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WoW killer/clone fanatics
O'Deion
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For everyone who thinks every new game is a wow killer or a wow clone just lets it go. Wow has its place as an mmo it wasnt great but it change the way we play games . yes it may have set the industrie back 4 years but we needed that time to come up with better ideas. like Aoc and War neither are wow clones and neither will kill wow .wow just cant die but these games will take the place of wow when its time for its decline. but wow will always have the asian population and no game can take that away from them
So i think its time to stop acusing other games of being clones because no game is a wow clone. if everygame had inventive systems eventuly no one would care anymore. no game would stand out from the crowd if they all took a different direction wow did some great thing and some bad i thinks its ok to copy a good idea. if its not broken dont fix it right
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WOW was good for a few laughs.....
I got a good solid year of "enjoyment" from it which is saying a lot. The best I can say about WOW is it was a decent game not nearly as good as EQ was back in the day or as groundbreaking as SWG at release but it definitely kiiled some time for me that I dont regret losing to it.
As far as WOW killers and such go I dont think it can be killed. It will simply die of old age as all successful MMOs eventually do. Games like AOC and WAR will each get a chunk of WOW's population as the game winds down into obscurity. It is the natural order of things.
I really am looking forward to WAR though. after watching all of the youtube videos and instructional videos about the game it looks like something that might actually hold my attention for a while.
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People keep acting as if WARHAMMER online is completely unique and original. It's not, it will be similar to World of Warcraft in many areas.
I think the reason people complain about this is that most mmo's follow the tried and tested method so most have a lot of simlarities. This isn't a bad thing as they take a good recipie and add a few new features but there are a lot of people around now that want a total new mmo. EVE is the only mmo i've played that is nothing like the rest. It's not really the fact that games are like wow that is annoying it's the lack of real varity in the market place at the moment. All mmo's seem to use the quest, grind and gain level formula what does this leave for you to play once bored of this.
As for people complaining there is no need to put other titles down if they don't find it fun or worth the monthly fee there is always the option of not playing it.
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AOC and WAR both look like they will turn out to be very good games, no question about it. But saying they are going to completely kill WoW is stupid. Vanguard was supposed to be the WoW killer, and we all see what an impact it had on it......
well the whole linear, level based, nothing but combat level matters, type of MMO has been done before
there are imaginative and creative ways to implement thousands of players in one world and have it be a great game, ive already played "Linear, classed based, combat MMO" and its many runty offspring (the largest of which is WoW and therefore has become the posterchild for the lot)
Everything is starting to copy WoW with the ! symbol over the quest givers head and level treadmills. Heck I remember people swearing up and down Dark and Light was going to be the WoW killer, then Roma Victor was going to be the WoW killer, then it was Vanguard the WoW killer. None of these games even touched WoW. Kinda funny reading through all the old posts of people swearing up and down about how their game will kill WoW. Good stuff.
Oh and apparently Pirates of the Burning Sea is supposed to be the next gen sandbox MMORPG.
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Am I foolish to believe that a table-top game with 20+ years of existence has stolen from a game that wasn't even a thought back when WAR started? Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Warhammer is taking from a uniqie and original IP.
There are just certain mechanics that work extremely well. It would be foolish to ignore it.
Am I foolish to believe that a table-top game with 20+ years of existence has stolen from a game that wasn't even a thought back when WAR started? Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Warhammer is taking from a uniqie and original IP.
There are just certain mechanics that work extremely well. It would be foolish to ignore it.
I think he means the MMO aspects of WAR versus WoW, which WAR did copy some of the polish WoW brought to the EQ MMO model, but not by much. It's more in the footsteps of DAOC than it is WoW than anything.
What a joke.
I constantly hear that (according to other people) people said Vangaurd was supposed to be the WoW killer.
I never actually saw anyone say that, and yes I was playing WoW like a tool right when Vangaurd came out.
In fact I heard many people talking about how incomplete the game was.
Everyone, please stop referencing what a few stupid children said. Most people knew Vangaurd was a steaming pile of shit even before release. It was stated that the game was looking for a fan base to finance the rest of development.
What i find most amusing is that people even wan tthere to be a WoW killer. I'd prefer the people who want a game like WoW stay playing WoW or some other game like it.
I want the MMO market to thrive. That way there would be options for gamers like me and I wouldnt be forced to play a game with only some of the features i want, or that makes me endure features I really dislike.
People who play MMOs think the world revolves around them. They think because they left a game , it is failing. I left WoW, and I hope it thrives even more without me. I hope all the people who want those features dont come and play the games I end up liking and playing. After all, it is these people, and their demands on devs that will turn future games into a WoW clone.
WoW is king. Until Blizzard release their next MMO.
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Blizzard as big fanbase.. That why WoW took off plus it's easy MMO to get into..
They are better MMOs.. But nothing will be WoW killer, because Blizzard just has the fanbase..
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I quick wow cuz I was offered big "$" for my account
but I can't see myself leveling up to 70 again and I really hope aoc is what I'm expecting 
Wow someone with common sense and knows what he is talking about, i respect you a lot man i really do.
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I have played every MMO that has ever come out.
Historically the fantasy genre has always done much much much better than any other. It must be tough as a game developer studio to release a new game that is also fantasy, but is different enough to draw someone away from WoW. WoW didn't come from nowhere, it came from an existing IP, the Warcraft universe. Look at LOTRO, that's doing well because there are a lot of people who liked Lord of The Rings. That's why WAR will do well, that IP is familiar.
If a game is released and wants to, lets say steal, a WoW subscriber, it has to convince them that not only is it 'better' than WoW but that it won't just dissolve in a years time.
Remember Auto Assault? That was as different from WoW as you could get. Not a bad game, just not fantastic. If you went and played AA instead of WoW, not only would you be pissed that you played a dead game, but you also "lost" time playing WoW.
Remember EQ2 release? Released at pretty much the same time as WoW, the buzz then was electric, everyone was talking about which was better. These forums almost collapsed from the weight of arguments on both sides. Easy to say now, but WoW has stomped EQ2 into the ground.
Which leads me to a question: can an MMO actually be killed off? Games such as AA and Seed I believe had financial problems before being released and so they had to be released to attract revenue.
Look at Horizons, Shadowbane, Ryzom. These mmo's are still going, but the server part of the code is tiny. yes there is a database attached to that, but really the size is small. What costs most to run an MMO is bandwith and if you only need to transfer, Im going to guess here, say 5-10GB a month, then that is very cheap to do with such a small database.
Obviously WoW isn't in the same league as those trio and costs about $30 million more to run each month, but despite the plentiful problems those 3 games have had they are still around.
As many have said before, only game to kill WoW will be WoW 2, when Blizzard will naturally let it die anyway. Possibly giving players the option to transfer characters into their new world.
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Am I foolish to believe that a table-top game with 20+ years of existence has stolen from a game that wasn't even a thought back when WAR started? Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure Warhammer is taking from a uniqie and original IP.
There are just certain mechanics that work extremely well. It would be foolish to ignore it.
If I'd get a penny for each time I heard that phrase I'd be filthy rich by now..Yes Warhammer came before Warcraft, But World of Warcraft was released before Warhammer online. There WILL be many gameplay and graphical aspects that are very similar to World of Warcraft. You can argue all day who did it first, it does not take away that they are similar in many areas.
uhm guises and galses, the warcraft universe is a warhammer clone, blizzard bought the green orc license from warhammer, and lots of other stuff
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What a joke.
I constantly hear that (according to other people) people said Vangaurd was supposed to be the WoW killer.
I never actually saw anyone say that, and yes I was playing WoW like a tool right when Vangaurd came out.
In fact I heard many people talking about how incomplete the game was.
Everyone, please stop referencing what a few stupid children said. Most people knew Vangaurd was a steaming pile of shit even before release. It was stated that the game was looking for a fan base to finance the rest of development.
So not everybody said that, it isn't my point. My point is, they are not going to destroy WoW, and we don't know what kind of impact they'll have until they're released.
yea WoW copied off nothing
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That's why it's not so easy to "kill" WoW.
*The Escapist, article one of
Yeah, it copyed, but "instead of taking one thing and improving it by 100%, which can be copyed, it took 100 things and improved them by 1%, and that can't be copyed".*That's why it's not so easy to "kill" WoW.
*The Escapist, article one of
That is what WAR is doing..
I still don't get how ppl saying Warhammer is copying off of wow..
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That's why it's not so easy to "kill" WoW.
*The Escapist, article one of
That is what WAR is doing..I still got get how ppl saying Warhammer is copying off of wow..
Because they cant fathom in their microscopic minds anything else to say.If anything its a DaoC clone,unless by wow clone they mean a fantasy game thats played online with quests,in which case theyre spot on.
And the fact that it was everquest who made this original rule set (circa 1999) which is infact the game that cloned WoW, seems to have escape their fields of vision.
Anyway,once warhammer and aoc are released there will be the all knowing genre experts who'll be on these very forums claiming that both are 'wow clones lol' and how much the mmo genre sucks and how theres no originality etc etc,before touting about skill based sandboxes which of course would be much better,except they cant actually tell us why.
WoW will not be killed off by another game, it fan base is far to large and to dedicated to the series (warcraft rts) and i think its safe to say that if blizzard made a starcraft MMO it'd be equally if not more successful
As for the WAR being a clone of WoW, i agree with jim 'If anything its a DaoC clone,unless by wow clone they mean a fantasy game thats played online with quests,in which case theyre spot on.'
it a wow clone in terms of characters and abilities, and its a clone of Doac in terms of game mechanics specficly PVP, and so what, if it is a clone of those two what a game it'll be