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Violentsin
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I came across this game a while back and since then it has been festering in the back of my mind. Since asking for a release date is considered taboo, my question is this, how are things going in the development of the game? Are we going to hear anything new concerning the game in the not so distant future?
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Hero's Journey development is progressing along nicely. We are currently working on some important milestones and features.
When we do finally have information to release, we hope it will have been worth the wait.
To quote a rather successful game company, "It will be done, when it's done"
Thanks for your interest!
HJ-Cirakin
It's good to hear that production is still in full force. The game looks amazing, keep it up
A trundling approach , but hopefully one that will prove fruitfull...
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Good to hear! I'm really, really looking forward to Hero's Journey. Simutronics has always impressed me and am holding high expectations up to this game! The MMO market needs something different, I am really hoping this is it!
What i would like to know is, will heros journey be current once it is released. With all the changes in technology people will be expecting more from it, are they adding or changing features to adapt with what new technology we now have availible?
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If it is progressing along nicely, why don't you have new information to release? Warhammer releases new info every month. It has been in production for less time than HJ.
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Well, nobody can really answer that or even have a close idea, because Simutronics keeps it all extremely hush - hush.
If you look at the official web site, they posted some info in April and then some screenshots in August. Since then, nothing on the actual development of the game.
But then, a lot of people in here are convinced that with Simutronics no news are good news and the Simu representatives here are always reassuring us, that the game is coming on by leaps and bounds.
I am now playing Lotro and I am quite happy with it. I come to this forum more out of curiousity and because I find it slightly amusing.
In the end, you have to make up your own mind on how close this game is to release...
Progressing nicely? Comparred to what, snails &^%*ing?
What happened to the 2005 launch date that was announced years ago? Then the 2006 and then the 2007 at the beginning of this year in PCGamer magazine? In one month, you guys will have missed your original launch date by 3 years. I think Darkfall is the only game out there that has you beat at this point.
Will this launch in 2008? Probably not unless you guys ram a beta test through but so far there is no evidence at all this game is even close to that point.
Third world government bureaucracies move faster then you guys. By the time you launch all your "ground breaking ideas" are all going to be standard features in modern MMO's. You will just be another face in the crowd and since your company didn't bother to do any PR or keep any flow of honest or accurate information to the community, its gonna come and go assuming you don't screw up the launch...
The difference between the "other successful company" and yours is they are excellent at PR and communication. They didn''t drop that line and then disappear for 6 or 8 months and miss anounced launch dates several times over several years.
Your company should just be honest with everyone and just say "hey, we just started working on the game again this year and its going to be another 2 years before its done" because that pretty much what happened, isn't it? Marketing that engine took more time / priority then everyone thought.
But keep up the good work, make sure you drop a bone again in 6 months or so.
Due to all the licensing that has been done with their engine (especially BioWare), Simutronics probably has more money rolling in now than they've had during any other point in development.
However, I'm sure their plate is also full with constant engine modding requests from their licensors (eg. "Add this feature! Add that feature, please!").
I'm sure HJ is in no financial trouble, but manpower is probably still a bit stretched right now.
Progressing nicely? Comparred to what, snails &^%*ing?
What happened to the 2005 launch date that was announced years ago? Then the 2006 and then the 2007 at the beginning of this year in PCGamer magazine? In one month, you guys will have missed your original launch date by 3 years. I think Darkfall is the only game out there that has you beat at this point.
Will this launch in 2008? Probably not unless you guys ram a beta test through but so far there is no evidence at all this game is even close to that point.
Third world government bureaucracies move faster then you guys. By the time you launch all your "ground breaking ideas" are all going to be standard features in modern MMO's. You will just be another face in the crowd and since your company didn't bother to do any PR or keep any flow of honest or accurate information to the community, its gonna come and go assuming you don't screw up the launch...
The difference between the "other successful company" and yours is they are excellent at PR and communication. They didn''t drop that line and then disappear for 6 or 8 months and miss anounced launch dates several times over several years.
Your company should just be honest with everyone and just say "hey, we just started working on the game again this year and its going to be another 2 years before its done" because that pretty much what happened, isn't it? Marketing that engine took more time / priority then everyone thought.
But keep up the good work, make sure you drop a bone again in 6 months or so.
Damn you really do sound like a 2 bit looser get a life...
Ah yes - when people run out of arguments, they resort to insults.
Torak might have put it a bit harshly, but he is mostly correct. All you get fed from Simu representatives and fans of the game is that Simutronics is a great company because they run several text-based games and that they are known to be bad on PR.
Well, how about some true explanations as to why there is virtually no new information on the game or why the delays or what the actual state of the game really is like. Not just "we are progressing nicely". You can almost hear them adding: "And now please don't bother us anymore."
Anybody with an ounce of sense knows what to make of this game. But I must admit, the blatant brushing off of potential customers is grating. You wonder at the nerve of these people...
Progressing nicely? Comparred to what, snails &^%*ing?
What happened to the 2005 launch date that was announced years ago? Then the 2006 and then the 2007 at the beginning of this year in PCGamer magazine? In one month, you guys will have missed your original launch date by 3 years. I think Darkfall is the only game out there that has you beat at this point.
Will this launch in 2008? Probably not unless you guys ram a beta test through but so far there is no evidence at all this game is even close to that point.
Third world government bureaucracies move faster then you guys. By the time you launch all your "ground breaking ideas" are all going to be standard features in modern MMO's. You will just be another face in the crowd and since your company didn't bother to do any PR or keep any flow of honest or accurate information to the community, its gonna come and go assuming you don't screw up the launch...
The difference between the "other successful company" and yours is they are excellent at PR and communication. They didn''t drop that line and then disappear for 6 or 8 months and miss anounced launch dates several times over several years.
Your company should just be honest with everyone and just say "hey, we just started working on the game again this year and its going to be another 2 years before its done" because that pretty much what happened, isn't it? Marketing that engine took more time / priority then everyone thought.
But keep up the good work, make sure you drop a bone again in 6 months or so.
Damn you really do sound like a 2 bit looser get a life...
Ah yes - when people run out of arguments, they resort to insults.
Torak might have put it a bit harshly, but he is mostly correct. All you get fed from Simu representatives and fans of the game is that Simutronics is a great company because they run several text-based games and that they are known to be bad on PR.
Well, how about some true explanations as to why there is virtually no new information on the game or why the delays or what the actual state of the game really is like. Not just "we are progressing nicely". You can almost hear them adding: "And now please don't bother us anymore."
Anybody with an ounce of sense knows what to make of this game. But I must admit, the blatant brushing off of potential customers is grating. You wonder at the nerve of these people...
I wonder at the nerve of people who believe they are somehow owed explanations from a private company because they may one day be customers. The company doesn't have a product to sell you yet, so why should they spend any time marketing to you? Other companies may not do it this way, but this particular one does. Why waste your time and energy continually beating this dead horse?Agent_X7 AKA J Star
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And just because a few people seem confused:
Looser = What you make somethign by turning it counter-clockwise.
Loser = One who loses.
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You are all absolutely right. Simutronics owes me nothing. And I don't owe them anything either. I can look at a company, at the way they present themselves and at the way they treat their prospective customers. Then I can decide whether they get my custom or not. I have already decided, really.
I don't know why I got so riled. Probably the "We are progressing nicely" really got to me. I certanily won't get into a mud slinging contest with the fans of the game here. Some of you have much more practice.
I wish you all a lot of fun with Hero's Journey. It sounded really good, when they started promoting it.
The issue isn't whether Simu "owes" anybody anything. I did not tunnel under some Simu fortress, past barking dogs and razer wire, to steal the information that this game exists. Simu put up a website, gave interviews and advertised it.
The issue is whether, now that Simu has marketed it to the public, Simu is telling people the truth about their game and their progress on it. Clearly they are not, and posts like "it is progressing nicely" are belied by dozens of facts to the contrary.
It's not just me noticing this anymore ....
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I am actually glad for the new radio silence. I hope it continues, and I hope it continues to be the new corporate policy. It's tough that it was enacted in the middle of development rather at the start, but keep it up. I'd MUCH rather know nothing of Savants, Monks, Animate Dead, Wyr, Suari, Physics Engines, the interface, etc and be surprised and overwhelmed when they're released than be anticipating something that never comes to flurition.
I just wish they had learned to shut up in 1997 instead of 2007...
Some of you people really make me sad.. You call out for a word from someone who knows something, and when they tell you everything they are allowed to say, you pounce on them and snarl that it isn't enough. The fact is that you all should be glad about the silence game masters keep, because it's people who hate something that go around telling secrets, not the ones that love it.
The developers are too busy to handle PR at this time. You've heard it before. It is the truth. Deal with that. The Game Masters aren't allowed to say anything. It's how things are. You want them fired? That's your want, not theirs, and be glad it's not theirs. Go out, play other games if it's so annoying to wait for this product, but don't insult a company like this when it is doing the best it can in the areas it specializes in to bring you a great game.
I find one thing ironic after reading through this whole thread.
Ask a gamer, where to find hints etc. for a game and they can point you to the most relavent information your seeking.
Ask that same gamer about the upcoming release of a game thats been in development like HJ, and they shrug and say "No one tells us anything here." Then starts the numorous irrelavant replys about what Simu did to me, and how great Simu is, etc.
85% of the replys i've read for HJ bring me to the assumption, that people that post here are 12 and under. I know this is true, what i do know is that if you can find hints and cheats across the web for games you play, why do most rely on the info and opinions of one source.
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Oh wow, press realse sept 6, 2007. Last news release here was back in 2005. (seem to recall a comment abouts Simu's lack of ability to update site info.)
And wow, Bioware leased GarbageEngine for their game? Another one to scratch off the list of potential things to try. 2002 tech for the win, Bioware! Nice going, choosing the ugliest rendering engine I've seen since AO for your project.
In my opinion, HE has very pretty graphics. Like I've said (oh many times), the screenshots for HJ are out of date. If you want to see a better example, look at the HE website. This is a good example: heroengine.com/world.asp
Check out this language from the engine website linked above:
"Reference Implementation
In addition, you have full access to the ongoing development of our AAA MMO title, Hero's Journey® as a reference implementation for most of the common MMO features. This invaluable guide will speed your development efforts and serve as a powerful, real-world implementation example."
A "guide" and a "reference." How long have I been saying that's what it is? A tool to market and promote the engine product.
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It's not quite how that sounds. They don't have actual access to the game, or anything that is really HJ specific (lore, systems, etc.). What that means is they have a kind of "users manual".
It's like the video. That's not part of HJ, it's just showing how quickly an area can be built by multiple people at once.
Sticky key and i didn't spell check.. nice observation
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I take it you are aware that HJ was in development before the engine became a marketable product? They have said multiple times that they had no plans to license the engine out until they were approached by BioWare for it. And BioWare have confirmed this story.
Sure things may have slowed down on the game due to now offering support on the engine, but considering the majority of the game is being made by a volunteer team it shouldn't really suprise anyone that it's taking awhile to do.
I think this is the biggest problem and it fuels the rumors of vaporware. You can't expect to meet deadlines or even complete a game when the majority of your workers are not obligated to finish anything they are doing. Volunteer work is great for non-profit organizations but if you are running a business, you better have paid employees. This is a horrible business strategy.
Perhaps, except they don't care when it's finished, quality is more important than meeting any deadline for them.