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Is there a possiblity that aion will become number 1?

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  • ZarraaZarraa Member Posts: 481

    I'm glad there are so many former employes of the psychic network reading these boards.

    Fact is AION has as much chance to be #1 as anything else comming down the pike.I've seen nothing and I mean NOTHING that looks to be a sure fire winner.

    Early 2004 not many would of predicted WOW's runaway success either and look what happened.

     

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  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414


    I also see big things in the future for this company gaming wise with it's new found creation in Carbine Studios which incidentally is as of right now made up of many of Blizzards WoW creators. It's a norm in the industry to move up and out, but it seems that when Blizzard guys leave...they go to NCsoft. The guys from Arenanet, now the guys behind this Carbine thingamajig. Alot of which were a huge chunk of brain power behind what Blizzard has done to date so I think NCsoft is in good hands.

    Yes this is big news for NCsoft, if you follow mmos it's pretty clear that NC is fast becoming the leading MMO specialist, if it isn't already.

    *applauds Zarraa*  That's exactly right, Vanguard was also supposed to be this great amazing game as well.. And  yeah... Aion could be a disaster, it could be a huge hit or it could just be in the middle. I vote for the middle myself ^_^

     

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

     

    Originally posted by Cynthe


     

    I also see big things in the future for this company gaming wise with it's new found creation in Carbine Studios which incidentally is as of right now made up of many of Blizzards WoW creators. It's a norm in the industry to move up and out, but it seems that when Blizzard guys leave...they go to NCsoft. The guys from Arenanet, now the guys behind this Carbine thingamajig. Alot of which were a huge chunk of brain power behind what Blizzard has done to date so I think NCsoft is in good hands.

     

    Yes this is big news for NCsoft, if you follow mmos it's pretty clear that NC is fast becoming the leading MMO specialist, if it isn't already.

    NCSoft is one of THE leading MMO companies.

    *applauds Zarraa*  That's exactly right, Vanguard was also supposed to be this great amazing game as well.. And  yeah... Aion could be a disaster, it could be a huge hit or it could just be in the middle. I vote for the middle myself ^_^

     It depends what market you are talking about. Judging from the off handed way NC is handling the western side (basically ignoreing it) I don't see them being to concerned on how it does here in the west. With the recent loss of confidence in the CEO over NCSoft NA and specifically Rich's rock star behavior and his mouth writing checks his dev team can't cash...I see trouble in the near future for them.

    I think that NC is going to refocus on the asian market because that is were they are strongest. The entire western market is weak. No MMO is doing anything here but WoW and GW. Both of those games are getting up in age. Everything else...meh.

    Wow, (no pun intended)

    What a thread.

    Anyway I have a crystal ball and here is what it is telling me, I agree with you two on these points However MMO's are going to take it on the chin first with Tabula Rasa launching soon. TR unfortunately (IMHO) isn't going to do well.

    NCSoft has an excellent track record when you stand them up to Turbine and SOE. I don't know what crack some of these guys are smoking. The main issue with NC lately has been their targeting of the western market. Probably the weakest of the market of the MMO industry.

    I am using my crystal ball and its telling me that however Aion does in the west is irrelevent. Its the Asian market and how they react to it that matters. This game is going to have a serious impact on NC's long term financial health. Whatever happens here in the west... if it does well, its iceing on the cake. If not, it just falls into the catagory of another example of how weak the western demand for MMO's really is.

    While other gaming genres run wild in inovation and success, (Halo 3 out-doing blockbuster Hollywood movie releases) MMO's are stagnated, horrible technical quality (Vanguard) and lower then anticipated subs for the well made games (LotR) high production cost, low subscription numbers, short term shelf life and long term developement.

    The demand for games is there but MMO's have failed to capture that...

    So....all these guys bashing the game without even knowing what it is should really take a step back and examine what it is they are playing and be honest with what it really is. EQII,Vanguard, WoW, LotR, SWG, L2, whatever you want to throw in there...are all basically the same game with different skins. Pick your little elfie or dorfie, pick your cookie cutter class and go whack your little 10 rats. Grind till you drop.

    I have a theory on western MMOs and western gamers but I will save that for a blog. Its bound to draw some flame mwhahaha.

  • NiirnaethNiirnaeth Member Posts: 99

    I agree with you Torak in that so far Aion developers and NCsoft Korea have given practically no information or effort into presenting their game to North America. This may have to do with Tabula Rasa and them not wanting to take NA interest away but either way, 95 percent of our information is from sites that translate of korean Aion sites.

    For all their talk about appealing to western gamers they haven't shown much interest in what we think. Hopefully that changes as the games open beta and release come closer because it may be the factor to push people undecided about Aion away.

  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844

    i can see it becoming like lineage 2, a huge population but not as big publicity

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Originally posted by Aseenus


    i can see it becoming like lineage 2, a huge population but not as big publicity
    I'm not sure what you mean by that but I think NC is banking on Aion in Korea / Asia. also.

    It is based on the concepts originally titled "Lineage forever" (I'll dig up the reference later) before that lead dev left NCSoft partially over a few things that included taking on the Garriott brothers and their half arse studio and slapping NCSoft NA on them.

  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152

    Originally posted by Torak


     
    Originally posted by Aseenus


    i can see it becoming like lineage 2, a huge population but not as big publicity
    I'm not sure what you mean by that but I think NC is banking on Aion in Korea / Asia. also.

     

    It is based on the concepts originally titled "Lineage forever" (I'll dig up the reference later) before that lead dev left NCSoft partially over a few things that included taking on the Garriott brothers and their half arse studio and slapping NCSoft NA on them.

    Lineage Forever is something completely different. Its a game based on Lineage I. Aion is not.

    http://www.news.com/Resetting-online-gamings-future/2008-1082_3-939003.html

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

     

     

    Originally posted by Caladon


     
    Originally posted by Torak


     
    Originally posted by Aseenus


    i can see it becoming like lineage 2, a huge population but not as big publicity
    I'm not sure what you mean by that but I think NC is banking on Aion in Korea / Asia. also.

     

    It is based on the concepts originally titled "Lineage forever" (I'll dig up the reference later) before that lead dev left NCSoft partially over a few things that included taking on the Garriott brothers and their half arse studio and slapping NCSoft NA on them.

    Lineage Forever is something completely different. Its a game based on Lineage I. Aion is not.

     This article is from 2002, its a bit dated.

    By David Becker

    Staff Writer


    Published: June 25, 2002, 4:00 AM PDT

     

    http://www.news.com/Resetting-online-gamings-future/2008-1082_3-939003.html



    Nope, not according to Jake Song.

     

     

     

    That was fine with Song, who was already working on a 3D MMO to follow Lineage II, a project called Lineage Forever (which has since been re-tooled and retitled Aion.)

     

    http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20061204/henderson_01.shtml 

     

     

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414

    Aion was originally a lineage concept which has evolved into it's own game with the bright idea of being less intense for the casual crowd then Lineage has been.

    Yes, NCsoft cares so little about what we westerners think they even bothered to have a series of questions on aionsource.com asking about our opinions on certain game features, mechanics ect..

     

    NCsoft Austin makes me want to purchase the EU version of Aion so I don't have to deal with them.

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  • warrorwarror Member Posts: 270

    The graphics look great and it has some cool features such as flight. If they can make the game more quest oriented instead of pure grinding I think the game will do well. But right now its tough to be number 1 because there is so much competition.

  • BLeeDzACiDBLeeDzACiD Member Posts: 55

    Ok I know i dont have  a post count and all but i have been reading these boards for a while now. Aion wont be #1 my reason is. Not to bring WoW into it but WAR is coming out and it seems that all the WoW people are jumping to that  at least the ones tired of WoW. I mean I have heard my friends say thier whole guilds are moving to WAR. FYi I dont play WoW. Im waiting for something to get me back into the gener.

     

     

    Im glad to be posting now been reading and now time to voice my opinion.

  • jermell18jermell18 Member UncommonPosts: 124

    Hmmm well maybe not number 1 but it'll be up there. This game will be like Lineage 2 in alot of ways. Lineage 2 for a short time was up there until it got extremely corrupted by ebay, bots, pwr-lvling you name it.

    This game has a chance to be up there, and i think it really depends on NCsoft, and if they've learned a thing or two from there previous releases.

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  • GenreNinjaGenreNinja Member CommonPosts: 159

    I admit, I did not read this entire thread. I read the first page, a page I thought was about half way through, and the last page, so i get the jist of it's direction.

     

    1) Just because a handful of your friends, even if its 20 or 30 of them, even 1000 of them, does not mean "Everyone is moving to blah blah" There are more than 7 million active accounts on WoW, 1000 people isn't even 1% of that number.

    2) I don't know enough, I don't think anyone knows enough about Aion, to give a valid, backed up position as to why this IS going to be Number 1. So, I'm not going to say that. But i can say it CAN be number 1, and that I HOPE it becomes number 1. Even Number 2 won't hurt it (I do think WoW is way to strong to loose it's momentum now, simply with aion's release. they will actually have to DO something to steal the spotlight. same goes for WAR.)

     

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  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152

    Originally posted by Torak


     
     
    Originally posted by Caladon


     
    Originally posted by Torak


     
    Originally posted by Aseenus


    i can see it becoming like lineage 2, a huge population but not as big publicity
    I'm not sure what you mean by that but I think NC is banking on Aion in Korea / Asia. also.

     

    It is based on the concepts originally titled "Lineage forever" (I'll dig up the reference later) before that lead dev left NCSoft partially over a few things that included taking on the Garriott brothers and their half arse studio and slapping NCSoft NA on them.

    Lineage Forever is something completely different. Its a game based on Lineage I. Aion is not.

     This article is from 2002, its a bit dated.

    By David Becker

    Staff Writer


    Published: June 25, 2002, 4:00 AM PDT

     

    http://www.news.com/Resetting-online-gamings-future/2008-1082_3-939003.html



    Nope, not according to Jake Song.

     

     

     

    That was fine with Song, who was already working on a 3D MMO to follow Lineage II, a project called Lineage Forever (which has since been re-tooled and retitled Aion.)

     

    http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20061204/henderson_01.shtml 

     

     

    well, i think what gamasutra writes is BS... while the rest might be true, the paranthesis definitely is hearsay. Im pretty sure its not a direct quote (who speaks with paranthesises?)

    not that it matters or anything, but tbh thats probably just a product of speculating journalists. I mean, what i heard ages ago was that Lineage Forever was a rebuild of lineage 1, not a continuation of lineage 2.

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  • AiRIAiRI Member Posts: 2

    Originally posted by Gameloading


    No, there is too much cultural bias for that to happen. Just look at the comments in the hype meter, too many uninformed people.
    Yeah, I agree completely with this. (pretty much what I was going to post) I'm so sick of people automatically judging Aion without even looking at it. >< Specially those who seem to think they 'know all' about the games and attempt to tell me (who has been reading about Aion for months now) exactly how a game that isn't even in closed beta yet is going to be.

     

    Grr. ><

  • GormandYGormandY Member Posts: 411

    Simple answer, not that I dont want it to... but no, it wont.

    Warhammer will definately have a lot of subscribers only because well DUH ITS WARHAMMER.

    Second will be Age of Conan I would think, with a more mature kinda crowd and people who want  something different.

    Aion will be lucky to have over 500k subscribers in the United States and Europe. It might get over a million in Korea and China never the less.

  • SuttonianSuttonian Member UncommonPosts: 65

     

    Originally posted by Caladon


     
    Originally posted by Torak


     
     
    Originally posted by Caladon


     
    Originally posted by Torak


     
    Originally posted by Aseenus


    i can see it becoming like lineage 2, a huge population but not as big publicity
    I'm not sure what you mean by that but I think NC is banking on Aion in Korea / Asia. also.

     

    It is based on the concepts originally titled "Lineage forever" (I'll dig up the reference later) before that lead dev left NCSoft partially over a few things that included taking on the Garriott brothers and their half arse studio and slapping NCSoft NA on them.

    Lineage Forever is something completely different. Its a game based on Lineage I. Aion is not.

     This article is from 2002, its a bit dated.

    By David Becker

    Staff Writer


    Published: June 25, 2002, 4:00 AM PDT

     

    http://www.news.com/Resetting-online-gamings-future/2008-1082_3-939003.html



    Nope, not according to Jake Song.

     

     

     

    That was fine with Song, who was already working on a 3D MMO to follow Lineage II, a project called Lineage Forever (which has since been re-tooled and retitled Aion.)

     

    http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20061204/henderson_01.shtml 

     

     

    well, i think what gamasutra writes is BS... while the rest might be true, the paranthesis definitely is hearsay. Im pretty sure its not a direct quote (who speaks with paranthesises?)

     

    not that it matters or anything, but tbh thats probably just a product of speculating journalists. I mean, what i heard ages ago was that Lineage Forever was a rebuild of lineage 1, not a continuation of lineage 2.

    The Lineage: Forever project became Aion.

     

    Chinese link:

    lineage.gametsg.com/index.php

    Translated (barely understandable):

    translate.google.com/translate

  • LifethiefLifethief Member Posts: 8

    The thread reads "Is there a possibility that Aion will become number 1?"

    Sure anything is possible and stranger things have happened.

    But it won't. 

    Here's what I think matters most.

    The name - cool, but doesn't sell the game.  I learned this from running several guilds in different games.  The name HELPS your public appeal.

    Hype and marketing - If you can't find a way to promote the hype, well....its gonna be a rough road. 

    Since we all should know its not really how well the game is made that does it in the end.  World of Warcraft, in my opinion, isn't all that, but everyone and their mothers was playing it.  Why? Exposure, strong pre-established user base, word of mouth and aggressive marketing.  I heard parents picking up their grade school kids talking about it.  It was a social thing, not a true reflection of the game's quality.

    Sadly, I never played LIneage, though it looks great.  I see the Eastern influence and know that will hinder some of Aion's success.  In the end, people will end up playing whatever everyone else is playing.

    Cuz lets face it, a game could be a masterpiece, but when you log on to an empty server, interest drops fast.  And isn't that really the underlying feeling most get when waiting for a game they like?  Don't alot of you think, "please do well so I can play this with tons of people and it will get supported and upgraded"?

    I'm not trying to paint any one individual here, but just give a perspective on what I see from the gaming community and the world around me.  Myself and my best friend have played most mmo's that came around and are anxiously waiting for Aion.  OMFG, wings! lol

  • SnapcaseSnapcase Member Posts: 12

    I've played most MMO's out there and beta tested most of the stuff thats on its way out and nothing looks/feels good enough to hang around for except Aion. My $0.02.

  • LauralianeLauraliane Member Posts: 24

    They day when a korean company will hire game designers as good as their artists (both visual and sound), then maybe, one of their game will rise to the top.

    Aion is just the same "korean pvp sh..." with  the "omg  you can fly !" masturbating feature added.

     

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414

     

    Originally posted by Lauraliane
    Aion is just the same "korean pvp sh..." with  the "omg  you can fly !" masturbating feature added.

     

    Do your homework. K thanks.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Originally posted by Lauraliane


    They day when a korean company will hire game designers as good as their artists (both visual and sound), then maybe, one of their game will rise to the top.
    Aion is just the same "korean pvp sh..." with  the "omg  you can fly !" masturbating feature added.
     
    Oh you're just another french person who eats nothing but Baguette, is arrogant and is convinced French should be the world language.

    See? It's easy to stereotype, isn't it? You probably do not fit in the describtion I gave of you at all, I just judged you based on a stereotype. Silly, isn't it? Well, it's the exact same thing you're doing right now. If you're not going to do any research on this game and just base you entire opinion on stereotype..I think you would do everyone a huge favor if you just kept that opinion to yourself, there already is enough ignorance in this world as it is.

  • sketchy_sketchy_ Member UncommonPosts: 137

    Originally posted by Gameloading


     
    Oh you're just another french person who eats nothing but Baguette, is arrogant and is convinced French should be the world language.
     
    Don't forget they all smoke to.

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  • RekujenRekujen Member Posts: 6

    To be honest, i have a feeling this game will hit the top 5 MMORPG's in 2008-09 and will most likely climb through to 2010 and over.

    There's way too many stereo typical people judging Aion just because it's made by Koreans. I'm pretty sure after many successful MMO's lately, the whole grinding era is about to vanish. I watched several developer interviews for Aion today and it appears Ken Choi knows what he's doing.

    There will be quests in the game, there will be dungeons/instances and there will be mass world PvP constantly going on inside the Abyss (RvR, look it up)

    Another interesting thing which most MMO's lack are cut scenes. As you progress throughout the quests/levels there will be cut scenes that will involve you within the story. (think FFXI)

    Like i said, i think this will be a successful game, it's something Studio 5 - NC Soft are taking very seriously. Give it a chance eh? watch some videos before you judge it. The gameplay itself looks amazing and i don't even need to mention the graphics.

    For those worried their PC's won't be able to run it.. don't forget NC Soft are really good at optimizing video games to run smooth for even the weaker PC's so i wouldn't worry too much.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060

    No clue really how it will do on the market...when it releases I'll give it a trial and see if I enjoy playing it....

    I've 'almost' enjoyed playing previous NCSoft titles, including Lineage 1/2, GW's, CoX to name a few.

    Yet, in each one there was something that kept me from fully enjoying the game (and playing longer than 6 months)

    Will Aion finally break that trend and be a game I'll really enjoy?  We'll have to wait and see.

     

     

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