears of War or something which actually has alot of polish and quality, this game just feels like it was made in 1995 withg raphics from 2000 lol. If this game doesn't flop harder than AA then i'll be suprised, seems like NCsoft can't create a good mmorpg and GW isn't a mmo.
You should consider opposition party politics as a profession one day. You scream something is wrong then have absolutely nothing to say to back it up.
It was boring, derivative and redundant. The UI is horrible and the aiming system is abhorrent. There was no apparent depth at all. It simply was not a fun experience and I do not see it holding peoples interest over a long period of time.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
But if I only go in a game and attack things, regardless of the game I would say exactly what you are saying. Redundent, boring, same thing over and over again.
You are describing astroids or space invaders 30 years ago. They did not have a story or reason either except to get the highest score.
What about the story? What about grouping? What about ALLLL the other aspects in the game BESIDES killing things??
I would really like to hear from more people that have played the game and can actually give an unbias review, not what I see the most and that is people saying the killing is boring.
Sadly i agree i have been in Beta for quite some time and i think this game will fail.. That being said i must add that I had tremondous hopes for this game for years .Being a huge fan of Garriot and Longs work with UO i was really excited when i learned they were workin on this a few years ago ..
It kept my intrest very briefly then just started to find it boring maybe with some time it may become better ...
For a game that is suppose to come out in a couple of months and form every forum I visit people complains about bad control and aiming and that different parts of game not being ready yet and then in other forums it just praises about how good it is.
Well, I got my key from fileplanet played for 3 hours and in my humble opinion it needs a lot of work and in the expert opinion of my 14 year old “junk”
3hrs is not enough to determine if a game is bad or not.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day. And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD
Right now all mmos are pretty much the same. Run around do quest kill stuff. I cant think of a mmo where you dont do that in some way. Persoanly it cant be worsed then wow since so many quest have a crappy drop rate.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day. And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD
But if I only go in a game and attack things, regardless of the game I would say exactly what you are saying. Redundent, boring, same thing over and over again. You are describing astroids or space invaders 30 years ago. They did not have a story or reason either except to get the highest score. What about the story? What about grouping? What about ALLLL the other aspects in the game BESIDES killing things?? I would really like to hear from more people that have played the game and can actually give an unbias review, not what I see the most and that is people saying the killing is boring.
Sorry son, but if EVERYONE says its boring, it pretty much is. Go read a review on a real site then, this obviously isn't.
Thats an overstatement, "Everyone" can't say one particular thing because then there would be no opposing views and the game wouldn't be made at all.
If you look at www.rgtr.com under the awards section you'll see many unbiased opinions of the game. You can also read posts from the people actually playing the game at boards.playtr.com
Yeah right now all the "major" popular games are pretty similar. That is common in capitalist competition, everyone is copying each other to be very safe. The truly original idea, once successful, will be copied by everyone in their next patch (try ingame email, auction house). Its relatively meaningless to say that this game is the same as the next one or ... Just assess TR as a game on its own, i say.
TR is not bad. It is not as original as we would hope from the creators of ultima. But, back in the ultima days, we hardly have a gaming industry. Anything that works will be original, as there is nothing to copy from. I do not blame TR for not being very original. It looks interesting enough on its homepage.
I do feel sad that TR feels so unfinished. Lotro gives me the feeling of polished and completed the moment I enter their closed beta. There are bugs but the overall feeling is one of a fully polished games. No crashes (few), missions galore (like it or not), full lore (LOTR is a full story 3 volumes and more). Yes the moment you log onto Lotro, you have the feeling of a world complete and ready for exploration. Not that Lotro is the best or whatever, but at least during the first month, I feel hooked. I feel I am exploring a world and dying left and right as I try to make my way to Rivendell, and trying out the epic storyline.
What do we have in TR? Few classes, few class defining skills (do not tell me I need to spend 6 months to get to that watershed, I play a couple hours a day). The graphics is nice but pales against Lotro (yes I compare). The interface is odd, and after learning it, I do not feel it to be superior to the current mode (WoW/Lotro mode). There is no major story line, or I cannot find it (blame me). The mobs are not very striking, they look evil but well they do not get me hooked. As an elf, when I see an orc, I got that compulsion to send him an arrow. Here, yes I know I should be shooting him, but somehow, in the urge to explore more, or just lacking the incentive to waste bullets, I sometimes skip him and move sideways.
What do we want from TR? Lots. For christ sake, let me stay online for a few hours without crashing. I have not been able to play for more than a couple hours without being greeted by some distracting issues. And we are close to release! Lotro is almost crash free (apart from memory leak) even in the first couple months of closed beta. Targetting problems, crashing, server kicking players, all these distracts us from enjoying TR and keeps reminding us that we are dealing with a computer simulation, rather than immersing in the game and getting that fantasy (or sci-fi) illusion for an hour or 2. I cannot help recalling vanguard, where I need to remember which part of the road is buggy (falling thru the earth, or getting stuck), which mob will run thru which wall. So much so I feel I am working on debugging rather than enjoying a finished game.
I am comparing it to Lotro, yes, as Lotro has the almost perfect impression for many during its closed beta to open beta. It might lose its charm later on, but at least, its worth 3 months of immersion, and more to some players. TR cannot get me hooked during the first week, and keeps frustrating me all thru the months of beta. I wonder how TR can attract and MAINTAIN a large loyal fanbase as the game goes life.
More work, more content but first make it stable and fix the bugs first. Hmm .. that sound like development stage, not open beta.
You're comparing apples and dogs. Two different things.
Tabula Rasa is an MMORPG. People tend to forget that even the best of them can't compare to console or other games on the PC due to their massive size.
So people need to stop bashing MMORPG graphics. Unless you can make one that won't kill even the highest end computer and still look amazing, please stop bitching.
Oh yeah TR will find his loyal fan base, just go to any NC soft sponsor website, they call this train wreck, a great game and some are pre-ordering it like "hot cakes out of the grill".
I got the beta off of Fileplanet and it says open beta so that means your allowed to talk about it. However i dunno what they were trying to achieve because it feels like a cheap poorly made action game similar to SWG's NGE. If i wanted to play a action game i'd go play Gears of War or something which actually has alot of polish and quality, this game just feels like it was made in 1995 withg raphics from 2000 lol. If this game doesn't flop harder than AA then i'll be suprised, seems like NCsoft can't create a good mmorpg and GW isn't a mmo.
You should consider opposition party politics as a profession one day. You scream something is wrong then have absolutely nothing to say to back it up.
No facts, no game descriptions, nada.
What a troll post.
He said all he needed to say: it is similar to the NGE. Speaks volumes to me. Actually: I agree with him/her, there is a LOT - especially in the interface - that reminds me of the NGE.
It is not a bad game. It is just not yet as polished as one would like to see for a product pending release. Lotro is far more polished at the early months of closed beta than TR is now. The lore/storyline of TR is also lacking, and there is no incentive for ppl to play on, you know, that feeling where you need to do just one more this or that. Do not start talking about crafting or player economy.
As for elf+sword, oh yea, I hate it. I have the urge to shoot at an orc as an elf, only because the Lotro storyline is so compelling, and I love the LOTR story. That said, I will be alergic to another dwarf elf human orc troll ogre game for the next 20 years. WHO might be the only exception if it turns out to be worth playing. Till then, no more elf roleplaying. I have enough.
It is not a bad game. It is just not yet as polished as one would like to see for a product pending release. Lotro is far more polished at the early months of closed beta than TR is now. The lore/storyline of TR is also lacking, and there is no incentive for ppl to play on, you know, that feeling where you need to do just one more this or that. Do not start talking about crafting or player economy. As for elf+sword, oh yea, I hate it. I have the urge to shoot at an orc as an elf, only because the Lotro storyline is so compelling, and I love the LOTR story. That said, I will be alergic to another dwarf elf human orc troll ogre game for the next 20 years. WHO might be the only exception if it turns out to be worth playing. Till then, no more elf roleplaying. I have enough.
People tend to judge a BETA like the final product. People need to understand that the publisher is doing a favor by letting people "play" (BETA test) their product. So of course the game will be riddled with bugs and so forth.
People always says the elves and dwarves are boring... then don't be one.
I personally like sci-fi, but untill they do it right (I'm not talking about EVE either), then we'll have to be spoon fed whatever it put in front of us.
. People need to understand that the publisher is doing a favor by letting people "play" (BETA test) their product.
Errr, they are doing US a favour? I do not think you quite understand the BETA process or the reasons behind it.
Agree.
Beta is much more for the developers benefit than the player.
If people wasn't so eager to test a game in developement for free, they would have to pay lots of professional Beta Testers (or Quality Assurance as they call it in the industry - QA ).
A MMO needs many more QA than an offline game, by offering free Beta spots they save lots of money.
People need to understand that the publisher is doing a favor by letting people "play" (BETA test) their product.
Beta testing is also another form of marketing or they would only have professional and paid beta testers to do all of the beta testing.
And if the devs actually paid attention to the issues raised by the beta community instead of blindly rushing ahead with game-breaking changes and banning the vocal detractors, then they might actually have a decent game on their hands instead of the bowl of warm poo they are trying to push out the door (and don't be fooled, an extra two weeks before live isn't enouh to resolve the issues, the game requires at least another 3 months of dev work, 6 if they continue to ignore the beta community and ban everyone but the fanbois
People need to understand that the publisher is doing a favor by letting people "play" (BETA test) their product.
Beta testing is also another form of marketing or they would only have professional and paid beta testers to do all of the beta testing.
no they wouldn't. Open BETA, namely the last few weeks before launch is often used as a heavy stress test, to guage other factors, and as a handy consequence give the publisher/development team some marketing.
So, they do in no way offer BETA to us, the public, as some sort of favour we should be thankful for and thus feel guilty when we state our opinions about a game been total crap.
Getting the boy next door to dig your garden for free, because he has an intrest in gardening, does not mean you are doing him a favour.
I got the beta off of Fileplanet and it says open beta so that means your allowed to talk about it. However i dunno what they were trying to achieve because it feels like a cheap poorly made action game similar to SWG's NGE. If i wanted to play a action game i'd go play Gears of War or something which actually has alot of polish and quality, this game just feels like it was made in 1995 withg raphics from 2000 lol. If this game doesn't flop harder than AA then i'll be suprised, seems like NCsoft can't create a good mmorpg and GW isn't a mmo.
You should consider opposition party politics as a profession one day. You scream something is wrong then have absolutely nothing to say to back it up.
No facts, no game descriptions, nada.
What a troll post.
He said all he needed to say: it is similar to the NGE. Speaks volumes to me. Actually: I agree with him/her, there is a LOT - especially in the interface - that reminds me of the NGE.
=p
Linna
Blasphemous.
I did notice a lot of similarities, but as I've said before TR is what the NGE should have been. 90 percent of the skills you used in SWG (after the NGE) were useless. At least here you can build on them and make them useful. This game isn't finished by a long shot, and I don't think it will be finished 6 months after launch. MMO's never are finished. Even LOTRO as polished as some say it is, it isn't finished. Now are there games out there that are better then this? Sure. Is this the worst game on the market? No. Does the game need work? Yes. Is this game playable? You betcha.
I also don't understand how people don't consider guild wars as not being an MMO. It's Massive, and Multiplayer... and Online. Is there something I'm missing?
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For a game that is suppose to come out in a couple of months and form every forum I visit people complains about bad control and aiming and that different parts of game not being ready yet and then in other forums it just praises about how good it is.
Well, I got my key from fileplanet played for 3 hours and in my humble opinion it needs a lot of work and in the expert opinion of my 14 year old “junk”
Well I agree with you, as usual Linna, we can only hope they get minor tidbits and other core aspects (not particularly core gameplay in general ftw) fixed. I'm pretty glad they've decided to extend the beta, and I have a feeling if they don't feel they completed everything they'd do it again. Now I know another postponing of the game is slim, but then again, I'm sure everyone is still surprised they delayed it at all. At least I get a few more weeks of free play time though
The first line of my post was a joke by the way.
Whine all you like, this is a fun game.
2 cents given
You should consider opposition party politics as a profession one day. You scream something is wrong then have absolutely nothing to say to back it up.
No facts, no game descriptions, nada.
What a troll post.
I literally fell asleep playing this...........
It was boring, derivative and redundant. The UI is horrible and the aiming system is abhorrent. There was no apparent depth at all. It simply was not a fun experience and I do not see it holding peoples interest over a long period of time.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
But if I only go in a game and attack things, regardless of the game I would say exactly what you are saying. Redundent, boring, same thing over and over again.
You are describing astroids or space invaders 30 years ago. They did not have a story or reason either except to get the highest score.
What about the story? What about grouping? What about ALLLL the other aspects in the game BESIDES killing things??
I would really like to hear from more people that have played the game and can actually give an unbias review, not what I see the most and that is people saying the killing is boring.
Sadly i agree i have been in Beta for quite some time and i think this game will fail.. That being said i must add that I had tremondous hopes for this game for years .Being a huge fan of Garriot and Longs work with UO i was really excited when i learned they were workin on this a few years ago ..
It kept my intrest very briefly then just started to find it boring maybe with some time it may become better ...
3hrs is not enough to determine if a game is bad or not.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD
Right now all mmos are pretty much the same. Run around do quest kill stuff. I cant think of a mmo where you dont do that in some way. Persoanly it cant be worsed then wow since so many quest have a crappy drop rate.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD
Sorry son, but if EVERYONE says its boring, it pretty much is. Go read a review on a real site then, this obviously isn't.
Thats an overstatement, "Everyone" can't say one particular thing because then there would be no opposing views and the game wouldn't be made at all.
If you look at www.rgtr.com under the awards section you'll see many unbiased opinions of the game. You can also read posts from the people actually playing the game at boards.playtr.com
Hope to see a few of you in game
Yeah right now all the "major" popular games are pretty similar. That is common in capitalist competition, everyone is copying each other to be very safe. The truly original idea, once successful, will be copied by everyone in their next patch (try ingame email, auction house). Its relatively meaningless to say that this game is the same as the next one or ... Just assess TR as a game on its own, i say.
TR is not bad. It is not as original as we would hope from the creators of ultima. But, back in the ultima days, we hardly have a gaming industry. Anything that works will be original, as there is nothing to copy from. I do not blame TR for not being very original. It looks interesting enough on its homepage.
I do feel sad that TR feels so unfinished. Lotro gives me the feeling of polished and completed the moment I enter their closed beta. There are bugs but the overall feeling is one of a fully polished games. No crashes (few), missions galore (like it or not), full lore (LOTR is a full story 3 volumes and more). Yes the moment you log onto Lotro, you have the feeling of a world complete and ready for exploration. Not that Lotro is the best or whatever, but at least during the first month, I feel hooked. I feel I am exploring a world and dying left and right as I try to make my way to Rivendell, and trying out the epic storyline.
What do we have in TR? Few classes, few class defining skills (do not tell me I need to spend 6 months to get to that watershed, I play a couple hours a day). The graphics is nice but pales against Lotro (yes I compare). The interface is odd, and after learning it, I do not feel it to be superior to the current mode (WoW/Lotro mode). There is no major story line, or I cannot find it (blame me). The mobs are not very striking, they look evil but well they do not get me hooked. As an elf, when I see an orc, I got that compulsion to send him an arrow. Here, yes I know I should be shooting him, but somehow, in the urge to explore more, or just lacking the incentive to waste bullets, I sometimes skip him and move sideways.
What do we want from TR? Lots. For christ sake, let me stay online for a few hours without crashing. I have not been able to play for more than a couple hours without being greeted by some distracting issues. And we are close to release! Lotro is almost crash free (apart from memory leak) even in the first couple months of closed beta. Targetting problems, crashing, server kicking players, all these distracts us from enjoying TR and keeps reminding us that we are dealing with a computer simulation, rather than immersing in the game and getting that fantasy (or sci-fi) illusion for an hour or 2. I cannot help recalling vanguard, where I need to remember which part of the road is buggy (falling thru the earth, or getting stuck), which mob will run thru which wall. So much so I feel I am working on debugging rather than enjoying a finished game.
I am comparing it to Lotro, yes, as Lotro has the almost perfect impression for many during its closed beta to open beta. It might lose its charm later on, but at least, its worth 3 months of immersion, and more to some players. TR cannot get me hooked during the first week, and keeps frustrating me all thru the months of beta. I wonder how TR can attract and MAINTAIN a large loyal fanbase as the game goes life.
More work, more content but first make it stable and fix the bugs first. Hmm .. that sound like development stage, not open beta.
You're comparing apples and dogs. Two different things.
Tabula Rasa is an MMORPG. People tend to forget that even the best of them can't compare to console or other games on the PC due to their massive size.
So people need to stop bashing MMORPG graphics. Unless you can make one that won't kill even the highest end computer and still look amazing, please stop bitching.
You don't like it? Some people do.
Different folks, different strokes.
Any MMO that doesn't involve elfs and swords will catch my eye. Yeah it's just a setting but the fantasy market is beyond flooded.
Oh yeah TR will find his loyal fan base, just go to any NC soft sponsor website, they call this train wreck, a great game and some are pre-ordering it like "hot cakes out of the grill".
VG also had a loyal fanbase. It was so loyal, they defended whether Brad McQuaid's *&^% was bitter or sweet.
You should consider opposition party politics as a profession one day. You scream something is wrong then have absolutely nothing to say to back it up.
No facts, no game descriptions, nada.
What a troll post.
He said all he needed to say: it is similar to the NGE. Speaks volumes to me. Actually: I agree with him/her, there is a LOT - especially in the interface - that reminds me of the NGE.=p
Linna
It is not a bad game. It is just not yet as polished as one would like to see for a product pending release. Lotro is far more polished at the early months of closed beta than TR is now. The lore/storyline of TR is also lacking, and there is no incentive for ppl to play on, you know, that feeling where you need to do just one more this or that. Do not start talking about crafting or player economy.
As for elf+sword, oh yea, I hate it. I have the urge to shoot at an orc as an elf, only because the Lotro storyline is so compelling, and I love the LOTR story. That said, I will be alergic to another dwarf elf human orc troll ogre game for the next 20 years. WHO might be the only exception if it turns out to be worth playing. Till then, no more elf roleplaying. I have enough.
People always says the elves and dwarves are boring... then don't be one.
I personally like sci-fi, but untill they do it right (I'm not talking about EVE either), then we'll have to be spoon fed whatever it put in front of us.
Errr, they are doing US a favour? I do not think you quite understand the BETA process or the reasons behind it.
Errr, they are doing US a favour? I do not think you quite understand the BETA process or the reasons behind it.
Agree.
Beta is much more for the developers benefit than the player.
If people wasn't so eager to test a game in developement for free, they would have to pay lots of professional Beta Testers (or Quality Assurance as they call it in the industry - QA ).
A MMO needs many more QA than an offline game, by offering free Beta spots they save lots of money.
Beta testing is also another form of marketing or they would only have professional and paid beta testers to do all of the beta testing.
Beta testing is also another form of marketing or they would only have professional and paid beta testers to do all of the beta testing.
And if the devs actually paid attention to the issues raised by the beta community instead of blindly rushing ahead with game-breaking changes and banning the vocal detractors, then they might actually have a decent game on their hands instead of the bowl of warm poo they are trying to push out the door (and don't be fooled, an extra two weeks before live isn't enouh to resolve the issues, the game requires at least another 3 months of dev work, 6 if they continue to ignore the beta community and ban everyone but the fanbois
Beta testing is also another form of marketing or they would only have professional and paid beta testers to do all of the beta testing.
no they wouldn't. Open BETA, namely the last few weeks before launch is often used as a heavy stress test, to guage other factors, and as a handy consequence give the publisher/development team some marketing.So, they do in no way offer BETA to us, the public, as some sort of favour we should be thankful for and thus feel guilty when we state our opinions about a game been total crap.
Getting the boy next door to dig your garden for free, because he has an intrest in gardening, does not mean you are doing him a favour.
You should consider opposition party politics as a profession one day. You scream something is wrong then have absolutely nothing to say to back it up.
No facts, no game descriptions, nada.
What a troll post.
He said all he needed to say: it is similar to the NGE. Speaks volumes to me. Actually: I agree with him/her, there is a LOT - especially in the interface - that reminds me of the NGE.=p
Linna
Blasphemous.
I did notice a lot of similarities, but as I've said before TR is what the NGE should have been. 90 percent of the skills you used in SWG (after the NGE) were useless. At least here you can build on them and make them useful. This game isn't finished by a long shot, and I don't think it will be finished 6 months after launch. MMO's never are finished. Even LOTRO as polished as some say it is, it isn't finished. Now are there games out there that are better then this? Sure. Is this the worst game on the market? No. Does the game need work? Yes. Is this game playable? You betcha.
I also don't understand how people don't consider guild wars as not being an MMO. It's Massive, and Multiplayer... and Online. Is there something I'm missing?
Problem is... they shouldn't even be considering release for another 6 months.
But why listen to the people who have been in beta for a long time?