warcry article

feldrin

http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/interviews/1944-AGDC-07-Star-Wars-Galaxies-Interview

I love the way they call the players the most specail element they want to bring back. lol

If they really want me to comeback it's real simple, PRE-CU.

BushMonkey

  Lol thats what i like about this place, always find something that gives you a good laugh. Bringing back all that special content lost with the Cunge like beastmaster. 

 hmm thought only 2% of the pop was CH when it was removed why put that crap back in its to unstarwarsy and uniconic.        And bringing back that most special element with it the players.

 That is priceless 

soecabal

And all of this is for naught. The shrunken SWG player base plus the far LARGER majority that quit over the CU and NGE still want their game back. Dribbles every 6 months is unacceptable.
Also, nothing has been done about bringing back what the NGE lacks that is the CORE of the problem: Open skills system... A combat system that is strategic, not button mashing, movement and combat that resembles reality, not Benny Hill on speed. Jedi meaning something... For those who don't know, Jedi used to be the pinnacle achievement not just in SWG, but that ANY player in ANY MMO could accomplish. It was nullified overnight with the NGE.
One of my friends pointed out that to watch the Star Wars movies in such a way as to make them resemble the current NGE SWG, you have to watch the thing in fast forward. And throw flashbangs at the screen whenever there is a combat scene. THAT is how bad a product SWG is and still is. Sure it's better now than it was when the NGE first came out. But how could it not have? That's not saying much.
Fact of the matter is, you could throw everything this Dev team has done in the last 2 years into the trash can, bring back the game as it was the day before the NGE, and they would get better press than they've ever had, more subscribers back than they will ever get no matter what they bolt onto the NGE, and a happier player base. What the Devs have done since the NGE is irrelevant because it's STILL the NGE, and we don't want it, never wanted it, never WILL want it.
Which is why, IMHO, they won't do it, even as classic servers.
The NGE game is still buggy as hell, broken, and ugly. Garish particle effects replace animations. Jedi fights resemble old men poking each other with canes at high speed. Mobs shoot through walls, hills, etc. And massive profession changes STILL happen, such as with Chapter 7's heroic mobs. The dev team in order to make their mobs a challenge saw fit to destroy the core abilities of one of the measely 7 combat professions left (Medic) instead of look at more innovative ways to do it.
This caused yet another forum and community meltdown.
Fact of the matter is, we've yet to see any proof at all of competence, much less brilliance, amongst managers and developers on the SWG team.
This is not going to get the job done.

That is an awesome comment posted to that article.  Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

Kazara

Another statement of rubbish in that article:

"What we're doing is, like the Beastmaster compared to the Creature Handler," said John Blakely, SOE-Austin's vice president of development. "The Beastmaster is a lot more deep, a lot more integrated into the gameplay, a lot more supportive of the other professions, and things like that.

"You know, being fans of the game ourselves, we wanted to get those things back in. but it's not just a revisit; it's an improvement. I mean if you look at the players who have returned during this housing pack up event, what you get is a lot of people saying, 'Wow, this is a lot better than CH.'

It is scarey to think that they ($OE) actually believe what they spew. Beastmaster is a watered down version of what CH was. It is ridiculously resource intensive, multi-component driven, time taking, and pricey, which does not make it 'fun'. The players wanted the original CH back, complete with creature babies and taming, but $OE was bent on NGE'ing it no matter what.

$OE still forces unwanted changes. The medic changes, although further adjusted, are still unwanted and many medics are respecing or cancelling. $OE always takes the path of least resistance...easier to nerf than be innovative - easier to be deaf as well. Cheaper too I suppose.

$OE dares not to bring classic servers on line....they would have to witness how quickly their NGE game collapses (not that they have that far to go)....the very thing they believe is a 'superior' game.

SioBabble

Originally posted by Kazara


Another statement of rubbish in that article:
 

"What we're doing is, like the Beastmaster compared to the Creature Handler," said John Blakely, SOE-Austin's vice president of development. "The Beastmaster is a lot more deep, a lot more integrated into the gameplay, a lot more supportive of the other professions, and things like that.
"You know, being fans of the game ourselves, we wanted to get those things back in. but it's not just a revisit; it's an improvement. I mean if you look at the players who have returned during this housing pack up event, what you get is a lot of people saying, 'Wow, this is a lot better than CH.'

 

It is scarey to think that they ($OE) actually believe what they spew. Beastmaster is a watered down version of what CH was. It is ridiculously resource intensive, multi-component driven, time taking, and pricey, which does not make it 'fun'. The players wanted the original CH back, complete with creature babies and taming, but $OE was bent on NGE'ing it no matter what.

$OE still forces unwanted changes. The medic changes, although further adjusted, are still unwanted and many medics are respecing or cancelling. $OE always takes the path of least resistance...easier to nerf than be innovative - easier to be deaf as well. Cheaper too I suppose.

$OE dares not to bring classic servers on line....they would have to witness how quickly their NGE game collapses (not that they have that far to go)....the very thing they believe is a 'superior' game.

John Blakely is an utter asshat.

Beast Master is a pathetic shadow compared to the glory that once was Creature Handler.

That statement basically invalidates everything else this twit mumbles.

Esquire1980

From the article;

"These efforts have resulted in a series of changes to the game, which, while moving things forward, can also be viewed as the reintegration of things lost in the past."

 

 

Isn't CHANGE what caused the game to tank in the 1st place?  They don't get it, never did, never will.  NGE is way beyond what they can CHANGE to get it back to what the befores were.  Only way to "fix" this, is with classic servers.  Or they are going to have community outrage everytime they try and implement one of their so called CHANGES.  IE;  The C6 COMBAT DOWNGRADE or medic anyone?

soecabal

Why do industry sites and publications still drink SOE's kool-aid?  These sorts of fluff pieces do NOTHING to restore SOE's deplorable reputation, the players know better, but they do much to discredit the site/publications who publish them.

 

NGESUCKS

Talk about not playing your own game lol.They actually think that beast master is compareable to creature handler and more indepth lol. I dont remember incubators and jurasic park/pokemon pre-cu as much as i do know and CH was a "proffession" not a a side skill pos like now.

0k21

SOE are a bunch of arseholes and anyone who works for them and considers themselves proud to be a part of what they're making should go and take a look at the kind of crap they've pulled on gamers and developers everywhere.

Shayde

The "Special" ones are the ones still playing that crap.

Yeah, I mean short-bus special.

 

First they apologize, then they pay Warcry for a fluff piece full of lies. They're shameless.

Obee

 

My only question, after reading that article (advertisement), is whether or not the author of the piece gave SOE a reach around while 'writing' it.

 

 

Dvol

Granted any article i read that has "SoE" or "Swg" in it, i tend to see it as pr spin. Those same words have been spewed since beta and continue to this day. Change.... Swg has changed so much and so many times it has no clue to what it wants to be. With each changed this game has taken a population hit, some more than other changes.

You would think after 100's of post saying " Dont change just fix bugs and add content" would finally hit a nerve or jump start a brain cell or two. My fave time in Swg has to be pub 8, its the most fond memories of the game. I cant recall any change( insert publish,chapter if you like) that didnt create more bugs than it was suppose to fix.

They can spew all the positive crap they want and it will fall on deaf ears and uncaring xvet player base. We want the game like it was before it was run into the ground. TBH id take it back as it was in Pub 8 with all the bugs and lack of content. At least during this time i lagged cause of all the players in one area. I cant recall a better game to have all ive ever looked for be totally 360'd into a real bad EqWoW clone.

Oh well i just sit back and wonder how anyone loses a fanbase when they could easily fix everything if they'd just listen for once. Precu or nothing no less no more...