Atleast I took the time to learn anything about Age of Conan which is not something I can say for the above two Age of Conan Advocates in relation to WAR.
Age of Conan is guild focused, in order to participate in sieges you have to rely on a guild actually wanting to hire outside forces. Aka Guild focus. High level crafting ... You must be in a High Level guild..again Guild Focus / Reliance. Want Raid? Well unless you know 24 random people you can trust...you have to ..omg be in a GUILD!!
You don't need to do anything of this to do any of the activites in WAR. Both games offer ways for communities to form trusts & alliances one focuses on Racial base and the other focus's on Guild / alliance base.
PvP & RvR. Age of Conan has a completely seperate PvP system while WAR's RvR system is the main focus of the game.
You can be doing PvE quests or battling it out in the Open RvR / Scenario areas it doesn't matter all the points you earn for your Race can be garnered from either activity. Which leads to taking over the Other side's city. The longer they've held their city, keeps, or outposts the more valuable those places become when you finally siege it & take it over.
Age of Conan & WAR both have rather exciting PvE systems. Infact claims that "i've not heard much about their PvE" means they've read little of the recient articles, read few of the transcripts from live chat sessions, or watched very few of the podcasts. PvE is a huge part of the game. Infact PvE & RvR work together for the same goal instead of the traditional split the world in half. For once there's a sense that the both PvP & PvE are important. Something Age of Conan does not do.
If your into PvE you get Raids woopie for Raid people ... if your into PvP you get Guild run events..another woopie for people who don't mind being forced to work for others. Frankly I like having the choice on whether or not I want to be a part of an internal game social network and considering how badly some turn out I'd rather not have to rely on them to enjoy the top Tier Aspect of the game. Thank you lord for Warhammer for that.
If you like Age of Conan fine but don't speculate & make claims on WAR without reading up first. Infact maybe you should go back and look at Age of Conan if you seem to misunderstand things about your own game.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
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Originally posted by elvenangel
If you like Age of Conan fine but don't speculate & make claims on WAR without reading up first. Infact maybe you should go back and look at Age of Conan if you seem to misunderstand things about your own game.
Just wanted to say that the PvP in Age of Conan in the Border Kingdoms where you build your PvP City is NOT instanced. (just in relation to your first post in the thread)
Cheers!
Apart from that OP enjoy both games for the fun that they will be!
Yea I wasn't particularly sure its why I tried to be careful how I used the wording for instanced with age of conan because they did say at one point that certain things would be instanced. Over all instanced or not Age of Conan's PvP system is supposed to be really great.
I'm just not into hardcore which Age of Conan seems to be which is great because I know so many hardcore PvPers players have been dying for something to cater to them.
I've got no hate for age of conan its just not my cup of tea. Ive never been one to where I like being under another player's reign aka uber guilds.
I do like casual clans where people are just guilded as friends to hang out but I don't want to have to depend on them in order to enjoy parts of the game. I've always considered forced guilding mechanics were kinda bogus. Guess I'm just independant that way. I like to help people and work with people but I don't want someone else dictating my time.
Seriously if Age of Conan and WAR both do well....it'll speak volumes to Game companies working on MMOs I hope. It'll show them direct clones don't work, ever.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
AOC is more difficult and more advanced and more 1 vs 1, and much raids? and warhammer you play only for RVR. so it depend's on how many people play warhammer... right?
I've no interest in AoC, I can't wait for WAR. The depth of RvR and PvE looks absolutely sick, tons of interesting classes, leveling and gear from PvP and PvE. Public quests sound awesome.
Not to mention 25 years of lore and a world that feels alive
Sorry for double posting...
DuraheLL, while it is true that Games Workshop has just made 25 years and so it means 25 years of Lore ! Congratulations to them !!! It also means a lot of my money was spent on it!
The lore of Conan is 75 years old - just google Robert E. Howard.
Cheers!
Somewhat pointless to compare the years of creation.
The Phoenix on the Sword was created 75 years ago and it was a story.
Games Workshop created Warhammer fantasy 25 years ago and it was a fantasy board game.
The age of the lore does not make an MMO superior to another. If so, I could claim that Dark Age of Camelot lore was created in the 6th century, therfore it's obviously a much richer experience than both.
I am a fan of gaming and appreciate the hard work and creativity that goes into making a game. I will probably check out both, even though I’m loving PotBS.
I don’t feel I have to obsess with one game all the time.
But as far as picking one goes, when it comes to RPGs I look for character building (most games could do a better job with this) and combat gameplay.
I also like a game with challenge, which most MMOs are getting soft on (PotBS is a refreshing exception).
So when comparing WAR with AoC I will be looking at, character building (more skill choices the better), combat gameplay, and challenge.
Uhm? AOC is more difficult and more advanced and more 1 vs 1, and much raids? and warhammer you play only for RVR. so it depend's on how many people play warhammer... right?
I wouldn't say more difficult...since no one really knows what the learning curve for either game is. It has a Tiered PvE raiding system. Then there's the borderlands which is pretty much anyone, their guild, or just by themselves can go and pretty much bloody beat each other to death. From what I surmise as in (my opinion here) the balancing is not Rock Paper Scissors, which is what WAR uses. WAR uses rock paper scissors so there is a need to work as a group in PvP since you'll have atleast 1 to 2 classes that can pretty much pwn you if your alone. AoC also has areas where guilds can build basically a home forthemselves & their mates. Basically I'd say AoC is a hybrid of a sandbox game, while WAR is more structured.
Personaly I like structured...I just dont have enough hours in the day to dedicate to a sandbox type of game and feel as if I'm accomplishing something.
AoC & WAR both have sieging...AoC has keeps & player controlled cities (i think its 3 cities so only the top 3 guilds can hold it then they decide when the area is open for Sieging and anyone and everyone can try to tear it down and take over). I can't remember if there's level requirements for the activities...I think some have level limits and some don't
WAR's sieging has keeps, strategic outposts, and capitol cities and you can pretty much do all of that right from the start.
RvR just means everyone from that race is working for the same goal....killing, pillaging, and destroying the opposing race. Like how the Orks hate stunties so even their capitol is built inside of an old Dwarf Capitol..it doesn't stop them though from constantly killing stunties to hopefully take over their new Capitol city (which your realm can do). And you can participate in the preperation for destroying the enemy through RvR or PvE.
Both games sucess relies on there being a healthy population. You can't Siege in AoC or WAR without a healthy population. I pretty much believe they're both going to have a healthy population if the Dev's don't fubar it. While some AoC & WAR players will play both there are some of us who only have eyes for one.
You really should just go to both websites and read the official information & watch te official podcasts. Asking us is going to get you alot of strange answers since some people interrept things differntly than others.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I've no interest in AoC, I can't wait for WAR. The depth of RvR and PvE looks absolutely sick, tons of interesting classes, leveling and gear from PvP and PvE. Public quests sound awesome.
Not to mention 25 years of lore and a world that feels alive
Sorry for double posting...
DuraheLL, while it is true that Games Workshop has just made 25 years and so it means 25 years of Lore ! Congratulations to them !!! It also means a lot of my money was spent on it!
The lore of Conan is 75 years old - just google Robert E. Howard.
Cheers!
Somewhat pointless to compare the years of creation.
The Phoenix on the Sword was created 75 years ago and it was a story.
Games Workshop created Warhammer fantasy 25 years ago and it was a fantasy board game.
The age of the lore does not make an MMO superior to another. If so, I could claim that Dark Age of Camelot lore was created in the 6th century, therfore it's obviously a much richer experience than both.
Hey guys take it easy... I don't know if you were refering to me, but man I wasn't comparing anything.
My point is actually this, what you said.
I thought someone like DuraheLL could have made a much better comment (as he usually does) than just saying "Not to mention 25 years of lore and a world that feels alive" (that kind of comment has been posted over and over again even if I share the same view) and then I just said that Robert E. Howard Lore, Conan, is pretty old as well. So why bother talking about ages... Both are diferent and there's better thing to say than this.
Anyway I also posted a reply to DuraheLL that I wasn't or didn't meant to compare anything... duh! (oops already said it, maybe I just have to repeat to make it clear, no? *sarcasm*).
And nobody said that this or that Lore was richer...
So basically what you've just said Shifty360, is what I meant to say but I understand I didn't made it clear.
This is all pretty much pointless, can we just leave it be?
Cheers!
PS: Humanity to soon make for themselves a pre-judgement over anything. While that shows inteligence and some experience in life, those same humans (meaning everyone on this planet including me) just sometimes forget how to just not read anymore between the lines, sometimes things are very simple and we just forget that.
I think you misunderstood me Gröm with what I said. I simply add to what newbinator said about what he liked about the game and I just added to his list that I think it's nice for the game's sake that they have 25 years of warhammer lore to work with to create a better atmosphere for the game. Nothing else.
But I agree with you again let's leave this entire discussion be for now
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In AOC you can build own cities and fight with it, and have sieges, and a nice combat style and bterret graphics? this is not in War? right?
Yes, in AOC you can build your own cities and fight in them. This will be both a plus (if you are the victor) and a minus (if you end up the loser). Both games will have sieges, combat style is a matter of preference, and till we play both games we won't really know which we like better. Better graphics? Maybe. Will you be able to actually run more than 20 fps when 50 people are on screen might be the more important question for both games.
I'll be trying them both when they get released so I'll be sure to let you know.
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I think you misunderstood me Gröm with what I said. I simply add to what newbinator said about what he liked about the game and I just added to his list that I think it's nice for the game's sake that they have 25 years of warhammer lore to work with to create a better atmosphere for the game. Nothing else. But I agree with you again let's leave this entire discussion be for now
Oh damn! So sorry then DuraheLL, really...
I'll pay you a drink next time?
Cheers!
PS: people probably think I'm a drunkyard babey by now with all this "cheers!" everytime I post - well they're probably right!
In AOC you can build own cities and fight with it, and have sieges, and a nice combat style and bterret graphics? this is not in War? right?
Build your own cities - AoC
Fight with your cities - WAR & AoC
Have sieges - WAR & AoC
Nice combat style - WAR & AoC
Better graphics - Personal Opinion, but remember that gameplay is more important than graphics. Unless of course all you are planning on doing when you play a game is traveling across the map to look at the various scenery and areas.
In AOC you can build own cities and fight with it, and have sieges, and a nice combat style and bterret graphics? this is not in War? right?
Build your own cities - AoC
Fight with your cities - WAR & AoC
Have sieges - WAR & AoC
Nice combat style - WAR & AoC
Better graphics - Personal Opinion, but remember that gameplay is more important than graphics. Unless of course all you are planning on doing when you play a game is traveling across the map to look at the various scenery and areas.
That should sum up everything that have been said so far.
I for one will purchase AoC as its game play seems allot smoother than WAR, however both games are nothing new so ill continue to wait until a true game development company is bold enough to make something new!
Max Level of both games? i think 50 for both Does both games have raids? Aoc does
Is the world engine like WoW or like GW (that you can only meet each other in towns)? bothl ike wow Which one has Better PVP? well... i would say war cuz its focused as a pvp game
Which one do you think that would be played the most? war, look at ur poll aswell... just the ip will make it more popular What would be the monthly costs of both games? 15$ a month
Which game does have a bigger map / world? not really known Which game have more armors, weapons, kind of tiers? WAR
Which game has more reality? AOC Which of this two games has the biggest cities? dunno
Does both games have sieges? like in Lineage II? WAR seems to be more focused on pvp if thats what u want What are the system requirements of the games? AoC has better graphics so its definately gonna have higher reqs
Are they both Directx10? i think so
And now i'm hoping on some answers? and votes! If i ned to know something else, i add it here. Greets,
Dennis
Im not a fanboi inclined at any game, I really like AoC but think the nudity etc will just attract nerds and is kind of stupid.
WAR seems to have a really nice PvP system, I LOVED DaOC's RvR.
In AOC you can build own cities and fight with it, and have sieges, and a nice combat style and bterret graphics? this is not in War? right?
Yes, in AOC you can build your own cities and fight in them. This will be both a plus (if you are the victor) and a minus (if you end up the loser). Both games will have sieges, combat style is a matter of preference, and till we play both games we won't really know which we like better. Better graphics? Maybe. Will you be able to actually run more than 20 fps when 50 people are on screen might be the more important question for both games.
I'll be trying them both when they get released so I'll be sure to let you know.
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Atleast I took the time to learn anything about Age of Conan which is not something I can say for the above two Age of Conan Advocates in relation to WAR.
Age of Conan is guild focused, in order to participate in sieges you have to rely on a guild actually wanting to hire outside forces. Aka Guild focus. High level crafting ... You must be in a High Level guild..again Guild Focus / Reliance. Want Raid? Well unless you know 24 random people you can trust...you have to ..omg be in a GUILD!!
You don't need to do anything of this to do any of the activites in WAR. Both games offer ways for communities to form trusts & alliances one focuses on Racial base and the other focus's on Guild / alliance base.
PvP & RvR. Age of Conan has a completely seperate PvP system while WAR's RvR system is the main focus of the game.
You can be doing PvE quests or battling it out in the Open RvR / Scenario areas it doesn't matter all the points you earn for your Race can be garnered from either activity. Which leads to taking over the Other side's city. The longer they've held their city, keeps, or outposts the more valuable those places become when you finally siege it & take it over.
Age of Conan & WAR both have rather exciting PvE systems. Infact claims that "i've not heard much about their PvE" means they've read little of the recient articles, read few of the transcripts from live chat sessions, or watched very few of the podcasts. PvE is a huge part of the game. Infact PvE & RvR work together for the same goal instead of the traditional split the world in half. For once there's a sense that the both PvP & PvE are important. Something Age of Conan does not do.
If your into PvE you get Raids woopie for Raid people ... if your into PvP you get Guild run events..another woopie for people who don't mind being forced to work for others. Frankly I like having the choice on whether or not I want to be a part of an internal game social network and considering how badly some turn out I'd rather not have to rely on them to enjoy the top Tier Aspect of the game. Thank you lord for Warhammer for that.
If you like Age of Conan fine but don't speculate & make claims on WAR without reading up first. Infact maybe you should go back and look at Age of Conan if you seem to misunderstand things about your own game.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Cheers!
Apart from that OP enjoy both games for the fun that they will be!
Yea I wasn't particularly sure its why I tried to be careful how I used the wording for instanced with age of conan because they did say at one point that certain things would be instanced. Over all instanced or not Age of Conan's PvP system is supposed to be really great.
I'm just not into hardcore which Age of Conan seems to be which is great because I know so many hardcore PvPers players have been dying for something to cater to them.
I've got no hate for age of conan its just not my cup of tea. Ive never been one to where I like being under another player's reign aka uber guilds.
I do like casual clans where people are just guilded as friends to hang out but I don't want to have to depend on them in order to enjoy parts of the game. I've always considered forced guilding mechanics were kinda bogus. Guess I'm just independant that way. I like to help people and work with people but I don't want someone else dictating my time.
Seriously if Age of Conan and WAR both do well....it'll speak volumes to Game companies working on MMOs I hope. It'll show them direct clones don't work, ever.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Uhm?
AOC is more difficult and more advanced and more 1 vs 1, and much raids? and warhammer you play only for RVR. so it depend's on how many people play warhammer... right?
Does AOC has Sieges? and are they the same as in Lineage II.
Does there comes updates for AOC? like wow or like GW?
Does there comes updates for WAR? like wow or like GW?
Or nobody ahve a idea about this.
As for now we don't know this yet.
Still too soon to ask this imho...
You usually don't need to worry about expansions when a game is in beta.
WoW has normal updates and expansions
So what do you mean exactly?
Not to mention 25 years of lore and a world that feels alive
Sorry for double posting...
DuraheLL, while it is true that Games Workshop has just made 25 years and so it means 25 years of Lore ! Congratulations to them !!! It also means a lot of my money was spent on it!
The lore of Conan is 75 years old - just google Robert E. Howard.
Cheers!
Somewhat pointless to compare the years of creation.
The Phoenix on the Sword was created 75 years ago and it was a story.
Games Workshop created Warhammer fantasy 25 years ago and it was a fantasy board game.
The age of the lore does not make an MMO superior to another. If so, I could claim that Dark Age of Camelot lore was created in the 6th century, therfore it's obviously a much richer experience than both.
I am a fan of gaming and appreciate the hard work and creativity that goes into making a game. I will probably check out both, even though I’m loving PotBS.
I don’t feel I have to obsess with one game all the time.
But as far as picking one goes, when it comes to RPGs I look for character building (most games could do a better job with this) and combat gameplay.
I also like a game with challenge, which most MMOs are getting soft on (PotBS is a refreshing exception).
So when comparing WAR with AoC I will be looking at, character building (more skill choices the better), combat gameplay, and challenge.
I wouldn't say more difficult...since no one really knows what the learning curve for either game is. It has a Tiered PvE raiding system. Then there's the borderlands which is pretty much anyone, their guild, or just by themselves can go and pretty much bloody beat each other to death. From what I surmise as in (my opinion here) the balancing is not Rock Paper Scissors, which is what WAR uses. WAR uses rock paper scissors so there is a need to work as a group in PvP since you'll have atleast 1 to 2 classes that can pretty much pwn you if your alone. AoC also has areas where guilds can build basically a home forthemselves & their mates. Basically I'd say AoC is a hybrid of a sandbox game, while WAR is more structured.
Personaly I like structured...I just dont have enough hours in the day to dedicate to a sandbox type of game and feel as if I'm accomplishing something.
AoC & WAR both have sieging...AoC has keeps & player controlled cities (i think its 3 cities so only the top 3 guilds can hold it then they decide when the area is open for Sieging and anyone and everyone can try to tear it down and take over). I can't remember if there's level requirements for the activities...I think some have level limits and some don't
WAR's sieging has keeps, strategic outposts, and capitol cities and you can pretty much do all of that right from the start.
RvR just means everyone from that race is working for the same goal....killing, pillaging, and destroying the opposing race. Like how the Orks hate stunties so even their capitol is built inside of an old Dwarf Capitol..it doesn't stop them though from constantly killing stunties to hopefully take over their new Capitol city (which your realm can do). And you can participate in the preperation for destroying the enemy through RvR or PvE.
Both games sucess relies on there being a healthy population. You can't Siege in AoC or WAR without a healthy population. I pretty much believe they're both going to have a healthy population if the Dev's don't fubar it. While some AoC & WAR players will play both there are some of us who only have eyes for one.
You really should just go to both websites and read the official information & watch te official podcasts. Asking us is going to get you alot of strange answers since some people interrept things differntly than others.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Not to mention 25 years of lore and a world that feels alive
Sorry for double posting...
DuraheLL, while it is true that Games Workshop has just made 25 years and so it means 25 years of Lore ! Congratulations to them !!! It also means a lot of my money was spent on it!
The lore of Conan is 75 years old - just google Robert E. Howard.
Cheers!
Somewhat pointless to compare the years of creation.
The Phoenix on the Sword was created 75 years ago and it was a story.
Games Workshop created Warhammer fantasy 25 years ago and it was a fantasy board game.
The age of the lore does not make an MMO superior to another. If so, I could claim that Dark Age of Camelot lore was created in the 6th century, therfore it's obviously a much richer experience than both.
Hey guys take it easy... I don't know if you were refering to me, but man I wasn't comparing anything.My point is actually this, what you said.
I thought someone like DuraheLL could have made a much better comment (as he usually does) than just saying "Not to mention 25 years of lore and a world that feels alive" (that kind of comment has been posted over and over again even if I share the same view) and then I just said that Robert E. Howard Lore, Conan, is pretty old as well. So why bother talking about ages... Both are diferent and there's better thing to say than this.
Anyway I also posted a reply to DuraheLL that I wasn't or didn't meant to compare anything... duh! (oops already said it, maybe I just have to repeat to make it clear, no? *sarcasm*).
And nobody said that this or that Lore was richer...
So basically what you've just said Shifty360, is what I meant to say but I understand I didn't made it clear.
This is all pretty much pointless, can we just leave it be?
Cheers!
PS: Humanity to soon make for themselves a pre-judgement over anything. While that shows inteligence and some experience in life, those same humans (meaning everyone on this planet including me) just sometimes forget how to just not read anymore between the lines, sometimes things are very simple and we just forget that.
I think you misunderstood me Gröm with what I said. I simply add to what newbinator said about what he liked about the game and I just added to his list that I think it's nice for the game's sake that they have 25 years of warhammer lore to work with to create a better atmosphere for the game. Nothing else.
But I agree with you again let's leave this entire discussion be for now
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http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
In AOC you can build own cities and fight with it, and have sieges, and a nice combat style and bterret graphics? this is not in War? right?
Yes, in AOC you can build your own cities and fight in them. This will be both a plus (if you are the victor) and a minus (if you end up the loser). Both games will have sieges, combat style is a matter of preference, and till we play both games we won't really know which we like better. Better graphics? Maybe. Will you be able to actually run more than 20 fps when 50 people are on screen might be the more important question for both games.
I'll be trying them both when they get released so I'll be sure to let you know.
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Oh damn! So sorry then DuraheLL, really...
I'll pay you a drink next time?
Cheers!
PS: people probably think I'm a drunkyard babey by now with all this "cheers!" everytime I post - well they're probably right!
Build your own cities - AoC
Fight with your cities - WAR & AoC
Have sieges - WAR & AoC
Nice combat style - WAR & AoC
Better graphics - Personal Opinion, but remember that gameplay is more important than graphics. Unless of course all you are planning on doing when you play a game is traveling across the map to look at the various scenery and areas.
Build your own cities - AoC
Fight with your cities - WAR & AoC
Have sieges - WAR & AoC
Nice combat style - WAR & AoC
Better graphics - Personal Opinion, but remember that gameplay is more important than graphics. Unless of course all you are planning on doing when you play a game is traveling across the map to look at the various scenery and areas.
That should sum up everything that have been said so far.
Thanks Shifty!
I for one will purchase AoC as its game play seems allot smoother than WAR, however both games are nothing new so ill continue to wait until a true game development company is bold enough to make something new!
Warhammer online, most definitely. Mythic appears to be trying to create what we all thought WoW was going to be.
That tiered raiding system of AoC just makes me tear up and cry.....
BTW here is something new: http://www.spore.com/about.php
It comes out in September. Maybe you should stay away from the MMO business model, change takes an eternity in business especially a profitable one.
OH GOD NO NOT THIS AGAIN FULL STOP
Im not a fanboi inclined at any game, I really like AoC but think the nudity etc will just attract nerds and is kind of stupid.
WAR seems to have a really nice PvP system, I LOVED DaOC's RvR.
Oh fun, he remade his post.
Here is the KEY for you.
Blue - Applies to WAR
Red - Applies to AoC
Pink - Applies to both
Yes, in AOC you can build your own cities and fight in them. This will be both a plus (if you are the victor) and a minus (if you end up the loser). Both games will have sieges, combat style is a matter of preference, and till we play both games we won't really know which we like better. Better graphics? Maybe. Will you be able to actually run more than 20 fps when 50 people are on screen might be the more important question for both games.
I'll be trying them both when they get released so I'll be sure to let you know.
Thanks mate,