Warlocks are very strong in PvP against most classes 1v1 or maybe 2v2, but struggle in bigger PvP settings. They are still the most overpowered though. Warlocks are also annoyingly good in PvE at almost all levels. But that's just a fire mage complaining about meters .
Warriors are overall the most underpowered class in my opinion. 1v1, they're fairly easy for most classes to beat. They have a little extra utility in a larger PvP setting, but so does every other class. In PvE, warriors might be able to hold their own on DPS, but not as well as an equally skilled player of any other class. They even have to share tanking with feral druids until a little later in the raiding.
Shamans are also pretty underpowered. Their heals are starting to get a little weak (except the godly chain heal), they have always had problems doing consistent DPS, and run out of mana rather quickly. I remember shamans being the most overpowered for a long time, but those days have passed.
Most OP'd Melee class I would go with an MS war. On my rogue dodge (being his only REAL form of armor) will get him killed with overpower, I dont quite think it's right that I can be hit for 12k because I dodged an attack
whereas on my druid (resto) MS hurts...alot. Only class I fear when playing either one of my main chars.
But in the end it comes down to gear. The person with the better toys usually holds the I.W.I.N button
Every experienced WoW pvpers knows that the most overpowered class is the one that he/she couldnt kill and got killed by multiple times and the most underpowered class is the class the person's playing.
But in reality the most overpowered is warlock (still on top for a long time) and most underpowered is rogue (pve and pvp wise in BGs etc)
Originally posted by emorphous Warriors are overall the most underpowered class in my opinion. 1v1, they're fairly easy for most classes to beat. They have a little extra utility in a larger PvP setting, but so does every other class. In PvE, warriors might be able to hold their own on DPS, but not as well as an equally skilled player of any other class. They even have to share tanking with feral druids until a little later in the raiding.
If larger pvp setting is 5v5 arena... basically every 5v5 with decent players got an MS warrior. I know that's not utility, but apart from healers there's no other spot as secure as the MS warriors in a 5v5. And it's not like warriors cant deal dmg when getting healed (what group pvp settings doesnt involve healing?).
Other then that I agree that warrior and shammys got it tough.
Most OP'd Melee class I would go with an MS war. On my rogue dodge (being his only REAL form of armor) will get him killed with overpower, I dont quite think it's right that I can be hit for 12k because I dodged an attack But in the end it comes down to gear. The person with the better toys usually holds the I.W.I.N button
1. No overpower EVER hits or crits for 12k.
2. Learn2Rogue, evasion is fine against warriors - your just using it at the wrong moments, bleed/poison kiting is your friend. Learn2deadzone the intercept, win.
3. Anyone can get quality gear and be competitive these days, there is absolutely ZERO excuses for not having good gear anymore, other than lack of dedication on your part where required.
Feel free to toss your armory up, I could use a good laugh, judging by your post it would be certain to deliver. If your getting hit or crit for 12k, you better take off the tweed vest and pants.
Some players simply are not cut out for pvp, you sir are one of them, its nothing to be ashamed of - but at least know your place before you make blanket statements based off your own inadequacies in pvp.
Heh, from what I have seen... Allaince is not over powered, there are jsut to damn many of them in relation to the Horde. Makes it hard to take out groups when they have ?? baby sitters all the time almost everywhere. I hunt as part of a pair and the baby sitting by ?? is spoiling my fun.
Every experienced WoW pvpers knows that the most overpowered class is the one that he/she couldnt kill and got killed by multiple times and the most underpowered class is the class the person's playing. But in reality the most overpowered is warlock (still on top for a long time) and most underpowered is rogue (pve and pvp wise in BGs etc)
speak for yourself. I have never had trouble killing any class as a rogue both PvP and battleground. You do have to know what you are doing though, most of the time if you die as a rogue its pretty much your own fault. Never had a problem PvEing either, just got to pick your targets and don't start something you can't finish or walk away from.
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Shaman warrior and rogue for most underpowered classes - all at 14.3%...
Well that doesn't make sense. My vote went for Pally. because they got so many nerfs over the years.. I've played shaman warrior and rogue classes at 70, and warrior can suck as prot, but they can manage. Rogue isn't meant to take on plate classes alone (at full health anyway) but I've seen it happen where the rogue wins. Shammies can own just as well, so long as you have the right talent build and gear to back it up, like the pally as ret shammy as elemental needs to have gear to back it up, but not so much as the pally.
Warlocks aren't OP, their talent trees are. Everyone complains about 'locks being OP but it is only from Arena and then only when they have an Affliction build, Demonology builds (which I am) is not that bad and is not that hard to kill. But I agree that Affliction spec'd Warlocks have too many neato PvP tricks up their sleeves....unless the Rogue gets in first
no matter what this posts says to me the most OP class is Paladin and warlock paladins cheat do some inpenetrable shield heal themselves in one quick burst all the way 2 full and can still hit really hard also can wear stupid plate example: me and my bro hes a lv 70 rogue and im a lv 66 druid at the time im feral hes assassination my bro has part gladiator and i have shit the paladin has full gladiator but he still manages to pwn both of us breaking no sweat and when we come for round 2 with half of his health gone he pwns again this time healing with bubble+heal and hes ret pally but i got nothing against warlocks
lol at the guys who think priests are OP in this game. they obviously never played wow.
I could not agree more,nor could I agree that shaman is the most underpowered class. Its my opinion now that mage yes MAGE is the most under powered class. I have seen in raids where plate classes out dpsing mages including shamans,so how the hell do they come up with shammy being the most under powered?
lol at the guys who think priests are OP in this game. they obviously never played wow.
Have you even played WoW?
The top guilds in the world use Shadow Priests for DPS and make the Paladins strictly healing bitches.
Shadow Priests are one of the highest dps'ers in the game atm, a well specced and decently geared SPriest will keep up with Mages, Rogues and Warlocks on the damage metres very easily.
Try to at least have half a clue before you make completely false statements, it'll save you abit of dignity in the long run, all in all that comment was a huge steaming pile of fail.
I noticed you said keep up with mage/rogues,and warlocks not overtake them in power so that leads me to believe they are not over powered. Did you mean they out dps the other classes? or keep up?
i think he means based on the fact that a healing class can keep up with the dpsers in damage charts shows that they are contenders for being an op class.
If you want serious results your best chance is to make another post asking the same question, but making everyone give their reason for why they think one class is over powered and why one is under powered. Because all your going to get is bias votes from people who can't approach shit with a non skewed mindset.
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Most people who respond will speak from their own narrow viewpoint. And only a small proportion of people present have seen all the game has to offer.
For example, consider a feral druid from a PvE point of view. As a new 70, the class is completely overpowered. It can tank in heroics and Karazahn in crap gear. It can top DPS meters and put out 1000 DPS if played well without any epics at all. Someone playing at this level could easily say "Feral druids are most overpowered".
But gear everyone up in T6, and go to sunwell, and the picture is considerably different. Their tanking is considerably worse than a prot-warrior's and their DPS is still stuck at around 1600 whilst most other classes are putting out 2000+. They find it hard to justify a raid spot v DPS warriors, who can considerably out-DPS them and are also able to off-tank (with a gear change). Someone playing at this level could easily say that "feral druids are most underpowered".
And part of the problem with such a survey is that there are more people playing at the lower levels of the game than at the higher levels. However most people actually care more about a classes top-end power (since they want something to aspire to). So the results are inherently different from what people actually want.
You can see this in some of the posters above who complain about the DPS of shaman v mages. Either the person is playing at a relatively low level of the game, or his guild's mages are seriously crap.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say PvP. This really boils down to character playability. It's almost like a EVO vs STI, it really depends on the driver. I've seen Priests burn down Warlocks, Mages, Shamans and Druids with no sweat. And the same goes for all other classes. I've yet to see a true overpowered class.
I currently have a Rogue/Druid/Lock/Paladin and I do fantastic with all 4.
okay warlock, most owerpowered and underpowered...
lol reason for this is that people still think warlocks are overpower from late WoW/early BC. Right now the game is pretty balance so every class can be perceived as a bit overpowered depending on what they face, but locks are one of the weakest classes right now (purely pvp). In PvE they are still pretty good specially when it comes to mobile / aoe fights.
Not rearly posible to answer the question it all depends on gear/class/spec and the playing playing them.In the right hands any class can become op to some people or up in the wrong hands.Wow is fairly balanced you get crap loads people complaining that they getting beat by certain classess.maybe if they looked at there gear or tryed difrent tactics they would most likely see the reason they are getting beat.
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who cares about most underpowered, the most overpowered class is warlock though, if u say otherwise u must suck at wow ><
They were free kills for so long its only fair
Don't vote warlocks for most UP, that's not true and you know it
I voted locks for most OP and shamans for most UP / broken class
Warlocks are very strong in PvP against most classes 1v1 or maybe 2v2, but struggle in bigger PvP settings. They are still the most overpowered though. Warlocks are also annoyingly good in PvE at almost all levels. But that's just a fire mage complaining about meters
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Warriors are overall the most underpowered class in my opinion. 1v1, they're fairly easy for most classes to beat. They have a little extra utility in a larger PvP setting, but so does every other class. In PvE, warriors might be able to hold their own on DPS, but not as well as an equally skilled player of any other class. They even have to share tanking with feral druids until a little later in the raiding.
Shamans are also pretty underpowered. Their heals are starting to get a little weak (except the godly chain heal), they have always had problems doing consistent DPS, and run out of mana rather quickly. I remember shamans being the most overpowered for a long time, but those days have passed.
Most OP'd Melee class I would go with an MS war. On my rogue dodge (being his only REAL form of armor) will get him killed with overpower, I dont quite think it's right that I can be hit for 12k because I dodged an attack
whereas on my druid (resto) MS hurts...alot. Only class I fear when playing either one of my main chars.
But in the end it comes down to gear. The person with the better toys usually holds the I.W.I.N button
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Every experienced WoW pvpers knows that the most overpowered class is the one that he/she couldnt kill and got killed by multiple times and the most underpowered class is the class the person's playing.
But in reality the most overpowered is warlock (still on top for a long time) and most underpowered is rogue (pve and pvp wise in BGs etc)
If larger pvp setting is 5v5 arena... basically every 5v5 with decent players got an MS warrior. I know that's not utility, but apart from healers there's no other spot as secure as the MS warriors in a 5v5. And it's not like warriors cant deal dmg when getting healed (what group pvp settings doesnt involve healing?).
Other then that I agree that warrior and shammys got it tough.
2. Learn2Rogue, evasion is fine against warriors - your just using it at the wrong moments, bleed/poison kiting is your friend. Learn2deadzone the intercept, win.
3. Anyone can get quality gear and be competitive these days, there is absolutely ZERO excuses for not having good gear anymore, other than lack of dedication on your part where required.
Feel free to toss your armory up, I could use a good laugh, judging by your post it would be certain to deliver. If your getting hit or crit for 12k, you better take off the tweed vest and pants.
Some players simply are not cut out for pvp, you sir are one of them, its nothing to be ashamed of - but at least know your place before you make blanket statements based off your own inadequacies in pvp.
Heh, from what I have seen... Allaince is not over powered, there are jsut to damn many of them in relation to the Horde. Makes it hard to take out groups when they have ?? baby sitters all the time almost everywhere. I hunt as part of a pair and the baby sitting by ?? is spoiling my fun.
speak for yourself. I have never had trouble killing any class as a rogue both PvP and battleground. You do have to know what you are doing though, most of the time if you die as a rogue its pretty much your own fault. Never had a problem PvEing either, just got to pick your targets and don't start something you can't finish or walk away from.
"And thus I clothe my naked villany/ with old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ/ and seem a saint when most I play the devil." Shakespeare's Richard III Act I Scene 3.
Shaman warrior and rogue for most underpowered classes - all at 14.3%...
Well that doesn't make sense. My vote went for Pally. because they got so many nerfs over the years.. I've played shaman warrior and rogue classes at 70, and warrior can suck as prot, but they can manage. Rogue isn't meant to take on plate classes alone (at full health anyway) but I've seen it happen where the rogue wins. Shammies can own just as well, so long as you have the right talent build and gear to back it up, like the pally as ret shammy as elemental needs to have gear to back it up, but not so much as the pally.
As for most OP. Warlock by far.
One of the main causes of disagreement on this thread is that everyone seems to be answering a different question.
Most overpowered at what?
Most underpowered at what?
My votes in different categories:
Most overpowered 1v1 duel: warlock (runner up: hunter)
Most underpowered 1v1 duel: paladin
Most overpowered 2v2 arena: warlock (runner up: druid)
Most underpowered 2v2 arena: hunter
Most overpowered 5v5 arena: warrior (runner up: paladin)
Most underpowered 5v5 arena: hunter
Most overpowered BG pvp: hunter (runner up: mage)
Most underpowered BG pvp: shaman
Most overpowered world pvp: rogue (runner up: hunter)
Most underpowered world pvp: warrior
Note that although hunters are currently crap in the arena, this may change with upcoming patches (e.g. removal of deadzone, dispelling arcane shot)
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Warlocks aren't OP, their talent trees are. Everyone complains about 'locks being OP but it is only from Arena and then only when they have an Affliction build, Demonology builds (which I am) is not that bad and is not that hard to kill. But I agree that Affliction spec'd Warlocks have too many neato PvP tricks up their sleeves....unless the Rogue gets in first
no matter what this posts says to me the most OP class is Paladin and warlock paladins cheat do some inpenetrable shield heal themselves in one quick burst all the way 2 full and can still hit really hard also can wear stupid plate example: me and my bro hes a lv 70 rogue and im a lv 66 druid at the time im feral hes assassination my bro has part gladiator and i have shit the paladin has full gladiator but he still manages to pwn both of us breaking no sweat and when we come for round 2 with half of his health gone he pwns again this time healing with bubble+heal and hes ret pally but i got nothing against warlocks
I could not agree more,nor could I agree that shaman is the most underpowered class. Its my opinion now that mage yes MAGE is the most under powered class. I have seen in raids where plate classes out dpsing mages including shamans,so how the hell do they come up with shammy being the most under powered?
The top guilds in the world use Shadow Priests for DPS and make the Paladins strictly healing bitches.
Shadow Priests are one of the highest dps'ers in the game atm, a well specced and decently geared SPriest will keep up with Mages, Rogues and Warlocks on the damage metres very easily.
Try to at least have half a clue before you make completely false statements, it'll save you abit of dignity in the long run, all in all that comment was a huge steaming pile of fail.
I noticed you said keep up with mage/rogues,and warlocks not overtake them in power so that leads me to believe they are not over powered. Did you mean they out dps the other classes? or keep up?
i think he means based on the fact that a healing class can keep up with the dpsers in damage charts shows that they are contenders for being an op class.
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If you want serious results your best chance is to make another post asking the same question, but making everyone give their reason for why they think one class is over powered and why one is under powered. Because all your going to get is bias votes from people who can't approach shit with a non skewed mindset.
MMO's I am playing
Ether Saga Online (Closed Beta)
Ultima Online (halted for now)
World of Warcraft (Retired and never going back)
overpowered and underpowered in what situation? Soloing, grouping, raiding, pvp, Battlegrounds, Arenas......?
Any survey like this is completely useless.
Most people who respond will speak from their own narrow viewpoint. And only a small proportion of people present have seen all the game has to offer.
For example, consider a feral druid from a PvE point of view. As a new 70, the class is completely overpowered. It can tank in heroics and Karazahn in crap gear. It can top DPS meters and put out 1000 DPS if played well without any epics at all. Someone playing at this level could easily say "Feral druids are most overpowered".
But gear everyone up in T6, and go to sunwell, and the picture is considerably different. Their tanking is considerably worse than a prot-warrior's and their DPS is still stuck at around 1600 whilst most other classes are putting out 2000+. They find it hard to justify a raid spot v DPS warriors, who can considerably out-DPS them and are also able to off-tank (with a gear change). Someone playing at this level could easily say that "feral druids are most underpowered".
And part of the problem with such a survey is that there are more people playing at the lower levels of the game than at the higher levels. However most people actually care more about a classes top-end power (since they want something to aspire to). So the results are inherently different from what people actually want.
You can see this in some of the posters above who complain about the DPS of shaman v mages. Either the person is playing at a relatively low level of the game, or his guild's mages are seriously crap.
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say PvP. This really boils down to character playability. It's almost like a EVO vs STI, it really depends on the driver. I've seen Priests burn down Warlocks, Mages, Shamans and Druids with no sweat. And the same goes for all other classes. I've yet to see a true overpowered class.
I currently have a Rogue/Druid/Lock/Paladin and I do fantastic with all 4.
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lol reason for this is that people still think warlocks are overpower from late WoW/early BC. Right now the game is pretty balance so every class can be perceived as a bit overpowered depending on what they face, but locks are one of the weakest classes right now (purely pvp). In PvE they are still pretty good specially when it comes to mobile / aoe fights.
Not rearly posible to answer the question it all depends on gear/class/spec and the playing playing them.In the right hands any class can become op to some people or up in the wrong hands.Wow is fairly balanced you get crap loads people complaining that they getting beat by certain classess.maybe if they looked at there gear or tryed difrent tactics they would most likely see the reason they are getting beat.