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We need to do something about "Secure Virtual Trading"
bluealien1
Member Posts: 526
This is in response to
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/071217/aqm071.html?.v=32
I'll start this off with saying that I am pretty furious about these companies deciding to offer this in games. This is not a viable solution to the current gold farmer problem in MMO's. Us, the gamers who play MMO's need to do something about this, I really can't stand to see that this is the direction that the MMO industry is heading. Is this what the future holds for MMO's? Will more companies jump on the bandwagon for some extra cash because it is now "okay"? Why don't we, yet again, make MMO's even easier.
I've said it before and I will say it again, your success in an MMORPG should have absolutely nothing to do with your success in real life. We should not be able to buy our way through an MMO, whether it be by buying gold, armour, weapons, or other things. I do not want to compete with people with more money then me that spend half as much time in the game for things. How many of you buy cash in real life?
Are MMO's not yet easy enough? We've got our swift travels, button-mashing combat systems, "let-me-show-you-exactly-how-to-do-everything," MMO's. Are we trying to make it so that people don't actually have to play MMO's? Can we buy max level characters too? Why not?
We need to do something about this. We cannot stand by as one of our favorite activities gets destroyed before us.
I, personally, will not play any game with this time of system in it. If I do somehow end up playing a game like this, I will gladly train every mob in the area onto these farmers, whether they are legit or not, they are farmers, they are my enemy, I will train them just as I do in current MMO's.
Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions?
Comments
Honestly, I don't care if somebody buys gold. That gold was properly earned by another player who simply had enough time to earn it. It's just transferring from one player to another, like trading. You don't complain and throw a fit because some player who didn't raid constantly traded gold for a valuable/rare piece of equipment. It doesn't ruin the economy because that gold was in the economy to begin with. In my opinion, the only problem would be if players were botting/hacking to earn the gold/items in the first place.
I'll tell you what we are gonna do...
Not a damn thing!!!
We are gonna accept it, well or we arn't gonna be playing. In it's own way it is not all bad. The thing that pisses me off about it though, is how these gaming companies put up such a front about how you would be banned if caught doing it for so many years.
I don't really think you are looking at the bigger picture. if one company does it and gets away with it, then pretty much all the others will follow. I mean, if you can bring more money in, would you not do it?
The good thing about it though, reguardless of what you say about not putting all the time in. People do have lives. If you want to sit around behind the computer all day playing and not having to pay for the goods, then that is all good. If you have to work, but want to be able to keep up with those people who can spend more time playing, then this looks like a good thing.
Bottom line, you aren't gonna be able to do anything about it. Prob best thing to do is start working more so you will have more money, plus you can still have the time to play the games; without it taking a large chunk of your life.
You can do something. Decide for yourself you won't be part of this.
For me that means I won't be buying SOE games anymore. It will ensure me that I don't start a game and suddenly they decide to make items tradable.
The game and the subscritptions cost enough. I have no need for virtual trading.
Vote with your wallet.. Boycott funcom and SOE
I have been thinking about boycotting SOE.
The truth is that I enjoy Vanguard and want to play over my Christmas Break.
So, I need more time to ponder this. As a community, we must reject this gold-selling.
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WoW and fast food = commercial successes.
I neither play WoW nor eat fast food.
I think you need to get a little perspective on what this is. This is a game. If you feel you need to purchase stuff with real life money to play a game you need a different hobby.
What you can do, is look for another game in the mean-time. A non-SOE one. Maybe one that will be released in the near future.
I found it is much easier to change a game if you can substitute it for something other. Either a hobby or a game.
I would personally welcome making selling of items and accounts legit. It already goes on rampantly as it is. The bigger the game, the more sellers and buyers there are. You can not stop it and you never will. The only people with the problem are the ones who dont think there virtual accomplishments are going to be as recognized when any joe schmoe can buy there way into the game ....get over it.
This is just plain stupid. i get the feeling you have bought gold before. with the likes of you in the mmorpg community what chance does any real gamer have? I'm refusing to play a game that supports this. economy will be made meaningless as most of the gold on a server will be created my bots/farmers. spawn points will be occupied with farmers/bots, giving the real player no chance. can u imagine all the little rich annoying kids in there e-peen gear...pwnpwnpwnpwnpwn!!! ugh its killing me to think of it. As things stand now, ill be going back to Blizzard since there the only company thats spoken out against it so far. Hopefully Mythic will too. As for Funcom, for shame!!
Funcom already stated that they will not support livegamer in Age of Conan or Anarchy Online. They said it's for their upcoming casual mmo that has yet to be announced.
Our god is the only god!
The world is BLACK! or WHITE!
There is no gray. To attempt to control money trading is a blasphemy and evil.
The only "true" route to take is to rally our small insignificant group of people and boycott!
We are opposed your your senisble attempts to control this industry full of SCAMS and SPAMS. We dont want the chinese getting that billion dollars, but we dont want YOU TO GET IT EITHER.
The problem WILL GO AWAY. Its just NOBODY has tried hard enough. NOBODY has stood strong enough.
Forget the 100 thousand people who will never read this.
Forget the 100 thousand who will buy gold and never know its against the rules.
FOR WE SHALL STAND STRONG. INFLEXIBLE AND STRONG.
...because we dont care about fixing spamming, scamming, hacking, and sweatshops. All of which can take a huge hit. We dont care about legitimizing something that many, many people have found to be a great addition to their game in EQ2. We care about our ideals! We care about NO CHANGE, WE WILL NOT STAND FOR CHANGE...
while were on the soap box, why not rant about the lack of innovation in the mmorpgs of '07?
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
Most of the games are so easy to accumlulate wealth, why would anyone ever buy into it? Mostly because they dont have time. If they dont have the tiem, why should I care If they spend there money to buy it? After all ...its just a game right?
So why would I welcome it? Because I do have the time ....Ill make an extra accout or so and sell to people that want to buy. May as well make an extra buck doing nothing mroe than playing a game or levelign an account.
Plus these so called rich kids, ie .rich adults with jobs ....are already buying gold and kicking your arse so there will be no change.
Not a hard choice for me, any game company that supports this doesn't get my subscription. And its not really a hard choice when these are the companies supporting it none of them have made a good game just gives more reason not to buy another one of their shitty games in the future.
Edit: RMT is a form of cheating now they want to legitamise it, lol please what kind of sad pathetic person would play a game where they encourage cheating or where they chose to cheat when the vast majority play fairly. If they legitamise this than it will be the majority that does it and not the minority which will take all the problems that RMT brings to games to a whole new level.
If I were given a choice between developer run item shops (with limits on how what is bought affects ingame), and a bunch of free radicals doing the exact same thing but with no limits, I'd stick with the devs all the way. I won't buy jack shit myself, but at the very least, the first option won't leave me dealing with farmers everywhere I look.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
The opposite happens. There are a lot more 'farmers' on the EQ2 server where you can trade / buy items than there are on other servers. I quit since then.
It promotes farming, not the other way around.
To each their own though. The only thing that really bothers me about it is the ingame economy inflation and farming of specific areas/mobs, which does negatively affect the gameplay of other players.
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
I like green.
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
Precursor, let's conveniently ignore the fact that the maker of the game for which your forum icon is based (EVE) also institutionalizes RMT. They even do so through their own account management system.
Sorry folks, this is going to be here forever.