I think I saw a video a long time ago that had a player killing a monster. But, then again, my memory could be completely off. Development has gone on for so long it is difficult to separate imagination and reality at this point.
At any rate, no one really knows what is functioning or not. My guess is very little, but I am pessimistic like that.
There aren't any, theres a video that shows the world, another that shows a pig mount, one that shows a women on a tiger mount. And lastly theres a video that shows some of their PvP with like 4 or 5 people fighting, with some ship combat shown. Other than that your best source of information is the old IGN previews on mob AI.
Are you serious??? They don't even have videos showing PvE combat with a monster after all these years? That's un freakin believable. How do people actually follow this and believe it's going to come out when they don't even have something as simple as that to watch?
Come on those videos are just made to try out the 3D Engine....moving a camera through a village, have 10 players move in a field....pre-alpha 3D engine tests at best....
...There is absolutely nothing close to "gameplay testing" in those videos...
And still its a hundereds times better then anything else we have seen. All other MMO developers should be in deep shame.
I mean.....how can a modern MMO developer today make games that are not even as complex as they were ten years ago??? Every year we get lesser and lesser features in the MMOs. Not fun.
I think if this game does not have decent PvE it probably will not work. Crafters are going to have to get their mats from PvE via killing mobs. The whole game is based around those crafters. So even though we may not participate in the PvE side of the game, it is definatly a large part of the game that they should get right.
At the end of the day you will die in this game, and most likely you will get your place holder gear, or decent enough gear for PvPing in from mobs, and crafters. So if that aspect of the game is boring then you could potentially put a lot of people off the game. Since they would be forced to participate in a boring activity thus less people will want to be a crafter, as well as people not wanting to go through the boredom of replacing their gear through PvE just to PvP.
Edit: added another sentance to explain my point a bit better, also to note this is why they should show a few videos detailing their crafting system and showing the PvE available since it will be a large part of the game.edit2: oh they keep saying themselfs this is not a PvP game since that is selling it short so they should show a more balanced set of videos ( thats if they ever start showing us regular videos lol)
One other thing i would like to see is the character creation system. And i just want to add one thing. Im pretty sure the crafters will get their goods from mines and farms. Not PvE. That would only be really weird : )
Yeah thats one of the ways you get them( technically mines and farms are PvE since you are not killing players in the actual mining/farming process), but theres also regents since there are potions etc in this game. It is probably safe to assume that you collect those from mobs as well as farms.
Also you can get everything a mob is wearing by killing them, like you can players. So it is likely that to get some gear to kill people in for better gear/pvp, or to have replacement sets ready for when you enevitably die you will be out killing mobs. Which everyone will most likely do at some point so you are likely to create opportunities for PvP.
And its not that i want DF to look any better than anything else. Just that when you see a gameplay video from a MMO......you instantly know if its the same old crap...or if its something different.
Fallen Earth, one second and you go "this looks interesting" , same with TCoS. There is something about seeing the full potential by a few seconds of footage.
This is something the developes know, And many times they try to make the gameplay look intresting, or they make a cool cinematic trailer to hide the awful old gameplay.
So i trust a uncool bit of real gameplay footage, over a overhyped stylized directed vodeo.
hmm, only because i say this......Aventurine maybe will realese their first DF trailer now : ( LOL
of real gameplay footage, over a overhyped stylized directed vodeo.
real gameplay footage? There is no real gameplay footage in any darkfall video. It's just a bunch of people running around swinging swords at each other. or standing around..... and many people think even that was scripted.
Real gameplay footage is showing things like Character creation process - entering the game world - using the user interface.. Darkfall has yet to release anything that can count as real gameplay footage..
on the other hand.. games like Warhammr and conan have tons of gameplay footage that make DF's look like a sad joke.
Thats true, exept that you see the user interface in every video. You see the health bar and one action bar. most people miss it because its not as much as other games have.
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I think I saw a video a long time ago that had a player killing a monster. But, then again, my memory could be completely off. Development has gone on for so long it is difficult to separate imagination and reality at this point.
At any rate, no one really knows what is functioning or not. My guess is very little, but I am pessimistic like that.
There aren't any, theres a video that shows the world, another that shows a pig mount, one that shows a women on a tiger mount. And lastly theres a video that shows some of their PvP with like 4 or 5 people fighting, with some ship combat shown. Other than that your best source of information is the old IGN previews on mob AI.
Maybe we get to see more PvE in the next video? Its christmas now : )
Here are all the official videos I can find, theres a lot of fan made ones out there as well, by bluemonkey I believe if you want to look them up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuLeQkTj074&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU2ta1EsggE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNPhRmZbZx0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXmaIDQOYD8&feature=related
edit heres another 1. ( adds some stuff not in the other videos it is fanmade)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVzzp_VgWA8&feature=related
We sure need more videos........NOW!
Are you serious??? They don't even have videos showing PvE combat with a monster after all these years? That's un freakin believable. How do people actually follow this and believe it's going to come out when they don't even have something as simple as that to watch?
They only have PvP battle formations and multiplayer ship PvP combat to show : (
Ohh, thats two things i have never seen in any other MMO.
Your "multiplayer ship PvP" vid is a joke, how can you even say it's pvp... it looks like some scripted thing, it's far from being a gameplay vid...
And you never played Pirates of the Carribean Online and Pirates of the Burning Sea to say you never saw such things before... sigh...
But i have played VCO and PotBS. And still not seen any multiplayer PvP ship combat. Wish you can clearly see in the DF video : )
Or does that take away to much of the DF hatred for you? Because fact remain, you can see it.....he he.
Come on those videos are just made to try out the 3D Engine....moving a camera through a village, have 10 players move in a field....pre-alpha 3D engine tests at best....
...There is absolutely nothing close to "gameplay testing" in those videos...
yeah, we know.
And still its a hundereds times better then anything else we have seen. All other MMO developers should be in deep shame.
I mean.....how can a modern MMO developer today make games that are not even as complex as they were ten years ago??? Every year we get lesser and lesser features in the MMOs. Not fun.
So yes..a monster vs player movie would be fun.
In this game I don't caer too much about PvE, it's a PvP based game, but Tasos has talked about PvE in his dev journals.
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I think if this game does not have decent PvE it probably will not work. Crafters are going to have to get their mats from PvE via killing mobs. The whole game is based around those crafters. So even though we may not participate in the PvE side of the game, it is definatly a large part of the game that they should get right.
At the end of the day you will die in this game, and most likely you will get your place holder gear, or decent enough gear for PvPing in from mobs, and crafters. So if that aspect of the game is boring then you could potentially put a lot of people off the game. Since they would be forced to participate in a boring activity thus less people will want to be a crafter, as well as people not wanting to go through the boredom of replacing their gear through PvE just to PvP.
Edit: added another sentance to explain my point a bit better, also to note this is why they should show a few videos detailing their crafting system and showing the PvE available since it will be a large part of the game.edit2: oh they keep saying themselfs this is not a PvP game since that is selling it short so they should show a more balanced set of videos ( thats if they ever start showing us regular videos lol)
One other thing i would like to see is the character creation system.
And i just want to add one thing. Im pretty sure the crafters will get their goods from mines and farms. Not PvE. That would only be really weird : )
Yeah thats one of the ways you get them( technically mines and farms are PvE since you are not killing players in the actual mining/farming process), but theres also regents since there are potions etc in this game. It is probably safe to assume that you collect those from mobs as well as farms.
Also you can get everything a mob is wearing by killing them, like you can players. So it is likely that to get some gear to kill people in for better gear/pvp, or to have replacement sets ready for when you enevitably die you will be out killing mobs. Which everyone will most likely do at some point so you are likely to create opportunities for PvP.
So you think that some alpha videos are hundred times better then videos released from Warhammer?
So you think that some alpha videos are hundred times better then videos released from Warhammer?
there is nothing special at all about how warhammer looks unless you really, really like warcraft.
And its not that i want DF to look any better than anything else. Just that when you see a gameplay video from a MMO......you instantly know if its the same old crap...or if its something different.
Fallen Earth, one second and you go "this looks interesting" , same with TCoS. There is something about seeing the full potential by a few seconds of footage.
This is something the developes know, And many times they try to make the gameplay look intresting, or they make a cool cinematic trailer to hide the awful old gameplay.
So i trust a uncool bit of real gameplay footage, over a overhyped stylized directed vodeo.
hmm, only because i say this......Aventurine maybe will realese their first DF trailer now : ( LOL
real gameplay footage? There is no real gameplay footage in any darkfall video. It's just a bunch of people running around swinging swords at each other. or standing around..... and many people think even that was scripted.
Real gameplay footage is showing things like Character creation process - entering the game world - using the user interface.. Darkfall has yet to release anything that can count as real gameplay footage..
on the other hand.. games like Warhammr and conan have tons of gameplay footage that make DF's look like a sad joke.
Thats true, exept that you see the user interface in every video. You see the health bar and one action bar. most people miss it because its not as much as other games have.