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  • MandarrMandarr Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 300

     

    Originally posted by ste2000

    Originally posted by Mandarr


    Although I've always called the police "sir" so I wouldn't get into anymore trouble than I'm alrady in.  (getting speeding tickets and such lol)  Some people are just used to saying "dude" or "man" to the point where it's basicaly their limited vocabulary and so they don't really mean to offend anyone by calling them those names.  This cop went too far, but he doesn't need to be suspended or lose his job for arguing with a kid.  That'd be silly. 
    Police may deserve some respect, but they can't force respect.



    I call police officers "mate".............but not when I get caught doing something that I shouldn't, that's the point.

    That kid has been told before not to skate, and he kept doing it.

    Once you behave like a tard, forget about calling a policemen dude or mate.



    Also, where is the violence in there, for christ sake.

    If a Police man tell you to do something you do it, end of.

    No provoking and no dudes.

    Please give a medal to that fat bastard

    Of course when an officer tells you to do something you'd best do it right then and there, but calling the guy a "dude" wasn't meant as disrespect from the kids point of view.  It's just his way, his vocabulary.  If I was the officer (which I'm not because I don't have the cajones to be one) I wouldn't have been offended by the kid calling me a "dude".  That's just silly.  I didn't watch the video.  I'd seen some of it on the FOX news station.  So I didn't know the kids had already been warned not to skateboard there. 

     

    That still doesn't make it right for the police to demand respect from the kid.  They shouldn't have kept on skateboarding there after being told to go away, but calling the officer a "dude" wasn't offensive.

     

    *Edit*  Calling an officer "mate" wouldn't be offensive either in my oppinion.  Hell they are only people.  They aren't gods.  Sure they deserve our respect for doing a job which is pretty touigh to do, but as long as people aren't calling them offensive names then they should'nt be overresacting like this.

    This website is a safe haven for trolls and haters. I'm done with this pathetic site.

  • Shifty360Shifty360 Member Posts: 629

    Originally posted by ste2000


    Please give a medal to that fat bastard

    Lawl

  • Shifty360Shifty360 Member Posts: 629

     

    Originally posted by Mandarr


     
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Originally posted by Mandarr


    Although I've always called the police "sir" so I wouldn't get into anymore trouble than I'm alrady in.  (getting speeding tickets and such lol)  Some people are just used to saying "dude" or "man" to the point where it's basicaly their limited vocabulary and so they don't really mean to offend anyone by calling them those names.  This cop went too far, but he doesn't need to be suspended or lose his job for arguing with a kid.  That'd be silly. 
    Police may deserve some respect, but they can't force respect.



    I call police officers "mate".............but not when I get caught doing something that I shouldn't, that's the point.

    That kid has been told before not to skate, and he kept doing it.

    Once you behave like a tard, forget about calling a policemen dude or mate.



    Also, where is the violence in there, for christ sake.

    If a Police man tell you to do something you do it, end of.

    No provoking and no dudes.

    Please give a medal to that fat bastard

    Of course when an officer tells you to do something you'd best do it right then and there, but calling the guy a "dude" wasn't meant as disrespect from the kids point of view.  It's just his way, his vocabulary.  If I was the officer (which I'm not because I don't have the cajones to be one) I wouldn't have been offended by the kid calling me a "dude".  That's just silly.  I didn't watch the video.  I'd seen some of it on the FOX news station.  So I didn't know the kids had already been warned not to skateboard there. 

     

    That still doesn't make it right for the police to demand respect from the kid.  They shouldn't have kept on skateboarding there after being told to go away, but calling the officer a "dude" wasn't offensive.

     

    *Edit*  Calling an officer "mate" wouldn't be offensive either in my oppinion.  Hell they are only people.  They aren't gods.  Sure they deserve our respect for doing a job which is pretty touigh to do, but as long as people aren't calling them offensive names then they should'nt be overresacting like this.

     

    Upon being told he could not skate there he replied "I couldn't hear you dude."

    After that he is just simply being a smart ass. 

    I am relatively sure that is what the officer was upset about.

     

    EDIT: His friends also chime in, "Dude <skatername>, just shutup dude."

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by Mandarr
    That still doesn't make it right for the police to demand respect from the kid.  They shouldn't have kept on skateboarding there after being told to go away, but calling the officer a "dude" wasn't offensive.



    Ah ok..........so fuck the fact that the kid has willingly disregarded the police officer advise not to skate there.

    Just a small detail after all.



    I think you missed that point that the kid wasn't in any position to answer back the officer in the first place, since he didn't stop skating after a warning, let alone addressing him with a "dude" just to top it up.



    Stop justifing the kid behaviour, he was plain wrong and he deserved what he got, he went home with his own legs, that's good enough for me.

  • Let's look at it pragmatically. What do you think will happen now, in the psyche of that kid? It's very likely he now has a burning hatred of police and authority in general. Maybe he'll never skateboard there again, maybe he'll do something worse.



    I think we're overlooking the fact that police are indeed trained to handle situations just like this, and that this response would not be acceptable in any kind of training scenario. Now, maybe some of you have had irritating experiences with mouthy brats, and cannot sympathize with the child, and can very much sympathize with the officer. That is irrelevant. If it were a private citizen, the owner of the property, this kind of tirade would be perfectly acceptable. But it wasn't. This was a trained police officer, showing a severe lack of discipline, and going very much against his training.

  • MandarrMandarr Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 300
    Originally posted by ste2000

    Originally posted by Mandarr
    That still doesn't make it right for the police to demand respect from the kid.  They shouldn't have kept on skateboarding there after being told to go away, but calling the officer a "dude" wasn't offensive.



    Ah ok..........so fuck the fact that the kid has willingly disregarded the police officer advise not to skate there.

    Just a small detail after all.



    I think you missed that point that the kid wasn't in any position to answer back the officer in the first place, since he didn't stop skating after a warning, let alone addressing him with a "dude" just to top it up.



    Stop justifing the kid behaviour, he was plain wrong and he deserved what he got, he went home with his own legs, that's good enough for me.



    I never said the kid wasn't wrong for skating after being told he couldn't skate there.  What I did say though was the cop got a little too upset just because the kid was calling him "dude".

    This website is a safe haven for trolls and haters. I'm done with this pathetic site.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by Mandarr

    Originally posted by ste2000

    Originally posted by Mandarr
    That still doesn't make it right for the police to demand respect from the kid.  They shouldn't have kept on skateboarding there after being told to go away, but calling the officer a "dude" wasn't offensive.



    Ah ok..........so fuck the fact that the kid has willingly disregarded the police officer advise not to skate there.

    Just a small detail after all.



    I think you missed that point that the kid wasn't in any position to answer back the officer in the first place, since he didn't stop skating after a warning, let alone addressing him with a "dude" just to top it up.



    Stop justifing the kid behaviour, he was plain wrong and he deserved what he got, he went home with his own legs, that's good enough for me.



    I never said the kid wasn't wrong for skating after being told he couldn't skate there.  What I did say though was the cop got a little too upset just because the kid was calling him "dude".



    No the cop, was upset because the kid ignored his warning not to skate there, the "dude" was the final straw.



    If he had hurt the kid I would have agreed with you, I am against police officers in permanent power trips (and there are many), but that ain't the case.

    He dealt like a father should deal with unruling kids, except some fathers are too shy to behave that way....that's why some kids behave like the only cock in the roost.

  • MandarrMandarr Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 300

    Originally posted by ste2000

    Originally posted by Mandarr

    Originally posted by ste2000

    Originally posted by Mandarr
    That still doesn't make it right for the police to demand respect from the kid.  They shouldn't have kept on skateboarding there after being told to go away, but calling the officer a "dude" wasn't offensive.



    Ah ok..........so fuck the fact that the kid has willingly disregarded the police officer advise not to skate there.

    Just a small detail after all.



    I think you missed that point that the kid wasn't in any position to answer back the officer in the first place, since he didn't stop skating after a warning, let alone addressing him with a "dude" just to top it up.



    Stop justifing the kid behaviour, he was plain wrong and he deserved what he got, he went home with his own legs, that's good enough for me.



    I never said the kid wasn't wrong for skating after being told he couldn't skate there.  What I did say though was the cop got a little too upset just because the kid was calling him "dude".



    No the cop, was upset because the kid ignored his warning not to skate there, the "dude" was the final straw.



    If he had hurt the kid I would have agreed with you, I am against police officers in permanent power trips (and there are many), but that ain't the case.

    He dealt like a father should deal with unruling kids, except some fathers are too shy to behave that way....that's why some kids behave like the only cock in the roost.


    I just watched the video and I have to say if you agree with the cop you're entitled to your oppinion, but the facts are the cop overreacted.  The kid said he couldn't hear him and perhaps that is not true and the kid was being a smartass, but that still doesn't give the cop the right to go off on him like he did.  Maybe the kid really doesn't have a father did you ever think of that?  Maybe the kid wasn't trying to be a smartass at all, but the cop just took it as disrespect and his bigest problem with the kid was the fact he kept calling him dude.  That's just plain silly.  The cop needs some anger management classes on how to deal with the public. 

    I feel the cop did wrong, you feel he didn't.  We both are right in that it's our own oppinion of what happend. 

    This website is a safe haven for trolls and haters. I'm done with this pathetic site.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by paulscott


    insufficent information.



    Pretty much.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811

    That guy does exactly what an officer shouldn't do.

  • RittoRitto Member Posts: 191

    Wow.... for once im glad to live in england, The police are not like that over where I live, alough the downside is the Police where I live dont really do there job properly (My town has alot of drug problems, and problems with vandalism.)

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  • NetzokoNetzoko Member Posts: 1,271

    How can anyone agree with that meter-maid??!

    Since when are "police" allowed to throw a kid on the ground and take their property? Personal insults to a 14 year old? The kid has the right to address him how he wants, the cop reminded be of a rapist getting angry because his victim won't call him daddy.

    This guy is on an absolute power-trip and stepped out of bounds enough to be fired and criminally charged.

    "You give that attitude me to me I'll slap you upside the head"

     

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  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,698

    I'm confused:  why does nobody here seem to think that the officer is out of line?  The officer makes threats of violence against a 14 year old, then assaults him.  That is enough to get suspended, and I hope this makes the news within the week.  If I were that kid, or his mother (since apparently he doesn't have a father), and I had a bruise on my body from that, I'd sue the officer to hell.

  • oncelovingonceloving Member Posts: 106

    Let's assume that this forum is somewhat representative of the population for this post.

     

    Does it scare the hell out of anyone else that half of these people think the type of action the police offer took was justified and the right thing to do?  I sure don't want to live in a place where if a kid exercises his freedom of speech (in a very far from in your face provocative manner at that) and a cop feels it is disrespectful then it is alright for him to rough the kid up a little and verbally assault him.  As far as I know, it is not a crime to disrespect a police officer in the manner that kid allegedly  did. 

  • Ghost12Ghost12 Member Posts: 684

     

    Originally posted by onceloving


    Let's assume that this forum is somewhat representative of the population for this post.
     
    Does it scare the hell out of anyone else that half of these people think the type of action the police offer took was justified and the right thing to do?  I sure don't want to live in a place where if a kid exercises his freedom of speech (in a very far from in your face provocative manner at that) and a cop feels it is disrespectful then it is alright for him to rough the kid up a little and verbally assault him.  As far as I know, it is not a crime to disrespect a police officer in the manner that kid allegedly  did. 

     

    Eh. Its hard to say who was in the wrong and in the right. Watching it for the first time you get the impression that the cop was totally out of line, but watching it a second and third time I can understand why he flipped like that. Both sides were in the wrong - the police officer was taking out something on the kids, whether it was anger, frustration, regret - some emotion on the kids that should not have been there. The manhandling of the boy was also totally out of line as well, and I have never seen a police officer do something like that before. Its violent and troubling. This police officer seemed to have forgotten that he was dealing with young teenage boys. These kids  have done nothing really wrong here and getting aggressive with them like this is uncalled for, let alone unprofessional. The primary job of a police officer, is to protect and serve, not to bully little kids. This cop instilled fear into the child, which is the exact opposite of what he really should be doing. Very sad.

    On the other flip side, the kid was giving some lip to the officer, and he kinda reminds you of the kid who sits in his seat in school giving snide, little quick disrespectful remarks to the teacher and sets them off. The kid may have deserved a beating, but thats his father's job, and his job only. The best thing the police officer could do was to take the skateboard away  - ask for it - dont take it and tackle him - and call his mother. However, with all the real crime in the Baltimore area, its sickening to see a cop harass a group of teenagers when he could be doing some real good cleaning up the darker parts of the city.

    What the officer should of done was speak calmly with the boy with an air of authority, but not set off his temper. It is his duty to set an example to the kid and if he gives the kid respect he has more of a chance to receive respect in return. I have been apprehended by officers before when I was younger, and when they treated me with respect, spoke kindly to me I tended to listen to what they had to say and obey the rules. You remember the old saying, you get more with honey than you do with vinegar? That cop should memorize that saying.

     

     

  • NetzokoNetzoko Member Posts: 1,271

    Originally posted by Ghost12


     
    On the other flip side, the kid was giving some lip to the officer,
     

    Where was this? I didn't see anything remotely close to "lip." The kid stated he did nothing wrong, and seemed a little confused by the cop's "orders." How is that lip?

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  • deadlydog5deadlydog5 Member Posts: 95

    that just shows america is going straight to hell....

    Heroes are born but legends never die

  • Ghost12Ghost12 Member Posts: 684

     

    Originally posted by Netzoko


     
    Originally posted by Ghost12


     
    On the other flip side, the kid was giving some lip to the officer,
     

     

    Where was this? I didn't see anything remotely close to "lip." The kid stated he did nothing wrong, and seemed a little confused by the cop's "orders." How is that lip?

     

    If you listen closely a couple of times you'll see in his tone of voice that he was giving the officer an attitude. Calling the officer "dude" and talking to him in a way that he would be on a friendly, personal relationship is enough to call it lip (I also believe he told him not to call him dude and he did anyway?). The officer expects the same respect and humbleness that you would give to your parents, teachers etc.

    And I wouldnt really think that it was all that confusing when your told to "not skate in the area" I would think that would be direct enough for the average human being with knowledge of language.

     

  • oncelovingonceloving Member Posts: 106

     

    Originally posted by Ghost12


     
    Originally posted by Netzoko


     
    Originally posted by Ghost12


     
    On the other flip side, the kid was giving some lip to the officer,
     

     

    Where was this? I didn't see anything remotely close to "lip." The kid stated he did nothing wrong, and seemed a little confused by the cop's "orders." How is that lip?

     

    If you listen closely a couple of times you'll see in his tone of voice that he was giving the officer an attitude. Calling the officer "dude" and talking to him in a way that he would be on a friendly, personal relationship is enough to call it lip (I also believe he told him not to call him dude and he did anyway?). The officer expects the same respect and humbleness that you would give to your parents, teachers etc.

    And I wouldnt really think that it was all that confusing when your told to "not skate in the area" I would think that would be direct enough for the average human being with knowledge of language.

     

    How dare he talk to the police officer like he was "in a friendly, personal relationship" with the officer.....

     

     

     You may believe in this class system where a young person is inferior to older people but I do not.  Just a thought I had, if you pictured the skater kids as black then this would be a hate crime.

     

     

  • Ghost12Ghost12 Member Posts: 684

    Originally posted by onceloving


     
    Originally posted by Ghost12


     
    Originally posted by Netzoko


     
    Originally posted by Ghost12


     
    On the other flip side, the kid was giving some lip to the officer,
     

     

    Where was this? I didn't see anything remotely close to "lip." The kid stated he did nothing wrong, and seemed a little confused by the cop's "orders." How is that lip?

     

    If you listen closely a couple of times you'll see in his tone of voice that he was giving the officer an attitude. Calling the officer "dude" and talking to him in a way that he would be on a friendly, personal relationship is enough to call it lip (I also believe he told him not to call him dude and he did anyway?). The officer expects the same respect and humbleness that you would give to your parents, teachers etc.

    And I wouldnt really think that it was all that confusing when your told to "not skate in the area" I would think that would be direct enough for the average human being with knowledge of language.

     

    How dare he talk to the police officer like he was "in a friendly, personal relationship" with the officer.....

     

     

     You may believe in this class system where a young person is inferior to older people but I do not.  Just a thought I had, if you pictured the skater kids as black then this would be a hate crime.

     

     

    I am sure you would not like it if you were putting yourself in danger 24/7 and having some kid mouth to you like you were his friend. You would not, would not appreciate it one bit. There is a certain amount of respect you should give to a police officer, and that is amplified even more when  you are a minor. When the kid speaks to the police officer like he is his friend, that puts the officer on his level, when the officer is really a step above him, and helps to blur social rankings.

  • SithosSithos Member UncommonPosts: 315

    That isn't the entire video. I'm sure before it was tossed up on you tube it was "fixed"

    Plain and simple the kid was told to not skateboard there, he played dumb and continued to skateboard, maybe to stick it to the man or impress his buddies or both. He paid the price for his arrogance. Maybe if his parents had raised him better this wouldn't have happened.

     

  • NetzokoNetzoko Member Posts: 1,271

    Originally posted by Sithos


    That isn't the entire video. I'm sure before it was tossed up on you tube it was "fixed"
    Plain and simple the kid was told to not skateboard there, he played dumb and continued to skateboard, maybe to stick it to the man or impress his buddies or both. He paid the price for his arrogance. Maybe if his parents had raised him better this wouldn't have happened.
     

    Just because the video may be longer doesn't mean you can assume the kid did that. Take what's given and don't jump to stupid conclusions like "blame the parents."

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  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111
    Originally posted by Netzoko


     
    Originally posted by Sithos


    That isn't the entire video. I'm sure before it was tossed up on you tube it was "fixed"
    Plain and simple the kid was told to not skateboard there, he played dumb and continued to skateboard, maybe to stick it to the man or impress his buddies or both. He paid the price for his arrogance. Maybe if his parents had raised him better this wouldn't have happened.
     

     

    Just because the video may be longer doesn't mean you can assume the kid did that. Take what's given and don't jump to stupid conclusions like "blame the parents."

    I blame video games, clearly they have influenced this kid in a negative way.

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  • rovorovo Member Posts: 20

    good laugh. I bet he was just trying to get the kid to do something he was gonna regret. Fat dude wanted to hit som1, yep I said dude.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    Originally posted by Shifty360


    That was definately not overreacting. Bravo to that officer for getting things done.
    While he was relatively harsh, the skater was being disrespectful, and needed to be put in his place.
    I doubt they will have another disagreement the next time the officer says "You cannot skate here."
     
    A 250lb officer threatens a 14 year old 90lb boy and then throws him on the ground isn't over reacting?  All this for calling the officer "dude".  The cop should have just arrested him as it is his job to do.  Cops are not payed to threaten my children with violence and then beat them into good behavior.  That is my job 

     

    I can only imagine what officer angry would do to someone who really gave him some backtalk, like calling him fat or a pig.  Perhaps they would just get an arm ripped off and heaven help someone who actually curses at officer I deserve respect or I will kick you ass.  He is just a bully with a badge.  What do you think he is capable of doing to someone that could honestly put up a real challenge to his authority?

     

    The actions of that cop are a giant flashing red flag warning of a cop out of control.  This is the same kind of cop that you hear about years later shoving a plunger up a suspects rectum or something similar.  Most likely the same people who are cheering on his actions here would be the same people to cry about how he didn't get pulled off the streets early after what he did to some skateboard child years before.

     

    Sure that smart mouthed kid is going to say to much to the wrong person some day and get a beat down for it, but it should never be at the hands of someone empowered to enforce the law. 

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