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BioWare MMO Star Wars Era Poll - Hypothetical

DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062

Which, from the following list, would you choose as the setting for a Star Wars MMORPG if it was up to you?

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Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

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  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Thrawn Era

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  • jsw40jsw40 Member Posts: 214

    Oh KOTOR all the way.

    Not only do you have potentially more flexible lore to work with and create, you can actually have a good amount of jedi running around and it won't be completely bollocks.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361

    I think KOTOR should finish the single player rpg series first and than make a mmo out of it.  I picked new jedi order.  I wouldnt mind kotor though as long its based on one those i will be happy.

  • DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062

    Personally I love all the Era's but KOTOR and NJO are the best in my opinion for an MMORPG.

    KOTOR however allows even more freedom for the developer than NJO, BUT NJO era would allow tie-ins with the beloved characters from the Star Wars movies.  Now personally, I don't care about that but I'm sure many people would love to visit Jedi Master Luke Skywalker at the Jedi Praxeum on Yavin IV or serve in the Republic forces with General Solo, Leia being the Chancellor of the New Republic... even the Empire is still around as the 'Remnant'...

    -Jedi are making a come back.  Where the Jedi are, dark Jedi and Sith are sure to be...

    -Republic has just won over the Empire and is thus growing

    -Galaxy is still a CRAZY MESS full of all sorts of 'characters' within and outside the law

    -Imperial Remnants fight to restore the Empire, and even have rogue Imperial generals who have decided to go their own way

    There's just SO much in the universe during this period.  It's seriously full of adventure and all sorts of stories.  There is order, yet there is enough chaos at the same time.  Perfect.

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    Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

    BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  • clint3164clint3164 Member UncommonPosts: 58

    I just finished mass effect and I think anything bioware does would be a huge leap forward from what soe has done to the star wars universe.

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361

    Whoever voted for galactic civil war is still stuck in SWG lol.  Probablt beating his head on the wall for SOE screwing it up.

  • METALDRAG0NMETALDRAG0N Member Posts: 1,680

    IM voting for KOTOR period. Because i tend to find that movie franchises have to be nerfed in some way to satisfy the Lore side of things. Having it set out the Movie time line  essentially gives it  a clean slate with the Star Wars Mythos.

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  • SelenciaSelencia Member Posts: 180

    New Order simply because it could be a new IP and also bring in fans of the movies. While KOTOR was great, the more I think about it the harder I think it would be to play a Star Wars MMO without being able to visit Coruscant, Tatooine, and Yavin IV.

  • DeathstinyDeathstiny Member Posts: 386

    New Jedi Era as it is the only era where developers are not limited by what HAS to happen NEXT - the biggest downfall of all license MMORPGs

  • rikiliirikilii Member UncommonPosts: 1,084

     GCW, with no friggin Jedi.

    I know it wouldn't sell, but for Jedi to have any meaning, it has to be an alpha class, which can't work in an MMO.

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  • DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062
    Originally posted by rikilii


     GCW, with no friggin Jedi.
    I know it wouldn't sell, but for Jedi to have any meaning, it has to be an alpha class, which can't work in an MMO.



    Jedi are not the Gods everyone believes them to be. In fact, few are SO powerful. Most Jedi reach a reasonable ability and understanding of the Force and remember, they aren’t supposed to ‘abuse’ the practice of the Force.



    Also, as a Jedi or Sith, there are certain limitations to freedom. Both serve higher masters. Both have codes of their own to abide.



    I know if I were making a Star Wars MMORPG, I would keep it as true to the Star Wars universe as possible. Heavy on role playing especially for Jedi. Oh I’m sorry, you wanted some Jedi who can run around flashing his saber cutting down whatever and whomever? Well… you can feel free to play any of the Jedi Knight series of games. They’re awesome fun. But in a Star Wars universe setting, if you choose to be a Jedi than you should understand the role they play. So for those who want to 'live in the Star Wars universe', welcome home.



    Other classes meanwhile benefit from much more freedom, way more firepower, accumilation of wealth and a huge variety of skills they can choose to excel in while Jedi are more or less limited to their craft.



    The Sith would be trickier since Jedi focus on defensive buffs and Sith focus on offensive buffs. Still, I think a level of balance is manageable. The average Jedi is not 'The Almighty Will of the Force' and the average Sith is no where near 'The Great Destroyer.'

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    Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

    BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  • rikiliirikilii Member UncommonPosts: 1,084

    Originally posted by DeaconX

    Originally posted by rikilii


     GCW, with no friggin Jedi.
    I know it wouldn't sell, but for Jedi to have any meaning, it has to be an alpha class, which can't work in an MMO.



    Jedi are not the Gods everyone believes them to be. In fact, few are SO powerful. Most Jedi reach a reasonable ability and understanding of the Force and remember, they aren’t supposed to ‘abuse’ the practice of the Force.



    Also, as a Jedi or Sith, there are certain limitations to freedom. Both serve higher masters. Both have codes of their own to abide.



    I know if I were making a Star Wars MMORPG, I would keep it as true to the Star Wars universe as possible. Heavy on role playing especially for Jedi. Oh I’m sorry, you wanted some Jedi who can run around flashing his saber cutting down whatever and whomever? Well… you can feel free to play any of the Jedi Knight series of games. They’re awesome fun. But in a Star Wars universe setting, if you choose to be a Jedi than you should understand the role they play. So for those who want to 'live in the Star Wars universe', welcome home.



    Other classes meanwhile benefit from much more freedom, way more firepower, accumilation of wealth and a huge variety of skills they can choose to excel in while Jedi are more or less limited to their craft.



    The Sith would be trickier since Jedi focus on defensive buffs and Sith focus on offensive buffs. Still, I think a level of balance is manageable. The average Jedi is not 'The Almighty Will of the Force' and the average Sith is no where near 'The Great Destroyer.'

    If you can quote me one piece of canon that supports what you are saying, I'll be happy to read it.

    But the premise of your argument -- that people want to roleplay -- is totally off.  I played SWG for 3 years, and never saw a single person play his Jedi in an appropriate role.  No, they used them as PVP tanks, plain and simple.  No one would have bothered to go through that hellish grind for any other purpose.

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  • rikiliirikilii Member UncommonPosts: 1,084

    By the way, where is it written that Bioware is making a Star Wars MMO.

    I've seen the press releases, and unless I'm missing one, none of them actually say that.

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  • DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062

     

    Originally posted by rikilii


     
    Originally posted by DeaconX

    Originally posted by rikilii


     GCW, with no friggin Jedi.
    I know it wouldn't sell, but for Jedi to have any meaning, it has to be an alpha class, which can't work in an MMO.



    Jedi are not the Gods everyone believes them to be. In fact, few are SO powerful. Most Jedi reach a reasonable ability and understanding of the Force and remember, they aren’t supposed to ‘abuse’ the practice of the Force.



    Also, as a Jedi or Sith, there are certain limitations to freedom. Both serve higher masters. Both have codes of their own to abide.



    I know if I were making a Star Wars MMORPG, I would keep it as true to the Star Wars universe as possible. Heavy on role playing especially for Jedi. Oh I’m sorry, you wanted some Jedi who can run around flashing his saber cutting down whatever and whomever? Well… you can feel free to play any of the Jedi Knight series of games. They’re awesome fun. But in a Star Wars universe setting, if you choose to be a Jedi than you should understand the role they play. So for those who want to 'live in the Star Wars universe', welcome home.



    Other classes meanwhile benefit from much more freedom, way more firepower, accumilation of wealth and a huge variety of skills they can choose to excel in while Jedi are more or less limited to their craft.



    The Sith would be trickier since Jedi focus on defensive buffs and Sith focus on offensive buffs. Still, I think a level of balance is manageable. The average Jedi is not 'The Almighty Will of the Force' and the average Sith is no where near 'The Great Destroyer.'

     

    If you can quote me one piece of canon that supports what you are saying, I'll be happy to read it.

    But the premise of your argument -- that people want to roleplay -- is totally off.  I played SWG for 3 years, and never saw a single person play his Jedi in an appropriate role.  No, they used them as PVP tanks, plain and simple.  No one would have bothered to go through that hellish grind for any other purpose.

    That, to me, is the problem with MMORPG's... and the players... they're supposed to be RPG's... role playing games.  Fire up Jedi Outcast and you've got Jedi PVP, right there.  So if people don't use a constructed role playing game universe to it's fullest, that's too bad I guess.  The game in the end is what players make of it.  Personally, if anyone wants to build a 'Jedi Tank', you're not the kinda guy I want in 'my star wars mmorpg'.

     

    Perhaps that's harsh.... perhaps that would account for a few hundred k subs instead of 10 million like WoW, but I'd be fine with that.  It's supposed to be a Role Playing Game... Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.... not a 'Grind until you can play what any other action game would already let you do' game.  Just the way I feel about it though...

    Problem is, most MMORPG's aren't designed with enough RPG elements in mind.  Things that actually ENCOURAGE role playing and fascilitate the habbit.  I imagine whatever BioWare will make will be a 'revolutionary' MMORPG, but that's just a hopeful fan of the company speaking.

    SWG was not a great setting for a Jedi to be a Jedi... it's much easier to 'role play' when you actually have a role to play.  SWG was a very sandboxy game which is fine, but BioWare will undoubtedly be going for a more story driven game.  There, a player can actually play a Jedi, make the decisions of a Jedi and so forth.  You have to provide the player with reason, choice, consequence etc, rather than simply throw them in a world where nothing really matters.

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    Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

    BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  • DeaconXDeaconX Member UncommonPosts: 3,062
    Originally posted by rikilii


    By the way, where is it written that Bioware is making a Star Wars MMO.
    I've seen the press releases, and unless I'm missing one, none of them actually say that.

    Poll Question Was: "IF the BioWare MMORPG will be set int he Star Wars universe, which 'Era' would you want it set during?" -- notice the 'IF'.  It's speculation and hope, nothing more.

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    Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

    BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  • saniceksanicek Member UncommonPosts: 368

    KOTOR or NJO for obvious developer freedom. Though I hope everyone will not be a Jedi, regardless of the era, it would be nice if it was something like a prestige class or so.

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  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    I just want them to make being a powerful Jedi awful hard, just like it was planned in SWG.  Like 10% of the players being one.

  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486

    New Jedi Order. It's always cool when you talk to the quest givers and they talk about things that you've seen in the Star Wars series.

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  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812

    OR Era.

    I like the time, I like the setting and I like the conflicts that are happening in that timeframe. ^_^

  • RaitsesmanRaitsesman Member UncommonPosts: 215

    I voted for new Jedi order because tech should be more advanced by that time in Star Wars universe.

    We all know what happens in previous chapters but not whats in the future. New Jedi order could be

    different and new Jedi skills can be discovered and created - new ways how to use force.

    Luke can be new master Yoda. Also Sith lords could create a new order. New events would take place with new tech and with new skills.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    Originally posted by Raitsesman


    I voted for new Jedi order because tech should be more advanced by that time in Star Wars universe.
    We all know what happens in previous chapters but not whats in the future. New Jedi order could be
    different and new Jedi skills can be discovered and created - new ways how to use force.
    Luke can be new master Yoda. Also Sith lords could create a new order. New events would take place with new tech and with new skills.



    lol the tech didnt change at all since the old republic era to the civil war era and thats like 4000 thousand years apart.  I doubt there would be any new tech in the new jedi era.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by rikilii


     
    Originally posted by DeaconX

    Originally posted by rikilii


     GCW, with no friggin Jedi.
    I know it wouldn't sell, but for Jedi to have any meaning, it has to be an alpha class, which can't work in an MMO.



    Jedi are not the Gods everyone believes them to be. In fact, few are SO powerful. Most Jedi reach a reasonable ability and understanding of the Force and remember, they aren’t supposed to ‘abuse’ the practice of the Force.



    Also, as a Jedi or Sith, there are certain limitations to freedom. Both serve higher masters. Both have codes of their own to abide.



    I know if I were making a Star Wars MMORPG, I would keep it as true to the Star Wars universe as possible. Heavy on role playing especially for Jedi. Oh I’m sorry, you wanted some Jedi who can run around flashing his saber cutting down whatever and whomever? Well… you can feel free to play any of the Jedi Knight series of games. They’re awesome fun. But in a Star Wars universe setting, if you choose to be a Jedi than you should understand the role they play. So for those who want to 'live in the Star Wars universe', welcome home.



    Other classes meanwhile benefit from much more freedom, way more firepower, accumilation of wealth and a huge variety of skills they can choose to excel in while Jedi are more or less limited to their craft.



    The Sith would be trickier since Jedi focus on defensive buffs and Sith focus on offensive buffs. Still, I think a level of balance is manageable. The average Jedi is not 'The Almighty Will of the Force' and the average Sith is no where near 'The Great Destroyer.'

     

    If you can quote me one piece of canon that supports what you are saying, I'll be happy to read it.

    But the premise of your argument -- that people want to roleplay -- is totally off.  I played SWG for 3 years, and never saw a single person play his Jedi in an appropriate role.  No, they used them as PVP tanks, plain and simple.  No one would have bothered to go through that hellish grind for any other purpose.



    actually i am one of those people. I never wanted Jedi, unlocked it by accident...truthfully. I have always been a BH..used him for my pvp and pve....my jedi was used for some PVE, but mainly rp

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  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812

    I wonder if it would be possible to actually make sure Jedi were played the way they are supposed to be played. Kinda like a GM sub-section dedicated to making sure the Jedi do not abuse their powers and the Sith stay within their masters rules etc.

    Yeah...I know I'm dreaming. ^^

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361

    Originally posted by singsofdeath


    I wonder if it would be possible to actually make sure Jedi were played the way they are supposed to be played. Kinda like a GM sub-section dedicated to making sure the Jedi do not abuse their powers and the Sith stay within their masters rules etc.
    Yeah...I know I'm dreaming. ^^
    If i was a sith I would try to kill my master and make my own rules.  And if i was a jedi I would turn to the dark side and then kill my master.

     

  • DurinthalDurinthal Member Posts: 12

    I'd rather go with something slightly different.. Old Republic, but during the New Sith Wars and not the KOTOR era. It spans a millennium and has massive armies of both Sith and Jedi, which should allow the developers plenty of leeway with their game.

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