Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
SOE's practice, and what people won't tell you about this game.
candygirl6
Member Posts: 412
Most people that answer here don't actually play the game or have played it lately.
I quit just after SoF, only a few weeks ago. This is what's currently actually wrong with the game, and they don't intend to fix this.
-The servers crash daily, multiple times a day. Not one MMO I've played has this. It's unbelieveble some people still tolerate it. This has been going on for over 7 months now I think. The servers will just throw everyone of the game for 20 minutes to 4 hours. This happens every day, multiple times sometimes depending on the server. They just crash.
-Every patch they bring out breaks a part of the game. Haha, I'm not kidding, that really happens on every patch. They break something else. Nope, this isn't a joke, after a patch people look for what's broken and report it back so a repatch can happen, and then another repatch.
-A lot of people hack in Everquest with Macroquest. Never do they get banned, a group of hackers is beating the last expansion before the actual guilds do. GM's are often hackers that will unban their friends.
-The amount of people still playing is too low to group, even at the high end. People in Everquest will lie because they have become a cult. they'll say the game is full of players to newbees just to get them to play, never listen to them.
-They way they do beta is the most unprofessional thing I've seen. There's no words to discribe it fully, they just throw out a beta full of bugs and let people fix it during beta. When the expansion is actually released it will STILL be full of bugs.
Yes it's completely negative, because that's what I wanted to write, because that's what people won't tell you. That's the truth about Everqest, later 
.
Comments
The Gms can't ban people for hacking, yes you read that right. the GMs can NOT ban people! They have not been allowed to for at least two years. The hackers are selling very powerful mob drops and this is what Everquest has become, lifeless dweeb raiders or hackers. There are no n00bs, if anyone joins they are a friend of a raider and buy a raid ready character.
Thats why you get VIOLENT trolling on any negative post, the negativity affects the $$ amount of the account sellers, so ANY player will flame you to protect the fact: you don't quit Everquest, you sell your account and protect the $$ value with lies.
So Candy, you just continue to bash away at EQ. You're a real gem amongst the trolls. Tell us really why you hate EQ so much.
And once again show us all this proof you say you have. IE links please.
Meh.
Uuuuuh - noone wants death penalties ? May I ask why all these people play Diablo on Hardcore ? I mean - PERMADEATH !!! Its OVER !!! Cant be harder death penalty, can there ?
And about classes where one cannot solo with ... yeah, well.Depends upon "cannot solo with". In Vanguard, for example, you really need groups for some content. And, being a cleric, my solo dps, well, SUCKS BIG TIME.
So the correct way to say it would probably be - nobody wants classes one cannot solo with IF THERE ARE NO PARTIES.
Which, sadly, seems to be the end state of every MMO out there, sigh.
People are constantly telling potential newbies who ask here to go to EQ2, WoW, LoTRO or even Vanguard rather than try to start now. Very few people come out and encourage newbies to start EQ. Most everyone tells them that it is going to be hard or impossible for lowbies to find groups. When people come and say they miss this character or that, they get reminded that it isn't the game they left. I think people get a fair warning and are wished the best of luck if they decide to go in anyway. It's not like this is an overwhelmingly positive forum where everyone is lockstep in love with EQLive.
I left just before SoF (one account ran out Nov. 1, the other on Nov. 13) , but I somehow missed this horrible crashing problem you keep bringing up. It's not like it has been years since I played, though, and I have certainly played in the last 7 months.
As far as patching introducing bugs and expansions coming out with major bugs, that's old news, and it isn't exclusive to EQ.
*Most* servers are pretty dead, especially if you aren't very high level. Again, most of the regular posters here are upfront about that. I had a pretty positive experience on Stromm, and that's what I say.
My "home" server was Xegony, and it was indeed dead, which I also say. Most of the times I popped by there, the tutorial and Crescent Reach had zero (or single digit) lowbie population. Someone wanted to jump on me on the official forums that I should have been looking for a guild and I'd have been fine on Xegony, but that is very little help for the short-term or erratic schedule player. Stromm still had players, though.
Virtually every thread here anymore is either insta-deleted for suggesting emulated servers, or is beating the classic server horse. It's a little late to mount an anti-EQ crusade. Give it up already.
...
This is where I draw the line: __________________.
Note: I have to say that I do believe SoE could invest a little more time in debugging these patches, or running on TEST server, before going live.
I hear this alot. We even have a couple of threads here, dedicated to this topic. However, I've yet to encounter anyone, personally, that admits to (or even appears to) use Macroquest (or equivalent). I'm in a guild of 496 players and they pretty much agree, they don't know anyone, they haven't seen this... But I can't say that it doesn't happen.Note: GM's cannot ban or unban players.
I have to say I agree with this. If I can't get a group from within my guild, it's unlikely that I will be able to get a group. There are people out there, but they are all pretty much singular and self contained. I have joined an oog group recently, but that was more of a fluke than a normal thing.Note: Check my post history, I don't believe I've said anything different (recently) on this subject.
I'm confused. Are your referring to TEST server or something else? EQ Beta ended in March of 1999.As for testing/debugging expansions, see my comments on "patching" above.
----------------------------------------
My dog barks some. Mentally you picture my dog, but I have not told you the type of dog which I have. Perhaps you even picture Toto, from "The Wizard of Oz." But I warn you, my dog is always with me.
As my own recent thread in this forum mentions, I did try out EQ again with my girlfriend. However, it just did not work out at all. One thing I'd like to share with other though is the petition/in-game help system. Wow was I in for a shock!
I had a problem trying to use right-click items from inventory. I asked out in general, relogged, ran a full file check, etc - nothing worked. So I ended up petitioning, or should I say "opening a support ticket from within the game". This was just a horrible experience that pretty much sealed the game's fate in my mind. I submitted the in-game support ticket and waited. I did not see any indicator that a ticket had been received, etc within the game. Ran around for a few hours and without any ticket response, I logged out. I ended up just giving up on the game and never logged back into the game. However, to my surprise, over 3 days later I got an email response from SOE support; regarding my submitted ticket. Three days! This is absolutely nuts in this day-and-age! You mean to tell me that in a time where most games have in-game support response measured in minutes, SOE still cannot muster a response within an acceptable timeframe? I can understand if the staff is overwhelmed on a busy night, etc...but three days?! Honestly, there is just no excuse for that poor of a level of support service.
I am sure, somewhere, that SOE does things right - I mean, people still play their games, so they must be doing something right. But I have to say that what I saw in the game made me sick to my stomach and told me (with clarity): Leave your memories alone, don't log back in to taint them.
I will forever remember EQ with my good memories that I took away from the game. However, make no mistake about it, the game had a great number of epic failures.
Imagine my surprise when i see that Candygirl is on a SOE game forum talking about an SOE game. Of course it was all bashing with little to no real info in the post, which i was far less surprised by.
In almost every thread you write you state how horrid SOE is and how all of their games suck, and how noone should be playing thier games and giving them money, YET you say that you quit EQ just a couple weeks ago. HMMM, that sounds odd.
You have dropped so low that you are now busting on a game that is 9 years old. You bust that there is little player base and none in the lower levels, but this is not new information. SOE is not trying to get new players to play EQ, it looks like they are content with the small but loyal fan base that they have. Im not sure why they are good with this but it appears that they are. Have you seen ANY advertising for EQ recently (and by recently i mean in years)? You sure dont see William Shatner or Mr. T doing commercials for EQ. So ya, the population is low, thank you for the news flash. And you say that you cant get a group at higher levels even and that is just not true. I no longer play the game but my guild still does and i am still active on thier website. They are able to group and raid without any problems. If you are playing EQ now at high levels and not in a guild then you cant really complain about not being able to get groups. All that is left in EQ are some of the guilds. You will have a hard time finding people on this board or even general board trying to get people to start EQ now. I love EQ and have never found a game that even comes close to matching it but i tell people that they should not start EQ now, mainly because of the low population. Now if you had a group of people that you could play with all the time then i would say sure sign up for it.
Oh no, a patch causes bugs which then has to be fixed. Hate to tell you but that happens with every patch in pretty much every game.
You say the servers crash daily, then multiple people come on and say that that is not true. So should i believe you (who bash SOE every chance they get, be it a SOE thread or not) or do i believe ANYONE else. I pick anyone else.
Why dont you go create your own website dedicated to how Evil and Stupid SOE is, you can spew your propaganda there. Im sure you will get numerous hits a day, mainly when you just check to see if you got any hits but still.
Better yet, why dont you find something that you like and talk about that instead, it isnt like you are influencing anyone anyway.
Servers are still crashing daily. All you have to do is type in /uptime to see how long the server has been up. It rarely ever reaches 24 hours. Plenty of threads on SOE forums if you can see them before they are deleted.
This is why I have cancelled my subscription. You lose 20 minutes of progress if your online during the crash. Doesn't sound that bad until you've looted some rare items that are no longer in your possession, lost cash and items in transaction in bazaar, and just the 20 minutes of earning exp(ok thats just annoying not a real big deal). All of this has happened to me in my month return to EQ.
There are no groups to be had. ZERO. 0. Big fat nada. Good guilds are very rare. I'm not sure how someone who hasn't been around for the past 1 or 2 years could get into a raiding guild. The gear is so far ahead of what it once was, and NO ONE does older content.
The only people that are left are the people wet behind the ears, people returning from an absense, and the hardcore raiders. There are no veteran groupers left. The game just hasn't produced enough content to keep non-raiders playing.
Believe it or not. Its up to you.
Just logged into Druzzil Ro (Xev) : 1/20/08 @ 1:39pm PST
Typed in /uptime;
This world has been running for 03:08:08:55.
This zone has been running for 03:06:29:55.
Thats the Guild Hall...
As I read that, 3 days, 8 hours, 8 minutes and 55 seconds...
and the server patched on the 16th...
Newark
DESK
----------------------------------------
My dog barks some. Mentally you picture my dog, but I have not told you the type of dog which I have. Perhaps you even picture Toto, from "The Wizard of Oz." But I warn you, my dog is always with me.
actually, i still play this game. im on the Stromm server so i cannot speak for any other. im not a raider or a hacker. I can tell you this though, much of what the OP says is true. everything about the crashes is a major part of eq today. it is widely known that there are ways of crashing the server to get the named mobs to respawn after server comes back up. SOF brought in tons of mobs that have some sweet loot that can be kited solo and or done with just a group.
lets take the warped steel armor set from SOF. each piece sells for about 500k plat each. i believe this is tier 3 armor. groupable. to upgrade tier 3 to tier 4, the item needed is groupable. of course thats the plat sellers with those prices though not all but its easy to see this. now that SOE has stated that they are in support of that RMT crap i wouldnt be surprised at all if SOE actually had something to do with all of this allowing the plat farmers to get what they need in turn SOE im sure would get their cut. conspiracy theories? maybe so. can tell you this though its is ruining eq as we speak.
the patches that have been coming out have been garbage. those asian grindfest games have been doing much better with their patching then SOE. If you want to make an expansion pack last a year, best thing to do is keep people crashing and rolling back for half of that. which is exactly what is going on. roll back after roll back. Not fun what so ever. as well haning out in the GL for most of your play time due to there not being enough people to get a steady group. sucks really. i still am playing it though cause we have crap to choose from with MMOs and i refuse to play that MCdonalds of a game WOW. been there, done that and its just garbage.
now when AOC comes this game will be history for me as well as for many other people that are currently playing. soon it will be the plat farmers and GMs playing eq and the odd newb that still has no clue. im sure people will reutrn to check it out again but doubt would resub after that first 30 days.hell even the raiders are dropping out of this game at a steady pace. most of the SOF raid material is so messed up its not worth doing. there are still many raiders out there but before any new xpack comes out im sure most will be gone. this game is really on its last legs and SOE knows this, hence trying to squeeze what they can out of their player base through RMT. anyways dont be disregarding with the OP has to say less you are a SOE shill which there seems to be more shills then actuall SOE game players rofl....
when i started this game a year ago, i didnt know anyone what so ever. i manage to hit lvl 75 with 31 days play time. now if you cannot find a group, dont sit in GL crying about it. get out ther hit up a hotzone and start your own group cause in the /lfg there are always people looking. it appears most of the whiners wont take it upon themselves to start a group. if you are a newb and want to play this game, just remember dont cry when you cannot find a group if you have not even tried starting your own. from lvl 20 to 65 i ran all the groups. always had a flow of people ready to join up when someone leaves. that is part of the problem with no groups. too many people waiting for the next person to start one. so cannot blame SOE on this part completely as the players have a roll in that. as for the rest of the crap IE. crashes, rollbacks and hacking are on SOE.
Head Joint SoundCloud Page
https://soundcloud.com/headjointambient1
Last weeks patch also removed the nodelay hack some people were using.
No, the game is not perfect, it's being built upon some very old and buggy code. They do, however try to fix issues. Just like they fixed the West bug for the vast majority of the people that were experiancing it.
Yes, there are very few pick-up groups. The best way to get groups is through a guild. In guild, grouping is still going strong, and not just at max level. I choose to play my alts anymosly in family type guilds and have no issues getting groups even on lower level characters.
if you've ever done a beta you know a good deal does get done there. yes, some developers are much more proactive than others and but I've seen some pretty amazing changes come about in beta through those GM's that do work with the comunity. Ngreth for example does an awesome job with the tradeskillers while Prathun (the spell developer) basically told the beta testers to piss off. During the SoF beta, Sklug wrote a new tool to help with pathing and as a result SoF has some of the best pathing of any recent expansion.
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
I hate to say this but Everquest died the day Brad and the original visionaries left the game. Smed and SOE only really care about one game at a time. Currently that game is called The Agency. While EQ had reached it's peak of subscribers SOE diverted the most talented team members to Everquest II. After that resources were once again taken away from EQ2 to something else.
So the cycle will continue. SOE will fund, encourage and (gasp) even advertise their latest thing and won't care a lick about their legacy products.
SOE is treating their founding flagship game like trash. Walt Disney used to say, "Remember it all started with a mouse." He was a man who appreciated the product that launched the company.
SOE continually denies the requests of players for a classic server. And SOE isn't stopping that because of cost or manpower or lack of profitability. They are not doing it because they don't want to go back to those days. Most SOE devs seem to have this attitude the Mcquaid vision was crap and the Smed direction of the game improved it, why make a server to highlight the failures of the past as they see it.
Basically it seems the world of MMORPG's have no sense of respect for what's come before, they just keep trying to rope players into their game for a few years. But soon the project dies, the devs move on and the servers linger lacking attention.
In fact it seems the ONLY real game company out there making MMO's is Blizzard. And while I can't stand the cartoony graphics of WoW, you have to admit they KNOW how to make a video game and to pay homage to the company's legacy.