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Fury gets outsold by The Oregon Trail...
Well, I decided to check some of the sales rankings from retailers, and Fury is little more than a joke. It's not even on the list at Gamestop, and Amazon.com has the old classic "The Oregon Trail" listed as a better-selling product. So, where does it rank in video game sales? Right here:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #8,158 in Video Games
Pretty impressive, eh? I can't recall the last time I saw a game sink so quickly. Maybe next time, companies will think twice before releasing half-assed content with a scam-filled business model.
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Scam-filled? What do you mean? Billing after you quit? Billing multiple times? DnL style scamming?
... Oh, just that they claim you "never pay again", and "100% free" on their retail box, but the game is anything but. They also fail to tell you they perpetuate their own real money trade market by offering both gold and skills for real money. None of this is mentioned unless you search their site for the proper business FAQ... Shady indeed...
Haven't played Fury, but does that mean you can just buy a load of gold legally, then buy all the best armour/skills and weapons right off the bat? What does that leave to strive for then? Just max out your toon off charactor creation and own people?
How is that addressed I wonder?
Oh nooo just like GW unlock packs what has this world come too, convenience for users!! Oh those horrible capitalists and their money making machines of doom! They come to our houses and force us at gunpoint to pay, whatever shall we do!
Actually, it is!
You can quite happily play the game without ever spending another cent, and many people do!
Actually, it is!
You can quite happily play the game without ever spending another cent, and many people do!
What Dan said.
If you dont understand their business model dont elaborate upon it.
I do disagree with the item shop, but its basically a waste; you get better items playing games etc. And buying skills and gear wont in anyway give anyone else an advantage, remember - gear means very little in Fury.
Just an additional note, I have not paid a penny after my purchase. Im happy, and can easily compete against a guy that has bought money for gear.
Yep you can fully enjoy the game without a subscription.
I'm one of those people
Money in this game apparently offers convenience, not skill or power.
If you can't be bothered to complete the "trials" you can just unlock all skills with RL money. Which doesn't matter cause you can unlock a lot in like 2 days.
And you can be efficient with what the game gives you in the beginning either way.
This game is all about well build "builds" and using them efficiently. That's what I found out so far and I'm enjoying it a lot.
It's not a game to replace you WoW/EQ2/LotRO or wtvr else MMORPG game you're playing.
Personally If I wanna PvP I go Fury. If I wanna quest I logon to LotRO. And I'm happy I only pay for 1 MMO a month.
Oh nooo just like GW unlock packs what has this world come too, convenience for users!! Oh those horrible capitalists and their money making machines of doom! They come to our houses and force us at gunpoint to pay, whatever shall we do!
Woah, SARCASM! Although, this of course means the joke is on you, because you failed to acknowledge the difference between what they both provide.
Fury expects monthly fees for services that should be in the base game: the ability to sell on AH, extra/better loot (earlier chance of having a competitive edge), and even using voice chat. When you buy that gold and those skills, you are buying it for an incomplete product and actually save little time for how easy it is to gain these abilities.
Guild Wars doesn't sell gold, but the ability packs are of reasonable bang-for-buck ratio when considering the time saved of trying to go cap the elite skills or spend 3x more the amount of faction than a regular ability. GW also didn't start their game store for quite some time after it was actually established (Truth that developers cared much more for a complete product than already reaping the benefits of success).
Face it - You're defending a lost cause on this point. I wouldn't call them scammers, but definitely shady. Oh well, it's not as if Fury's going somewhere with such a disgusting product and completely lousy developers. Try not to take it so personal if your willing to defend a product of such low quality- I saw it first hand with a game called Face of Mankind many years ago.
TBH you can question their pricing plan. And if you don't like it stay away from it...
However, I find Fury to be far from a bad quality game...
And personally, I love their packages cause it saves me precious time for amounts of money I find unimportant.
I'm sure there's more people around there who think the same, that doesn't make us fanboys or defenders of "a lost cause". It just puts US in the group of people Fury was targeted to and YOU outside of that.
If you don't like Fury's plans, don't buy it or play it.
If you do, I'll see you in game!
And to express my heart's content I find an expansion pack of a popular game that only added small amount of quests, limited new zones and different named grinds with the same endgame as last year AND STILL CHARGED at the high price it was more shady than Fury. That was a blant exploit...
Compare it with EQ2's expansion agenda and you'll get the point.
And I can even go further that the previously "changing names" policy that strictly prohibited this is now offered for a fee, even more shady. (yeah in the same game you probably never heard of
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We all get these kinds of posts from the same OP because her mother did not give him cookies when he was a child.
Same old, same old. Thank god that I will not get into any game with such a person in the future, because what he will be playing will not be a game for my taste.
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Osbourne Cox: You are the guy from the gym.
Ted Treffon: I don't represent Hardbodies.
Osbourne Cox: I know very well what you represent. You represent the idiocy of today.
Ted Treffon: No, I don't represent that either.
Osbourne Cox: You are part of a league of morons. Oh, yes. You see you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. But guess what. Today, I win.
Until players kept requesting unlock packs because they didn't want to keep doing PVE just to PVP. Which is what players asked for before Fury came out, they must really not listen to us. Enjoy your day.
They were outsold by Nancy Drew, even. Priceless.
Yes, yes, I know... "Don't like it, don't play it." And I fully intend to avoid this game like the plague. BUT, I find it funny that they are undersold so terribly, and have be awarded horrible ratings and a bad image. Hey, companies can have whatever business model they want. There's no law against it. The problem is when they deviate so strongly from the norm and don't openly disclose their processes. This game is the closest candidate I have ever seen for being in violation of Truth in Advertising laws here in the US.
But luckily we probably won't have to worry about it, as they will buckle under the weight of looming server and staff costs while brining in the revenue of what is likely a record low number of purchases and subscribers.
If you're going to tout your game as "100% free", then either don't have conditions to that claim, or disclose your conditions clearly. The whole game is not 100% free. There are a number of features (things that are typically included as free in all other games, including the FREE Guild Wars), such as participation in ladder matches, use of the auction house, starting a guild, and use of voice chat. Sure, GW may not have all those features. But take into account that they have about 1,536 times the content of the pitiful 9 maps you find in Fury.
So, yes. I don't like, and won't play Fury. But I also feel insulted that this game tries to take advantage of players and perpetrates their business plan in a very sneaky and hidden way. NOWHERE on the box does it mention optional fees! There is not a single place that states you can or may need to pay for extra features to enjoy the complete game or that other players can take shortcuts to replace your effort, or that they get preference for login and item drops. Don't be surprised if you get complaints files with the US commerce dept or even potential law suits from extremely disgruntled players...
Oh god, what a thickhead. People who play Fury love it. If you don't play, that's fine, one less nubcake who is out for us. Coming here and spreading your hate in these forums only make a fool of yourself. I think you have some other psychological problems, but I won't get into there.
And as a person who is actually playing the game, we got more players compared to beta, so your obsession against Fury fails big time.
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Osbourne Cox: You are the guy from the gym.
Ted Treffon: I don't represent Hardbodies.
Osbourne Cox: I know very well what you represent. You represent the idiocy of today.
Ted Treffon: No, I don't represent that either.
Osbourne Cox: You are part of a league of morons. Oh, yes. You see you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. But guess what. Today, I win.
It's actually funny to see ppl flaming Fury yet whenever I login there's lots of ppl running around and never waited for any queue for more than 3 mins up to now. Maybe I'm lucky
Some people have no life for sure.
It's actually nice to have such hate towards Fury. It shows that the game has huge potential, and people who got owned can not stand this fact. It's a "love it or hate it" type of game. Some people will not love it because they will continuously get BBQd in game. They will come to forums and spread hate about absurd things like Fury's business model then :P Who would come here and talk about a game's business model if they don't get BBQd in the game? You simply just don't buy the game if you think the business model is not your cup of tea.
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Osbourne Cox: You are the guy from the gym.
Ted Treffon: I don't represent Hardbodies.
Osbourne Cox: I know very well what you represent. You represent the idiocy of today.
Ted Treffon: No, I don't represent that either.
Osbourne Cox: You are part of a league of morons. Oh, yes. You see you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. But guess what. Today, I win.
Some people have no life for sure.
It's actually nice to have such hate towards Fury. It shows that the game has huge potential, and people who got owned can not stand this fact. It's a "love it or hate it" type of game. Some people will not love it because they will continuously get BBQd in game. They will come to forums and spread hate about absurd things like Fury's business model then :P Who would come here and talk about a game's business model if they don't get BBQd in the game? You simply just don't buy the game if you think the business model is not your cup of tea.
Owned? BBQd? What are you, some 13 year old? Companies trying to extort their customers is not just some "absurd" topic. If your mommy and dady have enough money saved up to pay for your need to "pwn n00bs" or whatever it is you think you're doing, then bravo. But don't pretend this game is anything innovative or deep. And it's not that the business model isn't "my cup of tea", it's that it is deceptive.
And, to the previous post, it doesn't take much to see other people running around in that game considering there is only one zone.
My thought: the only people playing this game are kids who are using their parents' money, and have no concept of real life. Considering the only rebuttals have been "nuh-uh", "U R just a n00b", or similar immature blubbering.
1. I am 31 years old, have a very good job and can easily pay the $50 Fury purchase cost. (If you do not believe, come to Rhode Island and I will buy you a coke from McDonalds for you, because I don't think you can drink beer yet)
2. You are the little whiney kiddo here. You try to possess people with your lame posts over and over like an 13 year old. If you don't like the game or concept, just disappear from our sights already. We do not want you or your kind in the game. If you were 3-4 years older, maybe you could have understood to respect people. We play the game, we enjoy it. Now you fail to understand this simple fact and come to here, repeadetly thrash talk about a game that you are not playing. This is insulting us the players who had already purchased the game and are actually having lots of fun. It's not Auran bashing what you are doing, more importantly you are trying to show the community who LIKE Fury as idiots.
3. You are whining about the $50 normal game fee and the OPTIONAL (your brain still will not recognize the optional tag here but who dies from trying) extra bonus stuff which does not affect gameplay at all. You are poor (can not get the $$ from your parents), getting owned in competitive games, and love to thrash talk about a game some people prefer to spend their time. Now who is the nOOb in this picture? Yes, guessed right, YOU!
3. Disappear from our sights already, because you are standing like a thrash in our rooms...
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Osbourne Cox: You are the guy from the gym.
Ted Treffon: I don't represent Hardbodies.
Osbourne Cox: I know very well what you represent. You represent the idiocy of today.
Ted Treffon: No, I don't represent that either.
Osbourne Cox: You are part of a league of morons. Oh, yes. You see you're one of the morons I've been fighting my whole life. But guess what. Today, I win.
You must be a desperate man coming to this craphole of a website to defend your game, Dan_Gray.
Fury really isnt that bad of a game, but, honestly, there are way to many things wrong with the game, ranking system sucks, im not the best at the game but i did do fairly good top 3 in bb every time and it took me 3 weeks to get from reborn to initiate and thats rank 1 to rank 2, really pathetic, come pay day, Tabula Rasa, and i hope it's as good as every one says
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You can play the game 100% free many of my friends do and not a single one has a problem in any way. I pay the 9 bucks to support a game I enjoy to play not because I was scammed in anyway. You obviously have a different opinion which seems 100% irrational to not only the people who made the game but also to its fans. Fury is a 100% honest independant small buisness and they made a small but innovative game and will work with you if you have some kind of billing problem to solve it asap.
Lack of innovative fun gameplay in mmo's has been my #1 complaint over the years and how fights are determined by rock-papper-scissor ballanciing where player skill playes a very small factor would be a close second. Fury overcame both of thoes with their fun gameplay and how your skill determins the outcome of battle. Nothing in life is perfect but Fury is on the right track imo. If anything you should be all over NCsoft and SoE for stuffing the same crap in boxes only to stamp a different name on it and selling it to you for 60 bucks or 100+ for a pos with a poster and pet rabbit.
Imho the better + more requiring a game is regarding to mechanics it works against it in subscription number and sales.
WoW is probably the easiest game around, the less innovative and imho the biggest "scam" (repetetive gameplay, recycling same principles in expansion etc.).
It's not a bad game but not as good as people think/say it is.
However is very very succesful and sells very good still regarding its age.
Anyway want some points of what I believe is a real scam ?
- A mediocre, small expansion with the same old in it for a ridiculous price.
- Name changing that was once prohibited + unavailable since it was "violation of policy" because you could do all sorts of things then change your name BUT NO - You had to build up your character's reputation that was bound to his name. Now "it's ok" to change your name...For a price
-Supposedly fighting the gold sellers etc. but seriously 3 years now how can they NOT find a way to prohibit them once and for all ? They are letting them farm + sell gold and maybe even supporting them...
I still play WoW since all my RL m8s do but I restrict my activities in game when they're online.
When they ain't and I wanna play I play either Fury for PvP or Lotro for PvE.
-> Now let's see Fury.
A PvP game with no grind (advertised as such) with an optional support subscription that doesn't give you more "game". Just convenience.
It was around 40 Euros for the full game.
You can play whenever you want, without the obligation of subscriptions.
They offer gold selling themselves for low prices (even if there's no need to buy gold tbh - you make lots by playing the game and you don't really need gold to play).
I think the reason people hate Fury is that first it's overwhelming to play for newbie gamers and they give up easily cause they're used to have things handed over to them.
Go play Quake3 or Counter-Strike even today you'll be getting owned if you're just starting and it will take sometime of playing THE SAME LEVELS, with the SAME WEAPONS till you can get some skill in it.
Wanna know how to eradicate gold sellers? Remove gold from your game.
Conceptually speaking, Fury should've never needed gold for its gameplay... but there has to be some kind of grind in any MMO-type game.
Actually, it is!
You can quite happily play the game without ever spending another cent, and many people do!
this is very true actually, and i do enjoy playing at around 2 am or so when the main gank groups or off when it's all the other newbs like me, if you enjoy the game entitled Rakion - i suggest you try this game
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On topic, The Oregon Trail was a kickass game.