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Got to feed the horse eventually

you can only hold the carrot on the stick in front of the horse so long..



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Unfounded release dates have been spouted off a few times now I think we are to use what smarts we have to see that the next release date is no different.



They clearly don't have a great knowledge in

1) What problems exist

and/or

2) What problems they want fixed before launch

and/or

3) How long it will take to fix 2)



I suppose they could be holding the carrot close enough to make us follow long enough (i.e. they realized the release date was more than a year away, but knew people wouldn't continue following unless they said "7 months more", "5 months more", "2 months more", ).. but id rather not consider that too seriously because as you all know you can only hold the carrot on the stick in front of the horse so long..

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but on the plus side, this last delay inspired me to look for a different game and obsess over that while i wait (instead of just glooming or else inspiring the boards all the time - so be thankful)

Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.

Comments

  • singsofdeathsingsofdeath Member UncommonPosts: 1,812

    Hmmm...9 out of 10 for an original Title for the thread.

     

    Unfortunately, the contents are rather disappointing. Really, why do you start a new thread for this? There's about 6 or 7 threads out there with the same topic. *smirk*

     

    As for the carrot....Myeelf, I am ignoring it and happily doing other things while I wait till launch. At which time I will play the game and have fun (or not, but I don't hope that, ne? ^^).

  • NazarosNazaros Member Posts: 215

    Life is a big carrot on the stick.

    You want to get out of that pandora box? Just live each moment with what exist NOW, and stop waiting for a better future.

    My life is so much better now that i'm not waiting for anything, games included.

    What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...

  • eric_w66eric_w66 Member UncommonPosts: 1,006

    I take a longer view of these games as I've aged. All that matters to me is that the game is FUN to play when I buy it. When it comes out doesn't matter to me.

    Some people obsess over graphics and stuff like that. Not me. Make a good game in 4 color CGA mode and I'd play it. Heck, I love text based MUD's. I'm after the fun, not the "ooh ahh" factor of graphics (which wears off in about 5 minutes).

  • DremacDremac Member Posts: 187

    If the horse is so dumb that the only thing it's planning on eating is the carrot dangled in front of it's face it deserves to starve. Ignore the carrot and go feed yourself.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,095

    When it comes out, I'll play it.  If it sucks, I'll stop.  Simple as that.

     

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    Here's a classical whine-post I have problems with taking serious.

    " They clearly don't have a great knowledge in

    1) What problems exist

    and/or

    2) What problems they want fixed before launch

    and/or

    3) How long it will take to fix 2)"

    This post could've been constructive if you told us why you thought this was the problem and how you think they should fix it. As it stands now it's just a lot bullshit brought here to put AoC down. Are you here to spread negativity perhaps?

    Let me ask you 3 questions:

    1) What problems - in your opinion - exists?

    2) What problems do you think they should fix before launch?

    3) How long do you think it'll take to fix?

    If you can't answer those questions how can you say they don't know the answer to them? I think you're just here to troll, but of course feel free to prove me wrong.

  • SabradinSabradin Member Posts: 772

    Originally posted by howardb


    Here's a classical whine-post I have problems with taking serious.
    " They clearly don't have a great knowledge in

    1) What problems exist

    and/or

    2) What problems they want fixed before launch

    and/or

    3) How long it will take to fix 2)"
    This post could've been constructive if you told us why you thought this was the problem and how you think they should fix it. As it stands now it's just a lot bullshit brought here to put AoC down. Are you here to spread negativity perhaps?
    Let me ask you 3 questions:
    1) What problems - in your opinion - exists?
    2) What problems do you think they should fix before launch?
    3) How long do you think it'll take to fix?
    If you can't answer those questions how can you say they don't know the answer to them? I think you're just here to troll, but of course feel free to prove me wrong.
    No, those are the facts.  Either

    1) They don't have an exhaustive understanding of what problems exist

    2) They don't know what problems they want fixed before lanch

    3) They don't know how long it will actually take to fix 2)

    Those are the three possibilites for explaining why they continue to put new release dates out.

    The only other possible explanation is they do know how long it would take, they're just intentionally misleading us by saying "5months" or "2months" when they know its much longer.  But I don't really consider that, instead I think its a mixture of all three.

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    For your own reasons you want me to tell you what I think the problems actually are, but that wouldn't help explain the delays (since I don't have control over them).

    If I did have control over the delays, then what I thought the problems actually were would matter because that would directly effect how long I thought it would take to fix said problems.  But since I don't, you questions are moot.

    Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.

  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    You just wrote up a list of universal development problems for every game that has been made and will be made the next 50 years. It's like saying "the problem with water is that it's wet".

  • DremacDremac Member Posts: 187
    Originally posted by howardb


    You just wrote up a list of universal development problems for every game that has been made and will be made the next 50 years. It's like saying "the problem with water is that it's wet".

    Go back to Dirtcraft you n00b!

  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286
    Originally posted by Dremac

    Originally posted by howardb


    You just wrote up a list of universal development problems for every game that has been made and will be made the next 50 years. It's like saying "the problem with water is that it's wet".

    Go back to Dirtcraft you n00b!

    Ouch that hurts.. you even wrote noob like the WoW players do. I bow to you. I know when I've met superior intelligence.

  • GnazonGnazon Member Posts: 442


    Originally posted by Kyleran
    When it comes out, I'll play it. If it sucks, I'll stop. Simple as that.

    I am 100% behind that attitude and I only wish more people here on mmorpg.com would adapt it as well, rather then engage in flame wars. Cheers!

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  • markyturnipmarkyturnip Member UncommonPosts: 837
    Originally posted by singsofdeath


    Hmmm...9 out of 10 for an original Title for the thread.

    thoroughly agree...  great title. I withhold comment on the content.

  • Baio2kBaio2k Member UncommonPosts: 162
    Originally posted by Kyleran


    When it comes out, I'll play it.  If it sucks, I'll stop.  Simple as that.
     

    Oh My Gosh, me too!!!

  • AkkrobatAkkrobat Member Posts: 4

    The OP obviously hasn't seen the new video posted addressing the EXACT issues he is talking about.

     

    Idiot.

     

    www.youtube.com/watch

  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914

    Originally posted by Akkrobat


    The OP obviously hasn't seen the new video posted addressing the EXACT issues he is talking about.
     
    Idiot.
     
    www.youtube.com/watch


    Wow... that video really does shed light on the OP's concerns.

    "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."

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