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Finally.....The world will be educated on the truth.
flainus
Member Posts: 75
LINKThe me who hears what the other me can't, is the dominant one.
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I wish somebody would do some research on Margaret Thatcher.....
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Whos Truth?
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
The Earth is warming up, thats just what it does. It goes though hot and cold periods though time. But the real question is why is the Earth heating up right now? And is the Earth heating up really that bad?
So I guess change is only bad when you don't like the way things currently are. So absolutely any change is good when you don't like the current situation.
Well unless we are talking about genetic change because 99% of mutations are lethal.
Hold on now I'm confused.
All I know is the frost line has continuously gone further south in Florida since the turn of the century and therefore we have grown less oranges in america. So I say we make the planet warmer by any means necessary because I love orange juice.
So I guess change is only bad when you don't like the way things currently are. So absolutely any change is good when you don't like the current situation.
Well unless we are talking about genetic change because 99% of mutations are lethal.
Hold on now I'm confused.
All I know is the frost line has continuously gone further south in Florida since the turn of the century and therefore we have grown less oranges in america. So I say we make the planet warmer by any means necessary because I love orange juice.
Yeah but orange juice contains lots of carbohydrates. You know what's in carbohydrates?
Carbon! Nasty, icky old carbon!
When your body process those carbohydrates some of that carbon eventually gets transformed into...oh my gosh...CARBON DIOXIDE!
So clearly, by drinking orange juice you are contributing to global warming. Er...wait, I guess you wanted to contribute to global warming.
But can't you see what a viscious cycle it is? You drink orange juice thus contributing to global warming. Global warming allows more oranges to be grown resulting in more orange juice. More orange juice means that the price of orange juice will go down which means more people drinking orange juice which means even more global warming.
So the conclusion is obvious. Orange juice is going to destroy the world. This terrible truth has been hidden from the public by a conspiracy of the greedy orange juice conglomerates.
Don't be a puppet for them anymore! Let's take to the streets and protest global oranging!
DOWN WITH CITRUS!!! LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!!
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New Rule: Democrats have to claim their rightful place as the party of environmental protection. Now...for way too long, Republicans have been getting away with rolling their eyes when anyone mentions the planet. You know, as if it's "Smurf Forest" we're talking about instead of the one and only place we can survive!
Now, April 21 is Earth Day, when President Bush gets his picture taken in front of a tree and Dick Cheney shoots whatever flies out of it. And, as despicable as this administration's record on the environment is, it never was their issue. But Al Gore made a living in the Senate talking about the environment. He makes a living talking about it now. It's just when he was running for president that he shut up. And that's why Democrats keep losing. They don't stand up for what they believe in, yes, like "girly-men", from making the counter-argument.
"How can we explain climate change in a 30-second campaign ad?" Oh, I don't know. How about this: "The Republicans want your children to die." There, I did it with 28 seconds left. Is that scaring us? Well, somebody ought to.
How come the Republicans can pick seemingly bogus, random issues like activist judges and boys kissing, and Mexicans pouring over our borders, and get everyone all worked up about it, and the Democrats can't figure out how to demagogue Armageddon?
Hey...you know what else is pouring over our borders? Greenland. You know, Republicans do a lot of things badly, like plan wars and balance budgets and...dance. But they sure understand that the winner in an election is the one who scares the most crap out of the voters. "Gay marriage!" "Terror alerts!" "The war on Christmas!" How long before Janet Jackson's tit strikes again?! And it's a lot bigger now.
But the environment is real. You can smell it. In parts of Houston, you can grab hunks of it with your hands and use it to lube your car! And if there is a single face you might want to use to personify this evil, he was in the news recently: the retiring and handsomely-compensated chairman of Exxon Mobil, Lee "Fat Bastard" Raymond.
If Lee looks like he's been eating the earth, he has. Even worse, his company has been paying for fake science to confuse people into thinking global warming was still too iffy to act on. You know, if the Democrats can't make this prick into their Willy Horton, they are so pathetic, they might as well go ahead and nominate for president that nice blonde lady who married Bill Clinton. You'll thank me in a year.
Ladies and gentlemen, I literally fear for my kids' future, and I don't even have kids. Glacier National Park in Montana, you know, named for its glaciers, had 150 glaciers when they opened. It's got 26 left today. If we don't take care of places like Montana, we're going to faced with an even bigger problem: gay married men with absolutely no place to go fishing.
The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.
I can't figure out which parts of this are supposed to be serious, funny, or hyperbole...nor can I figure out if the beginning is at all serious, especially the "we want your children to die" comment...wow...just...wow
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
As much as I don't believe the whole argument "if 5,000 scientists say it is so, then it is so," I also don't believe the "400 scientists say it isn't so" argument either.
The "truth" is that we don't really know what is causing global warming. Heck we are not positive if it is really warming in the grand scheme. Yeah we have indicators and benchmarks over the last less than one hundred years, but really that doesn't tell us all that much. The other "truth" is that our presence on the planet does have an environmental impact all the way down to the individual level.
The debate is far from over in my book, and I honestly don't believe it will be answered with 100% certainty in my lifetime.
It is.
How old are you? Let's say that if you are under the 20's like I am... you will suffer the consequences.
People should really watch "An inconvinient truth" from Al Gore. Might not be the 100% truth, but you know that relates to what is happening right now, and we WILL suffer the consequences if we don't take actions.
But since we are too selfish to reach that conclusion...
What do these scientists claim is the reason then? The price of not doing anything and man made global warming being truth is still too high to risk anything.
Perhaps if you lived through "Global Cooling" a few years ago, you would be skeptical of "Global Warming".
I personnaly think the only reason the warming cult has gotten such a foothold is the advent of 24 hour news and the internet.
"Global Warming" propaganda is the promotional tool for a global carbon tax. This global carbon tax will fund the global government. Activities to be taxed include, driving your car, heating your home, and breathing (all of these emit carbon). If thats what you are into, fine. Just be aware of what you are really supporting when you buy into the hype.
I think you had better watch out if they know that you know you may be seeing albino priests under your bed while reading that Dan Brown book
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
♦Hands Windstrike a tinfoil hat ♦I think you had better watch out if they know that you know you may be seeing albino priests under your bed while reading that Dan Brown book
Is that the best you can do?
Edit: Actually I don't know for sure what you are saying. The tinfoil hat thing threw me off. And I don't read Dan Brown. Sorry.
It is.
How old are you? Let's say that if you are under the 20's like I am... you will suffer the consequences.
People should really watch "An inconvinient truth" from Al Gore. Might not be the 100% truth, but you know that relates to what is happening right now, and we WILL suffer the consequences if we don't take actions.
But since we are too selfish to reach that conclusion...
Mentioning that movie as a way to become educated about the topic of global warming is a good way to completely trash your credability in these forums. We're a fairly smart group here and what Al Gore has to say about Global Warming is of almost no concern.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Global Cooling does exist, known as Global Dimming
New Rule: From now on, Earth Day really must be a year-round thing. And in honor of this Earth Day, starting Monday, supermarket clerks must stop putting the big bottle of detergent with the handle on it, in a plastic bag. I don't mean to tell you how to do your job, but you see that handle you just lifted the detergent with? I could use that same handle to carry the detergent to my car.
And while we're at it, stop putting my liquor in a smaller paper sack before you put it in the big paper sack with my other stuff. What, are you afraid my groceries will think less of me if they see I've been drinking? Trust me, the broccoli doesn't care, and the condoms, they already know.
So, here's a quote from Albert Einstein. He said, if the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe, then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination. No more plants. No more animals. No more man. Well, guess what? The bees are disappearing in massive numbers all around the world. And if you think I'm being alarmist, and that, "Oh, they'll figure out some way to pollinate the plants." No, they've tried.
For a lot of what we eat, only bees work. And they're not working. They're gone. It's called "colony collapse disorder," when the hive's inhabitants suddenly disappear and all that's left are a few queens and some immature workers. Like when a party winds down at Elton John's house.
But, I think we are the ones suffering from colony collapse disorder. Because, although nobody really knows for sure what's killing the bees, it's not Al Qaeda, and it's not God doing some of his Old Testament shtick. And it's not Winnie the Pooh. It's us. It could be from pesticides or genetically-modified food or global warming, or the high fructose corn syrup we started to feed them.
Recently, it was discovered that bees won't fly near cell phones. The electromagnetic signals they emit might screw up the bees' navigation system, knocking them out of the sky. So, thanks, big mouth guy in line at Starbucks. You just killed us.
It's nature's way of saying, "Can you hear me now?"
Last week, I asked, if it solved global warming, would you give up the TV remote and go back to carting your fat ass over to the television set every time you wanted to change the channel. If it comes down to the cell phone versus the bee, will we choose to literally blather ourselves to death? Will we continue to tell ourselves that we don't have to solve environmental problems, we can just adapt? Build sea walls instead of stopping the ice caps from melting. Don't save the creatures of the earth in the oceans; just learn to eat the slime and the jellyfish that nothing can kill; like Chinese restaurants are already doing.
You know what? Maybe you don't need to talk on your cell phone all the time. Maybe you don't need a bag when you buy a keychain. Americans throw out 100 billion plastic bags a year, and they all take 1,000 years to decompose. Your children's children's children will never know you, but they'll know you once bought batteries at the 99-cents Store because the bag will still be caught in a tree. Except there won't be any trees.
April 21 is Earth Day. Please educate someone about the birds and the bees. Because, without bees, humans become the canary in the coal mine. And we make bad canaries, because we're already such sheep.
The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.
Their is no perfect " temp " for the earth,Co2 is not a pollutant,The damm weather man or woman can't tell me when its going to rain,much less tell me that some warming is going to hurt us all.
It's an agenda.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Yay for drive-by media.
I stopped reading when you started talking about the bees...last I heard the bees were coming back and everything was fine...perhaps you should stay more current if you're going to get up on your soapbox? If you have an article more recent than a few weeks ago that says that the bees are STILL dying then please post it.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
You know what I don't get? Why we need this global warming bull shit in order to even think about taking care of our environment. Shouldn't the fact that we live on Earth be enough that we don't pollute the living shit out of it? I don't know about you, but I keep my house clean, I try not to smear my shit on the walls, why can't we all just do the same on a much larger scale?
It is.
How old are you? Let's say that if you are under the 20's like I am... you will suffer the consequences.
People should really watch "An inconvinient truth" from Al Gore. Might not be the 100% truth, but you know that relates to what is happening right now, and we WILL suffer the consequences if we don't take actions.
But since we are too selfish to reach that conclusion...
Not 100% truth? Gore predicts flooding that is about 15 times greater than the WORST CASE scenario out there, presented by scientists generally agreeing with him. I will agree that certain of his points are valid, but the video is almost pure bullshit.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
It is.
How old are you? Let's say that if you are under the 20's like I am... you will suffer the consequences.
People should really watch "An inconvinient truth" from Al Gore. Might not be the 100% truth, but you know that relates to what is happening right now, and we WILL suffer the consequences if we don't take actions.
But since we are too selfish to reach that conclusion...
Not 100% truth? Gore predicts flooding that is about 15 times greater than the WORST CASE scenario out there, presented by scientists generally agreeing with him. I will agree that certain of his points are valid, but the video is almost pure bullshit.
Thank you
Apokaliptik if you got all youre knowledge about global warming from "An Incovinient Truth" you have only been gething half the story. Their are something like 9 false statments in that movie. One is the false statments is how the bear died. The polar bear died in a storm.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uO9laiUXS1o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldXRB4U3vW0
Lets put aside the debate of global warming and look at the facts.
The fact is the world is warming up. What we should be concerned with is not why but how we will live with it and what does it mean to us. The serious problem is global food supply. If the world would to heat up 3 more degrees within 100years like they say for the average global temp then we will gain over 1 million square miles of new dry earth that use to be fertile farm lands. For example in 2006 Spains fertile farm lands turned to dust and dry dirt over 40%. With record recorded highs in those regions. After this we had to supply over 3billion in wheat aid to Spain.
Many of you don't care about global warming but what should scare you is what it is going to do to our food supplies. Imagine if we had a food shortage, people would starve to death and WAR would ensue, the people would revolt. Just like with gas, the prices going up and if there was ever a shortage food would be so expensive that middle income families wouldn't survive. All these factors together in the future for us might not be so positive.
You should never take anything the government says, or the media without some suspicion (THAT INCLUDES WIKIPEDIA; if your in university, its almost a 100% guarantee you will get an automatic fail if you use wikipedia as a reference or source - at least for science students).
The best thing for anyone to do is to actually read published science articles from a scholarly site or the like; they are unbiased and provide PROOF. They are also heavily criticized by fellow scientists.
And yes, the globe does go through periods of cooling and warming, but thats not the issue; its the fact that this cycle of warming is happening at an increased pace. You can see evidence all around you, just look at the sporadic weather patterns that are happening, it may not seem like anything significant but it is. Soon you'll see huge changes;ocean currents will get affected, nutrient cycles will then shift, animals will migrate/enter endangerment/extinction, not to mention weather patterns will also change with the ocean currents, I can honestly go on and on and on. The good thing is, things can still be resolved, we haven't crossed "the point of no return."
Neanderthal, your entire orange juice "thingy" (because I honestly have no other word for it), is just...insane. The amount of CO2 you produce from respiration is sooooooooooooooooooooooo minute in the macro-level of things. My ecology is a little rusty, but if I remember right, something like 1 average tree - a pine for the sake of argument - is more than enough to offset CO2 emissions for an average family of 4 (that includes everything in their daily life). If you were being sarcastic then...
Some of you might agree, some of you might disagree. Either do some actual research (i mean really getting down and dirty - not surfing the net), or read on authentic published research report, it will only do you good.