Someone said it looked pasted if you looked at it closely, so I did. And I saw an dotted line edge made of many semicircles. Look closely, as in get your face close to the screen, and you will see them, especially where the planet's color meets the ship model's edge.
I'm just responding to what my I saw, not bending over backwards to bash PE. I agree that is very strange to doctor their first in game screenshot, but all I'm commenting on what I saw. I'm not trying to guess as to why they did it.
ok seriously even if i WAS a huge STO and PE fan i would still say the image is fake...its just the textures and the color...looks like a really good concept art with a GUI doctored in.
Anyone think this is nothing more than an attempt to distract those from what happened in the buyout and the new owner in S.Korea?
Ive shown many in the ST community, many think the background is a screenshot from Star Trek Legacy and very cartoonist and the ship doesnt look right and if you look at the planet, asteriods there is no shadow to them even to the ship. There is jagget edges on the ship, it looks like it is copied an pasted into the backdrop even the alien bar looking thing looks pasted to the image, it doesnt look right and its Cartoonist. If this is what is expected from PE i would give up the license if this is what and where you have been working on when it comes to this game.
These guys are so out in left field, Daron is and has to of taken pointers from the former Iraqi information minister, he acts more like a spin doctor than whatever his title is.
Jeeze, I am starting to believe the doctoring bit. If no one see's the problem I am having with it being motion blurred in that screen shot, Explain why.
I am still having trouble seeing what everyone else is talking about tho. But I don't know exactly what I am looking for either, other than some sort of circles? Not much graphics software experiance here.
Someone said it looked pasted if you looked at it closely, so I did. And I saw an dotted line edge made of many semicircles. Look closely, as in get your face close to the screen, and you will see them, especially where the planet's color meets the ship model's edge.
I'm just responding to what my I saw, not bending over backwards to bash PE. I agree that is very strange to doctor their first in game screenshot, but all I'm commenting on what I saw. I'm not trying to guess as to why they did it.
I guess you're agreeing with me, but I have to ask why you copy and pasted my posts and reposted them?
Dubious as to whether it's faked or not, but any Trek nerd will tell you (me I guess) that a warp-capable starship cannot have hull between the warp nacelles. The nacelles require empty space between them in order to properly form a warp field bubble. Otherwise those poor people standing on the decks when the warp field forms will get sort of squished, vapourised, etc.. Back to the drawing board PE..
How do you explain the Defiant class then?
It looks to me like this game will be even MORE cartoony than WoW, if that's even possible. The alien looks like he came straight from the computer game Gazillionaire.
The starship is one of the ugliest starships I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of horrible kitbashed fan attempts. It looks out of proportion because the secondary hull is truncated, or squished together. It's like a model with really long legs, perfect breasts, and a really squat torso. Compare the refit Enterprise from the first six movies to see what I'm getting at.
I think now, more than ever, that this game will be a hideous disappointment. There are a lot of hard-core fanboys of this game (go to StarTrek-Online.NET, you can't say a single negative thing about the game or you'll get beaten down) and I think they're in for disillusionment and bitter disappointment.
I think now, more than ever, that this game will be a hideous disappointment. There are a lot of hard-core fanboys of this game (go to StarTrek-Online.NET, you can't say a single negative thing about the game or you'll get beaten down) and I think they're in for disillusionment and bitter disappointment.
Well, they'll have one consolation when ( IF ) the game is released. As they look at the failure ( of which I have not one doubt the game will be ), they will all be secure in the fact it's the POS they all asked for by way of kissing Stinnett and companys' collective backsides. Hope the game can survive off the subscriptions of 30-40 fanbois.
The topic post compares an Eve-Online with Star Trek Legacy to the one from PE.
And the graphics from Eve/Legacy is on the older side, very do'able for PE.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
another try at MMO? how this is started it will end up in same place where Gods and Heroes ended up ....Perpetual should really stop even bothering in trying to make MMOs just sell it out to SOE where the rest of crappy MMOs end up
Ummm.... yeah..... almost believable devs. But just......not.
No thanks.
Just goes to prove that there are more idiots out there than anyone previously thought. Not sure why everyone in the world thinks they are so great at image analysis, as everyone keeps proving to me they have no idea WTF they are talking about.
The image in question is a real screen from in game. I shouldn't tell anyone how to be able to tell, after all, you all think you know so much, and I find that ignorance very entertaining... but if you take the time to actually go to STO's website and see the full image (not the resized version here on MMORPG.com) you can clearly see that those "smooth and rounded edges" are in fact not so smooth and rounded, but are in fact aliased.
And for the record, it looks pretty damn good. Some of you will disagree... but then again some of you have nothing better to do but b*tch about how EVERYTHING looks like crap all the time. fu*king's
What's with all the hate in this thread? Over one pic? (which looks fine to me btw). Gameplay is by far the most important part of any game. Let's at least see the gameplay before we all jump on the bash wagon. Sheesh.
What's with all the hate in this thread? Over one pic? (which looks fine to me btw). Gameplay is by far the most important part of any game. Let's at least see the gameplay before we all jump on the bash wagon. Sheesh.
There ain't going to be any gameplay. So, I think I'll jump on that bash wagon, now. Oh, wait. I've been on it from the beginning, and more importantly, rightly so:
OK, will you various people believe that the same company that is accused with fraud would also be so shady as to post a doctored "in-game" screen shot?
See the link Zorvan posted. Being on a bandawagon is fun.
With all the recent news it is quite obvious STO is history because Perpetual will soon be no more.
Any disinformation out of Perpetual is laughable at best. Next time the fools need to hire a business manager so they actually understand what it entails to run a business not a comedy shop.
Why is MMORPG even bothering to post this trash? With all the recent news it is quite obvious STO is history because Perpetual will soon be no more. Any disinformation out of Perpetual is laughable at best. Next time the fools need to hire a business manager so they actually understand what it entails to run a business not a comedy shop.
Well said, I have no illusions about Perpetual to much stink around their brand ....wait they dont even have a brand....
Not too bad, I say. While this isn't the sort of news that gets me jumping up and down hyping STO again, it's enough to remind me that it's still out there getting worked on, and yes, that the death of Gods and Heroes was not in vain. Hopefully this criticism of their first in-game screenshot in ages will encourage them to start releasing more and prove to us that this is the real deal.
Personally, I don't think the ship looks *that* bad or out of place, artifact "jaggies" aside. My best guess, personally, is oddly that it seems like the lighting on the ship is coming at the wrong angle... Like it's getting hit with light, but the planet in the background closest to the ship isn't as much, or something to that efffect. But still, if this was 'shopped, good work to them, because I can't really tell right off the bat. I'm of the ones, rather, that are more curious about the Overseer D'Gem picture. It definitely looks curiously... Cartoony. Like it belongs less in Star Trek and more in Ratchet and Clank. (Think Ratchet Deadlocked; doesn't he remind you a little of Gleeman Vox, the big bad guy?) I bet it's just a still image too, like it won't even be moving, just enough to give you an idea of who you're talking to. Still, not a problem, I'm used to it. :P
Personally, I'm interested in seeing the dialog options. While certainly not a new thing to RPGs or MMOs, if used right, they might be able to achieve a depth in the game's universe that many have heralded, for example, Bioware for since Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. To that point that I think people are still clamoring for them to just practically redo Star Wars online and forget Galaxies ever existed. For Perpetual to come out of the shadows and pull off that sort of impression that they totally did everything related to Trek justice would probably be their ticket to major success. Yeah, still probably not Blizzard level, but close enough that fans will already be speculating just what their next major IP will be, if not them using the profits from a year or two of STO to finish the work on G&E, if not rework it from the ground up.
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The semi circular edges from the pasted ship is the most visible against the planet's coloring.
I can't believe they'd doctor their first in game screenshot.
Someone said it looked pasted if you looked at it closely, so I did. And I saw an dotted line edge made of many semicircles. Look closely, as in get your face close to the screen, and you will see them, especially where the planet's color meets the ship model's edge.
I'm just responding to what my I saw, not bending over backwards to bash PE. I agree that is very strange to doctor their first in game screenshot, but all I'm commenting on what I saw. I'm not trying to guess as to why they did it.
ok seriously even if i WAS a huge STO and PE fan i would still say the image is fake...its just the textures and the color...looks like a really good concept art with a GUI doctored in.
Anyone think this is nothing more than an attempt to distract those from what happened in the buyout and the new owner in S.Korea?
Ive shown many in the ST community, many think the background is a screenshot from Star Trek Legacy and very cartoonist and the ship doesnt look right and if you look at the planet, asteriods there is no shadow to them even to the ship. There is jagget edges on the ship, it looks like it is copied an pasted into the backdrop even the alien bar looking thing looks pasted to the image, it doesnt look right and its Cartoonist. If this is what is expected from PE i would give up the license if this is what and where you have been working on when it comes to this game.
These guys are so out in left field, Daron is and has to of taken pointers from the former Iraqi information minister, he acts more like a spin doctor than whatever his title is.
The ships motion Blurred.
Jeeze,
I am starting to believe the doctoring bit. If no one see's the problem I am having with it being motion blurred in that screen shot, Explain why. 
I am still having trouble seeing what everyone else is talking about tho. But I don't know exactly what I am looking for either, other than some sort of circles? Not much graphics software experiance here.
Not mad, just curious, as it stuck me funny.
How do you explain the Defiant class then?
It looks to me like this game will be even MORE cartoony than WoW, if that's even possible. The alien looks like he came straight from the computer game Gazillionaire.
The starship is one of the ugliest starships I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of horrible kitbashed fan attempts. It looks out of proportion because the secondary hull is truncated, or squished together. It's like a model with really long legs, perfect breasts, and a really squat torso. Compare the refit Enterprise from the first six movies to see what I'm getting at.
I think now, more than ever, that this game will be a hideous disappointment. There are a lot of hard-core fanboys of this game (go to StarTrek-Online.NET, you can't say a single negative thing about the game or you'll get beaten down) and I think they're in for disillusionment and bitter disappointment.
I think now, more than ever, that this game will be a hideous disappointment. There are a lot of hard-core fanboys of this game (go to StarTrek-Online.NET, you can't say a single negative thing about the game or you'll get beaten down) and I think they're in for disillusionment and bitter disappointment.
Well, they'll have one consolation when ( IF ) the game is released. As they look at the failure ( of which I have not one doubt the game will be ), they will all be secure in the fact it's the POS they all asked for by way of kissing Stinnett and companys' collective backsides. Hope the game can survive off the subscriptions of 30-40 fanbois.
I have absolutely no idea of why some of you are complaining. The graphics look pretty good from where I'm standing. Stop whining!!!
Because the graphics could have looked like this:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/158966
(Click brings up new window of MMORPG topic post)
The topic post compares an Eve-Online with Star Trek Legacy to the one from PE.
And the graphics from Eve/Legacy is on the older side, very do'able for PE.
And that is why...
Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.
another try at MMO? how this is started it will end up in same place where Gods and Heroes ended up ....Perpetual should really stop even bothering in trying to make MMOs just sell it out to SOE where the rest of crappy MMOs end up
The image in question is a real screen from in game. I shouldn't tell anyone how to be able to tell, after all, you all think you know so much, and I find that ignorance very entertaining... but if you take the time to actually go to STO's website and see the full image (not the resized version here on MMORPG.com) you can clearly see that those "smooth and rounded edges" are in fact not so smooth and rounded, but are in fact aliased.
Here I'll help those of you too lazy to go to the site: www.startrekonline.com/devlog/viewimage.php
And for the record, it looks pretty damn good. Some of you will disagree... but then again some of you have nothing better to do but b*tch about how EVERYTHING looks like crap all the time. fu*king
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-JW
Graphic Designer/Multimedia Artist
What's with all the hate in this thread? Over one pic? (which looks fine to me btw). Gameplay is by far the most important part of any game. Let's at least see the gameplay before we all jump on the bash wagon. Sheesh.
mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/159043
One more piece of garbage for the heap.
OK, will you various people believe that the same company that is accused with fraud would also be so shady as to post a doctored "in-game" screen shot?
See the link Zorvan posted. Being on a bandawagon is fun.
Why is MMORPG even bothering to post this trash?
With all the recent news it is quite obvious STO is history because Perpetual will soon be no more.
Any disinformation out of Perpetual is laughable at best. Next time the fools need to hire a business manager so they actually understand what it entails to run a business not a comedy shop.
Well said, I have no illusions about Perpetual to much stink around their brand ....wait they dont even have a brand....
Not too bad, I say. While this isn't the sort of news that gets me jumping up and down hyping STO again, it's enough to remind me that it's still out there getting worked on, and yes, that the death of Gods and Heroes was not in vain. Hopefully this criticism of their first in-game screenshot in ages will encourage them to start releasing more and prove to us that this is the real deal.
Personally, I don't think the ship looks *that* bad or out of place, artifact "jaggies" aside. My best guess, personally, is oddly that it seems like the lighting on the ship is coming at the wrong angle... Like it's getting hit with light, but the planet in the background closest to the ship isn't as much, or something to that efffect. But still, if this was 'shopped, good work to them, because I can't really tell right off the bat. I'm of the ones, rather, that are more curious about the Overseer D'Gem picture. It definitely looks curiously... Cartoony. Like it belongs less in Star Trek and more in Ratchet and Clank. (Think Ratchet Deadlocked; doesn't he remind you a little of Gleeman Vox, the big bad guy?) I bet it's just a still image too, like it won't even be moving, just enough to give you an idea of who you're talking to. Still, not a problem, I'm used to it. :P
Personally, I'm interested in seeing the dialog options. While certainly not a new thing to RPGs or MMOs, if used right, they might be able to achieve a depth in the game's universe that many have heralded, for example, Bioware for since Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. To that point that I think people are still clamoring for them to just practically redo Star Wars online and forget Galaxies ever existed. For Perpetual to come out of the shadows and pull off that sort of impression that they totally did everything related to Trek justice would probably be their ticket to major success. Yeah, still probably not Blizzard level, but close enough that fans will already be speculating just what their next major IP will be, if not them using the profits from a year or two of STO to finish the work on G&E, if not rework it from the ground up.
Perpetual is nowhere even close in legue of Bioware and Blizzard..... Its like comparing Yugo to Porche or Mercedes
More like comparing Leonard da Vinci to some 5 year old who hangs his art on his mom's refrigerator.