Pretty good F2P Game

Judasgoat98

I downloaded this game just cause it was free. Quite frankly, I was impressed. It is a very simple game to get used to. The graphics are pretty decent, the controls are normal, and the quests are pretty basic. Personally, I would play this game a lot if I didn't own GW, but for a person with a tight budget or for one who does not want to have to pay for a game, this is for you.

It's free, and there is really no point in being a member unless you want a little extra bank space and no adds. Really, the adds don't interfere at all, and you pretty much don't even notice they are there.

The download is simple and quick, and creating an account takes about 30 seconds.

If you do not want to pay for a game or wish to spend 15 bucks every month for an mmo, this is one of the best free mmo's out. Although I have not been able to try Shaiya yet, other then that I recommend this to anyone.

bragat

Honestly, this game sucks. There are some F2P games which are not so unfair with non-members, with better graphics, not so instanced (well i dont like it)...

 

rhinok

Please qualify your statements, otherwise--at the least--they're irrelevant. At the most, they're in violation of these forums' RoC:

Game Attacks

• Unsubstantiated comments about specific or general games will be penalized in nearly the same way attacks against people will. The exception is that you can say mean things about games provided you back it up with reasons.
  
  Example: "Game X sucks." is not a legitimate comment. "Game X sucks, because..." is acceptable.

There's nothing about DR that's unfair to non-members.  Non-members have access to all tiers of loot, stacking potions, and bank space. What's unfair about that?  When was the last time you played?

~Ripper

bragat

So it should be read as "it sucks because it is unfair"

Ok, I should've written "unbalanced" instead of "unfair".

Those ads are annoying (not only those in game, but also when loading and quiting game). When I first played the game there were lots of  things exclusively for members, like items and  quests.

You should not try to distort what I said cause you like the game. I said it sucks for being unfair, not having nice graphics and being so instanced.

BTW I played just before my first post. I read that the game changed a lot so I decided to try. But those ads pissed me off, so I gave up.

rhinok

I didn't distort anything you said:

Honestly, this game sucks. There are some F2P games which are not so unfair with non-members, with better graphics, not so instanced (well i dont like it)...

1. Even if you change your comment to "it sucks because it is unfair", it's still an an unsubstantiated attack on the game.  What is it, in your opinion, that makes it unfair or unbalanced?  That's what I'm asking you to elaborate on.
2. Neither my post, nor yours, said anything about the ads.  So where did this come from?  You didn't address it when the OP stated it.
3. There are absolutely no members-only quests.  This invalidates your argument that the game is unfair or unbalanced to members. This game is neither unfair, nor unbalanced for non-members, in my opinion (and i play both, so I have a pretty good perspective on how well each type of account can be played). Just because you didn't find non-member gear that you could use doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor does it mean that it's particularly hard to find. All drops for all players, regardless of membership status, are completely random.
4. What about the graphics don't you like? Is it the style or the technology (two completely separate things)?  For example, while I think that the graphics--from a technical perspective--are dated, I think the style is appropriate to the game's play and overall sense of humor.  I also don't think that graphics make the game, but they definitely do make a first impression.  FYI - the entire game engine is going to be replaced with an established, well known game engine later this year.  Maybe check back then and see if you like the graphics better?
5. Instances - your opinion that you don't like instances is absolutely valid, but saying the game sucks because you feel it has too many instances isn't.  Your tone invalidates your point.  It might be better to say something like "I didn't really care for the game.  All of the dungeons are completely instanced and I don't care for that style of game."

I'm absolutely ok with players not liking the game.  If you don't like it, fine.  Hopefully you'll find something that you enjoy more.  What I don't like are blatant, unsubstantiated attacks like "this game sucks" or "this game is totally unfair to freeloaders".  That may be your opinion, but if you can't back it up, then you can't say it on these boards, because it's against the RoC.

Heck, if you had simply said "I didn't like it.  I don't like the graphics, the instanced  dungeons or that non-members don't get as many benefits as paid members", I would feel that your comments were completely valid and justified.  The difference, however, is that the above example is clearly an opinion, whereas  you saying "...this game sucks" without further qualifying comments is an implied statement of fact.

~Ripper

 

rhinok

FYI - while this game is my favorite out of the other game I'm currently playing (CoH,  WoW and Mythos), I don' t think it's perfect and I didn't rate it 10 out of 10.

~Ripper

bragat

Ok, you own the truth, so the only allowed arguments are those you agree with. I said why I think it sucks, you just didn't agree.

 

Well I played the game just to check if they removed those membership items, but I was wrong. I only had to play for a few minutes and noticed that weapon/equip drops for non members are too weak, while those which require membership are much stronger. The same about potions, non-members use weak potions while members use strong. Is this fair? If you say so, you are completely crazy, I'm sorry.

 

And what about that server only for members? It makes that server a P2P.

 

About the graphics, I was talking about quality, not style. Usually, games with an wide-open world and lots of players together have "worse" graphics, but it doesnt happen with DR. I've never seen LOTS of players together, there's no need to save for draw distance. And still the graphics are not nice (I mean textures and geometry).

I didn't talk about  ads before, well I'm talking about it now. I've played many F2P games and I've never seen one with so many ads. They make me think that the purpose of this game is not offering a good service or entertainment, its only a way to gatter money. You can say all game producers/publishers want money, but many of them earn by offering something a good game with a good interface, not something full of annoying ads.

Ok, if they're gonna improve the game, I'll try again when it happens, and maybe I change my mind.

rhinok

I don't own the truth, but now that you've posted some comments, I'll provide some feedback:

• Membership - Membership has to have obvious benefits or else nobody would pay for it.  Benefits don't necessarily unbalance game or make it unfair, however.  As I've stated before, I play both member and non-members accounts, so I have a pretty good perspective on how fair and playable each type of account is. 
  • Non-members can use every single item in the game that members can.  That's a fact, therefore, it's irrefutable.  That being said, there's a 25% chance that a yellow item that drops will be "member's only" and a 75% chance that purple or rainbow items will be "member's only".  Does this mean non-members can't ever use a "Mythic Rainbow item of Uber Magnitude"?  No - it does, however mean that it might take longer to find a non-members version (same exact stats) as the member's only item.  Regardless, neither purple nor rainbow items are required to succeed in the game.  Rainbows, especially, are essentially "vanity" items unless you're intent on PVPing against a talented and very well equipped opponent.  Regardless, Rainbows are incredibly easy to get (farming bosses, Rainbow Sam Vendor or Rainbow Sally vendor). If a non-member turns in King's coins to any of the KC vendors, they will receive a yellow, purple or rainbow item that is specifically usable for non-members.  KCs are very easy to accumulate through quests, therefore, it's very easy to acquire quality non-member gear by doing quests.
  • Non-member pots are indeed 10% weaker than member pots.  They're still very effective, however, considering that you can spam pots with no cooldowns.  I don't consider this to be particularly unfair, but that is definitely a matter of opinion.
  • Member's only server - this is completely voluntary.  Members aren't required to play on it.  In fact, most members don't.  I never play on the member's only server.  Also, there's absolutely no benefit to play on the member's only server.  Nothing is different other than the fact that you know all players on it are members.  Loot drops, experience, etc... are all exactly the same. Non-member loot still drops on the member's only server! It doesn't make the game p2p, it's just a benefit that member's receive for their subscription (a benefit that I personally see no reason to have).
• Graphics - I agree that neither the textures nor the geometry are anything to brag about.  From a technical perspective, the graphics in DR aren't that great. It would be nice if they were better (and they will be with the new engine), but they aren't bad enough for me to care.  As a counterpoint, the graphics in Mythos are significantly better from a technical perspective (shader technology, for example), but due to having to pan the camera so far out to play, they're almost completely wasted and serve only to lower fps, in my opinion. The "ooh, pretty shiny" is really only great if you're in the unplayable vanity mode.
• Ads - While I don't mind the ads and don't feel that they're intrusive  (except for getting delayed by a loading screen ad when you're died in a boss fight and want to jump back in - that is very, very irritating), I appreciate that you don't care for them.

Regarding the fairness of member benefits vs. non-member benefits, in general:  There is absolutely nothing in the overall DR PVE world that non-members can't do.  Non-members can kill every boss (except for one who's currently too powerful for even the majority of members - he's being fixed in this next patch), do every quest and succesfully run every single dungeon all the way to level 100.  In fact, there were level 100  (max level) non-members who attained that level well before non-members were able to even use yellow gear, much less purple or rainbows.  They did it using blue gear only. Prior to the implementation of ads, which gave non-members significantly more benefits than they had previously, my highest blue-using non-member was a level 40ish ranger who was stuck using a limited number of non-member potions because they didn't stack back then.  I, and those other players who reached level 100 as non-members, were able to succeed and have fun with those major limitations. This is why I take exception to new players who complain that non-members are gimped.

Thank you very much for taking the time to elaborate on your comments.  I really do appreciate them, as a fellow player, and I think that any new players checking out these threads will appreciate the diversity of opinions.

 ~Ripper

Kowboy_Kitty

I think that this is indeed a very fun game, especially if you're not willing to pay for membership. It actually reminds me of WoW, you know running through instances to gain loot and xp.It's pretty fun I would recommend it.

NCAnson

Originally posted by bragat

Well I played the game just to check if they removed those membership items, but I was wrong. I only had to play for a few minutes and noticed that weapon/equip drops for non members are too weak, while those which require membership are much stronger. The same about potions, non-members use weak potions while members use strong. Is this fair? If you say so, you are completely crazy, I'm sorry.

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And what about that server only for members? It makes that server a P2P.

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Regarding item drops - not every single item that drops is usable by free players, but there's a random chance every time a high-quality (unique or mythic) item drops that it will be usable by free players. If it's usable by free players, it will be identical in every other way to members-only items. There is an active market in the game for these items, so even what doesn't drop for you personally may be available. The only difference is really the potions, and we feel that's a smaller difference than you. shrug

As for the members-only server, in every other respect that server is identical to all the other servers. All characters are available on every server, so you don't lose access to your character when your membership subsides even if you previously played entirely on the members-only server.

We pay a lot of attention to feedback like yours, and we are constantly working to improve the game: for some people we're already there, for others like yourself I think we're getting there.