In my personal opinion what Blizzard is very good at is determining when they DON'T have a hit on their hands. Blizzard at one time was going to make an adventure type of game based on the Warcraft universe because adventure games were quite popular at the time, but they eventually scrapped the project when they realized they didn't offer anything that hadn't already been done before. I believe the reason that Starcraft Ghost came to an end was largely the same reason, they realized they weren't bringing anything to the table that hadn't already been done before.
So while I agree in pricipal that all of Blizzard's game take existing ideas as a foundation, they make fundamental changes to the games that makes them unique. If this were not true, then the games wouldn't be as popular as they are, they would simply be remakes of what came before.
So while I understand the OP's initial comments, what I think he's failing to realize is that Blizzard WON'T make an MMO that is simply a rehash of something else. It most certainly will borrow heavily from existing games, but it will have fundamental differences that will set it apart and make it unique. And why do I believe that? Because it will never be released unless that's true. Look at their track record. They cancelled Starcraft Ghost and Warcraft adventures (or whatever it was called). If this MMO doesn't break some ground, it will never see the light of day.
Let's face it, what Blizzard is best at is taking an existing idea, copying it, wrapping it up in their own stuff and then polishing it, making it accessible for masses and outshining the original. Once upon a time they saw Dune 2 and thought how great it would be with the Warhammer setting. When getting the setting didnt go well, they just made their own copy based on it. And success it was. After 2 games they decided that something like WH40k wouldnt hurt too and just for the heck of it they merged it with Alien and Predator and StarCraft was born. W3 was another logical step in the 3D era. And after that the best and worst thing to ever happen to MMOs, taking Everquest, applying Diablo system to it and placing it in Warcraft universe, WoW was born. Every game just enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint. So my question is, what do you guys think will be the next MMO from Blizzard based on? Can we hope this time they make for example EVE clone? Or just Everquest with guns and lazers again? Or even *gasp* something entirely original? EDIT: Just to make it clear, game system wise, setting is most probably SC
*sigh*
how many more posts like this will we have to endure?
The rubber wheel is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first wheel carved from rock (or made from wood, who knows)....
But I don't see you complaining about that?
The modern jumbo jet is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first planes built by the Wright Brothers....
Do you get my point?
Taking what came before, and making it better is called "progress." Throwing out what works and trying something completely different will sometimes yield fantastic results, but you'll also end up with a LOT of duds. When you're investing millions of dollars into creating a MMORPG, do you really want to risk making a dud?
So why didnt the brothers Wright just make another copy of the wheel? Why did they go ahead and tried the wings?
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Let's face it, what Blizzard is best at is taking an existing idea, copying it, wrapping it up in their own stuff and then polishing it, making it accessible for masses and outshining the original. Once upon a time they saw Dune 2 and thought how great it would be with the Warhammer setting. When getting the setting didnt go well, they just made their own copy based on it. And success it was. After 2 games they decided that something like WH40k wouldnt hurt too and just for the heck of it they merged it with Alien and Predator and StarCraft was born. W3 was another logical step in the 3D era. And after that the best and worst thing to ever happen to MMOs, taking Everquest, applying Diablo system to it and placing it in Warcraft universe, WoW was born. Every game just enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint. So my question is, what do you guys think will be the next MMO from Blizzard based on? Can we hope this time they make for example EVE clone? Or just Everquest with guns and lazers again? Or even *gasp* something entirely original? EDIT: Just to make it clear, game system wise, setting is most probably SC
*sigh*
how many more posts like this will we have to endure?
The rubber wheel is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first wheel carved from rock (or made from wood, who knows)....
But I don't see you complaining about that?
The modern jumbo jet is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first planes built by the Wright Brothers....
Do you get my point?
Taking what came before, and making it better is called "progress." Throwing out what works and trying something completely different will sometimes yield fantastic results, but you'll also end up with a LOT of duds. When you're investing millions of dollars into creating a MMORPG, do you really want to risk making a dud?
So why didnt the brothers Wright just make another copy of the wheel? Why did they go ahead and tried the wings?
Actually the Wright brothers copied many of the existing ideas of how to fly before scrapping them when they realized they didn't work and they ended up going WAY back in time to the works of Leonardo Da Vinci and used many of his initial ideas to get it to work. So yeah, even the Wright Brothers copied someone else, the difference? They got it to work.
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Female Dwarf player: WOW, VG, WAR, DDO . Due to the recent economic crisis and spending cuts the light at the end of the tunnel was turned off. Sincerely, God.
Everyone copies. Its what makes the world what it is. I am also a huge blizzard fanboy, but that doesnt stop me from saying WoW is exactly like every other MMO, cause it is. Believe it or not, WoW is the only blizzard game I dont play because WoW is the most un-original. I can get the same exact experience and, sence I have a nice pc, an experience with better graphics from any other MMO. I usually believe blizzard does an awsome job at upgrading their games. Warcraft is alot better then dune. WoW is blizzards worst copy ever. I see nothing that seperates it from Asheron's Call or from Everquest. That being said, its time to get back on topic. I really, really, really hope that blizzard WILL stray from their current course and start being more inovative. If it is a game exactly like EVE, somebodies gonna die. I think blizzard should go with a new diablo. Just look at what they have been doing. Diablo 2 (years = 2000-2001), then came WoW (2004), and now StarCraft 2. I believe it is Diablos turn again
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In my personal opinion what Blizzard is very good at is determining when they DON'T have a hit on their hands. Blizzard at one time was going to make an adventure type of game based on the Warcraft universe because adventure games were quite popular at the time, but they eventually scrapped the project when they realized they didn't offer anything that hadn't already been done before. I believe the reason that Starcraft Ghost came to an end was largely the same reason, they realized they weren't bringing anything to the table that hadn't already been done before.
So while I agree in pricipal that all of Blizzard's game take existing ideas as a foundation, they make fundamental changes to the games that makes them unique. If this were not true, then the games wouldn't be as popular as they are, they would simply be remakes of what came before.
So while I understand the OP's initial comments, what I think he's failing to realize is that Blizzard WON'T make an MMO that is simply a rehash of something else. It most certainly will borrow heavily from existing games, but it will have fundamental differences that will set it apart and make it unique. And why do I believe that? Because it will never be released unless that's true. Look at their track record. They cancelled Starcraft Ghost and Warcraft adventures (or whatever it was called). If this MMO doesn't break some ground, it will never see the light of day.
That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
how many more posts like this will we have to endure?
The rubber wheel is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first wheel carved from rock (or made from wood, who knows)....
But I don't see you complaining about that?
The modern jumbo jet is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first planes built by the Wright Brothers....
Do you get my point?
Taking what came before, and making it better is called "progress." Throwing out what works and trying something completely different will sometimes yield fantastic results, but you'll also end up with a LOT of duds. When you're investing millions of dollars into creating a MMORPG, do you really want to risk making a dud?
So why didnt the brothers Wright just make another copy of the wheel? Why did they go ahead and tried the wings?
Subscribtions: EVE, SWTOR WOW, WAR, DDO, VG, AOC, COV, FFXI, GW, RFO, Aion
+plenty of F2P, betas, trials
Female Dwarf player: WOW, VG, WAR, DDO
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Due to the recent economic crisis and spending cuts the light at the end of the tunnel was turned off. Sincerely, God.
Because they were jealous of the birds? You'll have to ask them.
I know what you are trying to say, but point is, everything is a copy or "improved" version of something else.
This didn't used to be true, there was once originality in the world....
Because they saw a bird and were trying to copy it. Everyone is just copying everything O_0
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how many more posts like this will we have to endure?
The rubber wheel is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first wheel carved from rock (or made from wood, who knows)....
But I don't see you complaining about that?
The modern jumbo jet is just an enhanced, polished and very accessible version of an existing blueprint, the first planes built by the Wright Brothers....
Do you get my point?
Taking what came before, and making it better is called "progress." Throwing out what works and trying something completely different will sometimes yield fantastic results, but you'll also end up with a LOT of duds. When you're investing millions of dollars into creating a MMORPG, do you really want to risk making a dud?
So why didnt the brothers Wright just make another copy of the wheel? Why did they go ahead and tried the wings?
Actually the Wright brothers copied many of the existing ideas of how to fly before scrapping them when they realized they didn't work and they ended up going WAY back in time to the works of Leonardo Da Vinci and used many of his initial ideas to get it to work. So yeah, even the Wright Brothers copied someone else, the difference? They got it to work.
Well I would rather be a bird than a sheep.
Subscribtions: EVE, SWTOR WOW, WAR, DDO, VG, AOC, COV, FFXI, GW, RFO, Aion
+plenty of F2P, betas, trials
Female Dwarf player: WOW, VG, WAR, DDO
.
Due to the recent economic crisis and spending cuts the light at the end of the tunnel was turned off. Sincerely, God.
Everyone copies. Its what makes the world what it is. I am also a huge blizzard fanboy, but that doesnt stop me from saying WoW is exactly like every other MMO, cause it is. Believe it or not, WoW is the only blizzard game I dont play because WoW is the most un-original. I can get the same exact experience and, sence I have a nice pc, an experience with better graphics from any other MMO. I usually believe blizzard does an awsome job at upgrading their games. Warcraft is alot better then dune. WoW is blizzards worst copy ever. I see nothing that seperates it from Asheron's Call or from Everquest. That being said, its time to get back on topic. I really, really, really hope that blizzard WILL stray from their current course and start being more inovative. If it is a game exactly like EVE, somebodies gonna die. I think blizzard should go with a new diablo. Just look at what they have been doing. Diablo 2 (years = 2000-2001), then came WoW (2004), and now StarCraft 2. I believe it is Diablos turn again
Starcraft - Warhammer 40,000.
Zerg - Tyranids.
Terran alliance - Space marines/ImperialGuard.
Protoss - Eldar.
Heh even there race descriptions are virtually the same.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
who cares what they copy.. Blizzard makes great games period.