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Building computer for AOC (Important)
Omece
Member Posts: 18
Well i want to build a new computer for this game.
I want a decent one, so for the first step i need a good webpage that you can build computers yourself, when im done, then i gonna write all the specifications here on the forum so you guys can tell me if AOC gonna run really smooth and without problems.
Can anyone tell me a good web that i can build my new computer ?
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www.alienware.com produces excellent systems that can run all today's games. ;D
alien ware... haha dont buy one.. over priced by far... if you want i can pick you out some parts and send you a list of what to get.. just email me... skatedvsstyle@gmail.com.... just tell me how much you have to spend.
http://www.newegg.com
I have to agree, don't go alienware. They are all about looks and flash, when it comes down to it, that's what your paying for.
I know not everyone knows how to build a computer but seriously look into it, its not that hard. The manuals for the parts tell you exactly how to install them.
newegg.com
So do you know anything about hardware are you able to buy parts and "build" your own rig?
Do you mean "build" as is build a dell(alienware), hp or other company?
http://ibuypower.com/mall/lobby.htm
Can customize an AMD or Intel PC for around half the price of what Alienware would charge you.
first off DONT go alienware. they are good but if u shop around u can find better for cheaper
try hypersonic
another thing dont bother getting a new comp just yet. wait til around Christmas that leaves time for newer/better equipment to come out (mainly graphics cards). atm Dx10 graphics cards are pretty bad and are improving each month
my suggestion is to google custom built PC's (ad in gaming if u wanna be specific) and hold off for a few months.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
cheapest way to go is just to build it. Even a complete idiot can do it(i did)
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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Has anyone tried the Ebay seller Allpczone?
I just checked and i can get the same system with them as i can with ibuypower.com for about 200 dollars less.
And for those who build computers tell me if this is a good buy please (i.e. building it yourself), i can get it for 1225 shipped through Allpczone:
MB: Asus P5B LGA775/Core2 Duo/P965/SATA2/A&Gbe/ATX
Proc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Ram: 4GB DDR2 667MHZ PC-5400
HD: 320 GB SATA2 7200RPM
Video: NVidea 8800 320MB
With Vista Home Premium, as well as the other normal stuff like DVD/CD-rom, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc.
I agree. You will always get more bang for your buck if your seek out individual parts yourself.
Take most of the top end computers made by Alienware/Dell, HP and others and subtract about 3/4 of the cost and that is basically what you would spend on a system if you did it yourself. Alienware built it's rep on the backs of dumb ass rich folks who could care less about how much they spend. I actually only give them alot of credit in the laptop area.
Lol...Dells XPS is upwards of 5,000 dollars. For what? Everything it has can be bought for considerably less.
WWW.newegg.com is probably the most reliable source for parts on the web. Fantastic customer service and darn fast when it comes to delivery.
I agree with waiting until the last possible moment before buying a graphix card. If you have the budget, then you may want to find out when the NEXT LATEST and GREATEST is due out and go ahead and wait for it.
As everything is pretty much plug and play now...putting a comp together is extremely easy. You really only need a few components.
1. Processor
2. Motherboard
3. Memory
4. Hard drive
5. Optical Drive ie: DVD player, Cd player...
6. Power supply
7. Monitor
8. Keyboard and mouse
9. Graphics card
10. An operating system
Beyond that you can grab other doodads such as Speakers, Headphones, Card readers, printers, web cams, game controllers, lights, fans, heat sinks...etc etc.
I just did another check on Newegg. To get the top 5 items plus the OP on newegg it ran about 980 bucks. So when you add in case, media drives, keyboard etc etc it looks like the $1225 might be a good deal.
sorry for my ignorance as i didnt play this game b4.. but judging from the graphics i seen from the screenshots.. it does not require a very high end computer.. i would say 2gb and a decent 7900 card will do just fine.. more than enough i would say.. i dont see y some are suggesting even 4gb and 8800 thats way overkill dude
Well the difference between overkill and budget will be different FPS, Highest settings vs. Med-Low settings. Obvious stuff really. Sure the game is going to have minimal requirements. But usually minimal requirements means lowest settings in some cases. I say if you really want to enjoy your gaming go with 4GB and the best graphics card you can get with your money. Yes, some people will argue that getting the "Best" is just a waste of money. Yes, it might be a waste of money for someone that isn't as enthusiastic about gaming and performance vs. someone that is casual.
I'd say go with newegg.com educate yourself on specific components and go from there. Ask, people along the way for what they would recommend or simple just reading reviews on products at tomshardware works too.
People have to realise that NEWEGG doesn't ship everywhere, like Canada or maybe Puerto Rico where the guy is from...
Hey try looking here: http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=735af9cc823ab7938461a78af7f8fd0c
for help, also the main webpage (at top) offers copies of the magazine in FREE .pdf format to read, so you can see what is good and is not.
to mess around with builds (and not be forced to deal with alienwares b/s gold standard) try
ibuypower.com lets you mess around on a lot of platforms and honestly it is hard to beat their prices (unlike alienware)
edit: i would still buy the parts 1 @ a time from newegg if that is how its being done, tigerdirect.com also sells alot of good "barebones" combos tho.
If you are going for 4Gb RAM make sure you get Vista 64 and not 32. If you get 32 the system will only show just over half of it - 32 bit systems can't address that much memory.
That's happened to me although I now have Premium 64 in the draw for next time I reformat.
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You can walk the walk but can you talk the talk?
If you are going for 4Gb RAM make sure you get Vista 64 and not 32. If you get 32 the system will only show just over half of it - 32 bit systems can't address that much memory.
That's happened to me although I now have Premium 64 in the draw for next time I reformat.
Not just that, you need to make sure the motherboard can address that much memory, too.
/rant
Don not, I repeat Do not destroy what could be a great computer with that 320 mb POS card. Get a 512 or 768 8800 gtx, nvidia is halting support for the 320 cards due to their lack of memory.
Also newegg is good but you can get better deals from www.tigerdirect.com , i bought a similar comp, all parts were in perfect condition 1500 total.
I went with the EVGA 680i T1 version mobo, the same q6600, 4 gb of 800mzh ram, 2 250 gigs drives 1 for vista 32 and 1 for xp (free copy of vista is why i dont have 64) and the evga 8800 gtx 768mb version, i picked up the vid card and the processor as a combo deal for 600 ish bucks which was supergreat at the time cause the q6600 hadnt dropped yet to 259 it was still 499.
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4 gigs of ram shows up as 3g in x86 (not just over 2) shows up as close to 4 in the bios.
you dont need that much for gaming tho, anything over 3 is really more the realm of heavy or industrial rendering/ encoding/ medical/ scientific rigs.
Don not, I repeat Do not destroy what could be a great computer with that 320 mb POS card. Get a 512 or 768 8800 gtx, nvidia is halting support for the 320 cards due to their lack of memory.
Also newegg is good but you can get better deals from www.tigerdirect.com , i bought a similar comp, all parts were in perfect condition 1500 total.
I went with the EVGA 680i T1 version mobo, the same q6600, 4 gb of 800mzh ram, 2 250 gigs drives 1 for vista 32 and 1 for xp (free copy of vista is why i dont have 64) and the evga 8800 gtx 768mb version, i picked up the vid card and the processor as a combo deal for 600 ish bucks which was supergreat at the time cause the q6600 hadnt dropped yet to 259 it was still 499.
There is no 8800 gtx 512mb card.
There is an 8800 320 and 640mb version of the GTS card.
IN many games the 8800 320mb GTS card performs better than the 8800 640Mb GTS card up to resolutions of 1900x1200. This has been proved lots of times, the 320Mb 8800 GTS is a great card for the price, the extra memory on the 640mb only really comes into effect at higher resolutions like your average 24" monitor and above.
www.tomshardware.com and look at the VGA charts.
AoC has happily been shown at some conventions running with 2gb and E6600 and a Nvidia 7900 GS 256Mb GPU.
I am in much the same situation as you. I am going to have to build a new computer system before I can play any of the new games. Below are a couple suggestions that you may want to keep in mind.
1. Wait as long as posible to buy the meat of your computer (motherboard, RAM, processor, video card, and power supply). The longer you wait, the cheaper and better the products will be.
2. If you are on a budget, don't buy cutting edge technology. Instead buy cutting edge six months ago (it also gives the companies longer to fix the drivers).
3. Black Friday is approximately a month and half away. Most places have great sales. This would be an excellent time to buy computer components that have a longer shelf life (monitor, computer case, printer, keyboard, hard drive, mouse, sound card, etc.). It will probably be about 6 months before you see prices this cheap again.
4. Before you buy any component check it out on the web. The reviews at www.newegg.com is a good place. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people that shop there.
5. Don't skimp on the power supply. It is the foundation of your system. A couple brands that I have heard good things about are Antec, PC Power and Cooling, FSP Group (Fortron, Sparkle), Enermax, SeaSonic, and Xclio. The only three I have personal experience with are Antec, FSP Group, and Xclio.
6. Make sure your components will work with each other. This is one of the reasons product research is important. Some dealers will check your components to make sure that they are working and will work together for a small fee. It might cost a little more, but it might not be a bad idea for someone who does not build systems for a living (I do it myself). The place I have used before was www.mwave.com.
7. Make sure you have adquate airflow. Make sure your case has at least a fan on the front and back (120 mm if possible). Make sure your power supply has a good fan (this will pull a lot of the heat out of the top of your case). Make sure your processor and video card (research) have a good fan. You might want to consider buying a good slot fan (I have one and it has been great).
"Those who dislike things based only on the fact that they are popular are just as shallow and superficial as those who only like them for the same reason."
Ok, then i will wait more time, so my computer gonna be maybe 20% cheaper when AOC comes outs, i have a link of all that im planning to buy and i want to make sure if it will have better perfomance than the minimum requierements.
Here is the link: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/thread/149342
dude that computer sux.. you wont even ever use 4 gigs of ram and you cant utilies a quad core. haah dude try again
yea you'll kick yourself in the nuts for not getting ddr2 800 for 1 thing (besides it costing about the same) and quad core cpu's aren't really for gaming.
edit:sata hard drives kinda suck, they totally suck @ that speed, a good friend said it best, "its like driving everywhere in second gear". simply put they add alot to bootup time and are a pain in the ass to deal with.
course that doesn't matter once your in game
My medium-end computer:
- eVGA 8800 GTS 320m Graphics - $298
Motherboard: eVGA 680i-A1 - $227
Ram: 2 GB PC6400 800 mHz Ram (another 2 in the package waiting for Vista install) - $80 (x2)
Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.4 E660 775 Processor - $220
Power: Corsair 620w Power Supply (Can not stress enough how important a solid power supply is to run 8800 Graphics, SLI or not, in fact I'm right at the just enough power before adding second hard drive) - $140
Hard Drive: WD 320G Hard Drive (7200 RPM) - $90 (x2)
Case: Cooler Master Mystique - $100
Total: $1,325 + tax/shipping
The main trick is as always, planning enough power for your computer, and being able to be able to scale into higher end games if necessary. While this computer doesn't pack the punch of the 8800 GTX (or upcoming 9000) with 10,000 RPM RAID 0 Hard drives it is effective and stable. Likewise skimping on case fans or thermal paste can lead to disaster.
Main Issues: Mystique case runs a bit hot, even with top end cooler master CPU blower and upgraded fans. 680i chipset is challenging to configure.
Expansion plans: I'm still debating between a second 8800 GTS 320 or upgrading to a GTX. etc. Moving from XP to Vista which will be a struggle/pain, but waiting for more DX10 games to come out, perhaps early November if Hellgate is worth seeing in top graphics.
Advise: read, read, read. Absorb every review for every piece of equipment you want to purchase, find out it's disadvantages and strengths, find out everything you can about SLI if that's a route you want to take, determine specs, price, post specs on a board to see people's reactions, etc. Most importantly stay within your budget. Don't waste all your money on a top end graphic card and short yourself on ram, hard drive or god forbid motherboard.