I just don't understand... if CoH is so horrible of a game, why is it successful? If it's such a big waste of time, how does it sell so well? Is everyone who buys this game and enjoys it a brainless moron? Can I be better than other people just by disliking CoH?
I know it's not everoyone cup of tea, but everytime I come on this forum, I see a half dozen threads about how horrible CoH is and I, personally, just don't get it... I have fun, my friends have fun, superhero fans have fun, first time MMOers have fun... why all the hate?
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The reason it sells well is it look pretty. It's fun for the first few weeks. I hope the marketing people at CoH are making millions because they deserve it. They market of the "casual gamer". If someone only occasionally plays the game, it will take them longer to realize how repeditive everything is. They market it to the people "New to MMO's" because people who have never played an MMO won't realize how much is cut from CoH. Much of the reason to play MMO's are gone. The fact that if your server was totally empty, you could make it to level 50 no problem. You don't NEED anybody else.
I have a friend that loves EVERY game he ever plays for the first week. A few times I've let him sucker me in and bought the game only to find out it's awful, and after a week the friend that suckered me thinks so too. I've learned to wait, if he is still playing the game after a month then I may get the game
What is this with all the stuff being Cut from CoH. Nothing is cut from the game. CoH aims to provide a different king of MMORPG experience rather then copy EQ and other MMORPG's. If you don't like it then don't play it. I see that most people that hate the game hate it because it's not EQ, it's not SWG. Well here's a hint the game wasn't made for you guys it was made for a different kind of gamer and those gamers are still playing the game 200k strong.
I agree that people who are thinking that WoW will rescue them. are living in a fantasy world that is better than what WoW itself will provide them. If EQ were a beer then WoW would be Everquest-lite.
Other than Solo Loot-Farming addicts, WoW's not offering anything unique. Players already solo in it more than they do in CoH.
As for CoH's numbers, they hit 100K in the first 2 weeks and now havwe 180k. ...so you can't say they're going downhill yet. Infact don't be too suprised if they announce 200K users soon as the next update hits or even before then maybe.
It's not just another MMO either because the loot system in it is fair and completely free of most frustrations caused by Kewl d00deism.
I certainly will say the game is broken currently because of Grind starting at 19, weak missions, and class balance. But it will be no worse than WoW by the time WoW finally goes gold.
Originally posted by iller I agree that people who are thinking that WoW will rescue them. are living in a fantasy world that is better than what WoW itself will provide them. If EQ were a beer then WoW would be Everquest-lite. Other than Solo Loot-Farming addicts, WoW's not offering anything unique. Players already solo in it more than they do in CoH. As for CoH's numbers, they hit 100K in the first 2 weeks and now havwe 180k. ...so you can't say they're going downhill yet. Infact don't be too suprised if they announce 200K users soon as the next update hits or even before then maybe. It's not just another MMO either because the loot system in it is fair and completely free of most frustrations caused by Kewl d00deism. I certainly will say the game is broken currently because of Grind starting at 19, weak missions, and class balance. But it will be no worse than WoW by the time WoW finally goes gold.
I don't see CoH or WoW being better then one or the other. Again, it's the type of game that appeals to certain people. Opinions of a game from 1 or 20 people does not mean the game is a 'push over', or is better then this or that.
As for WoW being unique, it is to me. It gives me a sinse of being in LOTR. From reading the WoW site site up and down, (including beta tester comments) I don't think that it will make me feel in a grind type situation, but more of an exploring adventure. I quit CoH for that simple reason because after playing through many TFs, I felt as if I could just read a book while having one hand on the mouse, blasting my through the TF. Not only that, but also how some of the missions are the same exact thing that have to be repeated 2 or 3 times. If I wanted to do stuff like that, i'll pop in an old game for my PS2 or computer.
CoH is a good game, but I feel they need to make many things more in depth, rather then making people like me feel "hmm, been there done that, next!" In the coming months, if they add more content that makes the game more in depth, I may come back, or wait and see what CoV has to offer later on.....
I'll tell you exactly what I tell everyone else who tries to say CoH is "original" or "don't hate it because it's not like EQ" : CoH is not original it is EXACTLY like a TON of single player games out there. The only original thing CoH did was figure out how to make people pay $180 a year to play a single player game. That's all they've done.
As far as what was cut: Crafting, loot, housing, sense of being able to effect the envoirnment, a reason to be online with anyone but yourself. You don't need anyone else so why bother playing with all those people?
I have a tendency to bash this game more than I do other games I don't like. The reason is, I wanted so bad to like this game. I was so excited to be able to play a superhero. I was thrilled when I got into an early beta for this game. I kept thinking they'd add more it's still only beta. I got to level 23 and was still praying they would come around and add something to keep away the monotony something different. I stopped wanting to log in. I realized that I would be paying for a game that I didn't want to play, paying $180 a year. Well beta ended the game was still boring and when my pre-ordered box came I took it back to the store unopened (the store was CompUSA and they told me they had seen A LOT of pre-orders come back unopened). I was so let down by this game. Even now I think about buying it again and giving it another try, but I know, until the add SOMETHING other than beating up bad guys, this game will let me down again.
I have a tendency to bash this game more than I do other games I don't like. The reason is, I wanted so bad to like this game. I was so excited to be able to play a superhero.
I think that is why I am so cheesed at how bad CoH is. It doesn't feel like a superhero game. You run around wiping out helpless mobs who stand still, waiting for death. I felt like I was nuking fish in a barrel.
I do like the exploration that WoW has....large world. That's a huge thing missing in CoH. That's the only thing I really enjoyed about WoW, it appeals to the exploration urge I have.
It has by far the fastest combat, the best customer service I've enountered, a vocal Dev team that communicates with people on the message boards.It will be interesting to see the things they add in the future.
I do find the simplicity a bit boring sometimes, but when that happens, I step back and play around with another game and come back later or I'll just make another alt.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
Coh is definetly not like a lot of other single player games. It may be similar but the fact is that in Coh you need people you can't play it by yourself. You can't beat archvillains by yourself. They made teamplay essential and that makes the game damn fun. Also single player games don't constantly get updated. So far getting a huge update every 2 months is well worth the money that I pay for a subscription. and you don't have to pay 180 a year to play this game. THe price lowers depending on the subscription you get. If you don't like the game then don't play it. CoH is more like taking a single player game and working on making it into an online experience. Frankly I hate all the crafting and other crap like uber loot. It made me hate alot of other online games. I know many other players that hate that stuff aswell. Hence why a lot of people quit online games. CoH is a new kind of online game. If you don't like it don't play it. There are 180k of us that love the game right now and to me that says that this game is great and that it speaks to a player community that were so turned off by games such as EQ, SWG, DOAC and others.
People who are so disappointed in this game that they're still griping about it really need to keep in mind that It's not over yet.
I myself may unsubscribe for a few months, but to say the game is "avoid at all cost" or anything else that smears it is just plain ignorant. By all things good and logical, Everyone who believes that MUST phrase it this way instead "at release, I didn't like it, this this and this was wrong with it" because it's NOT OVER YET and the game simply shipped with a lot less content than most MMO's.
It's good to take a moment here to look at the what everyone's saying really: And that's that the Graphics, Preformance, and Stability are the best around. But the rest of the complaints all trace back to lack of content whether it's limited tilesets, Mob redundnancy(Which is hardly exclusive to this MMO only. Can anyone say "Rats"?) or poor balance on powers. ALL of those things are from lack of content and so anyone who had a lot of fun the first week really shouldn't be acting all disappointed. It doesn't mater how long you may have waited for it either. 2 things you can do:
1> Quit whining and go play something else for a few months, come back and play for a month every so often until there's so much content and balance that you want to stay longer.
2>Quit whining and go help make it a better game by participating in constructive suggestions and discussions with the game designers in the forums.
Now maybe 2 years from now you can get away with saying it's a bad game OVERALL or a boring game OVERALL nomatter whether that's even the truth or not. Other wise hush up because you can't judge a work in progress OVERALL.
Originally posted by iller Other than Solo Loot-Farming addicts, WoW's not offering anything unique. Players already solo in it more than they do in CoH.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but WoW is still in Beta. You really can't make ANY comments about how it plays as compared to CoH.
Oh, and I note that in the post RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE, Iller tells us that we can't judge CoH because "it's not over yet". Oh, the irony. He's judging WoW, which HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED, and then turns around and tells us that we can't judge CoH, because it's only been out for four months.
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I can't comment on how a game is going to be, I can only say how it is right now. I can't say this game is awesome becasue it 3 years they're going to add _________. All I can do is say: This game is boring and repeditive. You don't NEED anyone else to get to level 50, you just need to group to do some of the harder missions. Big whoop. A blaster does NOT depend on a Tanker to....well tank, for them like a blaster Mage needs a fighter in most MMO's. In SWG the interdependace between "classes" is core to the system.
I was in early beta so I tried to make my voice heard, but fanboi's ruined a lot of what people had to say.
Let me take a moment to define what I call a fanboi. A fanboi is someone who refuses to believe that ANYTHING about their favorite game could be imporved. They attack anyone who doesn't lavish praise on all aspects of the game.
Now that I've defined my terms let me explain what would happen: I or someone else in beta would say something like: The missions are a bit repetative maybe if you added ________. The next post would be a fanboi posting: You're just stupid if you think that you just dumb shut up. Then the original poster would get mad and flame the fanboi and the whole thread would get deleted without the dev's ever seeing the constructive part of the post. This happened so much that the moderators becasue really strict on the boards. If two people even had a slight difference of opinion the thread would get deleted. This was all in beta and not sure how the boards are now, because I come here to post my negative comments as this site isn't dedicated to CoH. I feel this is a place for people to come to learn more about the games. I would never post on the CoH boards what I post here, I feel that would be bad form. Like going into someone's house and saying it smells, just rude.
And for the record I don't like the game and I'm not playing it.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but WoW is still in Beta. You really can't make ANY comments about how it plays as compared to CoH.
Oh, and I note that in the post RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE, Iller tells us that we can't judge CoH because "it's not over yet". Oh, the irony. He's judging WoW, which HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED, and then turns around and tells us that we can't judge CoH, because it's only been out for four months.
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But you still have people out there screaming that when game X is released, it will smear game Y. Those people hing their hopes on a game that is still in beta. They are dissatified with whats out on the market now and can only fool themselves that game X will be so much better.
I don't use game titles intentially since this argument between WoW and CoH has been around before these games even came into existance.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
Originally posted by iller I agree that people who are thinking that WoW will rescue them. are living in a fantasy world that is better than what WoW itself will provide them. If EQ were a beer then WoW would be Everquest-lite. Other than Solo Loot-Farming addicts, WoW's not offering anything unique. Players already solo in it more than they do in CoH. As for CoH's numbers, they hit 100K in the first 2 weeks and now havwe 180k. ...so you can't say they're going downhill yet. Infact don't be too suprised if they announce 200K users soon as the next update hits or even before then maybe. It's not just another MMO either because the loot system in it is fair and completely free of most frustrations caused by Kewl d00deism. I certainly will say the game is broken currently because of Grind starting at 19, weak missions, and class balance. But it will be no worse than WoW by the time WoW finally goes gold.
The ignoramouses won't believe me but what I'm saying about WoW and what everyone else is saying about CoH are Apples and Oranges.
CoH is a NEW style of game to this Genre by a NEW kind of design team supported by a publisher that is more forgiving and patient than should be natural.
I left Blizzard after it started its downward spiral. I'm not looking for libel charges so I'll just say their whole game making process is severely handicapped and WoW does not have the same depth of motives behind it that a game with real potential like CoH has currently. ...As the months go by, their potential will evaporate rapidly as well but right now WoW's is already thread's width from being a mineral stain in that bucket.
Potential folks ...metaphorically: A drawing that's Traced is one work-in-progress that you CAN look at and judge OVERALL before it's done.
...I'm sorry that some are not privy to the information required to come to this conclusion
Hey Warstrike, whine about it some more why don't ya.
The only "FACT" you've posted so far is that your opinion disagrees with mine. ...Unless you''re willing to elaborate and accurately contest and contrast each point you claim I'm wrong so wrong on, you ARE flaming, and POORely I might add.
Atleast when I make personal attacks, I throw in some evidence to make a point while I'm doing it.... you're just wasting our time.
Jodokai. Have you even played the game to 50. Have you experienced outdoor missions etc. Sure I can solo just fine doing missions as a blaster. However since I did not chose devices I can't even come close to sloing groups. I would spend all my time in debt if I did not team on peregrine island. Even in a team with healers etc. We still die especially on the mob filled outdoor missions. At higher levels you do need help. Unless you do pick one of the overpowered combinations such as fire tanker, fire/device blaster or a spine or claw regen scrapper. Those classes are definetly to good however other archetypes gotta stick together to survive. So yes you do need help to get to 50 I know. I'm still playeing the game at almost lvl 43 right now.
There's only half a handful of builds that can really PowerLevel even 51% of this game 1-50.
OTH, it seems like 51% or more of the non-casual player base has taken to playing just those few builds.
...And unfortunately, casual gamers are just that, so it's a lot harder to keep a casual SG or casual friends groups going ever week. The grind and boredom gets magnified when you don't have any friends on to play with and the pickup groups are mainly power levels taking a quick break from solo'ing or doing a TF to power level against purples for a little while and get SO's.
It's missing a few gears to to speak meaning a chain of events are not happening and keeping the whole engine going.
This is why I'm toying with unsubscribing for a while and am advising most I know to unsusbscribe for a while and save money until the lack of content and Grouping problems get some real makeovers here. ...likely not until Issue #3 or #4... (...5 months out maybe?). I may stay myself just to volunteer time on the Test Server whenever there's stuff worth testing.
Actually you don't need to. You could make it to level 50 without ever seeing another player (not literally but you get my meaning) You could do instanced missions, pick on villians a little lower than you, and you'd be fine. It would take you longer but it is possible. When all there is is damaging bad guys, ALL the classes can do that There is no interdependence between classes. Sure you may need a lot of people to do a TF mission, but you don't need a Controller, a Defender and a Tanker. Doesn't really matter what the classes are as long as you have enough people. You don't need a healer, you wounds will heal on their own if you take it slow. You don't need a tanker, root and blast, or fly and blast, you don't need a scrapper, blasters do the same thing but can hit moving targets.
So sure having other people around make things easier, but they are not required.
You konw if you play Diablo II multiplayer, when you group you get more XP per monster and it's easier to kill with more people. Hmm same benefits, Diablo II free, CoH $15 a month.
Reply that is not true at all. There are missions that you definetly can't do by yourself. You clearly have not fought against the higher level guys later on and seen some of the stuff they can do. Carnival of Shadows are incredibly hard to fight period. Good luck doing instanced missions if you get stuck with them or fighting the malta group.
Scrappers and controllers not being able to solo missions post 30? Warstrike, do you not know that illusion and fire controllers exist? What about broadsword/regen scrappers would deal out the highest damage numbers in the game? While not all builds can solo well, like mind controllers, a good number of them can.
show me a balanced MMORPG then I just may play it so far I haven't seen or played one game was perfectly balanced at all. There always seems to be one or two uber classes that exist.
You really need to play father into the game. The only blaster class that is overpowered is fire/devices. I've met plenty of scrappers, controllers and tankers that are better then blasters.
Originally posted by Fenrir767 You really need to play father into the game. The only blaster class that is overpowered is fire/devices. I've met plenty of scrappers, that are better then blasters.
Ok.... Ok... you have to stop that dude for a second there I thought you were serious.
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Originally posted by Fenrir767 You really need to play father into the game. The only blaster class that is overpowered is fire/devices. I've met plenty of scrappers, controllers and tankers that are better then blasters.
Fire/devices being overpowered, etc... This is a very popular topic (beating a dead horse) on the boards at the CoH website. In fact you can spend an hour reading about it if you want!
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I just don't understand... if CoH is so horrible of a game, why is it successful? If it's such a big waste of time, how does it sell so well? Is everyone who buys this game and enjoys it a brainless moron? Can I be better than other people just by disliking CoH?
I know it's not everoyone cup of tea, but everytime I come on this forum, I see a half dozen threads about how horrible CoH is and I, personally, just don't get it... I have fun, my friends have fun, superhero fans have fun, first time MMOers have fun... why all the hate?
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The reason it sells well is it look pretty. It's fun for the first few weeks. I hope the marketing people at CoH are making millions because they deserve it. They market of the "casual gamer". If someone only occasionally plays the game, it will take them longer to realize how repeditive everything is. They market it to the people "New to MMO's" because people who have never played an MMO won't realize how much is cut from CoH. Much of the reason to play MMO's are gone. The fact that if your server was totally empty, you could make it to level 50 no problem. You don't NEED anybody else.
I have a friend that loves EVERY game he ever plays for the first week. A few times I've let him sucker me in and bought the game only to find out it's awful, and after a week the friend that suckered me thinks so too. I've learned to wait, if he is still playing the game after a month then I may get the game
I agree that people who are thinking that WoW will rescue them. are living in a fantasy world that is better than what WoW itself will provide them. If EQ were a beer then WoW would be Everquest-lite.
Other than Solo Loot-Farming addicts, WoW's not offering anything unique. Players already solo in it more than they do in CoH.
As for CoH's numbers, they hit 100K in the first 2 weeks and now havwe 180k. ...so you can't say they're going downhill yet. Infact don't be too suprised if they announce 200K users soon as the next update hits or even before then maybe.
It's not just another MMO either because the loot system in it is fair and completely free of most frustrations caused by Kewl d00deism.
I certainly will say the game is broken currently because of Grind starting at 19, weak missions, and class balance. But it will be no worse than WoW by the time WoW finally goes gold.
I don't see CoH or WoW being better then one or the other. Again, it's the type of game that appeals to certain people. Opinions of a game from 1 or 20 people does not mean the game is a 'push over', or is better then this or that.
As for WoW being unique, it is to me. It gives me a sinse of being in LOTR. From reading the WoW site site up and down, (including beta tester comments) I don't think that it will make me feel in a grind type situation, but more of an exploring adventure. I quit CoH for that simple reason because after playing through many TFs, I felt as if I could just read a book while having one hand on the mouse, blasting my through the TF. Not only that, but also how some of the missions are the same exact thing that have to be repeated 2 or 3 times. If I wanted to do stuff like that, i'll pop in an old game for my PS2 or computer.
CoH is a good game, but I feel they need to make many things more in depth, rather then making people like me feel "hmm, been there done that, next!" In the coming months, if they add more content that makes the game more in depth, I may come back, or wait and see what CoV has to offer later on.....
I think that is why I am so cheesed at how bad CoH is. It doesn't feel like a superhero game. You run around wiping out helpless mobs who stand still, waiting for death. I felt like I was nuking fish in a barrel.
I do like the exploration that WoW has....large world. That's a huge thing missing in CoH. That's the only thing I really enjoyed about WoW, it appeals to the exploration urge I have.
It has by far the fastest combat, the best customer service I've enountered, a vocal Dev team that communicates with people on the message boards.It will be interesting to see the things they add in the future.
I do find the simplicity a bit boring sometimes, but when that happens, I step back and play around with another game and come back later or I'll just make another alt.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
People who are so disappointed in this game that they're still griping about it really need to keep in mind that It's not over yet.
I myself may unsubscribe for a few months, but to say the game is "avoid at all cost" or anything else that smears it is just plain ignorant. By all things good and logical, Everyone who believes that MUST phrase it this way instead "at release, I didn't like it, this this and this was wrong with it" because it's NOT OVER YET and the game simply shipped with a lot less content than most MMO's.
It's good to take a moment here to look at the what everyone's saying really: And that's that the Graphics, Preformance, and Stability are the best around. But the rest of the complaints all trace back to lack of content whether it's limited tilesets, Mob redundnancy(Which is hardly exclusive to this MMO only. Can anyone say "Rats"?) or poor balance on powers. ALL of those things are from lack of content and so anyone who had a lot of fun the first week really shouldn't be acting all disappointed. It doesn't mater how long you may have waited for it either. 2 things you can do:
1> Quit whining and go play something else for a few months, come back and play for a month every so often until there's so much content and balance that you want to stay longer.
2>Quit whining and go help make it a better game by participating in constructive suggestions and discussions with the game designers in the forums.
Now maybe 2 years from now you can get away with saying it's a bad game OVERALL or a boring game OVERALL nomatter whether that's even the truth or not. Other wise hush up because you can't judge a work in progress OVERALL.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but WoW is still in Beta. You really can't make ANY comments about how it plays as compared to CoH.
Oh, and I note that in the post RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE, Iller tells us that we can't judge CoH because "it's not over yet". Oh, the irony. He's judging WoW, which HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED, and then turns around and tells us that we can't judge CoH, because it's only been out for four months.
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I can't comment on how a game is going to be, I can only say how it is right now. I can't say this game is awesome becasue it 3 years they're going to add _________. All I can do is say: This game is boring and repeditive. You don't NEED anyone else to get to level 50, you just need to group to do some of the harder missions. Big whoop. A blaster does NOT depend on a Tanker to....well tank, for them like a blaster Mage needs a fighter in most MMO's. In SWG the interdependace between "classes" is core to the system.
I was in early beta so I tried to make my voice heard, but fanboi's ruined a lot of what people had to say.
Let me take a moment to define what I call a fanboi. A fanboi is someone who refuses to believe that ANYTHING about their favorite game could be imporved. They attack anyone who doesn't lavish praise on all aspects of the game.
Now that I've defined my terms let me explain what would happen: I or someone else in beta would say something like: The missions are a bit repetative maybe if you added ________. The next post would be a fanboi posting: You're just stupid if you think that you just dumb shut up. Then the original poster would get mad and flame the fanboi and the whole thread would get deleted without the dev's ever seeing the constructive part of the post. This happened so much that the moderators becasue really strict on the boards. If two people even had a slight difference of opinion the thread would get deleted. This was all in beta and not sure how the boards are now, because I come here to post my negative comments as this site isn't dedicated to CoH. I feel this is a place for people to come to learn more about the games. I would never post on the CoH boards what I post here, I feel that would be bad form. Like going into someone's house and saying it smells, just rude.
And for the record I don't like the game and I'm not playing it.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but WoW is still in Beta. You really can't make ANY comments about how it plays as compared to CoH.
Oh, and I note that in the post RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE, Iller tells us that we can't judge CoH because "it's not over yet". Oh, the irony. He's judging WoW, which HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED, and then turns around and tells us that we can't judge CoH, because it's only been out for four months.
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But you still have people out there screaming that when game X is released, it will smear game Y. Those people hing their hopes on a game that is still in beta. They are dissatified with whats out on the market now and can only fool themselves that game X will be so much better.
I don't use game titles intentially since this argument between WoW and CoH has been around before these games even came into existance.
your arguement is so persuasive, so filled with knowledge and insight. You back up your argument very articulately, with suggestions of improvements and raising examples to glorify your position....oh wait, you didn't
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The ignoramouses won't believe me but what I'm saying about WoW and what everyone else is saying about CoH are Apples and Oranges.
CoH is a NEW style of game to this Genre by a NEW kind of design team supported by a publisher that is more forgiving and patient than should be natural.
I left Blizzard after it started its downward spiral. I'm not looking for libel charges so I'll just say their whole game making process is severely handicapped and WoW does not have the same depth of motives behind it that a game with real potential like CoH has currently. ...As the months go by, their potential will evaporate rapidly as well but right now WoW's is already thread's width from being a mineral stain in that bucket.
Potential folks ...metaphorically: A drawing that's Traced is one work-in-progress that you CAN look at and judge OVERALL before it's done.
...I'm sorry that some are not privy to the information required to come to this conclusion
Hey Warstrike, whine about it some more why don't ya.
The only "FACT" you've posted so far is that your opinion disagrees with mine. ...Unless you''re willing to elaborate and accurately contest and contrast each point you claim I'm wrong so wrong on, you ARE flaming, and POORely I might add.
Atleast when I make personal attacks, I throw in some evidence to make a point while I'm doing it.... you're just wasting our time.
Fenrir's makin an important point here
There's only half a handful of builds that can really PowerLevel even 51% of this game 1-50.
OTH, it seems like 51% or more of the non-casual player base has taken to playing just those few builds.
...And unfortunately, casual gamers are just that, so it's a lot harder to keep a casual SG or casual friends groups going ever week. The grind and boredom gets magnified when you don't have any friends on to play with and the pickup groups are mainly power levels taking a quick break from solo'ing or doing a TF to power level against purples for a little while and get SO's.
It's missing a few gears to to speak meaning a chain of events are not happening and keeping the whole engine going.
This is why I'm toying with unsubscribing for a while and am advising most I know to unsusbscribe for a while and save money until the lack of content and Grouping problems get some real makeovers here. ...likely not until Issue #3 or #4... (...5 months out maybe?). I may stay myself just to volunteer time on the Test Server whenever there's stuff worth testing.
Actually you don't need to. You could make it to level 50 without ever seeing another player (not literally but you get my meaning) You could do instanced missions, pick on villians a little lower than you, and you'd be fine. It would take you longer but it is possible. When all there is is damaging bad guys, ALL the classes can do that There is no interdependence between classes. Sure you may need a lot of people to do a TF mission, but you don't need a Controller, a Defender and a Tanker. Doesn't really matter what the classes are as long as you have enough people. You don't need a healer, you wounds will heal on their own if you take it slow. You don't need a tanker, root and blast, or fly and blast, you don't need a scrapper, blasters do the same thing but can hit moving targets.
So sure having other people around make things easier, but they are not required.
You konw if you play Diablo II multiplayer, when you group you get more XP per monster and it's easier to kill with more people. Hmm same benefits, Diablo II free, CoH $15 a month.
RLMFAO... bwhahahhahahaha whoooo hoooooo.... bwhahahahhaha...
Ok.... Ok... you have to stop that dude for a second there I thought you were serious.
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