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Any chance for a lifetime offer just like LOTRO?
virtuella
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Anyone heard if Mythic will make some sort of lifetime offer just like Turbine did with Lord of the rings online.
I bought a lifetimeaccount in LOTRO and i'm glad i did.I would love to see more companies sell lifetimeaccounts.
It's so much more fun to know that you never have to pay any monthly fees after your initial buy and after that you play the game in a very different way because you don't think about you have to pay a monthly fee so you just chill out more and have fun plus there is less chance of getting your CC hacked because you only use it once.
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They've not talked pricing on anything or any subscription plan possiblities yet. The game's atleast 4 months from release with no solid release date in place yet. Expect word to hit the streets when a solid release date is finally placed down.
Turbine is the only company atleast to my memory that's ever done a lifetime subsciption plan. They honestly have the most unique set up for their MMOs ... I don't expect EA Mythic to follow such a model even if it would be pretty awsome.
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Agreed.
Not seeing any talk whatsoever from the devs about any lifetime subscription fee, although there has been some questions answered about monthly cost.
Basically, the devs said, not less than other MMORPGs charge (which is about $14.95) and possibly a bit higher.
That's about all we know for now, but I am thinking we should start to see monthly prices and packages information probably released sometime after March.
Just a guess.
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I'm sure I remember seeing an official statement that they wouldn't be doing lifetime subs because not enough people buy them and it doesn't make sense financially. I'm pretty sure it was a WAR article anyway but it was a while ago.
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I rember shadowbane had a 1 year offer that unlocked three races.
If they have a lifetime of even a 1-2 year plan at a big discount they would get more people to buy into it if you get something in game for it. Many people pay alot more for Collector's editons. It won't be xtra races but something you might see in a CE might make more players pay in advance long term.
I would consider a Long term/lifetime sub if it was priced right and I got some swag or extra toons per server,or a early launch like PotBS.
I'm almost positive you are right, I'll see if I can find it. It might be an MBJ post on the warhammer alliance forums. MBJ = Mythic president/ Lead game designer.
I don't expect a lifetime offer from them. Even more so, since they are considering to request more than the standard $15 per month subscription fee.
Folks,
There will be no lifetime subscription available for WAR. Not a chance, prayer, hope, etc. I believe lifetime subscriptions are a not good thing for players or for the developer/publisher over the long-term. If we are doing our job, the monthly subscription price will seem quite reasonable for what you get in return. If we aren't doing our job, well, you know where that leads to. All a lifetime subscription does is bring in more money to the company in the short-term and hurt the company in the long-term by providing a financial disincentive to keep improving the product and by contrast, by providing a financial incentive to go to a new game or more expansion packs/monetization options.
In terms of the actual price, we haven't fully discussed that yet. When DAoC came out we charged just a little more than our competitors because we felt we were offering players more and that we thought that the current price point was a bit low for what we were putting into the game. I can promise you this, the price point will not be below what we are charging now for DAoC and it certainly won't be $30 USD per month.
In terms of a combined subscription plan for DAoC/UO/WAR, that's also something I've been against in the past but I'm continuing to think about it as we move forward.
The key thing to remember, as far as my attitude on this is concerned, is that if our subscription price justifies not only the development cost of WAR and continued development and support of WAR, it is a win for all of us. I want WAR's ongoing development (free stuff), customer support, expansions, etc. to be even better than what we had in DAoC and that is not an insignificant cost. It also allows us to stay away from things that I don't believe belong in WAR like ads, RMTs, etc. So, you can be assured that WAR will not be the cheapest MMORPG out there but you will always feel like you are getting a great value from the game (other than the times when you want to grab flaming torches and storm our HQ because we did something dumb).
Mark
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=338255#338255
I agree with all of Mark Jacobs' points.
Also, if indeed WAR has a lot of extra services like integrated voice chat (I'd be surprised if it does not, but who knows?), a very robust and informative Herald (the current one is just a placeholder, cannot wait to see the real one), and character information and guild services (WoW Armory is a decent example) included in the subscription price, I think they can easily justify a price up to $19.99 per month.
Of course players do not want to hear it, but the more stuff you put into the game and the more support there is, the more it costs to run. I have no problem paying above the "standard rate" if it is worth it, and I think it will be. Mark Jacobs seems to be hinting that they have large plans that will see our dollars put to good use.
Anyway, I really think EA is putting a lot into the EA Mythic division because it knows that WAR has the potential to be a massive cash cow. Thus, I think the game's support and included features are going to be outstanding.
But on the other hand, when offering a lifetime subscription the game will guarantee a stable player base, which is very important for its success.
And as player, you never feel the pressure to play a lot in a certain month, just because you have paid the subscription fee for it. I prefer to play the games at my own pace, independent of monetary considerations.
For me, WAR not having a lifetime subscription is a minus.
Great time for me to make up some statistics. I'm going to say that there's a 99.99% chance that WAR will not have a lifetime subscription offer.
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I like what your saying here. I just hope WAR will deliver. There is alot of hype for this game, and usually I do not fall into it but I have this time. I, as many others have high hopes for WAR and are more than willing to pay extra for it. At the same time with high hopes can come high letdowns. If WAR is a good game, but doesnt offer me anything more than a game thats cheaper I would have to play the cheaper game.
All that said, I have faith it WILL deliver what I want, and I will gladly give you my money in return
The reason a stable playerbase is a sign of succes (for the company) is *because* you have a steady income. This is simply not true if your playerbase already paid a onetime deal at the beginning.
There are no longterm benefits for a game with a lifetime membership. All it does is rake in the cash early before your game stalls.
I believe that Hellgate London also had a number limited lifetime membership option.
I totally agree with reasons against presented by previous posters, and since Mythic is delivering a quality product putting out such an offer would hurt them in a long run. However if they do decide to put such an offer, as PR stunt or the like, I am very tempted into grabbing it.
The subscriber base is stable when people pay their 1/3/6/12 month subs and keep renewing them because the game is worth it. In fact while I'm on the subject of subscriptions I'd just like to say with bandwidth becoming more and more valuable now I'd be quite happy to pay $20/£12 a month for a decent game. MMOs are probably one of the only products that haven't had a price increase in over a decade.
I'm not even sure if I'm aware of a game besides LOTRO that has done a lifetime offer.
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From EA ? LOL
They are so greedy that they plan to rise a normal subscription fee that is accepted world wide for over 10 years.
You want lifetime deal from them ?
LOL
Perhaps , but it will cost mortgage on your house
Get your facts straight - $15/month has not been "accepted world wide for over 10 years".
EverQuest debuted at $9.89 per month in 1999, 9 years ago. It increased its price at least once during my days there, and probably has since raised it again. Dark Age of Camelot debuted at $12.95 in 2001, if memory serves. I do not recall which mainstream game made the leap to $14.95, but I know it was before World of Warcraft.
So, for those who need it spelt out, prices have risen by 50% in under 10 years. It is natural for them to keep rising - it has to happen. People for some reason like to act surprised and outraged when it does, but it has happened many times before and will happen many times yet.
In short, it is ignorant to cling to an idea that there is some fixed, standard price that cannot and should not ever be exceeded. It will be exceeded, people will deal with it, call it the new standard, then be outraged and surprised the next time it increases.
But people are illogical, so I give them a break.
Get your facts straight - $15/month has not been "accepted world wide for over 10 years".
EverQuest debuted at $9.89 per month in 1999, 9 years ago. It increased its price at least once during my days there, and probably has since raised it again. Dark Age of Camelot debuted at $12.95 in 2001, if memory serves. I do not recall which mainstream game made the leap to $14.95, but I know it was before World of Warcraft.
So, for those who need it spelt out, prices have risen by 50% in under 10 years. It is natural for them to keep rising - it has to happen. People for some reason like to act surprised and outraged when it does, but it has happened many times before and will happen many times yet.
In short, it is ignorant to cling to an idea that there is some fixed, standard price that cannot and should not ever be exceeded. It will be exceeded, people will deal with it, call it the new standard, then be outraged and surprised the next time it increases.
But people are illogical, so I give them a break.
What EA are doing makes perfect sense when you take inflation over the last 10 years into account. Which just so happens to be very close to 50%. What that means is $10 ten years ago would be very close to $15 today.
I could understand if EA raises the fee to $15.95 but anything higher would be ludicrous.
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Im going to have to say 100% no chance.
I'm willing to guesstimate though a 75% chance of monthly fee increase that includes a 45% chance of a subscription combo DAOC/WAR/ maybe UO.
Speculation based on MBJs comments.
Im going to have to say 100% no chance.
I'm willing to guesstimate though a 75% chance of monthly fee increase that includes a 45% chance of a subscription combo DAOC/WAR/ maybe UO.
Speculation based on MBJs comments.
Hrm I want to make sure I understand your guestimate. WAR may charge 15.99-19.99 or more monthly and include DAOC in that. Thats great unless you never played, or dont want to play there other games. Then I REALLY cant justify paying extra monthly for WAR. Now if they charge me 15.99-19.99 for WAR alone and say its because there product is "Awesome" or "Rocks" and then charge a higher monthly fee for another game or 2 then cool, I can handle that. But to charge me a flat service fee for something I dont want? Nah dont like that one bit.
As a casual mmorpg lover, I would be very disappointed if the game was more than the standard $14.95 per month. I am very excited to be a part of this game from launch but I am afraid that psychologically I will be quick to cancel should I be disapponted in the game; especially if it ends up being a good game, not a great, revolutionary game. I can play good, acceptable games for cheaper.
If it is the next step in mmorpg evolution or simply takes everything standard in current mmo's and perfects it, a higher subscription could be justified. But that 's a pretty lofty expectation; and will likely result in huge player base numbers which should easily fund maintenance, updates and expansion while making Mythic billions using the standard fee.
I think it would be highly optimistic to predict huge player base numbers for WAR. This game will appeal strongly to a certain segment of the MMORPG market, but it's PVP focus will limit its appeal, much as DAOC had a more limited appeal than EQ 1 back in the day when both games were hot.
I'm hoping for a good strong player base, say 500k or so, and I'd call that a win. I'd be really surprised to see the subs go above a million but who knows, maybe the market is more accepting of a PVP based game than it was 5 years ago. (when I suspect people were still getting the bad taste of UO pre-trammel out of their mouths)
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I would buy a lifetime subscription but would not even conisder the game if it is announced it will be higher than $14.99 a month.
Lifetime subs are rediculous....
If they do that, I guess it's to bad for me because i won't play it then.
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