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Waiting 6 or 7 years for a game like DARKFALL is more than FAIR....
BlitzBlade
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Waiting 6 or 7 years for a game like DARKFALL is fair....
Think about it for a moment. When you look at other MMORPGs of the past, 6 or 7 years of development is really a bargan IMHO. Look at the development cycle for SWG. It took them 5 years to make that game and it does not have half the features DF has. Also SWG had a much larger group of people working full-time on that game. Don't forget about the massive amount of advanced equipment and resources it took to get SWG off the ground. The developers of SWG had every advantage and it still took a very long time.
Even with all the advancements, SWG to this day is borked. Many have even said, that SWG was not ready and it required at least one more year to get it where it needed to be. The bottom line is, SWG really should have taken 6 or 7 years to develop and release. This only one example of many MMORPGs both in development and released that should have taken 6 or 7 years.
So....I really don't think that 7 yaers is a very long time when developing a game of this scale and detail. In fact, I would be more concerned if it took less time, for fear of a SWG or Vangard repeat. My opinion is, this is a normal development cycle and there is nothing to worry about. We should see BETA in 2008 sometime, followed by a grand release a few months there after.
UNTIL THEN....just relax and play something else. It will be here when it gets here...and not before!
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Most companies these days spend two years in beta. So I don't know where u get a few months from.
So even if beta is 2008, we are still looking at a 2010 release.
Look at the state of most games when their in beta.
Most companies these days spend two years in beta. So I don't know where u get a few months from.
So even if beta is 2008, we are still looking at a 2010 release.
Name three games that had a 2 year "PLAYER" Beta. They have been in a Developer BETA for the last year or so in darkfall. This is very different from a PLAYER beta. I have never seen a 2 year PLAYER beta. Now that does not mean it's never happened. However, I have NEVER seen a 2 year "PLAYER BETA."
HOWEVER....
Even if it took TEN (10) YEARS to make this game, it would be worth the wait if it were bug free and had all the features they brag about on the site and in the Journals. It would be worth the wait because this is a game I could play for the next 10 to 15 years and never get tired of it.
I say, take your time and get it right. There is no other game out there or even in development that can match what this game will have to offer. When they release DARKFALL, the world will be waiting and ready.
You didn't play Shadowbane, did you?
Vanguard?
Pirates of the Burning Sea?
Two years in beta, all of them.
One to two years in beta seems to be the norm.
Vangard did NOT have a (2) two year "player" BETA.
PotBS has not been in "player" BETA for (2) two years
I don't know the details on SB.
MY POINT IS...
I dont care if it's a 3 year BETA...It would be worth it if they delivered all they said they can in a Bug Free package.
Yup, that is not long to wait considering what you would be getting. Nothing out there worth playing at the moment.
Most betas are 6-12 months, not 2 years... Also, DFO devs stated they want a short beta with a feature-complete game only (well, we know it's not to be taken as gospel, but still).
As far as development time goes, it's not a reason to call it vaporware, e.g. Tabula Rasa was in development 7 years with it's engine completely rewritten in the meantime (same as DFO). I actually found a nice timeline according to which DFO and Tabula Rasa were announced the same year.
The main reason for DFO being labelled vaporware is that Razorwax/Aventurine made several rushed annoucements, promising beta/release "soon", "this summer" etc. when it was completely unrealistic. The development time itself is nothing to cry about.
BINGO! could not have said it better myself. this game is breaking all the rules baby. Drive on DARK FALL
Pirates of the burning sea beta began in Dec 2005
The Chronicles of Spellborn beta started in November 2005
Dark and Light Beta began in November 2003 and was released in June 2006
So yea betas do take 2 years, especially for small companies
Because YOU say so? How about YOU backing up your statement with more that just YOUR word. Do some research and comeback with some links. It works better that way. We don't know who YOU are and how can we trust what YOU say? Not flaming, just need more than YOUR words.
regardless...
it still is Not that long to wait for the perfect MMORPG! I could care less if the Beta takes 3 or 4 years....I will wait! I just dont think it's so bad for a game of this scale and level of details. I mean time will tell and who knows when it will be released. Who cares really? The bottom line is, you can do one of two things.
1)STFU and wait like everyone else.
2)Move on and play something else.
The choice is yours and the good people at DARKFALL ONLINE don't owe you a damn thing. Take it or leave it the choice is yours. All the bitching and crying won't get you a thing. You are pissing in the wind my friend because you have no control over the decisions that come down from the DFO staff and their DEV team. Deal with it or don't deal with it.
This is the reality of things...get used to being disapointed.
Ok, I didn't expect to be called a liar.
http://potbs.gameamp.com/news/viewNews/0.php!pageNum=24 -- very last post
http://www.tcos.com/sbforum/viewtopic.php?t=301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240 - 2nd post
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5042 - in the middle under under " beta test"
regardless...
it still is Not that long to wait for the perfect MMORPG! I could care less if the Beta takes 3 or 4 years....I will wait! I just dont think it's so bad for a game of this scale and level of details. I mean time will tell and who knows when it will be released. Who cares really? The bottom line is, you can do one of two things.
1)STFU and wait like everyone else.
2)Move on and play something else.
The choice is yours and the good people at DARKFALL ONLINE don't owe you a damn thing. Take it or leave it the choice is yours. All the bitching and crying won't get you a thing. You are pissing in the wind my friend because you have no control over the decisions that come down from the DFO staff and their DEV team. Deal with it or don't deal with it.
This is the reality of things...get used to being disapointed.
We are discussing the game and the current status of the game, if you don't like that then I suggest YOU leave these forums
k thnks
Ok, I didn't expect to be called a liar.
http://potbs.gameamp.com/news/viewNews/0.php!pageNum=24 -- very last post
http://www.tcos.com/sbforum/viewtopic.php?t=301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240 - 2nd post
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5042 - in the middle under under " beta test"
Never called you a lair. I told you to back up your statements with fact. Not YOUR word.
Ok, I didn't expect to be called a liar.
http://potbs.gameamp.com/news/viewNews/0.php!pageNum=24 -- very last post
http://www.tcos.com/sbforum/viewtopic.php?t=301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240 - 2nd post
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5042 - in the middle under under " beta test"
lol...THIS ONLY CONFIRMS WHAT THE OP IS SAYING!....The DFO development cycle has been a normal one. The fact that this game is taking 7 to 10 yrs to make is normal. Your posts support that and your links confirm it. NICE!
Ok, I didn't expect to be called a liar.
http://potbs.gameamp.com/news/viewNews/0.php!pageNum=24 -- very last post
http://www.tcos.com/sbforum/viewtopic.php?t=301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240 - 2nd post
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5042 - in the middle under under " beta test"
So what are you saying? The game isn't real because these other games spent 2 or 3 years in BETA? I don't think it's fair to lump darkfall in with this crowd. The truth is this thread is about the fact that 6 or 7 years is fair for a game like darkfall. This thread is not about how long the beta of other games has been. It's not about how long darkfalls beta will be. This thread is about creating resonable expectation for the best mmorpg ever made. Please stay on topic or leave my thread! THANK YOU
Potbs wil be relased in 6 years
Dark and light was released in 4 years
TCOS will be released in 4 years.
So no, 10 years is not normal. In fact its unheard of!
The comparison to SWG is a little borked, as the game never really had a development cycle amounting to much more than playing the game. Feature-wise, there are very few games that much up to what we had in SWG at one point. Vanguard may be a better comparison though, a game with a great vision but poor execution (some of us will say SWG was well executed before it was finally "executed"). I do hope darkfall ends up the game you want it to be though.
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
What's that saying about a sucker and minutes?
Ok, I didn't expect to be called a liar.
http://potbs.gameamp.com/news/viewNews/0.php!pageNum=24 -- very last post
http://www.tcos.com/sbforum/viewtopic.php?t=301&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240 - 2nd post
http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5042 - in the middle under under " beta test"
Never called you a lair. I told you to back up your statements with fact. Not YOUR word.
Why should he back up statements that are very easily confirmed on the net with a simple search? If you doubted him, why not back up your rant with a few links of your own. Really, What was your log date, who are you? Who are any of us for that matter. You could have been a lot more effective, because you did come off like you were calling him a liar...I don't see the difference between that and questioning someone's "word".
Played (more than a month): SWG, Second Life, Tabula Rasa, Lineage 2, Everquest 2, EvE, MxO, Ryzom.
Tried: WoW, Shadowbane, Anarchy Online, Everquest, WWII Online, Planetside
Beta: Lotro, Tabula Rasa, WAR.
"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."
Well, I just think it's silly that so many are so mad...and for what?
1) We don't know BETA will take 2 or more years...NO ONE knows how long it will take. It could take 2 months or ten years...NO ONE KNOWS!
2) Even if it takes 10 years to be released....SO WHAT!
3) No one has paid or is paying to play this game right now...NO ONE!
4) The Owners of the Darkfall IP don't any of you a damn thing....NOTHING!
5) No one has been hurt, abused, or killed because they didn't go into Open Beta this year
6) None of you are being cheated in any way shape or form
7) If you don't like it, stop folowing the development of the game...Go play WoW or something. DFO aint for you!
8) All of your bitching amounts to nothing and it falls on deaf ears. Honestly, do you think some DFO dev sits at his computer and reads this forum and says..."damn! we better finish this game this week because "goul31" says we are taking too long!"....I don't think the thought ever crosses their minds. The bottom line is, they don't work for you...yet! and they do not have to listen to all your bullshit, pissy-pants whining about how you "WANT YOUR GAME NOW....waaaahhhhh!!!" The game aint ready yet and you are gonna have to accept it. NOTHING you can do will change that!
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