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madrandomize
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After all those years of the game servers running ,will i enjoy the game if i start today?
Will i ever be competitive and have fun pvping or i will always be the new guy that lacks skills and ships and money?
Also 1 other question,is a new server ever gonna be introduced for new players to join from the start?
Thanx in advance for your answers ,depending on those i might or might not start the game 
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If you join a pvp-corp you will be usefull in pvp after about a week, depending on the character you built.
and no, there will never be a second server except for the chinese. This is one world with one history, and ccp wont split the community on two servers
The biggest problem you'll face at the start is money, or ISK in this case. New characters now start with about a months worth of skill training, so starting Eve now is much better than it was back in 2005 or before.
As a new player, if you want to be competitive in PVP, you're going to need to find a corporation who will help train you which will help greatly, and you will fly alongside your corp buddies for some PVP action, solo PVP will be out of the question for a couple months at least until you establish yourself.
You can start the game now, and you'll enjoy the experience. Don't let the age of the game deter you, with massive game updates every 3-6months, the game still seems fresh and CCP have not yet achieved how Eve will become in a couple years time.
CCP would shoot themselves in the foot if they were to release a seperate server. It will simply never happen because a large part of the games success is from their being only a single world. They've spent alot of time and money to upgrade their servers and to update the game client to improve network performance, and furthermore when the new graphics overhaul update called Trinity is released.
simple answer..
1.Yes...well maybe...how should I know what you like?
2a. Yes
2b. The game gives you all the tools you need for success, and how you use them will effect how long and successful your stay in EvE will be ^^.
3.No
Glad I could help you out ^^.
you should just wait for the white wolf/ccp "world of darkness" mmo to come out and start on the same playing field as everyone else.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
So ill try for a honest answer bearing in mind im an EvE fan myself. Your first Question of, "After all those years of the game servers running ,will i enjoy the game if i start today?". Well to be honest this one is hard to answer as i dont know you personally but i can tell you that the tutorial is nessasarilly loong and because of the time based skill advancment it can take a while before you Can really get started.
However if you find a good player run corperation fast then that shold help you cash wise which is the main grind in eve.
Now to your second question, "Will i ever be competitive and have fun pvping or i will always be the new guy that lacks skills and ships and money?". Goon news here with the right training you can compete. this is mainly because of the way skills work but basically a veteren player in a uber ship will only be using a small percentage of his aquired skills to fly such a ship while the rest of his skills will be offline while in that ship. So yea given a littel training in the right areas you can potentially own some vets within a few months [about 3].
And to your last question concerning the possability of a new server well im sorry to say that this wont be ever happening. You see one of the things that makes EvE unique is the fact that its all ONE unsharded uninstanced server. This makes for a trully diverse and above all populated server population.
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I respect all the answer here, but let me disagree.
From my point of view, the right answer, and you should try it, is NO, you will never be competitive.
You may will have fun, ill give you that. The game is really great, the best i saw, and i saw a lot. But the real sad true is that the game skill training sistem will dont let you to be competitive with old players. Why? because you will never be at same level. Skills affect all the game, so you will be under old players forever.
The only thing you can do to not be crashed is to find a God Father. Else, forget the fun aspect.
About the new server, somebody said that this is a one history with one world for ever. He forgot to say that is a not people growing world.
Being the best MMORPG in all history, this comunity is not growing. They are always making free trail offers, and making the game even better, but the comunity dont grow like other famous games. Why? because you try the game, you get in love, you understand you can't do your own path, and you quit.
New server will come, and the "one history guy" will create a char there if he is not an old server player.
I recomend you try the game even knowing this, because the game is really good, and every MMORPG player have to know this game to have a good reference how another game have to be.
Yes there is and you wont have any problems starting just get into a corp and you will be fine but make sure you look at what you want to train and think ahead of time or you will just waste time look or training on things you don't need want or use, you can get into a Battleship within 2 weeks(max) and get into T2 within a month or so. The game is great fun and all you should get use to it quickly.
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I respect all the answer here, but let me disagree.
From my point of view, the right answer, and you should try it, is NO, you will never be competitive.
You may will have fun, ill give you that. The game is really great, the best i saw, and i saw a lot. But the real sad true is that the game skill training sistem will dont let you to be competitive with old players. Why? because you will never be at same level. Skills affect all the game, so you will be under old players forever.
The only thing you can do to not be crashed is to find a God Father. Else, forget the fun aspect.
About the new server, somebody said that this is a one history with one world for ever. He forgot to say that is a not people growing world.
Being the best MMORPG in all history, this comunity is not growing. They are always making free trail offers like every other MMO, and making the game even better, but the comunity dont grow like other famous games. Why? because you try the game, you get in love, you understand you can't do your own path, and you quit.
New server will come, and the "one history guy" will create a char there if he is not an old server player.
I recomend you try the game even knowing this, because the game is really good, and every MMORPG player have to know this game to have a good reference how another game have to be.
A pretty accurate post really exept for the bits i didnt highlight of course. You didnt even use good english so i couldnt get a full understanding of your post [tho i do accept the possability that english isant your first language] but i strongly suspect you havent really played EvE at all especially considering he bit where yuo glibly say that EvE's community isant growing.
Anyway nice troll attempt at discouraging a new palyer let him make his own decisions and stop feeling your MMO that you paly is threatened as i doubt both of ower games are not competing for the same audience.
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Retired from: Neocron, Everquest, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, RF Online and Final Fantasy VII
Currently Playing : EvE Online.
One of the greatest misconceptions of Eve Online, is that new players will never catch up with older players, but you should not view the game in this way, this game has hundreds of skills and dozens of roles for all kinds of players, older players can fulfil more roles, but you can only play a single role at a time.
For starters, older players have been able to specialise in many areas of the game as they seek new content, fighting, mining, crafting, researching and such, new players should ideally focus specialising in a single area, if you concentrate on developing combat related skills only, you can quickly become a competent target in a fight.
A player with 30million skillpoints versus a player with just 10 million skillpoints, is not going to lose the fight just because he has 20 million skillpoints less than his opponent. The players experience, knowledge of the game and the type of ship and it's fitting really will determine the outcome of a fight, not how many skillpoints you have up your sleeve.
Also, all the ships come with a limited amount of CPU, Powergrid, Low, Medium and High slots, which determine how much and what can be fitted onto your ship like weapons and modules. A character with 40 million skill points is only able to fit so much onto his ship just as a new player can, and when that older player undocks in his kitted ship, he is not utilising all his 40million skillpoints because the ships always limit you by what can be fitted onto them, yet the older player may use tech 2 items which use up more CPU and Powergrid, and the new player will use tech 1 which have lower CPU and Powergrid requirements.
This is what evens out the PVP in Eve, skillpoints give you the advantge in combat, but it does not make you unstoppable, although if their ship is much bigger than yours, it's always best to flee.
I respect all the answer here, but let me disagree.
From my point of view, the right answer, and you should try it, is NO, you will never be competitive.
You may will have fun, ill give you that. The game is really great, the best i saw, and i saw a lot. But the real sad true is that the game skill training sistem will dont let you to be competitive with old players. Why? because you will never be at same level. Skills affect all the game, so you will be under old players forever.
The only thing you can do to not be crashed is to find a God Father. Else, forget the fun aspect.
About the new server, somebody said that this is a one history with one world for ever. He forgot to say that is a not people growing world.
Being the best MMORPG in all history, this comunity is not growing. They are always making free trail offers, and making the game even better, but the comunity dont grow like other famous games. Why? because you try the game, you get in love, you understand you can't do your own path, and you quit.
New server will come, and the "one history guy" will create a char there if he is not an old server player.
I recomend you try the game even knowing this, because the game is really good, and every MMORPG player have to know this game to have a good reference how another game have to be.
Meh, ignore most of this ..... I've been playing EVE for 5 months now...and i kill people, even veteran BOB players....just takes teamwork within your corp.....EVE isn't about solo fighting (though some go that route to be sure), its really about coordinated combat, flying the right ship at the right time, fitted with the right modules.... oh yeah..and a sprinkle of tactics and brains....
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Along with what everybody else has said, EVE allows the trading of characters for ingame currency.
I know several corpmates who were able to make a lot of isk and purchase 30m+ sp characters after playing for about a year. Also if you are in a good sized corp, any corpmate looking to sell a character will usually offer it to corpmates first (and usually for a better price), before trying to sell it to the general public.
The biggest misconception in my eyes is that people think you have be have as high sp as others to compete, or fly a battleship with t2-gear.
I just had some fun with a t1-Frigate..an Atron can reach 3km/s and dish out some nice damage..
i can vouch for that "the more skill points not nessicaraly better" i Lost a Navy Issue Battleship to a 3 month old player in a tech 2 friget and i have been playing for 14 months
Again depends on what path and who trains you that will make you a reasonable PVP'er in no time
shannigans. no t2 frig can do enough dps to kill even a poorly fitted navy issue. (unless you had rats on you as well.)
lets say your cnr is fitted for gurista and he has that crazy amarrian as with its insane dps of more than 250..it is well possible to do that..you cant tank lets say 200dps (the em-part) going through your resists even in a cnr, if you dont have factionmods.
now lets imagine he didnt have a cnr but..a navy megathron with neutron blasters and was too much in a hurry that he kept firing at the assaultfrig with them instead of saving his cap for the tank, a single blasterenyo could have taken him down!
Not very likely though..
Yes, as you can see, english is not my first lenguage, but, obviosly you got it all. Is not my opinion when i say comunity is not growing (and if you read all, say in perfect english: "dont grow like other famous games" ) is a fact, that everybody knows. I played enought to know that is imposible that the game, exactly like is right now can grow too much, because is just one server, where 20,000 people play simultaneosly sometimes. That is an small number im afraid. (please dont remember me that is a record considering one server, i know it and i respect it. We are talking about the comunity, and in that matter, is a really small number.)
By the way, to be your first lenguage, you write it really bad. About reading, you did your own confesion im afraid.
EVE will be a difficult game to get into if you start playing it, and expect to be able to compete right away. If you play the game to learn what you can do, rather than expect it to happen the day you play then you'll enjoy it.
That's not everyone's thing, some people have no patience and are not willing to learn what EVE can offer. It takes time to learn the game, despite what some people might say it's not all about click F1, F2, F2 etc... you have to learn how to set up your ship and learn what those modules and guns do, for and against other ships.
There is a 14 Day Free Trial out there, but I think you need longer than that to experience what the game can offer. Like I said though, it can be difficult to get into, it took my friends a second try to get into the game (they all regretted not playing the first time too, as they could have had a few more skill points
) and now they won't try anything else. 
-iCeh
You can but you will always feel left out to some degree. You will always wish you started sooner and were able to fly such and such types of ships with such and such kinds of modules. You either need to ASAP or stay away.
That is not a "misconception", it is entirely true.
The best that a new player can do is lessen the gap.
The skill based system in EVE is one of it's best things, but the implementation is one of it's greatest drawbacks. And that is simply because no matter how much or how little you play, you will not progress any faster than someone that logs on once a month to change skills.
The "same rate for everyone" is unlike any other mmo, and I think it is one of the major reasons why EVE has such a terrifice churn rate for players compared to nearly all other games.
There are many things that could be done to fix that, such as a small boost when you are logged on, missions that give SP, and many other things, but none of them will ever be done I am afraid.
One of the ulterior motives behind the recent "2 for 1" offer by ccp was in effect, to reduce the training time for specialized skills, or more exactly to spread them out to make it seemess tedious.
A noobie should not be able to come into EVE and be the equal of someone playing for 4 years - but neither should there be absolutely no chance in hell of ever catching up.
As someone noted earlier: "but the comunity dont grow like other famous games. Why? because you try the game, you get in love, you understand you can't do your own path, and you quit...." is very true. While I have seen peaks of 37k online for brief periods, it never lasts long and it can never seem to really sustain over 33k or so for anything more than a day or two.
That is pure baloney. Unless the ship was almost totaly stripped and the pilot was afk, the shield/armor regen rate alone makes it almost impossible for a frig to take down a navy BS.
That is pure baloney. Unless the ship was almost totaly stripped and the pilot was afk, the shield/armor regen rate alone makes it almost impossible for a frig to take down a navy BS.
And yet this sort of things happens every day many times to all types of veteren players be it the 14 month one or the 4 year one whether AFK or while hunting for prey. Sorry im ging to ahve to call balloney on your 2 posts as they are full of it.Next time actually play EvE to see if what you say is true or not because right now you are comming over as someone who as far as reserch goes just read the posts on these forums including the troll posts.
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Retired from: Neocron, Everquest, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, RF Online and Final Fantasy VII
Currently Playing : EvE Online.
Race Calldari Gender Female Bloodline Deteis Date Of Birth 2003.05.07 19:20:00
Skillpoints 82,543,168
Try again.,...
Kimi
Caldari Deteis Female
Omiracon Technologies
As of 16/10/2007 00:52 WST
99 Skills / 4,764,384 SP
Care to explain this discrepancy?
Also, you have an interesting corp history. With your first for over 4 years, then suddenly you've changed corps twice in the last month. A four year hiatus would explain the SP listed on inEVE.net. First thing you did after leaving you corp mates of 4 years is found your own, but gave up instantly. Your "specialized miner" alt is barely over a month old, and was made just before you started switching corps.
I'm in the business of letting poeple make their own conclusions, but mine does not exactly increase my view of your credibility.
Race Calldari Gender Female Bloodline Deteis Date Of Birth 2003.05.07 19:20:00
Skillpoints 82,543,168
Try again.,...
Nice, congratulations Laiina. Seems to be that MR-Bubbles consider himself the only eve player. Dissagree means to be a troll. That is really sad.