is it just me or is pepsi the best drink with a pizza or what.. i mean come on that is da shiznat
Deep dish, regular, or thin? What toppings? How many cheeses/ what kinds? I mean there could be a ton of options, but I must say enjoy birch root beer with mine the most over all.
true a nice root beer is good stuff ... wish i had some now... oh well will add that to the shoping list for next time !! munchies and game what is better then that ?
and type of pizza .. who cares as long as it's somthing you love can't beat a good pizza
Dear Flagship, does holiday content honestly take 3 hours to patch onto the servers?
IF indeed this really is a patch, why would you do it during a high server load time?
IMO Id rather play the game without holiday content, than not and wait for 3 hours.
Hmm - didn't get to see what the Forums said about 'holiday content' I can only assume that they claimed they were dropping the servers to do a Holiday content patch?
IF that is true.. I just have to ask, How Stupid do they really think that their gaming audiance is?
There is NO FREAKING WAY that they would drop the servers on opening night for an up previously announced 'new content patch' that is utterly unthinkable.
Perhaps they have bug patches in the works that also have some holiday content worked into them... a more likely senario is that it's a give away to apease all the folks that wanted to 'subscribe' for additional content and can't.
however EVEN if that is the case, it's still got to be a contingency plan that they are emplementing since the servers dropped...
hmm A friend of mine just posted saying he can get on multiplayer now... thus making this post fairly non consequential... I'm going to post anyway because I don't want to have wasted my typing. :-P
It is very amusing to see the few whiners in this thread throwing a hissy fit and thinking they are going to start some kind of revolution that will forever change the gaming industry I've been around since Ultima Online beta and am personally glad gaming companies keep pushing the envelope despite glitches along the way. The only way we can have the perfect launches these sad little boys envision is if the industry stagnates and no one takes any risks or tries anything new. I will take some server crashes and bugs over that any day, thank you.
I think a couple of the smoothest launching game I can recall were DaoC and CoH. Both games as I recall had no major issues and just worked right out of the gate.
i have no sympathy for anyone who bought this game lol.is sucked in beta not because of servers.because it was an awful game.that would bore any real mmo or hack and slasher in 2 weeks. flame on fan bois flame on.
I think a couple of the smoothest launching game I can recall were DaoC and CoH. Both games as I recall had no major issues and just worked right out of the gate.
True Story.
But there are still enough retarded people to justify crappy launch, so as long as they accept it... They will get served.
It's awesome what a whole industry can do to brainwash people, and make them believe that crappy product are a standard in the MMO world launch. (Or in general even)
That is pathetic.
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
For the life of me I don't understand why people would come on a forum simply to trash a game or the players who play it. My guess is that they want to see the game fail. I know if I didn't like a game I might make one post on what I thought of it and move on. Truthfully there aren't many games I've played that I didn't like the game to some degree. And I definitely didn't degrade those who do enjoy a game.
The website saying nothing is stupid i could build a website in 5 mins that gave an explaination and i am an internet moron.
The website did explain everything. I don't know what you are talking about. Everything from it going gold and patch 0, to them pulling down the servers till release, to them explaining they were taking servers down to patch content for all.
What have they failed to inform us about? if anything their blog says more than I care about. I mean wtf, who cares about the hg:l jeep and where it is.
I am sorry you were so busy trying to make me and not the company making cash look foolish you missed the point r'tard. I am aware the website was gonna be down for the week prior i was on about this evenings downtime. There was no notice on the website (actually thats not true some one wrote there was a message up for 10 mins b4 the server went down) WoW sorry i was too stupid to get that brief message cause instead of checking the website every 30 seconds i was playing that damn game that shut down with NO warning. As a said a message explaining this will it was down was not hard to hard. Anyone who thinks otherwise is like yourself a busy bodying moron.
Go make a game or develop a system of that scale, launch it and make sure its perfect and smooth. Prove that you can do it, till then, you are just an irresponsible critic by the name of Mr Nobody. We have problems launching the apollo to the moon, we have shuttle launch delays (almost always) and shuttle explosions. The first field test of every model of missiles ended up in dismay. The first wave of test for jet fighters during the second world war killed almost all the best pilots willing to test the new concept. Hmm, actually when you first learn to use a fork, you stick it at your mom. What is the big deal here? Things were not perfect, nor were you. You talk like you are god, and totally intolerant of mistakes. You talk like you are contributing to upgrading the service standards of the business by putting up an air of arrogance and intolerance. Your are pretending your know the business and stand heads above the pros in flagship. If you think you can improve the standard of the gaming industry, go get your hands dirty and fix the problem. Oh of course, I just realise you are not employed by flagship or any of the major game publishers. So you have to talk your heads off here. Next time you read about Michael Jordan missing a 3 point throw (of course he is retired), start a web posting saying "its you retarded fans, paying $500 per ticket to watch them miss an easy throw. Jordan is ripping you off, ... ".
i have no sympathy for anyone who bought this game lol.it sucked in beta not because of servers.because it was an awful game.that would bore any real mmo or hack and slasher in 2 weeks. flame on fan bois flame on.
Nor should you have sympathy, this is your personal bias opinion which means absolutely nothing here, Just some bored lonely person out there behind a keyboard, looking at a monitor and trying to figure out how to kill some time on mmorpg.com. You know you love HGL my friend, just admit it!
... I had to, it was just too unresistable not to reply to this message.. Man did I take the bait or what!?!? LOL
Originally posted by HiGHPLaiNS Just some bored lonely person out there behind a keyboard, looking at a monitor and trying to figure out how to kill some time on mmorpg.com.
Hey... you're describing Me...! Uncanny resemblence... at any rate, my personal opinion is that HGL is a fun game and even was in beta despite the performance issues and bugs (which usually acompany games in beta), though it's not my style. Just not compelling enough.
That said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I'm glad many people enjoy this game. ^^
I don't hate the company or anything, but I strongly, strongly advise people to NOT use the ea digital download, it is utter shite!!
I should have waited until I could go to the store to buy a copy, I'd be playing already instead of screwing around with tech support that is ill equipped to actually help anyone.
Most likely I'll be demanding my money back from them so I can go buy the damn disks. Not to mention they double billed me.
Funny thing is, its not even an MMO.. There is no HUGE server load to worry about. There are maybe max 100 people who can login to any one server. These same servers runs tons of battlenet type games. And this is just one of them. To be caught so ineptly with there pants down is another example of how unfinished this game is, and why they cover over the unfinished aspects with promises for Subscriber content over time. Its a freebie excuse to develope things for a complete game slowly after already getting paid up front $50.
But maybe you can enjoy the $20 aspects of the game that you have right now and make the most of it.
Ill be happy to hold out for Crysis and happily play The Witcher for the moment.
Bring back Liberty, Freedom, & The Constition. Save America from Corporatism. -RonPaul2008
I don't know about some of you but other than not being able to subscribe at the moment I been having a good time. Ok not the best of starts i'll admit but they will get the subscriptions working soon and all will be fine. So no worries , all will be fine and just ignore the nay sayers who seem to be trolling the Hellgate forums looking for an excuse to insult a great game.
I was there for WoW on opening day and that was tough. I think the way LoTRO launched is the best way because you avoid everyone logging in at once. They had the pre order players that logged in a few days earlier and then the regular players trickle in without as much of a stampede like it sounds here.
I was in the WOW launch and it was not ROUGH by any means. It had the typeical Lag Issues occasional, but a far sight from being a constant issue. People were having a blast through all of public beta and couldnt wait for opening day starting at Midnight the night before. It was a blast all through opening day, and other than the infrequent freezes during looting, and a few other lag issues. It was awesome.
But again. STOP REFERRING HELLGATE TO MMOS! Refer to Guildwars if you must, or just refer to other multiplayer games like Battlefield, Diablo, or even an RTS game, this is no different in regards to the multiplayer aspects. NO DIFFERENT. Almost every game thats released today has online multiplayer with a Lobby to login to and find other players. Thats all you got in Hellgate. Hellgate's is a 3D graphical lobby.. ooooh.. its suddenly an MMO now because I can see a bunch of player characters in the lobby! *blissful confusion*
Bring back Liberty, Freedom, & The Constition. Save America from Corporatism. -RonPaul2008
I was there for WoW on opening day and that was tough. I think the way LoTRO launched is the best way because you avoid everyone logging in at once. They had the pre order players that logged in a few days earlier and then the regular players trickle in without as much of a stampede like it sounds here.
True LoTRO launch day is just like a normal day. No big influx. The game has been almost fully polished in open beta, and the same world and population are brought over to launch. Apart from a few hours of down time the game world carries over seamlessly.
Those who said that WoW launch was smooth must have some very tolerant limits. WoW started out with huge lags and constant linkdeads for many. Eventually Bliz has to take off all worlds (for a few days? I do not remember, it was so frustrated back then, we have to go to the web continuously to see when the game can be played) and refit the whole line of servers. After that things were suddenly much smoother.
In contrast. DAoC can be seen as a classic example of success. Unlike LoTRO, they do not carry over the open beta, but the launch was smooth. All the starter zones were working. Bugs found in slightly higher tier zones were fixed immediately when they are reported. The servers never went down.
But back to topic. It is ridiculous to call HGL a disaster. What is a disaster? something that caused huge damage and sometimes irreparable damage. What damage has HGL brought to the OP? A couple days of playing solo instead of online? That is irreparable damage?
Funny thing is, its not even an MMO.. There is no HUGE server load to worry about. There are maybe max 100 people who can login to any one server. These same servers runs tons of battlenet type games. And this is just one of them. To be caught so ineptly with there pants down is another example of how unfinished this game is, and why they cover over the unfinished aspects with promises for Subscriber content over time. Its a freebie excuse to develope things for a complete game slowly after already getting paid up front $50. But maybe you can enjoy the $20 aspects of the game that you have right now and make the most of it. Ill be happy to hold out for Crysis and happily play The Witcher for the moment.
The tilde key "~" brings up the console. If you do this, when you log in you can see the current user count.
On Shulgoth, the US server, there was over 14k people playing tonight. At its peak, I saw 15,300+ people logged in. I know this because I had the console up and I kept re-rolling. I happened to notice this number popping up as I logged in.
so, what were you saying about servers.. and a max of 100? elaborate because I only know of one server and it handles over 15k at one time and did so tonight very well.
troll much?
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
During the launch week of WoW, my server not only had constant lag issues, but we had frequent rollbacks for a few days. I would not classify it as smooth. LOTRO was very smooth.
Yes the server that i was on also experienced the same thing. Its a big flop this game. Could be another vanguard in the making. This game could do much better and im hoping it improves in at least 3-4months
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Deep dish, regular, or thin? What toppings? How many cheeses/ what kinds? I mean there could be a ton of options, but I must say enjoy birch root beer with mine the most over all.
true a nice root beer is good stuff ... wish i had some now... oh well will add that to the shoping list for next time !! munchies and game what is better then that ?
and type of pizza .. who cares as long as it's somthing you love can't beat a good pizza
Dear Flagship, does holiday content honestly take 3 hours to patch onto the servers?
IF indeed this really is a patch, why would you do it during a high server load time?
IMO Id rather play the game without holiday content, than not and wait for 3 hours.
IF that is true.. I just have to ask, How Stupid do they really think that their gaming audiance is?
There is NO FREAKING WAY that they would drop the servers on opening night for an up previously announced 'new content patch' that is utterly unthinkable.
Perhaps they have bug patches in the works that also have some holiday content worked into them... a more likely senario is that it's a give away to apease all the folks that wanted to 'subscribe' for additional content and can't.
however EVEN if that is the case, it's still got to be a contingency plan that they are emplementing since the servers dropped...
hmm A friend of mine just posted saying he can get on multiplayer now... thus making this post fairly non consequential... I'm going to post anyway because I don't want to have wasted my typing. :-P
-out.
Thank you,
zWolf -out.
It is very amusing to see the few whiners in this thread throwing a hissy fit and thinking they are going to start some kind of revolution that will forever change the gaming industry
I've been around since Ultima Online beta and am personally glad gaming companies keep pushing the envelope despite glitches along the way. The only way we can have the perfect launches these sad little boys envision is if the industry stagnates and no one takes any risks or tries anything new. I will take some server crashes and bugs over that any day, thank you.
I think a couple of the smoothest launching game I can recall were DaoC and CoH. Both games as I recall had no major issues and just worked right out of the gate.
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not even going to bother
No flaming here, just a lot of laughing
But there are still enough retarded people to justify crappy launch, so as long as they accept it... They will get served.
It's awesome what a whole industry can do to brainwash people, and make them believe that crappy product are a standard in the MMO world launch. (Or in general even)
That is pathetic.
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
For the life of me I don't understand why people would come on a forum simply to trash a game or the players who play it. My guess is that they want to see the game fail. I know if I didn't like a game I might make one post on what I thought of it and move on. Truthfully there aren't many games I've played that I didn't like the game to some degree. And I definitely didn't degrade those who do enjoy a game.
To each his own.
The website did explain everything. I don't know what you are talking about. Everything from it going gold and patch 0, to them pulling down the servers till release, to them explaining they were taking servers down to patch content for all.
What have they failed to inform us about? if anything their blog says more than I care about. I mean wtf, who cares about the hg:l jeep and where it is.
I am sorry you were so busy trying to make me and not the company making cash look foolish you missed the point r'tard. I am aware the website was gonna be down for the week prior i was on about this evenings downtime. There was no notice on the website (actually thats not true some one wrote there was a message up for 10 mins b4 the server went down) WoW sorry i was too stupid to get that brief message cause instead of checking the website every 30 seconds i was playing that damn game that shut down with NO warning. As a said a message explaining this will it was down was not hard to hard. Anyone who thinks otherwise is like yourself a busy bodying moron.
We have problems launching the apollo to the moon, we have shuttle launch delays (almost always) and shuttle explosions. The first field test of every model of missiles ended up in dismay. The first wave of test for jet fighters during the second world war killed almost all the best pilots willing to test the new concept. Hmm, actually when you first learn to use a fork, you stick it at your mom.
What is the big deal here? Things were not perfect, nor were you. You talk like you are god, and totally intolerant of mistakes. You talk like you are contributing to upgrading the service standards of the business by putting up an air of arrogance and intolerance. Your are pretending your know the business and stand heads above the pros in flagship.
If you think you can improve the standard of the gaming industry, go get your hands dirty and fix the problem. Oh of course, I just realise you are not employed by flagship or any of the major game publishers. So you have to talk your heads off here.
Next time you read about Michael Jordan missing a 3 point throw (of course he is retired), start a web posting saying "its you retarded fans, paying $500 per ticket to watch them miss an easy throw. Jordan is ripping you off, ... ".
Nor should you have sympathy, this is your personal bias opinion which means absolutely nothing here, Just some bored lonely person out there behind a keyboard, looking at a monitor and trying to figure out how to kill some time on mmorpg.com. You know you love HGL my friend, just admit it!
... I had to, it was just too unresistable not to reply to this message.. Man did I take the bait or what!?!? LOL
Hey... you're describing Me...! Uncanny resemblence... at any rate, my personal opinion is that HGL is a fun game and even was in beta despite the performance issues and bugs (which usually acompany games in beta), though it's not my style. Just not compelling enough.
That said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I'm glad many people enjoy this game. ^^
I don't hate the company or anything, but I strongly, strongly advise people to NOT use the ea digital download, it is utter shite!!
I should have waited until I could go to the store to buy a copy, I'd be playing already instead of screwing around with tech support that is ill equipped to actually help anyone.
Most likely I'll be demanding my money back from them so I can go buy the damn disks. Not to mention they double billed me.
D.
Update to my situation...
They don't know why their stuff doesn't work.
I cancelled and made them give my money back (which they did, thank god. Their disclaimer says they don't do refunds for online purchases.)
I guess I'll have to wait a couple days and go buy it in the store.
D.
Funny thing is, its not even an MMO.. There is no HUGE server load to worry about. There are maybe max 100 people who can login to any one server. These same servers runs tons of battlenet type games. And this is just one of them. To be caught so ineptly with there pants down is another example of how unfinished this game is, and why they cover over the unfinished aspects with promises for Subscriber content over time. Its a freebie excuse to develope things for a complete game slowly after already getting paid up front $50.
But maybe you can enjoy the $20 aspects of the game that you have right now and make the most of it.
Ill be happy to hold out for Crysis and happily play The Witcher for the moment.
Bring back Liberty, Freedom, & The Constition. Save America from Corporatism. -RonPaul2008
I don't know about some of you but other than not being able to subscribe at the moment I been having a good time. Ok not the best of starts i'll admit but they will get the subscriptions working soon and all will be fine. So no worries , all will be fine and just ignore the nay sayers who seem to be trolling the Hellgate forums looking for an excuse to insult a great game.
I was there for WoW on opening day and that was tough. I think the way LoTRO launched is the best way because you avoid everyone logging in at once. They had the pre order players that logged in a few days earlier and then the regular players trickle in without as much of a stampede like it sounds here.
I was in the WOW launch and it was not ROUGH by any means. It had the typeical Lag Issues occasional, but a far sight from being a constant issue. People were having a blast through all of public beta and couldnt wait for opening day starting at Midnight the night before. It was a blast all through opening day, and other than the infrequent freezes during looting, and a few other lag issues. It was awesome.
But again. STOP REFERRING HELLGATE TO MMOS! Refer to Guildwars if you must, or just refer to other multiplayer games like Battlefield, Diablo, or even an RTS game, this is no different in regards to the multiplayer aspects. NO DIFFERENT. Almost every game thats released today has online multiplayer with a Lobby to login to and find other players. Thats all you got in Hellgate. Hellgate's is a 3D graphical lobby.. ooooh.. its suddenly an MMO now because I can see a bunch of player characters in the lobby! *blissful confusion*
Bring back Liberty, Freedom, & The Constition. Save America from Corporatism. -RonPaul2008
Those who said that WoW launch was smooth must have some very tolerant limits. WoW started out with huge lags and constant linkdeads for many. Eventually Bliz has to take off all worlds (for a few days? I do not remember, it was so frustrated back then, we have to go to the web continuously to see when the game can be played) and refit the whole line of servers. After that things were suddenly much smoother.
In contrast. DAoC can be seen as a classic example of success. Unlike LoTRO, they do not carry over the open beta, but the launch was smooth. All the starter zones were working. Bugs found in slightly higher tier zones were fixed immediately when they are reported. The servers never went down.
But back to topic. It is ridiculous to call HGL a disaster. What is a disaster? something that caused huge damage and sometimes irreparable damage. What damage has HGL brought to the OP? A couple days of playing solo instead of online? That is irreparable damage?
The tilde key "~" brings up the console. If you do this, when you log in you can see the current user count.
On Shulgoth, the US server, there was over 14k people playing tonight. At its peak, I saw 15,300+ people logged in. I know this because I had the console up and I kept re-rolling. I happened to notice this number popping up as I logged in.
so, what were you saying about servers.. and a max of 100? elaborate because I only know of one server and it handles over 15k at one time and did so tonight very well.
troll much?
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
During the launch week of WoW, my server not only had constant lag issues, but we had frequent rollbacks for a few days. I would not classify it as smooth. LOTRO was very smooth.
Yes the server that i was on also experienced the same thing. Its a big flop this game. Could be another vanguard in the making. This game could do much better and im hoping it improves in at least 3-4months
Hellgate runs just fine. It had a few hitches the first day, but it's far from a 'disaster'.
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Most memorable games for me: UO, GW1, LoTRO