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Raitsesman
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How to get a Titan? Is it good idea to get a Titan? (I'm new in game)
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You could get the skills to fly a Titan in under a year, about 250 days if you do the character creation right.
You wouldn't be very good at piloting it though... Getting the ISK, materials, someone to make one etc. I think would be a different story too.
look into it after a year of playing, see if you can convince a large group of players to support you to get one as well as to field one.
did i mention you will need other player support?
What is the right char to do it? and why I need other players support?
I'd like to get Leviathan
A titan is a fleet action ship, it is also basically impossible for one player to afford on on their own, they are that expensive so you need other players to give you one.
This means you need to develope trust and respect of others to get one. As to starting player, i don't think it is important, as you might save a few months min/maxing the stats for skills, but that is imaterial (of little concern) in comparison to the effort you need to build up in gaining trust in the game.
Being a min/maxer harping on about how you are working at getting a leviathon for years does not seem a way to gain respect.
Is there any good ways to get other players respect? Also I'd like to know why is it a fleet acktion ship.
It has a great firepower.Shouln't it be a good for soloing to then?
join the game and put in effort.
do the political thing, build up favors. don't gripe/whine/whinge, don't expect anything that you don't think people will give, lead by example.
Titan has a greatest firepower. If its so powerfull,why is it a fleet acktion ship? Shouldn't ship with that kind of firepower be able to solo and kill entire groups?
killing a titan is the biggest goal of a lot of players, as it will hurt an entire alliance to see it go down (due to the huge expence and the need for many players to work towards it). If word gets out about a solo Titan, people will come from all over to destroy it even people you thought were your friends.
The doomsday weopon has certain disadvantages, refire rate and resource consumption, also the there is a vissible warmup, and a properly organised fleet could be alighned and warp to safety taking no losses. So you should start to see that a fleet is essential.
All of the ships in game are desighned to have some vulnerabilities. A well flown frigate can survive against a battleship but not really damage it, but it can hold it down(prevent it from running away) so that another ship can damage it. Biggest is not necisarily best in EVE, it is best in some circumstances, but small is also best in some circumstances.
The goal is to play a MMO, where the help of others is the key to not only survival but fighting and production as well.
I guess the main reason no one can answer, is because how absurd it sounds (no offence). Lets put it this way, if you or your alliance are rich enough to fly a titan you don't need to kill anything because you already have more then enough money to buy just about anything you can think of.
Another thing you need to think about that has not been mentioned yet is the cost of a Titan. They run into the billions, that alone for a new player is daunting, but doable. If you plan on trying to save for a Titan as a new player you might burn out before you even reach it to a Titan and this is of course not even counting the skills needed to operate a Titan in a fight.
Good luck if this is the route you're going with.
I Reject your Reality and Substitute it with My Own!
Why don't you go and fly a Bantam instead?
A Bantam is cool.
time to learn skills to fly titan: 250+ Days
Time to learn skills to fit titan out: another 250+ days (more if you intend to go fully tech 2 fitted)
Not to mention the fact that you can't use a titan in 0.5 or above space and it can't use stargates because its so big... its not a mission runner and if you just go ratting in a titan, you become one hell of a target and no alliance would let you have one without 3 to 5 years experience anyway
Cost? 500 Billion for the titan, the parts to fit it, the cost of the helium isotopes to fly the bloody thing, the skills you need to fly it (can run to 500 Million ISK or more for a start)
I've been playing since febuary and I'm just starting now to get tech 2 ships (Vengeance FTW!) and in my EvE life, if I've made 750Million ISK in total i'd be surprised
If you need help as a new player and want to run missions with people, hit me up ingame and I'll help you get started, my IGN is: Tyr dominator
No,you wouldnt use a titan for soloing. If i was you, i would forget the whole idea. most players will prolly never get to use a titan.
And get that stupid idea out of your head that the titan is fightingship.
Its a logistics-ship that can fight. The greatest thing it can do is bridging entire fleets over great distances and be a flying hangar for many fleet-battleships. This thing is dead without support, and noone will ever fly it without having years of experience and trust in the alliance, because its such a valuable asset and extremely expensive.
Btw. why do people always want to fly solo-wtfpwn-mobiles? I dont get it..this is a mmo, you have to work together with people..
I for one hope that the OP will get a titan .. oh well any cap ship at least (the bigger the better) .. i also predict less than a week till he loses it .. than i`ll ask for the local chat log after the OP discovers why solopwn mobils dont work in EvE.
On second thought i dont think he`ll get that far thou..
Forget the Titan .. its a logistics ship for a whole alliancce that can fly and has a nice one shot area effect weapon that most have learned to avoid by now. Its cost is in the area of 100-200 billion (depending on what manufacturing and mining infrastructure and skills the group that builds it already has). Titans are NOT available on the open market, even IF you sell your car in real life and use the cash to buy 200 billion ISK from chinese money farmers (cost 10-15 k dollar). One needs the resources of several hundred to several thousand players combined build a Titan AND defend the capital shipyard where it its crafted while its being build. Titans are ALWAYS a politicial issue. Titans are trophy kills.
HOWEVER ... if you want to aim for the ultimate large scale fighting ship that IS within your reach, go for a Mothership. It costs some 13-20 billion, IS available on the open market even for private pilots that are NOT members of corporations and IS quite useful for solo combat. It is STILL a trophy kill target for all pirate groups all over six neighbouring sectors and private motherships HAVE been killed. A Mothership without support is dead, so the MINIMUM you need is a second, independent account to run scouts and emergency jump so-called cyno ships (so your Mothership can flee when a fleet comes gunning for it).
Training for a mothership is useful .. start as Gallente .. has good drone skills. The Gallente ships are feared PvP ships. Train to Battleship, then to Carrier (carrier fighters are large drones, so being a drone specialist helps). Gallente Carrier is quite impressive in itself. From Gallente carrier its then a small step to mothership ... as Motherships are super carriers.
Check this .... http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/ships/carriers/gallente/23913.asp
especially the skill list on the right side. You will need approx 1.5 years of training to be able to use a mothership and the required modules and fighters.
Meanwhile you can use your 5 other characters to generate cash (e.g. by milking research agents for datacores). So by the time you can fly a Mothership you have the necessary cash to buy one.
Keep in mind.... flying a mothership or Titan means you are basically stuck forever in that supercapital ship. You cannot dock at stations like everyone else and change into another ship. This will get boring VERY quickly.
Have fun
Ian Novarider
I quess il go get mothership first then. Once I have it (I hope I do) I'l start aiming for a Titan
QFT.
Also you are looking at minimum 3-5 years to earn enough ISK to buy a Titan. From the QEN there is like 1 or 2% of the total Eve population that has more then 100 billion ISK and trust me, those guys have been playing since 2003.
Basically, only a handful of the players in EVE will ever get to pilot a Titan. Literally a handfull. The reason this is true is because of the time it takes to get the skills, as stated by the above posters, as well as needing to be someone of importance in an alliance. If you don't have time to dedicate over the course of the next couple of -years-, then this goal will never happen. Titans cost roughly 60 billion ISK just to build. Then add in the fittings and you've got something that no alliance is going to entrust to just anyone who comes along with the right skills. You'll have to show dedication to that corp, rise through the ranks, and be -allowed- to fly the Titan.
There is a reason that most big alliances only have 1 or 2 of these things. When someone dies in a Titan, it sets the alliance back several months worth of time and work. A titan's death can cripple some smaller alliances and cost them too much and force them to lose a war. It's good that you have goals that are high, but perhaps instead just aim to fly capital ships for an alliance, and then -slowly- work your way up to being able to fly a titan. You never know.. two years from now, you might not want to fly one. You might have more fun in another role.
First of all the skills to fly one well will take around 2-3 years id say.
The skils will cost about 4 billion isk
The ship itself will cost around 140 billion.
The last one that was made was made by an alliance oof over 2,000 people and it took them 6 months to make ONE.
And that TiTan was given to a Trusted member because of the sheer manhours that went into that ship.
The doomsday wepon costs around 40 million isk to fire once and it can fire once every hour i belive. Also such a ship is easy to kill if its on its own.
You just let it fire its doomsday wepon then warp in a second fleet to jam its warp drive then let your Dreadnoughts battleships etc kill it in about 10-15 minuites.
Thats why you are very unlikely to EVER get one.
Motherships are however a more realistic goal.
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The primary asset you'll have is your charm. This is your personel ability and NOT a skill in the game. It'll be nescesary to build a corporation, and later an alliance, which trusts your decisions and shares in your vision. Communication skills are going to be the most valuable asset for your goals and if are lacking in them it'll be advisable to identify someone close to you, and your empire, who's more proffecient as to insure your success.
Spending 2 years to accomplosh this goal is a reasonable time frame. Afterall, you're going to need about 2 years worth of skills to take full advantage of possessing a Titan.
Good luck and please bump this thread when you've accomplished the goal.
When I started playing Eve 4 years ago, titans were just hearsay, and everyone was wanting one when they were released, but, now, snce they are ingame and are non dockable master ships, I'm staying away from them. Yes, I know they represent the elite populace that have billions of creds to thow away, but, still, I'm working hard to achieve more by simply getting a lowly carrier, or, dreadnaught, far more realistic ships, and, have a far more realistic overall jobs in low to 0.0 space.
Yes it can solo pawn groups on its own but it has No real defences you need support ships to defend you while you recharge your main gun.
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Retired from: Neocron, Everquest, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, RF Online and Final Fantasy VII
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Here is CCP and GoonSwarm's opinion on titans. This was filmed during the 2006 Eve Fanfest, and it might help you to put the ship into perspective.
The guy asking the question is in GoonFleet - the corporation in Eve with the largest membership:
www.youtube.com/watch