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Wheres the next New PvE based game!
Kidas
Member Posts: 12
Where are all the PvE games in developement? Every decent looking game seems to focus around PvP. I don't see why the gaming industry doesn't see the short life-spans of purely PvP based MMORPGs. The reason games like Everquest and World of Warcraft last for so long is because they have Raiding to look forward to once you get your max level and awesome gear. Most people need a reason other then killing the same people over and over again who just scale up the gear to enjoy and keep playing a game.
I know i'm biased and pretty care-bear to most of you crazy hardcore PvPers but I just love raiding and want something to choose from other then the current PvE based games out there.
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I dont like raiding
I dont like PVP
but I still look forward to games like AOC, WAR, and others
EQ2 fan sites
I wouldn't say AoC is so much PvP based. It is alot guild based n such. But there still appears plenty for the PvEer to do. I think AoC has a nice balance of the two. Besides really there have been so few PvP based games that have come out over the past few years...everything is PvE. Perhaps you will have to wait a while for the PvE to come back as the PvPers have waited for a PvP game
I hate raiding, I hate games that cause you to rely in big guilds (cough cough raid games) and I'm not all that big on PvP without a purpose (arenas). I especially hate when games focus soly on end game, where all the most epic stuff is all at end game.
I'm all for games with a good mix of PvE / RvR (a type of PvP) where you dont have to rely on either one in order to progress and you dont have to rely on big guilds to enjoy end game. WAR is perfect for me in that respect, plus the idea that you can enjoy every aspect of the game right from level 1 instead of having to wait till end game is a huge thing for me.
There are alot of people that like guilds & raids, PvE, and a more hard core version of PvP (arenaless for the win!)... Age of Conan is perfect for those people. (imo)
Then there's the I just want pve, raids, guilds, and a game where everything is all about endgame only and screw PvP period...those people have Lord of the Rings, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, & Vanguard.
There's more than enough games that offer PvE why do they need to be solid PvE games with everything tacted on at the end like WoW? They don't. People just dismiss anything they don't understand because and I hate to say it....because they're new to the world of MMOs or extremely close minded. It was the diversity of MMOs that kept communities happy, there was none of this "i hate this game i only play it because its the only one that offers close to what im looking for" attitude.
Everyone being stuck with only one type of game the last few years has caused all this chaotic hatred where people are stuck playing games because there is nothing else or stuck without a game period. I'm hopeful these days are finally over and we keep on seeing games with diverse ways to play offered instead of...the dreads of pure PvE evils.
Age of Conan & WAR for the win!
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AoC is just gonna be another Turbine flop :P, and there have been just as many PvP games as PvE games, they just weren't worth playing =P. Which is what i think might happen with WAR and Darkfall and the many others coming out. I just want a game with an emersing story and graphics with awesome raiding. Since EQ, no game has came up with that, even though their raid system was very mind numbing the areas and monsters were just so grandiose that many people didnt care.
Sorceress of TaurGwaith
From what I've seen of WAR it is basically just four huge Battlegrounds, and like SB just PvE there so you have something to do when your not killing other players. Theres not really a story other then, ITS ALL OUT WAR, WAR, WAR thats going to get boring after awhile. AoC just doesn't look promising at all unless you are really into all the Connan stuff or naked women.
Sorceress of TaurGwaith
AION and Ragnarok 2 are the big PVE games in development.
Whats the problem? You can still raid, but instead of raiding instances with huge dumb monsters, you can raid towns full of intelligent players. It'll be much more of a challenge, and thus much more fun.
in Aion PvP will control what MOBs do, but there will be plenty of raids to mess with I'm sure(even if they aren't the dance that you'd see in a WoW raid).
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
And after doing that a few hundred times, it will get old like raid instances do. You cant patch players and make them totally new and interesting.
Sorceress of TaurGwaith
Every foreign based MMORPG just doesn't have the emmersion quality of the US based games to me. Which i believe is just a cultural gap that cant really be changed by translation.
Sorceress of TaurGwaith
And after doing that a few hundred times, it will get old like raid instances do. You cant patch players and make them totally new and interesting.
Yes you can.You just give them new equipment, tools, and abilities to pvp with.
And after doing that a few hundred times, it will get old like raid instances do. You cant patch players and make them totally new and interesting.
Yes you can.You just give them new equipment, tools, and abilities to pvp with.
Im not gonna argue the inherent short falls of purely pvp based games nemore :P, just wait and see what happens with war and darkfall after a year.
Sorceress of TaurGwaith
What
she meant Funcom in her assessment
but basically, shes referencing Anarchy Online
EQ2 fan sites
You cant go bashing a PvP game saying you kill the same people over and over again when you don't even realize that PvE is even worse, but with mindless AI. Need I explain more?
OP: I would say, WAR and AoC. RvR is not PvP, AoC doesn't look like a PvP based game to me, but rather a 'normal' PvE title with some intertwined PvP elements.
I'm having a blast in World of Kung Fu I wouldnt say its PvE or all PvP. More of a happi mix. Its a team based game as well as the jobs and rolls, also includes an almost great crafting system (hard to level it). Great GM and GS support, Dev interaction and much more. Still in CB2 currently but worth the attention of most people.
If you dont know how to team or think u've never played an MMO like this, you might want to brush up on what it is or far warning, you'll level up very slow if at all. Most of the stronger jobs HAVE to party. No questions asked. Spears are the weakest class IMO but they level the quickest but at a cost of some real endgame fun.
TR is another PvE game thats fun, simple IMO(at the moment anyway) but fun.
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It would seem to me that there are more then enough of those types of game out there, just get a station pass and you can raid forever or sub to WoW, the king of raid games. You can really do that sort of thing in any MMO, I don't know of to many that don't have that mechanic.
The sooner devs give up on that silly raid mechanic the better, then MMOs can get back on track as virtual worlds, not "Super Mario boss battle level 60".
Are you saying there are people that are NOT into naked women? I mean sure, there are blind people, but you mean besides that?
Id rather see naked men.
Sorceress of TaurGwaith
I am tired of seeing PvP and Raiding always enforced on me.
I never want anything more than grouping/soloing in PvE...and somehow, the game always force me with better rewards to do something I don't want to do. Which make me incredibly angry and leave any game I try and wish I never even bother with this lame design. Seriously, a monkey couldn't do any worser with 3 rocks and nothing else as far as game design is concerned.
Except for CoX, I see a desert in the MMO world since 1999...9 years in the desert...nothing in the past, nothing in the future...but endless and pointless deserts. PvP/RvR/Raiding...no thanks to each and every of these "gameplays". Simple guy just want simple grouping...nothing more. I don't mind if this is the case on some servers only, don't care about what happen on other servers...but on the server where I play, grouping in PvE = access to each and every reward. Just writing this, I am ANGRY...I don't understand why I have to explain such basics. It is obvious. I want to group in PvE, don't force me to raid/RvR/PvP. (*&%$/(
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
DnD online was pretty good. (If very short).
That's alot like COH, in that it's primarily instanced and the teaming up is really easy. I enjoyed that one. Not a raid in sight.
Lord of The Rings Online was pretty much PvE too I thought. Although frankly it's quite lacklustre if you've played WoW. Essentially it's a cut price version of the same gameplay.
I alsoe felt that WoW allowed me to keep up with the raiders gear while only running 5 and ten man dungeons.
Hmmmmm.........
I AGREE with the OP and I DISAGREE with the OP.
I loved raiding in WoW. I hated Preparing to raid in WoW. I hated farming for gold and mats which I had to have to raid..... It was like I had to work in order to play.... and I refuse to do that.
I like the PVE aspect of WoW... in terms of raiding, but I will not play any MMO ever again which requires me to do daily quests or run on a treadmill in order to raid.