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anyone know if age of conan will work with the Intel integraded 950GM video cards with dx10. i'm am pretty sure their numerous games that don't right now. I have dx10 but can't use it on games like LOTR online, just something with the Intel chip; anyone know if it will be cool for age of conan?
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should be alright for the game:
256-bit graphics core running at 400MHz
Up to 10.6 GB/sec memory bandwidth with DDR2 667 system memory
1.6 GPixels/sec and 1.6 GTexels/sec fill rate
Up to 224 MB maximum video memory
similar to an ATI x1600 so not a power house but should be capable of running the game on med to low setting in my opinion. Its memory bandwidth is a bit on the low side. Probably better to run it in DX9 when you play Conan. Although the options are really scalable in every area in game.
DX 10 is only a year old and so far skimply supported by games due to support issues since you have to have Vista & a DX10 card in order to use it (and most users aren't in a hurry to change to Vista yet, fears over another ME plague and rightly so in my opinion have kept there from being a rush to Vista).
Lord of the Rings just released a DX 10 client if you can't run it you should talk to their tech support team to see what the problem is. Your Vista could be set up incorrectly or maybe there's an driver update your missing.
Age of Conan has for nearly a year now touted their DX10 / 9 client. They'll be the first MMO designed to work with DX10 and 9 (i dont count Lord of the Rings since it was a seperate client long after release, as in the game wasn't originally created to use DX10).
Unless a game is made with DX10 it'll never run DX10 (and the older the game the less chance of a new client being made) since DX10 is basically an entirely new graphics API (entirely new as in .. they redesigned the pipelines in a manner thats completely different from previous Windows & Direct X versions. I honestly think they redesigned the pipelines just to force you to Vista) instead of just an update.
I suspect for atleast another year maybe two you won't see too many games made for just DX10 or even DX10 usage at all (there are some and they look awsome in DX9 & 10 so its almost pointless to rush to Vista unless you have the cash to burn on hardware & the OS itself). I think once the first big Service Pack comes out (and it covers alot user complaints) we won't see overwhelming rushes to super support Vista.
Bah disregard most of my post *notices you said integrated* I suggest running DX9 just because anything Integrated means its Crap. Buy a real Video card if possible.
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That's Intel's newest mobile integrated graphics chipset? Good luck.
on edit:
opps, my mistake, that's the graphics core for the 945 series, somewhat better, but your not going to be at all pleased with the performance you'll get, regardless of which Directx used.
I have a high level of tech knowledge and if you get the game to run (which I doubt) it will look like crap and stutter.
Short answer: No.
EDIT: Only Nvidia and Ati cards are worth a damn for gaming, Intel is far from entering the gaming market with its integrated stuff.
there's no difference between dx9 and dx10
DX10 is more of a marketing trick to get people to buy vista.
thanks for all the advise, very much appreciated. (btw i have vista and plenty of a machine, i think i just got shafted on the graphics card)
However i am under the impression there is pretty much no way to upgrade a graphics card in a laptop. So the only solution would be to buy something brand new.
Would a new laptop to run this game prob cost 1,200 ish, or more on the lines of something above15k or 20k. Guessing it would have to have a Nvidia or ATI card for sure.
edit: haha yea i meant 1.5k or 2k
LOL 20k for a laptop. That's a good one.
You could probably get a gaming laptop that would run AoC on max settings from a custom build computer site for around $2,500-4,000.
Or you could buy a desktop with the same specs that you could upgrade later for around $1,000. And not have to worry about over-heating or any tiny laptop parts failing years before your desktop does.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
AoC on max settings, comfortably, for $2,500-$4,000? highly doubt it. maybe 4,000. maybe.
u can buy the worlds absolute gaming machine from falcon northwest for +-$17,000 (some of that money goes to the hand painting of your case tho) or alienware for +-$12,000. i like to window shop alot, and pretend i won the lotto....
i think the guy ment 1.5k and ....2.0k?
The games that have made some small use of it look much better for it. Look at the fur in Lost Planet with dx10 on an off. With dx10 it looks amazing. I can't wait to see a game with wolves and bears and whatever make use of this. It looks photorealistic.
Crysis with dx10. Amazing.
AoC has godrays.
Until we see a game designed from the ground up solely for dx10 we will not see the advantages of it.
DX10 is more of a marketing trick to get people to buy vista.
IDK about that, I can see a difference in games using dx9 to dx10. They may be little differences but those small things mean a lot to me. Plus im sure they havent used dx10 to its full potential yet.
DX10 is more of a marketing trick to get people to buy vista.
MM! actually there is quite a large difference in graphics quality between DX9 & DX10, below are some comparison pics from Crysis & AoC
http://www3.incrysis.com/screenshots/Island_HIGH_DX9.jpg
http://www3.incrysis.com/screenshots/Island_VERYHIGH_DX10.jpg
http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/ageofconan/Age+of+Conan/1/dx/070308_ageofconan_dx9_01.jpg
http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/ageofconan/Age+of+Conan/1/dx/070308_ageofconan_dx10_01.jpg
http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/ageofconan/Age+of+Conan/1/dx/070308_ageofconan_dx9_02.jpg
http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/ageofconan/Age+of+Conan/1/dx/070308_ageofconan_dx10_02.jpg
Just because Microsoft is trying to push Vista into people's throat by using direcX10 as a carrot, doesn't make directX10 a bad library set. It is definitely an upgrade for both ends of the gaming spectrum, gamers and developers.
Anyone has any doubt that directX10 would dominate the market at this point if the Vista requirement was not there? I'm pretty sure people would upgrade to it even if their graphics cards were not taking advantage of it.
DirectX 10 are great. The bundled deal with Vista is not.
You can run AoC on max with probably $1500-$2000 USD.
You can build that same computer you buy from Falcon Northwest for probably around $5,000-$6,000$, no, it won't cost you anywhere near $17K for that computer.
They build nice computers but their prices are totally horrible, way, way, way overpriced, your paying for the name.
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LOL, you obviously have no knowledge of computer hardware.You can run AoC on max with probably $1500-$2000 USD.
You can build that same computer you buy from Falcon Northwest for probably around $5,000-$6,000$, no, it won't cost you anywhere near $17K for that computer.
They build nice computers but their prices are totally horrible, way, way, way overpriced, your paying for the name.
To whozthisguy: I went to Falcon Northwest and put the best performance parts in a laptop and it only came to about $5,000 so where you're getting this $12-17k I'm not sure.
To bluealien1: You can build a laptop from scratch that's going to run AoC at max settings for $2k? I would really like to see what distributor you are going to for the parts. The screen, case, and motherboard alone are going to cost you about that much. Laptop parts are super expensive when you buy them retail. If you meant a $2k desktop, then ya, I would agree with you, but the OP was looking for a laptop.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Seriously people. The OP just forgot to put a dot. He has already edited his mistake, thus there is no point in arguing this.
Sadly dx10 is being talked about as a past product. Rumors are going around that dx11 is already in development. Something to do with the dx10 debacle of dx10 and 10.1. Also note that windows 7 which is the new OS from microsoft is already in the works. Websites state that the new windows 7 will be built from the ground up. Eliminating the old library system XP and Vista run. I would post a few links but its late and im tired. AoC will be fine on your current system, mines about the same PC wise. Nite!
Thats total misinformation mackdawg19. Windows 7 will be based on Vista driver model thus DX11 will be working with Vista. Major reason why DX10 doesn't work on XP is changes in driver model. Microsoft has already annouced that Windows 7 won't be such a radical change as Vista was in terms of changes(it will be like XP was to 2000).
For original poster, 950GM doesn't support DX10. http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/index.htm
You can run AoC on max with probably $1500-$2000 USD.
You can build that same computer you buy from Falcon Northwest for probably around $5,000-$6,000$, no, it won't cost you anywhere near $17K for that computer.
They build nice computers but their prices are totally horrible, way, way, way overpriced, your paying for the name.
actually your all wrong...you can build a rig for around $800 that can run aoc nicely on max settings....just have to go cheap on the motherboard...ram...case and powersuply ...
I think maybe you didn't read our posts correctly. We realized he made a mistake. We were trying to help him get an accurate price range for a gaming laptop that would run AoC at max settings. No one was arguing about the OP's mistake.
Housam: You can build an $800 laptop that's going to run AoC at max settings? I would like to see proof of that. I'll say it again, the OP is looking for a laptop, not a desktop. Although I have serious doubts that you could build an $800 desktop that could run AoC at max as well, but that's not the point.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."