Your beta experiences aside, I've actually been in quite a few groups in the release state of Tabula Rasa. It's not so very solo-centric. In fact, even when soloing, I've run into a lot of players who like assisting eachother. A capture point assault/defense is very communal even when a team isn't involved.
I mean, until you have told me otherwise, I was having a blast on my third time through this game! On top of that, I have met some great people and have many friends playing this game. My wife is having a blast here as well and we are both heavy socializers. I'm just glad someone informed me that the game is shallow and lacks social content, because playing it I would have never known.
Hexxeity's beta experiences aside, I've actually been in quite a few groups in the release state of Tabula Rasa. It's not so very solo-centric. In fact, even when soloing, I've run into a lot of players who like assisting eachother. A capture point assault/defense is very communal even when a team isn't involved.
Exactly. Even as soloable as this game is, it's far more social than most other mmorpgs. Unless you define social as a glorified chat room... then so be it, I'd rather have a sense of WANTING to help each other, which is definitely present in TR.
TR by all means is a good casual game - when its free. Maybe at the most I'd pay for the box but this MMO IS NO WHERE near worth the cost to play monthly. It's one of those games were your bored and decide to log in and kill some thing and do some quests. Then after you log off you can go days even weeks without playing it b/c its really not that interesting/fun to play it daily.They def. would get alot more boxes sold (and more people playing it) if it were a free game (minus the box fee). But that way they wouldn't get as much money and what company wants to do a strat that would net them less money when they know they could suck dry its fan base by having players pay for a C grade game.
TR by all means is a good casual game - when its free. Maybe at the most I'd pay for the box but this MMO IS NO WHERE near worth the cost to play monthly. It's one of those games were your bored and decide to log in and kill some thing and do some quests. Then after you log off you can go days even weeks without playing it b/c its really not that interesting/fun to play it daily.They def. would get alot more boxes sold (and more people playing it) if it were a free game (minus the box fee). But that way they wouldn't get as much money and what company wants to do a strat that would net them less money when they know they could suck dry its fan base by having players pay for a C grade game.
But see, that's your opinion.
There's a lot of people playing right now that think it's well worth the box fee AND the monthly fee.
I'd pay twice as much as they are asking. It's that good. But see, that's my opinion.
Thankfully, there are out there games for the both of us
It's not so very solo-centric. In fact, even when soloing, I've run into a lot of players who like assisting eachother. A capture point assault/defense is very communal even when a team isn't involved.
True statements!
And you can actually HELP a complete stranger by attacking whatever they are fighting.... You just make sure they do the majority of the damage!
Can't count the number of times I have done that.
There is goodwill in the act.
The uninitiated may believe others are trying to KS... Not always true. You can work the system rather than the system working you.
Don't worry, fanbois! There seem to be enough of you that the game will survive long enough to actually become good. They will eventually correct the level of challenge and add more content, right? They might not ever make it less solo-centric, in which case I'll never play, but there are plenty of anti-social gamers out there who will love it.
I love the "solo-centric" and "anti-social gamers" comment.
Some of us have family, jobs and fairly busy lives and therefore when it comes to games in general, not just MMO's we don't have the time needed to invest hours on end grinding, questing, massive group pvp, ect...
Therefore it's very nice when some games make it so if you would like to group with friends you may when you have the TIME. However if you are very busy and would like to do "solo-centric" gaming you may do so.
If you want a game that is just designed for grouping, may I suggest the PvP in Guild Wars as there is no real solo PvP content. There are also many other MMO's that are definetely not "solo-centric", EQII comes to mind as does countless other games.
Me for my part I guess i'll continue to be "anti-social" when I don't have the time.
I'd pay twice as much as they are asking. It's that good. But see, that's my opinion.
you are the sort of suck^H^Hbscriber the devs are banking on
congratulations, you have more money than sense
this is NOT worth the asking price. If it was a one-off like GuildWars then it would be worth buying, but a 15 buck a month subscription? No, absolutely not worth it at all. Maybe in 6 months when its matured beyong the pay-to-beta stage, but not right now, not by any stretch of the imagination
While everyone's opinion on the gameplay is different, to call the game unfinished is just blatant lying or being misinformed.
I've played nearly every major MMO launched in the past 5 years and I have to say that TR is as polished as any major MMO launched during that time. Everything works, there is tons of content and all game systems are working.
If you think it's boring and repetitive and unoriginal, that's your opinion and more power to ya. But if you say it's unfinished or unpolished, you are simply full of s*** and out to troll. Or maybe you didn't play it on launch.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
I'd pay twice as much as they are asking. It's that good. But see, that's my opinion.
you are the sort of suck^H^Hbscriber the devs are banking on
congratulations, you have more money than sense
this is NOT worth the asking price. If it was a one-off like GuildWars then it would be worth buying, but a 15 buck a month subscription? No, absolutely not worth it at all. Maybe in 6 months when its matured beyong the pay-to-beta stage, but not right now, not by any stretch of the imagination
GW and TR aren't even close enough in playability to be compared let alone and considered the same model. As for the asking price, if you can point me to the closest MMORPG/FPS that plays like TR for less, and no monthly fee, please do so... I haven't been able to find anything close to this though DDO was the closest in terms of action, but didn't quite give me the rush that TR does.
Personally, I think TR is worth what they are charging. Also from beta testing other games, TR is actually quite solid and very playable, but thats doesn't necessarily mean that its perfect. Sure it has some tweaking to do, some fixes, but o have many many games when launched. I have yet to buy a game (MMO, FPS, RTS) that didn't have patches out within a month to correct issues. I wouldn't expect anything less from the devs at TR.
I too am looking forward to seeing what is brought to the tables a few months down the line.
I'd pay twice as much as they are asking. It's that good. But see, that's my opinion.
you are the sort of suck^H^Hbscriber the devs are banking on
congratulations, you have more money than sense
this is NOT worth the asking price. If it was a one-off like GuildWars then it would be worth buying, but a 15 buck a month subscription? No, absolutely not worth it at all. Maybe in 6 months when its matured beyong the pay-to-beta stage, but not right now, not by any stretch of the imagination
GW and TR aren't even close enough in playability to be compared let alone and considered the same model. As for the asking price, if you can point me to the closest MMORPG/FPS that plays like TR for less, and no monthly fee, please do so... I haven't been able to find anything close to this though DDO was the closest in terms of action, but didn't quite give me the rush that TR does.
Personally, I think TR is worth what they are charging. Also from beta testing other games, TR is actually quite solid and very playable, but thats doesn't necessarily mean that its perfect. Sure it has some tweaking to do, some fixes, but o have many many games when launched. I have yet to buy a game (MMO, FPS, RTS) that didn't have patches out within a month to correct issues. I wouldn't expect anything less from the devs at TR.
I too am looking forward to seeing what is brought to the tables a few months down the line.
NeoCron II has a ton more features and plays somewhat the same and is 9 dollars a month and the game is free. They are working on a patch to improve the storyline and pvp aspect atm to the NeoCron 1 format.. should be nice.
PlanetSide is ok, less RPG and more shoot'em up in my Tank and Mech with my buddy in a ship for airsupport type game... its F2P but has a level cap. the game is free... once u go P2P you kan pass that lvl cap. I wasnt really into PvP and i still had fun.. even when i was running from a bomber aircraft and had my lil launcher trying to take out a ground tank.. they shot them things up my ass and it was over but i last pretty long.. i used alot tree cover. fun game.
If they were to update PS graphics, which are nice, but make them slightly more up2date... it would make TR look so wrong, it would be pretty much jaw dropping.
Both PS and NC 2.2have a larg mass of vehicles you kan drive.. even in the single digits levels.. so no waiting, a grown man should kno how to drive a 4wheeler or bike at least.. why wait till level 40? You kan even make them in NC
The problem with Neocron (1 or 2) is the very low server populations. I do have some fond memories of that game, though. But it also suffers from bugs, small game world, and lack of real content.
I mean it has plenty of real content and yea.. that last patch did do it wrong but that seems to happen in all the MMO's I play but at least I know the dev is working on a patch to move everything to the NC one cycle but still keep all the new content and add a few extras.. which is why TR kinda shocks me... to be a pay 2 play game and promise so much pre-release and to kum out so basic.
A poor crafting system and sense you've played NC you know how advance theirs is.. from BluePrinting any device and/or armor to researching rare tech parts to make "hidden" weapons.. driving ATVs, Jetpacks, ...it has a bar, a club, and the player housing is insane. if only you kould lay down in tha bed .
I'm sure TR will add more content, hopefully... not sure what they'll add exactly but I know it will probably remain the same(as it is) for at least 6 months or so and odds are some new bugs will show up in the next patch b/c i kinda feel on the back of my neck that they are rushing and anyone knows a rushed patch is a buggy one.
They are going to have to fight to add more content if they want to keep the bulk of their players stuck to the game. With the 50 dollar out of box price and at least 2 months of play 30 dollars.. you're already at $80 bucks just to grind.. I dont see anyone playing this game for years and years like WoW (which i've never played) or NeoCron.
But if you got $100or so dollars to burn, game+2 or 3 months of playtime, then I say go at it.. it is a fun game if not single player linear but extremly enjoyable.. just really wish they would think about tha fact that they have a price for it and really add more content.. i think for tha amount of money.. the player IMO, would deserve it.
A single player with a multiplayer aspect for peer 2 peer with say a friend would be just as fun. and minus the monthly fee. They got the NPC helping you out pretty good and it wouldnt take much to add that to other areas.
I had tried Neocron 2, and I was far from impressed. If there was a game to be called out to for being a game released in a Beta state, this would be it as well. I had crashed over 9 times attempting to create a character, then once created.... meh. A laundry list of bugs, poor performance and lack of any real RPG element for me let alone the MMO part. Granted it seemed interesting (and I was gun-ho ready to adopt it) but it just didn't grab me.
Planetside, I had never played either but if you Vaden say its just like TR, then I may try it out. From what I read, and heard it isn't anywhere close, but thats all hearsay.
TR still in my book is the only game so far to capture my attention for this specific genre. All others just seemed to fall short.
The problem with Neocron (1 or 2) is the very low server populations. I do have some fond memories of that game, though. But it also suffers from bugs, small game world, and lack of real content.
I mean it has plenty of real content and yea.. that last patch did do it wrong but that seems to happen in all the MMO's I play but at least I know the dev is working on a patch to move everything to the NC one cycle but still keep all the new content and add a few extras.. which is why TR kinda shocks me... to be a pay 2 play game and promise so much pre-release and to kum out so basic.
A poor crafting system and sense you've played NC you know how advance theirs is.. from BluePrinting any device and/or armor to researching rare tech parts to make "hidden" weapons.. driving ATVs, Jetpacks, ...it has a bar, a club, and the player housing is insane. if only you kould lay down in tha bed .
I'm sure TR will add more content, hopefully... not sure what they'll add exactly but I know it will probably remain the same(as it is) for at least 6 months or so and odds are some new bugs will show up in the next patch b/c i kinda feel on the back of my neck that they are rushing and anyone knows a rushed patch is a buggy one.
They are going to have to fight to add more content if they want to keep the bulk of their players stuck to the game. With the 50 dollar out of box price and at least 2 months of play 30 dollars.. you're already at $80 bucks just to grind.. I dont see anyone playing this game for years and years like WoW (which i've never played) or NeoCron.
But if you got $100or so dollars to burn, game+2 or 3 months of playtime, then I say go at it.. it is a fun game if not single player linear but extremly enjoyable.. just really wish they would think about tha fact that they have a price for it and really add more content.. i think for tha amount of money.. the player IMO, would deserve it.
A single player with a multiplayer aspect for peer 2 peer with say a friend would be just as fun. and minus the monthly fee. They got the NPC helping you out pretty good and it wouldnt take much to add that to other areas.
I've no idea what you're comparing TR to in terms of content. For your $50 TR has as much if not more content than 98% of games released. You buy something like KOTOR, BioShock or Crysis and you have under a week of content, if that.
As far as value for your money, TR content beats pretty much everything on the market for the first month. And if you've run out after the first month - well, the $15 is optional. If you feel that you've done all the content in a month, no need to pay the monthly fee.
TR in terms of size, the number of quests and character skills is very much on par with all other major MMORPG releases - EQ2 / WoW / LoTRO and ahead of many of the crap releases - VG, DnL, AA, etc.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
Don't worry, fanbois! There seem to be enough of you that the game will survive long enough to actually become good. They will eventually correct the level of challenge and add more content, right? They might not ever make it less solo-centric, in which case I'll never play, but there are plenty of anti-social gamers out there who will love it.
This is just an idle observation, but this place seems to have become infested with people like you....people who accuse anyone who likes a game of being a "fanboi".
Personally, I try almost every new MMO that comes out. (Still looking for "the one".) I like quite a few of them. I'm a "fanboi" of all of these, then, I guess, eh?
If I DON'T like a game, I post the reasons why I didn't care for it...and then go play something I enjoy. I don't sit around and post repeatedly why "this game sucks, and all of you who like it are wrong, and you suck as well", etc.
I just don't understand the mentality of some people...
This is just an observation, but if you are not a fanboi, my post wasn't directed at you.
Believe it or not, not every word written on public forums is a comment on your personal experience, values, or feelings.
I understand all too well the mentality of people who think everything is all about themselves.
This is a bomb. I canceled my pre-order because Best Buy doesn't find it neccessary to send out pre-order codes so we can take advantage of the pre-launch. This game is generic in every way and not the product I would have expected RG to release.
WGAS comes to mind.
Lol, his forum name says enough for me.
"The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"
Rubish? Then why are there 3 times as much posts in here than Hellgate?
Because people are actually playing HG:L, no reason to post on the forums when you are playing the game.
Seems like the people that are proclaiming that Tabula Rasa is such a good game are spending a lot of their time on MMORPG.com instead of playing.
The fact that the people that like the game feel the need to defend it against the criticism, instead of just playing, indicates to me that they may not have as much faith in their chosen game as they would like people to believe.
Rubish? Then why are there 3 times as much posts in here than Hellgate?
Because people are actually playing HG:L, no reason to post on the forums when you are playing the game.
Seems like the people that are proclaiming that Tabula Rasa is such a good game are spending a lot of their time on MMORPG.com instead of playing.
The fact that the people that like the game feel the need to defend it against the criticism, instead of just playing, indicates to me that they may not have as much faith in their chosen game as they would like people to believe.
Yeah because we couldn't be at work or anything.
I preordered and play both and HG:L, as fun as it is, has about 1/4 of the depth of TR. It' still fun as hell, but in a very basic way.
It's somewhat representative of an MMORPG players' mindset that they tend to spend more time on message boards. Hellgate: London, despite their attempts to shoehorn it into that model, is not really an MMORPG. It's even less an MMORPG than Guild Wars, really, considering how tiny its congregation areas are and how you can only have 4 (or is that 6) players on actual combat maps, no PvP, ect.
However, Hellgate: London is still a pretty fun game. I think the reasons for playing both games are different enough that you can play both and enjoy them both for different reasons.
As for this thread, it failed on page 1. The OP's most recent post is over on Age of Conan where he says he can't wait for the game to come out with nudity so he can "beat his meat". If I were a detractor of Tabula Rasa, I'd be really embarrassed to have anything to do with this guy.
Rubish? Then why are there 3 times as much posts in here than Hellgate?
Because people are actually playing HG:L, no reason to post on the forums when you are playing the game.
Seems like the people that are proclaiming that Tabula Rasa is such a good game are spending a lot of their time on MMORPG.com instead of playing.
The fact that the people that like the game feel the need to defend it against the criticism, instead of just playing, indicates to me that they may not have as much faith in their chosen game as they would like people to believe.
A great product doesn't need any defense.
As far as a great product not needing any defense... take a look at your own post history. 69 posts in the past 32 days, EVERY single one of them bashing TR. Here's a bit of of news for you, a POS game, as you claim TR to be, doesn't need people going on personal crusades and making it their lifes goal to bash them, in order to fail.
HG that good that you'd rather be worrying about how good TR is doing? Yep, obviously so.
The more you guys post this drivel, the more you show your true colors.
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That is so true, when I was playing the beta.
hahaha, theres some good humor in that post
TR by all means is a good casual game - when its free. Maybe at the most I'd pay for the box but this MMO IS NO WHERE near worth the cost to play monthly. It's one of those games were your bored and decide to log in and kill some thing and do some quests. Then after you log off you can go days even weeks without playing it b/c its really not that interesting/fun to play it daily.They def. would get alot more boxes sold (and more people playing it) if it were a free game (minus the box fee). But that way they wouldn't get as much money and what company wants to do a strat that would net them less money when they know they could suck dry its fan base by having players pay for a C grade game.
There's a lot of people playing right now that think it's well worth the box fee AND the monthly fee.
I'd pay twice as much as they are asking. It's that good. But see, that's my opinion.
Thankfully, there are out there games for the both of us
True statements!
And you can actually HELP a complete stranger by attacking whatever they are fighting.... You just make sure they do the majority of the damage!
Can't count the number of times I have done that.
There is goodwill in the act.
The uninitiated may believe others are trying to KS... Not always true. You can work the system rather than the system working you.
Some of us have family, jobs and fairly busy lives and therefore when it comes to games in general, not just MMO's we don't have the time needed to invest hours on end grinding, questing, massive group pvp, ect...
Therefore it's very nice when some games make it so if you would like to group with friends you may when you have the TIME. However if you are very busy and would like to do "solo-centric" gaming you may do so.
If you want a game that is just designed for grouping, may I suggest the PvP in Guild Wars as there is no real solo PvP content. There are also many other MMO's that are definetely not "solo-centric", EQII comes to mind as does countless other games.
Me for my part I guess i'll continue to be "anti-social" when I don't have the time.
you are the sort of suck^H^Hbscriber the devs are banking on
congratulations, you have more money than sense
this is NOT worth the asking price. If it was a one-off like GuildWars then it would be worth buying, but a 15 buck a month subscription? No, absolutely not worth it at all. Maybe in 6 months when its matured beyong the pay-to-beta stage, but not right now, not by any stretch of the imagination
Whether its worth the subscription is totally subjective and upto the individual.
I just bought the game and a two month game card. So for me it is worth the asking price.
While everyone's opinion on the gameplay is different, to call the game unfinished is just blatant lying or being misinformed.
I've played nearly every major MMO launched in the past 5 years and I have to say that TR is as polished as any major MMO launched during that time. Everything works, there is tons of content and all game systems are working.
If you think it's boring and repetitive and unoriginal, that's your opinion and more power to ya. But if you say it's unfinished or unpolished, you are simply full of s*** and out to troll. Or maybe you didn't play it on launch.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
you are the sort of suck^H^Hbscriber the devs are banking on
congratulations, you have more money than sense
this is NOT worth the asking price. If it was a one-off like GuildWars then it would be worth buying, but a 15 buck a month subscription? No, absolutely not worth it at all. Maybe in 6 months when its matured beyong the pay-to-beta stage, but not right now, not by any stretch of the imagination
GW and TR aren't even close enough in playability to be compared let alone and considered the same model. As for the asking price, if you can point me to the closest MMORPG/FPS that plays like TR for less, and no monthly fee, please do so... I haven't been able to find anything close to this though DDO was the closest in terms of action, but didn't quite give me the rush that TR does.Personally, I think TR is worth what they are charging. Also from beta testing other games, TR is actually quite solid and very playable, but thats doesn't necessarily mean that its perfect. Sure it has some tweaking to do, some fixes, but o have many many games when launched. I have yet to buy a game (MMO, FPS, RTS) that didn't have patches out within a month to correct issues. I wouldn't expect anything less from the devs at TR.
I too am looking forward to seeing what is brought to the tables a few months down the line.
you are the sort of suck^H^Hbscriber the devs are banking on
congratulations, you have more money than sense
this is NOT worth the asking price. If it was a one-off like GuildWars then it would be worth buying, but a 15 buck a month subscription? No, absolutely not worth it at all. Maybe in 6 months when its matured beyong the pay-to-beta stage, but not right now, not by any stretch of the imagination
GW and TR aren't even close enough in playability to be compared let alone and considered the same model. As for the asking price, if you can point me to the closest MMORPG/FPS that plays like TR for less, and no monthly fee, please do so... I haven't been able to find anything close to this though DDO was the closest in terms of action, but didn't quite give me the rush that TR does.Personally, I think TR is worth what they are charging. Also from beta testing other games, TR is actually quite solid and very playable, but thats doesn't necessarily mean that its perfect. Sure it has some tweaking to do, some fixes, but o have many many games when launched. I have yet to buy a game (MMO, FPS, RTS) that didn't have patches out within a month to correct issues. I wouldn't expect anything less from the devs at TR.
I too am looking forward to seeing what is brought to the tables a few months down the line.
NeoCron II has a ton more features and plays somewhat the same and is 9 dollars a month and the game is free. They are working on a patch to improve the storyline and pvp aspect atm to the NeoCron 1 format.. should be nice.
PlanetSide is ok, less RPG and more shoot'em up in my Tank and Mech with my buddy in a ship for airsupport type game... its F2P but has a level cap. the game is free... once u go P2P you kan pass that lvl cap. I wasnt really into PvP and i still had fun.. even when i was running from a bomber aircraft and had my lil launcher trying to take out a ground tank.. they shot them things up my ass and it was over but i last pretty long.. i used alot tree cover. fun game.
If they were to update PS graphics, which are nice, but make them slightly more up2date... it would make TR look so wrong, it would be pretty much jaw dropping.
Both PS and NC 2.2 have a larg mass of vehicles you kan drive.. even in the single digits levels.. so no waiting, a grown man should kno how to drive a 4wheeler or bike at least.. why wait till level 40? You kan even make them in NC
Games I've Played: SilkRoad, Flyff, NeoCron, PlanetSide, Rapplez, UpshiftRacer, Drift City, TB, Kwonho, ArchLord, AoA, Exteel, WolfTeam, Shaiyan, WoKF, FFXIV, STO, KoTR, ESO, Defiance, Mabinogi
Games I'm Playing: Warframe/STO
Games I'm Pondering: The Secret World
The problem with Neocron (1 or 2) is the very low server populations. I do have some fond memories of that game, though.
But it also suffers from bugs, small game world, and lack of real content.
I mean it has plenty of real content and yea.. that last patch did do it wrong but that seems to happen in all the MMO's I play but at least I know the dev is working on a patch to move everything to the NC one cycle but still keep all the new content and add a few extras.. which is why TR kinda shocks me... to be a pay 2 play game and promise so much pre-release and to kum out so basic.
A poor crafting system and sense you've played NC you know how advance theirs is.. from BluePrinting any device and/or armor to researching rare tech parts to make "hidden" weapons.. driving ATVs, Jetpacks, ...it has a bar, a club, and the player housing is insane. if only you kould lay down in tha bed
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I'm sure TR will add more content, hopefully... not sure what they'll add exactly but I know it will probably remain the same(as it is) for at least 6 months or so and odds are some new bugs will show up in the next patch b/c i kinda feel on the back of my neck that they are rushing and anyone knows a rushed patch is a buggy one.
They are going to have to fight to add more content if they want to keep the bulk of their players stuck to the game. With the 50 dollar out of box price and at least 2 months of play 30 dollars.. you're already at $80 bucks just to grind.. I dont see anyone playing this game for years and years like WoW (which i've never played) or NeoCron.
But if you got $100 or so dollars to burn, game+2 or 3 months of playtime, then I say go at it.. it is a fun game if not single player linear but extremly enjoyable.. just really wish they would think about tha fact that they have a price for it and really add more content.. i think for tha amount of money.. the player IMO, would deserve it.
A single player with a multiplayer aspect for peer 2 peer with say a friend would be just as fun. and minus the monthly fee. They got the NPC helping you out pretty good and it wouldnt take much to add that to other areas.
Games I've Played: SilkRoad, Flyff, NeoCron, PlanetSide, Rapplez, UpshiftRacer, Drift City, TB, Kwonho, ArchLord, AoA, Exteel, WolfTeam, Shaiyan, WoKF, FFXIV, STO, KoTR, ESO, Defiance, Mabinogi
Games I'm Playing: Warframe/STO
Games I'm Pondering: The Secret World
I had tried Neocron 2, and I was far from impressed. If there was a game to be called out to for being a game released in a Beta state, this would be it as well. I had crashed over 9 times attempting to create a character, then once created.... meh. A laundry list of bugs, poor performance and lack of any real RPG element for me let alone the MMO part. Granted it seemed interesting (and I was gun-ho ready to adopt it) but it just didn't grab me.
Planetside, I had never played either but if you Vaden say its just like TR, then I may try it out. From what I read, and heard it isn't anywhere close, but thats all hearsay.
TR still in my book is the only game so far to capture my attention for this specific genre. All others just seemed to fall short.
I mean it has plenty of real content and yea.. that last patch did do it wrong but that seems to happen in all the MMO's I play but at least I know the dev is working on a patch to move everything to the NC one cycle but still keep all the new content and add a few extras.. which is why TR kinda shocks me... to be a pay 2 play game and promise so much pre-release and to kum out so basic.
A poor crafting system and sense you've played NC you know how advance theirs is.. from BluePrinting any device and/or armor to researching rare tech parts to make "hidden" weapons.. driving ATVs, Jetpacks, ...it has a bar, a club, and the player housing is insane. if only you kould lay down in tha bed
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I'm sure TR will add more content, hopefully... not sure what they'll add exactly but I know it will probably remain the same(as it is) for at least 6 months or so and odds are some new bugs will show up in the next patch b/c i kinda feel on the back of my neck that they are rushing and anyone knows a rushed patch is a buggy one.
They are going to have to fight to add more content if they want to keep the bulk of their players stuck to the game. With the 50 dollar out of box price and at least 2 months of play 30 dollars.. you're already at $80 bucks just to grind.. I dont see anyone playing this game for years and years like WoW (which i've never played) or NeoCron.
But if you got $100 or so dollars to burn, game+2 or 3 months of playtime, then I say go at it.. it is a fun game if not single player linear but extremly enjoyable.. just really wish they would think about tha fact that they have a price for it and really add more content.. i think for tha amount of money.. the player IMO, would deserve it.
A single player with a multiplayer aspect for peer 2 peer with say a friend would be just as fun. and minus the monthly fee. They got the NPC helping you out pretty good and it wouldnt take much to add that to other areas.
I've no idea what you're comparing TR to in terms of content. For your $50 TR has as much if not more content than 98% of games released. You buy something like KOTOR, BioShock or Crysis and you have under a week of content, if that.
As far as value for your money, TR content beats pretty much everything on the market for the first month. And if you've run out after the first month - well, the $15 is optional. If you feel that you've done all the content in a month, no need to pay the monthly fee.
TR in terms of size, the number of quests and character skills is very much on par with all other major MMORPG releases - EQ2 / WoW / LoTRO and ahead of many of the crap releases - VG, DnL, AA, etc.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
so the OP pre ordered didnt receive hes codes for whatever the reasons
and come here bashing a game that he pre ordered and would probably be playing without this unfortunate codes chip thing ?
no comment.
This is just an idle observation, but this place seems to have become infested with people like you....people who accuse anyone who likes a game of being a "fanboi".
Personally, I try almost every new MMO that comes out. (Still looking for "the one".) I like quite a few of them. I'm a "fanboi" of all of these, then, I guess, eh?
If I DON'T like a game, I post the reasons why I didn't care for it...and then go play something I enjoy. I don't sit around and post repeatedly why "this game sucks, and all of you who like it are wrong, and you suck as well", etc.
I just don't understand the mentality of some people...
This is just an observation, but if you are not a fanboi, my post wasn't directed at you.Believe it or not, not every word written on public forums is a comment on your personal experience, values, or feelings.
I understand all too well the mentality of people who think everything is all about themselves.
Lol, his forum name says enough for me.
Rubish? Then why are there 3 times as much posts in here than Hellgate?
Because people are actually playing HG:L, no reason to post on the forums when you are playing the game.
Seems like the people that are proclaiming that Tabula Rasa is such a good game are spending a lot of their time on MMORPG.com instead of playing.
The fact that the people that like the game feel the need to defend it against the criticism, instead of just playing, indicates to me that they may not have as much faith in their chosen game as they would like people to believe.
A great product doesn't need any defense.
Because people are actually playing HG:L, no reason to post on the forums when you are playing the game.
Seems like the people that are proclaiming that Tabula Rasa is such a good game are spending a lot of their time on MMORPG.com instead of playing.
The fact that the people that like the game feel the need to defend it against the criticism, instead of just playing, indicates to me that they may not have as much faith in their chosen game as they would like people to believe.
Yeah because we couldn't be at work or anything.
I preordered and play both and HG:L, as fun as it is, has about 1/4 of the depth of TR. It' still fun as hell, but in a very basic way.
It's somewhat representative of an MMORPG players' mindset that they tend to spend more time on message boards. Hellgate: London, despite their attempts to shoehorn it into that model, is not really an MMORPG. It's even less an MMORPG than Guild Wars, really, considering how tiny its congregation areas are and how you can only have 4 (or is that 6) players on actual combat maps, no PvP, ect.
However, Hellgate: London is still a pretty fun game. I think the reasons for playing both games are different enough that you can play both and enjoy them both for different reasons.
As for this thread, it failed on page 1. The OP's most recent post is over on Age of Conan where he says he can't wait for the game to come out with nudity so he can "beat his meat". If I were a detractor of Tabula Rasa, I'd be really embarrassed to have anything to do with this guy.
Because people are actually playing HG:L, no reason to post on the forums when you are playing the game.
Seems like the people that are proclaiming that Tabula Rasa is such a good game are spending a lot of their time on MMORPG.com instead of playing.
The fact that the people that like the game feel the need to defend it against the criticism, instead of just playing, indicates to me that they may not have as much faith in their chosen game as they would like people to believe.
A great product doesn't need any defense.
As far as a great product not needing any defense... take a look at your own post history. 69 posts in the past 32 days, EVERY single one of them bashing TR. Here's a bit of of news for you, a POS game, as you claim TR to be, doesn't need people going on personal crusades and making it their lifes goal to bash them, in order to fail.
HG that good that you'd rather be worrying about how good TR is doing? Yep, obviously so.
The more you guys post this drivel, the more you show your true colors.
I would argue, I spend my time on mmorpg.com while at work and spend my time playing TR at home.