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Could it be #1?

Im just wonderin how many ppl think this game could finally kick WoW off the top nd become the best mmo out there. personally  i cant wait till this game come out, it looks so awesome nd seems like it might be a good change from WoW. I just hope it doesnt become a WoW clone

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  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544

    Originally posted by Arowin


    Im just wonderin how many ppl think this game could finally kick WoW off the top nd become the best mmo out there. personally  i cant wait till this game come out, it looks so awesome nd seems like it might be a good change from WoW. I just hope it doesnt become a WoW clone
    It could become the best game out there in terms of MMORPGs, but what you fail to realize is that subscription numbers is no proof of a great game. People bandwagon ride when it comes to games. The only reason I picked WoW up was because a real life friend wanted to play the game with me. We raided a lot but after he left the game, it was easy for me to leave because in my opinion it wasn't a great game. It was a good game, yes, but not great in my book.

    It isn't the game style of game as WoW was. WoW was first and foremost a PVE Raid game, while WAR models itself after Dark Age of Camelot which is an RvR/PvP game. You can get to level cap through PvP alone without PVE, and you can get great gear through RvR without having to think if you do not PVE raid, that they have a huge gear advantage over you. It will be up to you to decide what game is best in your own mind. For me, it will be the best game I have played because I am enjoying the beta itself, more than I enjoyed WoW. Will it knock them off the subscription throne? I say no way. Not because it is a lesser game, but because that is a huge number to expect to hit, and history shows that no matter what game comes out, it hasn't been near the highest WoW numbers.

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  • xray00xray00 Member Posts: 202

    Looking to de-throne WoW as the biggest game is always a mistake.  That is a fluke and aiming for that is a pipe dream at the best.

    WAR will stand on its own terms.  It will live if people enjoy it and die if they screw it up.  The only game that has a chance of dethroning WoW is one that you plug directly into you brain so its feels like you really are there and that is a long way off.

    WoW will die from age long before another game kills it.

  • xray00xray00 Member Posts: 202

     

    Originally posted by okor


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    You know, technically what you just said is a violation of the NDA if you were really in the beta.

    That being said, from everything they have said there are some major changes made in a variety of areas, both PvP and PvE.  We'll see.

  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    Originally posted by okor


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    Obviously you haven't read the beta boards.

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  • ImpyrielImpyriel Member UncommonPosts: 711

    Anything is possible. Now ask me if I care.

    Edit: Just to elaborate, I just think it shouldn't matter if it is #1 or #2 or so on. I would like it to be #1 of course but if it's not but still holds an acceptable server population then I will be satisfied.

  • ImpyrielImpyriel Member UncommonPosts: 711

    Lol  @ PvP^^^^^^^

    omg its a BlizzardRep!!!!

  • brett7018brett7018 Member UncommonPosts: 181

    Originally posted by BlizzardRep


    I dont think so.  World of Warcraft  will still be the best in terms of PvE and PvP.
    Lol, nice fanboi, good fanboi, here!  A cookie! 

    (I laughed a whole bunch at the PvP myself)  PvE was pretty good.  That is all.

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  • LysandrosLysandros Member Posts: 44

    If Warhammer offers me a world in which I feel I am a part of that doesn't seem clunky or poorly integrated and a strong community of players, I'll be happy. FFXI, though zoned was a game where the grandeur and environmental detail encompassed the player -- same with WoW. Art direction plays a huge part of my personal interest and dedication to a game.

    I find gameplay is rarely an issue that turns me off of a game, it's how I feel I can integrate, through my character, into the world.

    If Warhammer does this, it will be number one for me. :)

  • TvveakerTvveaker Member UncommonPosts: 16

     

    Originally posted by whitedelight

    Originally posted by okor


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    Obviously you haven't read the beta boards.

    Me thinks he isnt in beta.

     

    Just a troll.

  • DreawingDreawing Member Posts: 362

    (Blizzard rep) i wouldn't be talking about your pvp man, you guys screwed up your pvp alot.. when your exp comes out you wont conquer the terms of doac siege and the pvp will be screwed more... but your pve is believable but not the pvp sorry to say..

     

    MYTHIC, etc ..  WARHAMMER ONLINE  and DAOC has the best pvp there will ever be!!! Not WOW

    wow=waiting on warhammer !!!!!

     

    DARK ELVES!!!

  • ImpyrielImpyriel Member UncommonPosts: 711

    Originally posted by BlizzardRep


     
    Originally posted by Impyriel


    Lol  @ PvP^^^^^^^

     

     

    World of Warcraft has some of the most Revolutionary PvP in the history of MMORPG.  I wouldnt be suprise if warhammer were to copy are ideals.

    So many flaws in this statement I'm not even going to waste my time.

  • LysandrosLysandros Member Posts: 44

    WoW definitely does not have the most revolutionary PVP system of any game, but it was fun.

    From the addition of Battlegrounds in the start, to the Arena teams they did make changes that were, in my opinion, perfect for the casual gamer -- which is WoW's appeal. The PVP style of WoW was centered and refocused, after the failure of the ranking system from Private/Scout - Grand Marshall, perfectly for the community I believe.

    Ballista (PVP in FFXI) was in my opinion some of the most unique and fun PVP I've had. I really liked the "nationalism" that composed PVP in FFXI.

    That's just my opinion. :)

  • LordRelicLordRelic Member Posts: 281
    Originally posted by xray00


    Looking to de-throne WoW as the biggest game is always a mistake.  That is a fluke and aiming for that is a pipe dream at the best.
    WAR will stand on its own terms.  It will live if people enjoy it and die if they screw it up.  The only game that has a chance of dethroning WoW is one that you plug directly into you brain so its feels like you really are there and that is a long way off.
    WoW will die from age long before another game kills it.

      Can anyone say Fanboie....... wow broke itself already people have just yet to see it cause of there ignorance to the fact that its nothing special......

  • DreawingDreawing Member Posts: 362

    wow will fail by expansion because its just grind for the gear.. The siege warfare is going fail. Then nice copyin the nutrual zones like off warhammer online to.. :P

    Paul Barnett said...

    Wow is the beatles, and War is led zepplin

    but with pvp..

    wow is nubs, War is God

    Because Mythic knows how to make better pvp then blizzard in my opion..

     

  • christwariorchristwarior Member Posts: 126

    Wow, you guys seriously think that BlizzardRep is really from Blizzard? A real Blizzard rep wouldn't be going to other forums and acting like WoW is better than it really is. What we have with him is a troll.

    PS: Do you honestly think a Blizzard rep would have that bad of grammar?

  • butters88butters88 Member Posts: 379

    In many people eye's it will be #1, in other's it won't. It's all a matter of opinion. WoW is the so called 'number 1' MMO out there right now. Does that mean I think it is? No... So we'll just have to wait and see how things turn out I guess

    P.S. LMAO blizzard rep... That gave me a good laugh. Why didn't I think of that lol

  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491

    Originally posted by BlizzardRep


    I dont think so.  World of Warcraft  will still be the best in terms of PvE and PvP.
    PvP?!  Seriously?  LOL.  I don't even know what to say to that.  I'm not even sure if I consider what WoW has as PvP. 

    "Oh no I died, I have to run back from the graveyard" LOL "yeah to your body that has EVERYTHING you died with still on it."  Please... 

  • GreenChaosGreenChaos Member Posts: 2,268

     

    Originally posted by BlizzardRep


    I dont think so.  World of Warcraft  will still be the best in terms of PvE and PvP.

    LOL - too funny.

     

     

    Back to the topic, I haven't played the beta, but if its done right it could take a chunk out of WoW.  But the sad truth is, WoW is a simple and boring game, but it's what the people want.

     

    Even if a game came out that was better, the majority may not want better.

     

    And different people like different games, just because some people say WAR won't do as well as WoW, doesn't mean I won't like it better than WoW.  In fact I like most games more than WoW.

  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    Originally posted by GreenChaos


     
    Originally posted by BlizzardRep


    I dont think so.  World of Warcraft  will still be the best in terms of PvE and PvP.

    LOL - too funny.

     

     

    Back to the topic, I haven't played the beta, but if its done right it could take a chunk out of WoW.  But the sad truth is, WoW is a simple and boring game, but it's what the people want.

     

    Even if a game came out that was better, the majority may not want better.

     

    And different people like different games, just because some people say WAR won't do as well as WoW, doesn't mean I won't like it better than WoW.  In fact I like most games more than WoW.

    I concur!

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  • bluealien1bluealien1 Member Posts: 526
    Originally posted by Arowin


    Im just wonderin how many ppl think this game could finally kick WoW off the top nd become the best mmo out there. personally  i cant wait till this game come out, it looks so awesome nd seems like it might be a good change from WoW. I just hope it doesnt become a WoW clone

    No. The only thing that will kill WoW is WoW/Blizzard itself, I don't think that any game will pull even 2 million subs from WoW. No, I don't like WoW, I just can't see a game regardless of what it is(it won't be WAR)pulling 9 million subs away, not unless it is literally named WoW2 or something.

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by BlizzardRep
    Originally posted by Dreawing (Blizzard rep) i wouldn't be talking about your pvp man, you guys screwed up your pvp alot.. when your exp comes out you wont conquer the terms of doac siege and the pvp will be screwed more... but your pve is believable but not the pvp sorry to say...

    I wouldnt say that. As of right now, World of Warcraft has the best pvp on the market. PvP is only going to get better when WoTLK comes out.


    I play WoW and I enjoy it...but...PvP will only get better?
    uh..Like it got better with BC?
    You know how many people beleive that resilience killed WoW pvp?

    Wotlk is just another marketing ploy to get people to keep playing temporarily and to bring back players who quit again for the 2nd time after they lvld there charachters to 70.


    And as far as PVE, how is raiding fun?
    AND WHATS THE POINT?

    So you get gear from raiding....so that you can get more gear in higher instances ...FOR MORE raiding, and the cycle continues on and on. You cant even pwn people with your leet raiding gear anymore. Not that you gear bloobs knew how to pvp anyway.

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  • PheacePheace Member Posts: 2,408

    Originally posted by logangregor
    You know how many people beleive that resilience killed WoW pvp?
     
     

     

     

    I have never actually heard anyone say this, haha, tell me more ^^

     

     

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  • jondifooljondifool Member UncommonPosts: 1,143

    Originally posted by Arowin


    Im just wonderin how many ppl think this game could finally kick WoW off the top nd become the best mmo out there. personally  i cant wait till this game come out, it looks so awesome nd seems like it might be a good change from WoW. I just hope it doesnt become a WoW clone

    The problem with asking a question like that is that you asume that WOW is the best MMO out there , and that is at least doubtsome! I don't think so. But i do think that WOW is absolute best at what it does. And as WOW is the most popular mmo game , it sets a standard for other games to measure against !  

    Lets instead ask: Could WAR be more Popular than WOW?

    Its unlikly but posible. Its possible because that the innovations that WAR brings (RvR , public quests and tome of knowledge) could be what the MMo's scene needs and is ready for. Simply put the next step where faktions really fight each other.

    Its possible that the WOW experience is just used up, been there done that for a lot of players

    The Warhammer IP is strong and very detailed and provide a strong base for a immersive game, and have a huge fanbase! Its possible because right now WAR is the most anticipated MMo game in development, and newer have there been released that much information about a game in making, so its advertised very well. And though delayed, its done to actual give it ekstra content, and they have the money support to do it! And it's possible because WAR do not make a game to different from the standards that have derrived from WOW's succes.

    Its unlikly because WOW did come as the major break through for the MMO's scene, and for most people it was there first MMo. It's another market today. People exspect more and more and  with good reason and they want different things today! WoW provides a very good and addictive play experience that alot of players don't want to leave and blizzard is going to fuel them with content to keep them! As well as adding new stuff, expect blizzard to improve PvP to meet the marktet challange!  Also don't underestimate the gear grinding, if WAR doesn't do it as addictive it would not attrack alot of WOW players!

    But it ofcause comes down to what would all the kids do , not only the WOW kids , but all the kids , will they be dragged in to a must try experience , they have to stay with , or do they just don't go there at all! That we just don't know yet

    But  without them I expect WAR to be a strong number 2 in the MMO gaming field next year! Simply because alot of hardcore MMo players, together with the huge WARHAMMER fanbase would try it out and find it fun!

    And that might actual be the best situation!

  • walker68walker68 Member UncommonPosts: 156
    Originally posted by BlizzardRep


    I dont think so.  World of Warcraft  will still be the best in terms of PvE and PvP.



    LMAO ; World of NO (war)craft  is still the best in terms of pvp.

  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,610
    Originally posted by Pheace


     
    Originally posted by logangregor
    You know how many people beleive that resilience killed WoW pvp?
     
     

     

     

     

    I have never actually heard anyone say this, haha, tell me more ^^

     

     

    He's not  saying resilience killed WoW in terms of the definition of resilience.  Resilience is a stat that was added.. to give players more stats to try and get so they think they are cool.  It is redundant.  Now it makes some people harder than ever to kill.

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