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A Month After Entering Vanguard
khj0367
Member Posts: 15
Hello folks,
I like many people probably had a fair share of doubts of Vanguard, but after playing the game for a month, I have to say I enjoy it a great deal.
There are plenty of things for anyone to do. I found myself finding feelings experienced when I was playing EQ1 and UO. The world is vast, yet players are friendly. There is something for everyone, soloer or grouper. I have a lvl42 shaman now (Rumulus) on Seradon, and constantly finding new aspects of the game. Character development is in depth, crafting at 21 is a monster. I tried a little diplomacy, that is an adventure in itself. As I am adventuring with the shaman, I find myself increasing more interested in many other classes of Vanguard, and will one day test them out.
My machine is by no means subpar, 3.0 ghz intel with SLI 8800 gt 512 with Vista Premium. I can run the game at about 80% max graphic, lacking probably due to Vista. The graphic is intense even at my level, there are often times as I was flying through the world on a raindeer that I marvel at the beauty of the game. There are truely adventures to be had here, and I have seen more and more people entering the game (including the increasing frequency of gold spammers).
Play the game and find out for yourself!
Rulumus
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Most people who don't like Vanguard don't have doubts, but have played before and were appalled by the performance and bugs. I played at launch, and the game was...well, in short, it was a complete mess. I quit within a week. I came back just before the server merge(with a new computer) because I had heard the game's performance had increased dramatically. It really hadn't, and I quit again.
Now, I'm hearing again that performacne has been greatly increased, and was thinking of coming back, and after seeing that I had seven free days on my account, decided to try it again.
This time, I was not disappointed. The game has indeed improved a LOT in the way of performance. I can actually enjoy the beauty of the world without lagging constantly.
While the game still needs work, it has improved greatly, and is really fun now, and with the changes and improvements outlined in the Producer's Letter, the future looks bright for Vanguard. I think I might be staying for a while.
Great to see you guys playing again and enjoying it. we still have a way to go before we can claim to be fixed but at least were on the right track and the population is growing again
Lol i sound like it's my game the way i talk about it. Yes i think it's official i am vanboy lol.
Sounds good, i may try it out.
I have V:SoH until the 20th and while I was impressed with the overall performance improvements the game still does seem unpolished. Is SOE working to just getting the game playable or are they also working towards tightening up the over all feel of the game? Sometimes it feel like an old F2P MMO as far as the way graphics interact. You see NPCs fighting each other at the beginning of one newbie zone and they are basically standin "in" each other. The fire also in the burning buldings in that zone causes no damage when you run thru it, whats up with that? I really want V:SoH to recover from its bad launch but is SOE working on the little details as well as the big picture?
I always like the game, as for performance I could run the game from launch. I'd get lag in some zone's but for the most part it ran fine.. /shrug amd/ati all the way I guess. I like the open feel too, I can't wait to see what they are going to do with the new customization of pc avatars. I'm worried they'd take one of the only unique parts of the game out.
How long did it take you to get to LvL 42? I really want to play this game, but I am involved with WOW right now, but the graphic shots I see of VG is just outstanding!!!!!!
At what LvL do you get a Mount?
What is the best soloing class?, DPSHealerminons
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Malfurion&n=Lock+and+Shackles&p=1
Guild info
I'm still very new to Vanguard myself for all practical purposes, so my advice about classes probably isn't much help. I can say that I solo just fine with my disciple (martial artist healer) so far. It's been great fun.
I got to lvl42 in about a month. I played pretty heavily for that month. The main reason however is due to the 50% exp bonus for the holidays.
Mount is fairly cheap, starting at lvl10 for about 10 silvers or so.
As far as soloing classes are concerned, I think most classes can solo in some way or the other, even though I haven't really tried much other class except shaman.
Ive decieded to come back as well,hearing good things,want to see for myself.Have better hardware as well this time around, like to get back into it,thought it was a good game,but with terrible performance,sounds like its time to return after all the positive things ive heard over the last couple of months.
Awesome! Glad to hear that this game is turning out to be a somewhat success. I played about a week after launch, quit about a week later because of crashes and the amount of bugs, plus my PC was crap.
So, I went back in about a month after that to see if anything changed, just during the server merge, and I ended up playing for about two weeks, then quit. I stuck to DDO for a while, now I am in WoW because I'm bored with life. If this game is as good as you guys describe, I will most def come back; especially now that I got my new PC (4gb RAM, nVidia 8800 GT, 3ghz Intel Core2Duo, 300gb hard drive all running on XP / Vista.(split hard drives))
Hope to see some of you in-game soon if my decision becomes final!
(EDIT): This is the most positive Vanguard thread I've ever seen. *knocks on wood*
I found out that V:SOH was free for a month to people who had an account. So I downloaded it and patched up like normal. I logged in and was reminded why this game blows more #$$% than a whore on dollar night. I immediately crashed to the desktop, couldn't log back in for over 30min, and after I finally logged in, the lag sent me back to the stone ages. I saw no difference from launch day. I hate to say this, but this just needs to die.
I am so good, I backstabbed your face!
How did you re-download? I can't find any place on the SOE site to download it, and I've got an old account that is trial-active.
One thing to say about people that crash to desktop. It may very well be that you have a virus that you dont know about. It happened to me before and when i got the virus off (nasty one called "avpo") everything was just fine. I don't think most people should have a problem running this game at all.
On the note of the OP. I love this game. It gives me the great feelings that UO and AC did. Im really glad to hear of you guys having fun. Its so rare to find a positive thread in this site. Keep playing and anyone that wants to join up, we need more tanks on saradon
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How did you re-download? I can't find any place on the SOE site to download it, and I've got an old account that is trial-active.
http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/1784585#1784585
Simple, VG is more demanding than the other games you play. You probably have a mess on your computer (too many programs on running in tray, not defragmented disk for months, trojans, ... ) or your computer is simply not strong enough. I wouldn't bother to play VG with less then 2GB ram and 512MB Graphic Card.
REALITY CHECK
I have to admit the problems that he listed were more than likely nothibng to do with the game. i have not heard of anyone having problems like that in a long time. how anyone can compare the game now to the day it was launched is beyond me, they either didn't play it at launch or have never come back to play.
The three rules of Vanguard:
1) If there is something wrong with the game, with either hitching, ctd's, or the like, it's always the players fault. Examples: "You have a virus, your cpu prolly sux, you prolly aren't very computer literate an therefore... dumb"
2) If a player has a valid issue with game, derail the topic as fast as possible by arguing with OP either on how he presented the issue or with how the OP worded his issue. Keep focus off the issue.
3) If anyone becomes vocal with their displeasure with Vanguard, it is your duty to tell them to "Go back to WoW".
You know it's true.
There are ten thousands of people out there who has no issues playing VG. No CTD's no BSODs. Then there are people that have lags, and ocasional crashes. But that is because of their computers, did they really try to play other demanding games like Gothic 3 or Crysis? I doubt so. VG is not running worse than those on any system.
REALITY CHECK
There are ten thousands of people out there who has no issues playing VG. No CTD's no BSODs. Then there are people that have lags, and ocasional crashes. But that is because of their computers, did they really try to play other demanding games like Gothic 3 or Crysis? I doubt so. VG is not running worse than those on any system.
Ten thousands? Is that a factual number or grabbed from thin air?oh and you forgot to tell me to "Go back to WoW"
The point is the problems listed seem to be very exagerated compared to the average player. I am not saying they arent true just that it's not a representtion of the game in it's prestent state. where 6 months ago you were in the majority, now you must see that you are in the minority and that my friend is progress isn't it? i could understand if you were saying there are still bugs, which there are. I for one am not trying to say there arent. but the problems stated here are way beyond that so must see the problem people have in believing you! it seems kind of warmongering more than anything.
I admit freely to being a vanboy, but at the same time i recognise preoblems with the game and never try to tell people they are not there, untill this thread.
I'm not saying the game is not without faults right now. It is not anywhere close to as polished as a top flight game like World of Warcraft, but in my view, it has made tremendous progress and is actually a playable and enjoyable game now.
The problem is with the game and its engine along with a number of other things.
Take 30 people and log them into Vg and you will most likely get 30 different results.
Take those same 30 people and log them into any other game and you will get similar results from all.
The reason VG has tens of thousands of people and not hundreds of thousands is because the code is a mess.
I have two hard drives I run on my laptop. One with all my normal mess (including VG) and another with a fresh install of windows and nothing else but VG. So it isn't like I have viruses or other bloat causing these issues.
In any given hour I can easily catalog half a dozen errors in the game. From textures not loading on objects, NPC heads floating above their bodies, mysterious light sources, objects not rendering between myself and a MOB causing a line of site error all the way to an occasional crash to desktop or launcher failing to load the game. There are also gameplay issues the pop up all the time. Get the killing blow with an activateble item and the icon will end up on your cursor, quests that cannot be completed (though few), mobs stuck in or under the geometry, etc etc. Most of it however is easy to overlook or you just get used to working around them out of habit.
Nothing has been game breaking for me so far, just lots of annoyances overall which is what I think a lot of people experience to different degrees. Some people love the game and that affects their views of performance, some don't and just walk away.
The first thing the producers letter address is "Optimizations; stability; optimizations; stability; optimizations; stability." and it is stated for a reason, because that is the biggest reason for people leaving or giving up. The problem is with the game, not peoples computers.
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Daffid01 i thought you didn't like the game lol! you are always trashing the game yet you dont just have it on your pc still but you have it twice lol. Hey all what better advert for how good VG is now than that eh? one of the games sternest haters has the game loaded twice on his pc lol. hey anything else you dont like? sign me up.
I'm not a Vanguard hater at all, but I'm also not so blindly in love with the game that I don't see its flaws or think that SOE is going to perform miracles. Actually last April I gave vanguard a pretty good review on this site and took some lumps for it *shrug*. I can see where I was to kind or not experienced enough in certain aspects of the game, but I still think it is ok. Not great by any means, but ok.
It's just to bad that everyone is so busy polarizing each other hater or fanboy that there isn't any room in the middle to be anything else. Mind you I do go overboard with my hate for SOE management and the choices I think they shortsold on their games, but I also know form first hand experience that the devs are passionate and talented people who want to make great games. Its a love/hate thing if you will.
The reason I have two copies is because I wanted to see if a clean install would change performance or I would experience less/more problem than on a normal setup. I've tried it with Xp home, XP pro, Vista home premium and Vista business standard just to see if much would change. That was just for testing purposes though.