Former WoW player and still pretty new to MMOs...

Master_Razor

So, the only real MMORPG I've played has been World of Warcraft. I've also played Phantasy Star Online, although I've only played it offline (ironic I know). I came to this site in search of a new game.

I'm extremely picky about video games...and everything else, but anyway, I have a certain criteria for games I plan on playing.

I don't like games that involve hours of farming. In WoW you had to farm, a lot. If you wanted to get anywhere, you had to farm. I don't think farming is fun, if I'm not having fun playing a game, I simply won't play.

I want to enjoy the leveling process. In WoW and a few other rpgs I could mention...leveling was an extremely repetitive and monotonous task. If the end-game is the only fun part of the game, I'm not gonna take the time to get there. Though I do certainly want a game with interesting content in the end-game.

I hate playing by myself. Yet I almost always wind up doing so in most games I play. I want a game that encourages team work, not one where I have to spend an hour trying to assemble a rag-tag team of random people I've never met.

I've played some games with good story lines and intriguing lore, so I probably wouldn't like a game that didn't have either of these. That's one of the major reasons I play rpgs.

I'd be willing to pay a subscription fee for a game, so long as I had enough fun playing it. Otherwise, I'm not gonna pay a cent.

If possible, I'd like to play a game during beta. If not I'd like to play early on in the life of the game, it makes it that much harder to build up a new group that will reach the end-game.

So... If there is a game that meets these requirements, then I would absolutely love to try it out. If not, I'll keep working on my own game.

Greatness

Try Lord of the Rings Online, it just released a bit ago and I hear there are still many that are joining.

Kyleran

Originally posted by Master_Razor

I don't like games that involve hours of farming. In WoW you had to farm, a lot. If you wanted to get anywhere, you had to farm. I don't think farming is fun, if I'm not having fun playing a game, I simply won't play. - Here's the bad news, WOW actually is considered one of the games with less farming than some of the older classic games had.  Farming money, materials etc is a mainstay of the genre I'm afraid.

I want to enjoy the leveling process. In WoW and a few other rpgs I could mention...leveling was an extremely repetitive and monotonous task. If the end-game is the only fun part of the game, I'm not gonna take the time to get there. Though I do certainly want a game with interesting content in the end-game. - Again, more bad news, many of us MMORPG vets think WOW's leveling process was too quick and easy, and few really describe it as painful, just not deep enough.

I hate playing by myself. Yet I almost always wind up doing so in most games I play. I want a game that encourages team work, not one where I have to spend an hour trying to assemble a rag-tag team of random people I've never met. - You are in the minority I'm afraid.  Back in the day many games almost required people to group up, (still took an hour sometimes to assemble the team I'm afraid) but now days players insist that they be able to solo almost the entire game, and developers have been accomodating their wishes.  You really want to group, consider FFXI.

I've played some games with good story lines and intriguing lore, so I probably wouldn't like a game that didn't have either of these. That's one of the major reasons I play rpgs. - The upcoming Bioware MMORPG might have what you are looking for, and many current games have a decent lore. (LotRO of course being one of them)

If possible, I'd like to play a game during beta. If not I'd like to play early on in the life of the game, it makes it that much harder to build up a new group that will reach the end-game.  You might be able to get in on AOC and WAR in the next few months, both are due to release.

So... If there is a game that meets these requirements, then I would absolutely love to try it out. If not, I'll keep working on my own game.  - Actually, I don't think what you want currently exists.  Welcome to the club.

 

Meltdown

I would have to agree with Kyler on the points he made. Although for a new MMO-player I don't know how friendly a game like FFXI would be after playing WoW. It is MUCH more group-centric, but has an extremely limited ability to solo, harsh death penalties and it feels much more like a grind than WoW.

Sadly there is no good answer out there.  I would check out a lot of the F2P games (there is a list over in the general discussion - Pub area) and see what you like and what you don't like. Checking out games while they are in Beta can be disillusioning, especially with how critical a lot of the Beta players will be.

But yea, welcome to our world. We're all hooked on a drug we can't even find.

Master_Razor

I figured as much.

I don't mind some farming as long as I don't have to do it for hours on end just to feel like I have anything. I don't mind grinding however, especially if it's an interesting grind.

I don't need an easy game, I know WoW was easy and simple compared to most other MMOs (which kind of scares me) but that doesn't mean I'm not up for a challenge.

From what I've read, Lineage II sounds like a great game and I think I'll want to try that one out. I don't really want to play LOTRO because I don't like games based off of other things like movies, books, etc.

When I played WoW, I wanted to be like the high end raid guilds that took down big bad bosses one after another. The idea of getting together with a group of people and accomplishing a common goal like killing a boss just seems like the coolest thing ever. I didn't get to be a part of that, I was in a social guild that couldn't even get through the low-end raids. In that game I had to farm money and materials and then grind instances for gear so that I could try and get into a raiding guild, but I always felt like I was going no where. My guild wasn't organized enough to do 5-man dungeons so I had to PuG from day one.

Well, my search continues.

Kilmar

Indeed there is alot of farming in wow, but wowers usually disavow that. First you have to grind faction and money to farm then armor, to farm then faction to farm better armor

slask777

Raiding aint what it made up to be. The raids are cool the first few times you do them, but consider the wow method of it. You have to raid this dungeon to proceed to the next. Then consider that you need to equip alot of people(minimum 25 if they all are dedicated raiders, often the double to make sure the guild raid at a regular basis). To do that you have to raid the same dungeon ALOT of times, and then some. How bored do you think you would be when you have to do the same dungeon some 100'ish times in a row to equip everyone? I know I was.

That was what made me quit WoW. I was so bloody tired of killing the same raidbosses over and over and over, again and again and again ad infinitum. Obviously some people like it, but I think the raid crowd are a minority in WoW, especially when the pvp arena gear is comparable, and sometimes better, to raid epics.

So now I am, like you, in a limbo waiting for something interesting to break the surface. War and AOC look promising though.

Meltdown

Actually from what you said in your second post maybe you should check out DDO (Dungeons and Dragons Online). I don't know if they have a trial or something so you can try it, but its one of the few game I've played  that really brought people together. I don't know much about their endgame and raiding but it was tons of fun when I first played on release.

There is a slight learning curve to understand the D20 system, but I'm sure the community would help you out.

Master_Razor

Yeah, but I promised myself and others that I would never play D&D

Meltdown

Originally posted by Master_Razor


Yeah, but I promised myself and others that I would never play D&D

But it likes the taste of souls so much.