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HG:L , no singleplayer game at all, but crippled...

AristeaAristea Member Posts: 181

by its own lack of multiplayer support.

I'm in the "lucky"position, that I've got both a lot of my friends and my guild playing HG:L, because otherwise, I'd probably have killed myself. I see alot of comments about HG:L being a "great"singleplayer game, but multiplayer apparently, it's supposed to suck.

You do nót, want to play this singleplayer, longer than a few weeks before it gets old. There is simply not a strong enough storyline to keep you hooked. There are no friends to show off your items to and there is  no open battlenet to import your hacked characters and play godmode.

The only savior of this game, is multiplayer. And multiplayer, happends to be floating somewhere between life and death, with on one side, the light and on the other, the hellgate. The only fixes they need to apply to the game ASAP, is crafting a suitable group-system, with a decent chat. I'd even overlook the chat for the moment, if they'd just provide us with a solid means of grouping. I'm not even asking for full 5-man groups, any groups will do.

All the bugs in the world, can't prevent me from playing, but boredom can. playing a multiplayergame, solo, is like running with your feet cut off. Pure Agony.

The other thing I'd like to see is repeatable and thus "fixed"bosses, but I guess that's not going to happen, after all, that's gamedesign and not critical flaw.

 

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Comments

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Tried to play this as a single player game but gave up after two hours.

    It is actually boring as hell. There apsolutely no story , skills are so unimpresive you dont even bother putting points in them. And item hunt - although addictive simply doesnt cut it in singleplayer mode. Combat is as stupid as original doom with enemies just swarming at you. Apsolutely nothing to keep you motivated to play.

    Other games like Witcher or NWN2,Titan Quest...etc  beat it sensless at singlerplayer - both in gameplay and story

    So all that remains is multiplayer which is made useless for non subscribers, and not worth for subscribers.

    And all this because of EA greed

    If this game was released as non subscription game it would have some chance because of relatively fun multiplayer. But this way it is simply not worth it not as singleplayer or multiplayer



  • AristeaAristea Member Posts: 181

    It's a bit of a pity that you name three games that are failed RPG's sadly, Titan Quest was just as buggy on release as HG:L is now, The Witcher is a "get them into bed Japanese dating RPG" and NWN2 couldn't even come close to it's original version. But I do see what you mean, even though I will keep supporting HG:L. Things just need to be fixed, preferably asap.

    Dó note, that HG:L was never created for its story, but if you make a game that's not about storyline, you'd better make sure everything that's supposed to make people forget about it works..and it doesnt.

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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Agreed Titan Quest is nothing more than Diablo 2 clone (that is why i mentioned it)

    NWN2 is much worse than NWN1 (although MOTB redeem it somewhat)

    But Witcher is frigin awsome - one of the best RPGs in last years ( highly recomended )

     

    But all these games SINGLEPLAYERWISE offer much more fun than HGL ... much more



  • EverithEverith Member CommonPosts: 482

    I defended HGL to the death... but after getting to lvl 20 and realising that the game is boring as crap i think i might recind all my statements...

    It's a decent hack and slash... but UNLESS you have another friend activly playing with you whever you're on it's simply boring as ALL get out.

    And on the other games... Titans quest is OK... better atmosphere and bosses but yea just as buggy on release... MP wise anyhow

    WITCHER is just plain awsome i really get into the story and the combat is fun... although no items to be found ever...

    and NWN2 WAS HORRIBLE when it first came out...(comming from a big nwn1 fan) but after MOTB came out i went back and played through the originial campaign and actually enjoyed it very much... alot of bugs got fixed and i got into the story... not AMAZING but a decent use of my time.

    HGL just... i dunno... it's a blast if you got some friends playing. If they added a LAN function i'd be all over it like a cheap suit but... like the OP said. It's no fun playing a multiplayer game solo... which is what i do 90% of the time.

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  • AristeaAristea Member Posts: 181

    Dudes..seriously..witcher is crap , your mainquest is to screw as many women as you can find..seriously wtf ?

    Your maincharacter suffers amnesia (oh please, cliche), is carried inside with a wagon, after which the castle gets attacked and he penetrates a couple hundred bandits to his surprisingly conveniantly found sword. Meeting up with his old girlfriend(?), in extremely lousy voice-overs, he says "hey, I don't know you, but I'll fuck you anyway" after which you just collected a pokemon card.

    Being a Witcher is a tough job, so Gerald has to make sure they understand he's a witcher in every town, "I'm a witcher motherfucker!, It don't matter that I get stuck in the doorways when I enter a building, nor that I can't use my skills in the daylight, so when I enter a fight I first have to reassign a skill to my bar which costs me another 20% of my hp, regardless of magically being able to stop time, IM A FCKING WITCHER!, now bend over and suck my BEEP, perhaps I'll finally remember what being a witcher is all about, amnesia you know, but I AM A WITCHER HELL YIHEAAAAHH"

    I even felt the urge to simply not quickly click an answer to the questions they ask me, to make the dialogs even more comical than they already are.

    During all my impressive slaughtering of bad guys and the regular burning hound, I also find myself shocklingly often confronted with men trying to seduce married women. In fact, they seem to like this game só much, I have to hear it every time I walk by, which is A FRICKING LOT! I liked the kids that wanted to cut eachother open though.

    So after I've gained the trust of the village, I screw a witch in a cave, luckily she doesn't have any warts.  I got another pornographic pokemon card. Oh yeah and after doing that, I also fight the endboss and kill all the villagers. After all, they endanger the ones I fuck around with.

    I'm now entitled to enter the city, but it was a TRAP! can you believe it ? A TRAP ? ..wait a sec.. this aint right..WHY AM I SURRENDERING ?? I CAN TAKE THEM RAAAGH NOOO DONT SURRENDER.............*wakes up in a jail*

    I'll summarize the next chapter, because otherwise I'd have to fill this up with alot of nonsense:

    You screw some whores.

    Mainquest complete.

     

    Excuse the filthy language, but ..it's litterally the game.

     

     

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  • ShadinShadin Member CommonPosts: 294

    Originally posted by Aristea


    Dudes..seriously..witcher is crap , your mainquest is to screw as many women as you can find..seriously wtf ?
    Your maincharacter suffers amnesia (oh please, cliche), is carried inside with a wagon, after which the castle gets attacked and he penetrates a couple hundred bandits to his surprisingly conveniantly found sword. Meeting up with his old girlfriend(?), in extremely lousy voice-overs, he "hey, I don'tknow you, but I'll fuck you anyway" after which you just collected a pokemon card.
    Being a Witcher is a tough job, so Gerald has to make sure they understand he's a witcher in every town, "I'm a witcher motherfucker!, It don't matter that I get stuck in the doorways when I enter a building, nor that I can't use my skills in the daylight, so when I enter a fight I first have to reassign a skill to my bar which costs me another 20% of my hp, regardless of magically being able to stop time, IM A FCKING WITCHER!, now bend over and suck my BEEP, perhaps I'll finally remember what being a witcher is all about, amnesia you know, but I AM A WITCHER HELL YIHEAAAAHH"
    I even felt the urge to simply not quickly click an answer to the questions they ask me, to make the dialogs even more comical than they already are.
    During all my impressive slaughtering of bad guys and the regular burning hound, I also find myself shocklingly often confronted with men trying to seduce married women. In fact, they seem to like this game só much, I have to hear it every time I walk by, which is A FRICKING LOT! I liked the kids that wanted to cut eachother open though.
    So after I've gained the trust of the village, I screw a witch in a cave, luckily she doesn't have any warts.  I got another pornographic pokemon card. Oh yeah and after doing that, I also fight the endboss and kill all the villagers. After all, they endanger the ones I fuck around with.
    I'm now entitled to enter the city, but it was a TRAP! can you believe it ? A TRAP ? ..wait a sec.. this aint right..WHY AM I SURRENDERING ?? I CAN TAKE THEM RAAAGH NOOO DONT SURRENDER.............*wakes up in a jail*
    I'll summarize the next chapter, because otherwise I'd have to fill this up with alot of nonsense:
    You screw some whores.
    Mainquest complete.
     
    Excuse the filthy laguage, but ..it's litterally the game.
     
     
    No offence - you're entitled to Your opinion and all - but you seriously seem to have a problem with immersion and actually following the story..... I really don't agree with you and that was probably one of the worst put together rants I've ever read in these forums...

    This topic, which I thought would be an interesting one, just lost all it's worth in honesty... and that's My opinion. And for the record... The Witcher is a kick-ass game.

  • AristeaAristea Member Posts: 181

    Bad music, bad gameplay, lousy animations and bad voice-overs kill immersion. And of course it was a bad rant, it was designed to be. For the record, The Witcher sucks.

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  • GugutaGuguta Member Posts: 5

    For the record, The Witcher is an excellent game of that endangered specie called RPG.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    even tho the witcher has too many cutscenes

    I agree -- Witcher is best PC game purchase of the year for me

     

    other single player PC games I bought in 2007:

    HellGateLondon, NWN2, Silverfall, Overlord

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