Are you guys even paying attention to the stuff coming out about this game? This game is THE game we've all been waiting for. a Mature, deep, beautiful mmo. No of course it won't break WOW's subs records but I am certain that everyone over 18 who's moved on from wow will be getting into this game. and barring a botched extremely buggy launch or some other random happening this game looks to be a hands down winner. I mean, everything I've seen and read about the game is near perfect. Have you SEEN the SS's? And the fact that they are giving us a true action experience WITH the MMO and loot system us pack rat lewt whores love means to me, as long as they get the content and gameplay right I'm going in head first baby!
Whoa son, you've bought into the hype far too much and you are setting yourself up for a terrible letdown. AOC might be a good game and fun to play, but it won't be the 2nd coming as your post seems to indicate.
You misjudge the MMO world, WOW's player base isn't all children, in fact, a huge portion are 30 somethings that will never even consider playing AOC or WAR.
umm no, I have read everything I can about this game and from what it looks like it's shaping up to be wicked. and those 30-40 somthings can stay in wow for all I care. The people I want to game with are 20 somethings who have been playing games since they were 5 on thier ataris and know what gaming is about. Not some soccer mom and MS engineer who play cause they don't want to cook dinner or talk to thier disfunctional families.
They are not cool because they play wow and nothing else, they are the parents who make fun guilds boring by having a hissy when something not "family friendly" is said in guild chat, and to top it off they bring thier 8 and 9 yo's into the game and expect that the guild let them raid when they can't grasp even a small part of the gameplay... not to mention bringing the maturity level down.
they know nothing of anything other than maybe EQ1. Lame players, mediocre at best. The good ones will rise to the top and move over if it turns out to be the great game I'm expecting.
I know for a fact that wow has lost a huge portion of it's hardcore gamers. Not hardcore WOW gamers but 20 somethings who've been gaming from the womb. It's that large base of ex-wow players who will grasp onto this game and make it a contender. If the content and gameplay are as good as the graphics look, and if the twich combat works then people will notice. I mean, LOTRO got a good chunck of ex wow players but that game really doesn't scream cool... it's a little too fruity. AOC screams cool. Being the first mature MMORPG is a huge thing as well. We'll see content we have never even heard of in an MMO.
I mean come on! Nipples man! Nipples! Everything else is gravey!!!
and I'm not your son, jack.
The good thing about being 30+ is you realize that it isn't important to be "cool", or play something because its "cool", rather you enjoy things because you like them, and nothing else really matters. Maybe I'm just too old and have seen too many failures to share your unbridled enthusiasm for this or any other game for that matter. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Let's put this in Warhammer Online developer views. WoW is the Beatles. You can't beat the beatles. No one can beat the Beatles. But WAR (and in this case, AoC) is Led Zeppelin. There louder, cooler, and better. Oh, and they'll do amazingly well also.
Uuuggghh, how dare you compare WoW to the Beatles? Would have done better saying something like...
WoW is rap. That bad club rap that does nothing new, nothing for itself, but is cashing in on its mainstreamness.
AoC is like that new.... Rap/singing stuff that is pretty much the same crap, but with slightly more thought put into it.
And Darkfall is rock and roll revived :P
darkfalls more milli vanilli - looks real on the surface and gives fans what they want to see,but underneath its just miming along.
Well thats a lot of assumptions. 1: Your assuming it's gonna have really hefty requirements. The requirements are said to be around Oblivion and that the engine is very flexible and the game can be played on a variety of systems. Maybe 2 years ago not many systems were up to Oblivion, but today, many are. From all of the information I have gathered, that assumption is dead on. The average PC owner is still using chipset cards, most of which are on systems from early 2000. Those cards couldn't run oblivion if it wanted to. Matter of fact...it can't run Bards Tale. Those PC"s also have CPU speeds around the 2 mark. So if you assume the average joe has either that, or barely over it, you can assume the game will either not play for them or lag like hell. Lag = dead game in the water for an MMO. I realize that we all want to think that everyone is a major PC gamer...and all have thousand dollar machines. Most actual gamers have consoles...and the average american does not make tons of money. They are grunt factory wokers who barely make bills. The PC's they have are NOT up to snuff. That is the entire reason WoW has 10 mil subs to begin with. 2: Thats a great big assumption. WoW doesn't need to loose 90% of it's population for another MMOG to become the most played. That other MMOG just has to attract a very large non-MMOG playing audience (which WoW has done to great affect) and either bring in the vast majority of it's player base from outside the genre, or draw a lot of older MMOG players who are looking for something different. In the end I think Bioware is the company that will do that. I don't know if their MMOG will be more successful then WoWs, but it is extremely likely to pull folks from other genres into their game, and will hopefully be something a bit innovative and fresh to pull in the older MMOG gamers who are looking for something different. WoWs numbers may not even go down by much more then 1-5% for Biowares MMOG to surpass it. But of course... that in it self, is an assumption. As I said before...the average gamer is a console gamer. WoW didn't gain 10 million actual MMO gamers...it gained 10 million pop culture followers. While I'm sure these players WILL play other MMO's now, my point was that we can safely assume the current pool to be the near maximum player pool until PC tech becomes a lot cheaper. That said, in order to beat WoW a game will now have to steal its players. The reason the 90% figure is so important is that no MMO has ever lost more than 50% of its playerbase (except SWG, and they had to screw up reallllly bad). So, basic research suggests that Blizzard will likely not loose over half its subs ever. Even if it does...we can also safely assume that those players will be a mixed bag and will likely to go different games. Now...if Bioware makes a stellar MMO with a console tie in....I can see how they may topple the numbers. I notice so many people crying about using console tie ins...but at this point its the only way left to attract the rest of the gamer crowd. The PC gamer limit has nearly been reached.
Oh and I agree. The theme, lore, backstory, innovational design (which Funcom is rather known for) and great depth, should make it a fantastic MMOG, and a worthy alternative to the generic MMOGs out now (I'm talking to you WoW and LotRO!) and in the near future (*cough*WAR*cough*)
Not even close. The game is M rated, making it harder to buy. The graphics are 100000x better, making it harder to run. Its slightly more difficult, which is what turns off gamers. (Though, its still so easy a retarded monkey could do well in it). And as of now, its buggy and laggy as all hell. The only things that could kill WoW are bored (don't know why this hasn't happened yet) or if someone managed to make an even EASIER game than WoW. Maybe Pong the MMO?
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Whoa son, you've bought into the hype far too much and you are setting yourself up for a terrible letdown. AOC might be a good game and fun to play, but it won't be the 2nd coming as your post seems to indicate.
You misjudge the MMO world, WOW's player base isn't all children, in fact, a huge portion are 30 somethings that will never even consider playing AOC or WAR.
umm no, I have read everything I can about this game and from what it looks like it's shaping up to be wicked. and those 30-40 somthings can stay in wow for all I care. The people I want to game with are 20 somethings who have been playing games since they were 5 on thier ataris and know what gaming is about. Not some soccer mom and MS engineer who play cause they don't want to cook dinner or talk to thier disfunctional families.
They are not cool because they play wow and nothing else, they are the parents who make fun guilds boring by having a hissy when something not "family friendly" is said in guild chat, and to top it off they bring thier 8 and 9 yo's into the game and expect that the guild let them raid when they can't grasp even a small part of the gameplay... not to mention bringing the maturity level down.
they know nothing of anything other than maybe EQ1. Lame players, mediocre at best. The good ones will rise to the top and move over if it turns out to be the great game I'm expecting.
I know for a fact that wow has lost a huge portion of it's hardcore gamers. Not hardcore WOW gamers but 20 somethings who've been gaming from the womb. It's that large base of ex-wow players who will grasp onto this game and make it a contender. If the content and gameplay are as good as the graphics look, and if the twich combat works then people will notice. I mean, LOTRO got a good chunck of ex wow players but that game really doesn't scream cool... it's a little too fruity. AOC screams cool. Being the first mature MMORPG is a huge thing as well. We'll see content we have never even heard of in an MMO.
I mean come on! Nipples man! Nipples! Everything else is gravey!!!
and I'm not your son, jack.
The good thing about being 30+ is you realize that it isn't important to be "cool", or play something because its "cool", rather you enjoy things because you like them, and nothing else really matters. Maybe I'm just too old and have seen too many failures to share your unbridled enthusiasm for this or any other game for that matter. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
WoW is rap. That bad club rap that does nothing new, nothing for itself, but is cashing in on its mainstreamness.
AoC is like that new.... Rap/singing stuff that is pretty much the same crap, but with slightly more thought put into it.
And Darkfall is rock and roll revived :P
darkfalls more milli vanilli - looks real on the surface and gives fans what they want to see,but underneath its just miming along.
winner, best post of the day!