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The SOE curse
Samuraisword
Member Posts: 2,111
Everything they touch. PoTBS is next.
Seriously, this game lost a lot of interest from many players once SOE got involved.
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Well i don't really believe that since their only handling the Customer part and has nothing to do with the Development.
List of SOE lies
I can just see it now... The announcement that SOE has purchased GnH, to save it from languishing on the virtual shelf. Like a white knight they swoop in to save the day... and provide a bit more mediocrity for the Station Pass players.
-----Zero Punctuation Eve Online Review-----
That is what Sigil said about Vangaurd and look where that ended up. I am NOT saying that is the case here, but everyone saw that as a very likely outcome of the sigil/soe deal and the PE/SOE deal has many of the same characteristics.
Lots of people lost interest when SOE got involved. It doesn't matter how much PE and SOE spun the public relations about it, people saw the possibility.
I havent participated in these forums for a while now because of comments like these. Im no SOE fanboi and i dont play their games but it doesnt take a genious to know that your wayyy off.
Actually I hope that they do since I rather enjoyed my stay there.
$oE is like the bottom feeder of the mmo world. They have figured out it's easier to just scoop up everyone elses failed games rather than put up the cost of development. This would have just been the latest feather in the cap of the station pass all crap mmo pass.
I absolutely dispise SOE and their practices... but I did play beta and actually liked the way the game was progressing.
Sad to see it go..
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
SOE is buying G&H?
Very unlikely, I'd think. If that was the case, they wouldn't have walked away from G&H and reduced their role a few months ago.
Its a real curse!
If we see this happen again (SOE get involved with a MMO....cancelled) then we will know something is wrong.
I know that SOE had unprotected sex with all of your sisters and that they ran over your dog but it may be time to let it go.
SOE did not ruin G&H, bad development ruined it and since SOE wasnt developing it i guess that cuts them loose. SOE didnt ruin Vanguard, bad management ruined Vanguard, and since SOE was not in charge of Vanguard i guess that cuts SOE loose again.
You may think that all SOE creates is garbage but they created the one game that actually gave me years of satisfaction and actually made me want to play so i love them. And EQ2 has great numbers (and i am not one of them) so im sure plenty of people would argue for that one too.
Oh, and by the way, Vanguard has gotten tons better since SOE has owned it so i guess they are doing something else good too.
Im really sorry that SOE killed your Jedi game but get over it. Oh, and people are still playing that one too.
Errr yeah... Less then 50k people still plays SWG, as oppose to half a million a month after release... How dare you say a comment like this? As if SOE was a good thing for the industry in general... Wake up pal: the best thing that could ever happen is for SOE to get the fuck out of this business, and turn into dumping toxic waste in space instead. Chances are they won't be stupid enough to screw up what's already considered garbage...
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
Well i don't really believe that since their only handling the Customer part and has nothing to do with the Development.
youre wrong.
I wouldnt buy a game with the SOE logo on it, neither would I follow its developement...
so the SOE sign on a game plays a big role... and I know I am not the only one who feels this way
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
since the NGE-swg disaster, SOE is on the blacklist on many mmo players...
and they are defenitly not the minority mr. smedley
"You must be either retarded or a fanboi..."
And the illogical, and in many cases unfounded, SOE hate continues... rock on fellas.. what ever floats thine collective boat!
SOE canned MYTHICA so that Vanguard could move forward. This is a similar mistake of theirs. They are looking to just make money off of star trek fanatics, rather than make a fun, new and innovative game- in a genre that many of us want.
MYTHICA MY HEART IS WITH YOU ALWAYS, AND NOW YOU G&H. I will scribe your name in sheets of gold- so that generations to come will know of what you were to be for a hundred thousand years or more. I have tattood your gladiator class description into my very soul. Your beautiful graphics have left me helpless, vulnerable like a new born babe who suckles nourishment from his mothers bosom. This story takes a tragic turn however, and the baby is ripped away by clutching hands of evil and greedy men, and thrown over the castle walls to its death. ** Blowing my nose on my shirt** Gods and heroes, I thought I could never feel this way again, but you proved me wrong. Now I can only hear the laughter of satan in my ear, as he yanks something that I love from me once again. Im going to go to bed, and let my pillow rock me to sleep now.
mmmm yeeeah, thats greeat, a little to the left would be greeeat, ::sips coffee mug:::
Well apparently 50K people are still enjoying SWG, so let them enjoy it. This is my point.
It is understood that you, and many others hate SOE. So dont play there games. We who dont hate SOE understand that you do. Thats ok with us, we arent going to try to force you to play SOE games.
Unfortunetly many who hate SOE start to throw out random crap that is in no way accurate to further spread the hate of SOE.
Some examples:
SOE ruined EQ after they took it from Verant- False, Sony always owned Verant, from day 1.
SOE ruined EQ when they added Luclin and beyond- False, SOE changed EQ when they added that stuff. Some didnt like it but some did.
SOE did a horrible job with the release of EQ2- Ok, that was in true. But they also fixed it and it is a very popular game now.
SOE ruined Vanguard- False, hard to do when they didnt create Vanguard, they are trying to save it though
SOE ruined Gods and Heroes- The newest one, again hard for them to ruin a game that they had no hand in developing. Maybe that are evil enough to do it anyway though.
And the greatest to all SOE haters hearts: SOE ruined SWG with NGE. Perhaps this one is true, i never played the game. But i can pretty much guarentee that that was not there objective when they did it. I really doubt they wanted to lose money. If you want to blame someone for NGE blame WoW, that game is what caused some of the games that we loved to lower to the least common denominator with the hope of bringing in the millions of new MMO players.
So again, hate SOE if you want, its cool. But try to use facts when you do so. Reading SOE is the devil gets a little weak after the 1 billionth time.
And a game losing subs after 4 years (SWG) and 9+ years (EQ) isnt a sign that SOE sucks, it is a sign that the game is old.
SWG should have had a longer run rate.
mmmm yeeeah, thats greeat, a little to the left would be greeeat, ::sips coffee mug:::
Microsoft
Wasn't SOE their publisher? You guys should do your research of what a publisher does before posting BS like this.
Yes it's SOE's fault for helping smaller independent companies by financing their games. Lets forget the fact that 90% of MMOs that are released on the market suck and only focus on the ones SOE publish.
People need to think before they speak.
Its a curse, i tell you.
It was perpetuals idea to stop development.
Still....i dont like where this is going.....its not a good sign.
Think of all BS MMOs that is relesed.
Hi,
SoE is also responsible of Global Warming.
On a side note it is nice to see that some things never change, SoE was labeled as "the devil" since the EQ1 days back in 1999/2000.
Also, about SWG NGE, Lucas Arts is as "guilty" as SoE if not more.