The game was released in a beta-like state due to poor management and insufficient patience from SoE.
Pathetic.
People dont' pay $60 for a box to beta test a game. It took me a week to quit - how many times can you get killed in a game where death has a steep penalty by mobs that you can't hit because they are glitched out before you quit?
if you like punishment, and think that taking your licks and investing a ton of time somehow represent awesomeness, i feel sorry for you. Someone should have raised you with a more positive mindset. Games should be FUN, not WORK.
Anarchy Online was released in Beta form to the US players and it didn't get half the blasting this game as recieved.
A MMO is like life. It is something to cherish and enjoy upon in it journey. So why race to the end of it. In life at the end you die.
Vanguard suffered from a twofold problem at launch. The game was no where near complete, and that was reality. But the hype machine was in motion and billing it as "The Greatest Game Ever!" . It's fall can be charted using the huge gap between the real and the hype.
The hype, added an extra helping of insult to injury. Like telling people "Get ready to taste the most delicious chocolate pudding ever!" and then feeding them a spoonful of bubbling hot tar.
hyp·ing, noun Informal. –verb (used with object)
1.
to stimulate, excite, or agitate (usually fol. by up): She was hyped up at the thought of owning her own car.
2.
to create interest in by flamboyant or dramatic methods; promote or publicize showily: a promoter who knows how to hype a prizefight.
3.
to intensify (advertising, promotion, or publicity) by ingenious or questionable claims, methods, etc. (usually fol. by up).
4.
to trick; gull.
–noun
5.
exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
6.
an ingenious or questionable claim, method, etc., used in advertising, promotion, or publicity to intensify the effect.
7.
a swindle, deception, or trick.
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he will eat for a month!
The game was released in a beta-like state due to poor management and insufficient patience from SoE.
Pathetic.
People dont' pay $60 for a box to beta test a game. It took me a week to quit - how many times can you get killed in a game where death has a steep penalty by mobs that you can't hit because they are glitched out before you quit?
if you like punishment, and think that taking your licks and investing a ton of time somehow represent awesomeness, i feel sorry for you. Someone should have raised you with a more positive mindset. Games should be FUN, not WORK.
Anarchy Online was released in Beta form to the US players and it didn't get half the blasting this game as recieved.
That is a different story. AO is launched into a world which has not seen the full complexity of big games like WoW, nor have we enjoy the smooth launchs of Lotro.
VG was hailed as the revamped EQ, the WoW killer, and was introduced to fully mature players who has developed much higher expectation. Unfortunately VG was in no way what it was advertised to be.
orthedos...there are plenty of legit sites that reviewed vanguard with a 6 rating and stuff like that...im talking about the wesbites that gave the game things like 2/10...3/10.....those kinds of reviews I have also read, and in many the reviewer states they didnt even make it past level 20...they didnt even try to get into the game. So someone who is reviewing a game, yet doesnt take the time to fully explore it...is a noob IMO
I have seen really really really bad games get 3/10 and stuff, but VG does not deserve that... its just because those reviewers were all mad, and used to warcraft and other easier games.
of course im not a game reviewer, thats not my job, and this post isnt a game review.
In its current state VG would be lucky to recieve hell.... a 6 maybe 6.5/10 from me....but thats still not "horrible" and the game has many mechanics and great style, open exploration, class choices, char creation, races and more that really makes it stand out from the rest in the MMORPG market (for now)
I stick by with what I said man, VG never had horrible reviews by LEGIT sites....any sites that give VG a 3/10 were just purly people hating the game to the point where they didnt even try to make a good review, and many of them admit this.
orthedos...there are plenty of legit sites that reviewed vanguard with a 6 rating and stuff like that...im talking about the wesbites that gave the game things like 2/10...3/10.....those kinds of reviews I have also read, and in many the reviewer states they didnt even make it past level 20...they didnt even try to get into the game. So someone who is reviewing a game, yet doesnt take the time to fully explore it...is a noob IMO I have seen really really really bad games get 3/10 and stuff, but VG does not deserve that... its just because those reviewers were all mad, and used to warcraft and other easier games. of course im not a game reviewer, thats not my job, and this post isnt a game review. In its current state VG would be lucky to recieve hell.... a 6 maybe 6.5/10 from me....but thats still not "horrible" and the game has many mechanics and great style, open exploration, class choices, char creation, races and more that really makes it stand out from the rest in the MMORPG market (for now) I stick by with what I said man, VG never had horrible reviews by LEGIT sites....any sites that give VG a 3/10 were just purly people hating the game to the point where they didnt even try to make a good review, and many of them admit this.
Cool, I see your reason now, you are making better reason for reading.
OK you feel a few is LEGIT to you, and you doubt some of the rest. No argument to that, we all make our own judgment. I respect that, and we all got to understand that those reviewers giving out 3/10 have their own views, their own expectations, their own history of playing MMOs. I would not ditch them just b/c they give VG 3/10. Nor would I call them non LEGIT. My own stand on the issue. Your stand is noted.
As for the quality of VG at launch, quite a sizable portion of players agree its bad. The entire guild I joined (of 100+ players) vanished within the free first month, some gave up during beta. All 100+ players were active 24/7 type of player, you know, those that raids 3 times a week, PVP when we were not raiding, or crafting mining when solo. We moved to VG thinking we can forge a presence there and the leader recruited a lot more during beta. Before launch many were deeply disappointed. We basically give up guild plans to level within a week of live VG, by week 3 only a few remained. None of us pay for the first subscription, we moved en bloc to another game. This is my experience, and based on that, I am not suspicious of reviewers handing out 3/10.
The game HAS potential, we all agree, we being our guild. We all loved it even tho we were frustrated by the endless bugs and oddities that vested the beta, we hope things will improve with launch, but no, it does not improve. No one in the guild believe the game can be "enjoyable" in a year, and no one wants to spend a year waiting for Sigil to do it. Why would I be paying for a game that is not enjoyable now, in the hope that eventually we will be able to find some fun in it.
Yes in 10 years maybe VG is the best game on earth, we can never rule it out, I for one do not believe in it, but that means just my view. So what? Do we need to pay for it now? We can always resubscribe 10 years later if some one magically bring VG around. In the meantime, I for one got enough games to play that I enjoy and that is what I will be doing. I have checked VG time and again, whenever some friends got a chance to play VG for free. No one so far ended up subscribing, no one I know would dish out money for this game, except as part of Station pass. We all regret the $60 we pay for the box.
VG still have a long way to go, and the longer it takes, the more remote its chance of getting back on its feet. Sad sad sad. I really love the first day I log onto VG, I specifically built a new rig to run it, and was amazed at the character selection screen ... Wooo so many races, what do I do? How sad the feeling does not last long. VG could have been the one.
Anyone still playing this game is guilty of letting the industry know that consumers are prepared to pay for an unfinished, buggy and overhyped game. Shame on you. Vanguard failed, let it die.
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Anarchy Online was released in Beta form to the US players and it didn't get half the blasting this game as recieved.
A MMO is like life. It is something to cherish and enjoy upon in it journey. So why race to the end of it. In life at the end you die.
Vanguard suffered from a twofold problem at launch. The game was no where near complete, and that was reality. But the hype machine was in motion and billing it as "The Greatest Game Ever!" . It's fall can be charted using the huge gap between the real and the hype.
The hype, added an extra helping of insult to injury. Like telling people "Get ready to taste the most delicious chocolate pudding ever!" and then feeding them a spoonful of bubbling hot tar.
hyp·ing, noun Informal. –verb (used with object)
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he will eat for a month!
That is a different story. AO is launched into a world which has not seen the full complexity of big games like WoW, nor have we enjoy the smooth launchs of Lotro.Anarchy Online was released in Beta form to the US players and it didn't get half the blasting this game as recieved.
VG was hailed as the revamped EQ, the WoW killer, and was introduced to fully mature players who has developed much higher expectation. Unfortunately VG was in no way what it was advertised to be.
orthedos...there are plenty of legit sites that reviewed vanguard with a 6 rating and stuff like that...im talking about the wesbites that gave the game things like 2/10...3/10.....those kinds of reviews I have also read, and in many the reviewer states they didnt even make it past level 20...they didnt even try to get into the game. So someone who is reviewing a game, yet doesnt take the time to fully explore it...is a noob IMO
I have seen really really really bad games get 3/10 and stuff, but VG does not deserve that... its just because those reviewers were all mad, and used to warcraft and other easier games.
of course im not a game reviewer, thats not my job, and this post isnt a game review.
In its current state VG would be lucky to recieve hell.... a 6 maybe 6.5/10 from me....but thats still not "horrible" and the game has many mechanics and great style, open exploration, class choices, char creation, races and more that really makes it stand out from the rest in the MMORPG market (for now)
I stick by with what I said man, VG never had horrible reviews by LEGIT sites....any sites that give VG a 3/10 were just purly people hating the game to the point where they didnt even try to make a good review, and many of them admit this.
I play all ghame
Cool, I see your reason now, you are making better reason for reading.
OK you feel a few is LEGIT to you, and you doubt some of the rest. No argument to that, we all make our own judgment. I respect that, and we all got to understand that those reviewers giving out 3/10 have their own views, their own expectations, their own history of playing MMOs. I would not ditch them just b/c they give VG 3/10. Nor would I call them non LEGIT. My own stand on the issue. Your stand is noted.
As for the quality of VG at launch, quite a sizable portion of players agree its bad. The entire guild I joined (of 100+ players) vanished within the free first month, some gave up during beta. All 100+ players were active 24/7 type of player, you know, those that raids 3 times a week, PVP when we were not raiding, or crafting mining when solo. We moved to VG thinking we can forge a presence there and the leader recruited a lot more during beta. Before launch many were deeply disappointed. We basically give up guild plans to level within a week of live VG, by week 3 only a few remained. None of us pay for the first subscription, we moved en bloc to another game. This is my experience, and based on that, I am not suspicious of reviewers handing out 3/10.
The game HAS potential, we all agree, we being our guild. We all loved it even tho we were frustrated by the endless bugs and oddities that vested the beta, we hope things will improve with launch, but no, it does not improve. No one in the guild believe the game can be "enjoyable" in a year, and no one wants to spend a year waiting for Sigil to do it. Why would I be paying for a game that is not enjoyable now, in the hope that eventually we will be able to find some fun in it.
Yes in 10 years maybe VG is the best game on earth, we can never rule it out, I for one do not believe in it, but that means just my view. So what? Do we need to pay for it now? We can always resubscribe 10 years later if some one magically bring VG around. In the meantime, I for one got enough games to play that I enjoy and that is what I will be doing. I have checked VG time and again, whenever some friends got a chance to play VG for free. No one so far ended up subscribing, no one I know would dish out money for this game, except as part of Station pass. We all regret the $60 we pay for the box.
VG still have a long way to go, and the longer it takes, the more remote its chance of getting back on its feet. Sad sad sad. I really love the first day I log onto VG, I specifically built a new rig to run it, and was amazed at the character selection screen ... Wooo so many races, what do I do? How sad the feeling does not last long. VG could have been the one.
Shame on you.
Vanguard failed, let it die.